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Its also ok if the people of the State of Idaho wants to pay for BSU football!
Hmmm, lost that site link!

Anyway it commented on the fact that Idaho residents would scream holy terror if they knew how much of their tax money went to supporting just BSU football, and how little goes to the other state universities.

Oh well, se la vie!

Bob

No, I'm actually okay with the amount going to BSU football over other Idaho universities. Why would I want any more money to go to the UofI? lol They play football in a barn, just as they should.

Football is pointless.

So, who is going to win, Texas or BYU, on Sept 6th?

Utah gets a nice 30 million each year for being in the PAC 12. Time for BYU to pack it up.

@Lizzy60 - I thanked, then realized you're wrong. football is not pointless. it is a wonderful tool for distracting, diminishing and dividing people. it is quite effective for wasting time and resources. it's awesome at giving nothing of value in return for your investment in time, money and loyalty. it's a modern day idol - I hate that is NOT pointless.

edit - that would be college and pro. oh, and to be fair probably ought to add baseball, basketball, soccer, hockey, nascar, Indy racing, the Olympics etc. etc. etc.

I'm all for kids playing sports and learning life lessons and working hard and all that BS, but it needs to end approximately when you can drive a car. and yes, I am fairly athletic ( not a bitter couch potato).

Obrien wrote:@Lizzy60 - I thanked, then realized you're wrong. football is not pointless. it is a wonderful tool for distracting, diminishing and dividing people. it is quite effective for wasting time and resources. it's awesome at giving nothing of value in return for your investment in time, money and loyalty. it's a modern day idol - I hate that is NOT pointless.

edit - that would be college and pro. oh, and to be fair probably ought to add baseball, basketball, soccer, hockey, nascar, Indy racing, the Olympics etc. etc. etc.

I'm all for kids playing sports and learning life lessons and working hard and all that BS, but it needs to end approximately when you can drive a car. and yes, I am fairly athletic ( not a bitter couch potato).

Exactly right! Modern day bread and circuses imho. The sheeple are so consumed with fantasy sports, real sports, and Hollywood they don't have time for things of importance. And this is from someone that spent their whole childhood and high school years playing 3 different sports. I rarely play or watch any of it anymore. Total waste of time.

And to address the other topic being discussed about tax dollars be used for sports. Being a BSU grad, I can honestly say I had a problem seeing my tuition costs go up every year to support the football program. I don't think tuition, taxes, or tithing should be used to fund sports programs. The sport (whatever sport that is) needs to support itself or go away. If the market decides there's a demand for it then it will have the money needed. If not, it will disappear. Pretty simple.

BYU football is a missionary tool. Puke football gets $30 million, BYU gets $50 million plus world wide exposure 120 nations! Pony football is seen in Boise, Puke football (if lucky) can be seen in parts of the Western US. And still BYU sports serves as a world wide missionary tool. You see, BYU can sell advertising outside the USA, and shares it's income with no one! Pukes are the dreggs of the pac 12, bottom feeders! And the ponies simply took from BYU the leading position of the mwc! Shucky darn, looked at what we missed :)) :)) :)) =))

bobhenstra wrote:BYU football is a missionary tool. Puke football gets $30 million, BYU gets $50 million plus world wide exposure 9120 nations! Pony football is seen in Boise, Puke football (if lucky) can be seen in parts of the Western US. And still BYU sports serves as a world wide missionary tool. You see, BYU can sell advertising outside the USA, and shares it's income with no one! Pukes are the dreggs of the pac 12, bottom feeders! And the ponies simply took from BYU the leading position of the mwc! Shucky darn, looked at what we missed

Oh Bob. Utah is in the PAC 12, plays quality teams during the season. Beat BYU all times since being in PAC 12.

Did I say Utah was in the PAC 12!!! You really need to evaluate how much missionary work actually comes from BYU sports.

byu athletics is an embarrassment, and the opposite of a missionary tool.

bobhenstra wrote:BYU football is a missionary tool. Puke football gets $30 million, BYU gets $50 million plus world wide exposure 9120 nations! Pony football is seen in Boise, Puke football (if lucky) can be seen in parts of the Western US. And still BYU sports serves as a world wide missionary tool. You see, BYU can sell advertising outside the USA, and shares it's income with no one! Pukes are the dreggs of the pac 12, bottom feeders! And the ponies simply took from BYU the leading position of the mwc! Shucky darn, looked at what we missed :)) :)) :)) =))

When you can provide baptism numbers that directly correlate to BYU athletics, and football in particular, I might agree with you.

And "Pony" football is seen all over the country. You can buy BSU merchandise clear in New York. Boise has had national interest since the Fiesta Bowl. We're certainly not Alabama, Ohio State, or USC, but people like watching.

