President Hinckley spoke of a secret combination in 1999

[Chip]

Back in the April or October 1999 General Conference priesthood session, President Hinckley spoke candidly about a very powerful secret combination that was gaining control over the USA. I witnessed this at our local chapel, sitting among the men of our stake, with the session being projected live onto a screen at the front of the chapel. These statements came before his actual talk, and in trying to find them later, I could not locate them in the text or video records of the priesthood sessions.

At that time, I was new to the church and I didn't have any particular appreciation of the Constitution or the Book of Mormon's warnings in Ether 8, but I remember, very distinctly, President Hinckley's tone, what he said, and the collective sigh around me from all the other men. President Hinckley seemed acutely concerned as he explained that there was a secret combination at work within the government that was very powerful and it was gaining control over the country. Every man around me heard the same thing and they all registered it.

Today, I can't find anyone that remembers President Hinckley saying these things. Do any of you have any recollection of this from ~15 years ago? I remember this as clear as day, but I think others, like Lundbaek and Dr. Jones, who would be interested to cite the prophet's words, don't know about this. It is, perhaps, the last definitive statement on Latter Day Gadiantons that has come from the First Presidency (or Quorum Of The Twelve).

[davedan]

"As bearers of the priesthood, we have been placed on earth in troubled times. We live in a complex world with currents of conflict everywhere to be found. Political machinations ruin the stability of nations, despots grasp for power, and segments of society seem forever downtrodden, deprived of opportunity, and left with a feeling of failure." - Pres. Monson

“It is the terrorist organizations that must be ferreted out and brought down. We of this Church know something of such groups. The Book of Mormon speaks of the Gadianton robbers, a vicious, oath-bound, and secret organization bent on evil and destruction. In their day they did all in their power, by whatever means available, to bring down the Church, to woo the people with sophistry, and to take control of the society. We see the same thing in the present situation.” (Gordon B. Hinckley, General Conference, October, 2001)

“The Book of Mormon narrative is a chronicle of nations long since gone. But in its descriptions of the problems of today’s society, it is as current as the morning newspaper and much more definitive, inspired, and inspiring concerning the solutions of those problems. I know of no other writing which sets forth with such clarity the tragic consequences to societies that follow courses contrary to the commandments of God. Its pages trace the stories of two distinct civilizations that flourished on the Western Hemisphere. Each began as a small nation, its people walking in the fear of the Lord. But with prosperity came growing evils. The people succumbed to the wiles of ambitious and scheming leaders who oppressed them with burdensome taxes, who lulled them with hollow promises, who countenanced and even encouraged loose and lascivious living. These evil schemers led the people into terrible wars that resulted in the death of millions and the final and total extinction of two great civilizations in two different eras.” (Gordon B. Hinckley, First Presidency Message, Ensign, August 2005)

[Chip]

As I recall, his words went something like this:

"There is a very powerful secret combination right now that is gaining control of our government."

He was being very direct and seemed somewhat pained talk about it. Everybody felt his concern in our chapel. It was obvious that these statements were not part of the planned program, but he felt compelled to make them. He was talking about something going on right then that had immediate import to our country. The context was 'right here in the USA, right now'. The response across the room was a deep sigh, as if we had all just heard an announcement that someone had died. It stands out in my memory very clearly.

[DPeterson]

My aunt mentioned to me a talk he did that year or around that year I think, where he talks about like a 7 year period. Is that the same one?

Sort of. He specifically said he wasn't prophesying, but mentions the dream of Pharaoh that Joseph interpreted about the seven years of plenty and the seven years of famine. He said we would be wise to get our houses in order, to get out of debt and put a little something to the side for a time of need. Good counsel for sure.

[Rapunzel]

There was a discussion on here a couple of years ago about secret combinations. viewtopic.php?f=5&p=289012" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I recall President Hinckley's talk about secret combinations and remember vividly as if he just spoke of it today of how concerned (and moved) he was. Here is his talk from Gen. Conference Oct. 1998 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNX5klOT1p0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[OneEternalRound]

I remember his talk...

"I was there Gandalf...the day the strength of men failed" Elrond

Do you think the Patriot Act just came about as a result of 9/11? I seriously doubt it...

[worthit]

He also said "Turn off that inane tv." October conference address 2006 Sunday morning address, beginning of the session, less than 5 minutes into his time on the mic. Oh boy, am I going to be quoting this! says I, (very pharisee-like, since we didn't watch tv.) Got the Ensign. Edited out. Ordered the cds. Check cleared, never received. Checked