And nobody watches BYU football outside of the United States...because nobody cares about football outside of the United States.

And as soon as BYU has a winning record against us you can start talking smack. You've got a chance to tie it up this year. Good luck.

It's the exposure that counts, Baptisms will come later. Football counts on the North American Continent and parts of Europe, but basketball is watched everywhere. Cougars will sup on the ponies, Albertson stadium will be empty by halftime. We'll slap the Shaggies silly and the pukes are afraid to play us.

bobhenstra wrote:It's the exposure that counts, Baptisms will come later. Football counts on the North American Continent and parts of Europe, but basketball is watched everywhere. Cougars will sup on the ponies, Albertson stadium will be empty by halftime. We'll slap the Shaggies silly and the pukes are afraid to play us.

lol

Lizzy60 wrote:Football is pointless.

So, tell me, how much of our modern life isn't pointless? Do we really need all our stuff, and our big houses, and cars, and cell phones, and computers? Speaking of pointless, how about doing fake pioneer treks. Can you imagine what the real pioneers would think of us out faking it? We don't have anything better to do?

As for football, the problem is that young men are cursed with testosterone, which means they are going to want to fight and compete. I would rather they do it in a controlled, fake game, than on the streets or in a real war.

If you want to talk pointless, think of Iraq, with trillions of dollars wasted, thousands dead, and many more thousands with debilitating injuries and mental illness, leading to broken homes, misery and suicide.

Too bad we didn't just play a football game against Iraq.

I see the rednecks of Mississippi beat up the ponies of BSU! Must have been the altitude----

Just a reminder in case you missed the first one! :ymhug:

The BCS is a secret combination. It was a sad day when Utah got swallowed up by the football gadiantons, just when they were about to win.

I watched BYU dominate Texas... Cant wait till the Beat the Puke out of them rednecks in Boise!

Hey, wait! The season goes by fast enough as it is---- The ponies will get their turn! Hmmm, puke?? Wompus,do I know you??

pjbrownie wrote:The BCS is a secret combination. It was a sad day when Utah got swallowed up by the football gadiantons, just when they were about to win.

Like it or not PJ, we're just going to have to learn to live with the gads around until our Lord says different! There's a good chance BYU will be invited to join the Big 12 after this season!

As a UTE fan, after hearing about BYU's demolition of Texas, the Big 12 would be fools NOT to include BYU next year.

Even so, Utah absolutely pasted Fresno State. The Michigan game is going to be interesting to say the least. If we can win that, I can see Utah getting 7 or 8 wins this year.

samizdat wrote:As a UTE fan, after hearing about BYU's demolition of Texas, the Big 12 would be fools NOT to include BYU next year.

Even so, Utah absolutely pasted Fresno State. The Michigan game is going to be interesting to say the least. If we can win that, I can see Utah getting 7 or 8 wins this year.

which would be a great year for the Utes.... but I don't see why the Big 12 would let BYU in... just more competition for them that they don't need!

wompus wrote:I watched BYU dominate Texas... Cant wait till the Beat the Puke out of them rednecks in Boise!

We in Boise are looking forward to you sophisticated people showing us how to play football. Seeing how us "rednecks" have a winning record against you you just might have a shot this year. Good luck.

Maybe after the game we could get together and talk about the best place to get a boob job in Utah county, or the best place to shop (City Creek I'm guessing), or who has the fanciest, most expensive car, or who has the biggest house or who makes the most money. You know...that sounds even more fun than the game itself. Then again that's all part of the game for you sophisticated folks. Let's plan it!!! Maybe you can buy us dinner on your nearly maxed out credit cards. :ymdevil:

Signed,

an unsophisticated, semi-football fan....oh and obviously I left out redneck.

caddis wrote:

wompus wrote:I watched BYU dominate Texas... Cant wait till the Beat the Puke out of them rednecks in Boise!

We in Boise are looking forward to you sophisticated people showing us how to play football. Seeing how us "rednecks" have a winning record against you you just might have a shot this year. Good luck.

Maybe after the game we could get together and talk about the best place to get a boob job in Utah county, or the best place to shop (City Creek I'm guessing), or who has the fanciest, most expensive car, or who has the biggest house or who makes the most money. You know...that sounds even more fun than the game itself. Then again that's all part of the game for you sophisticated folks. Let's plan it!!! Maybe you can buy us dinner on your nearly maxed out credit cards. :ymdevil:

Signed,

an unsophisticated, semi-football fan....oh and obviously I left out redneck.

Wow, someone is angry... sounds like a personal problem to me!

Wow, someone is arrogant... sounds like a personal problem to me!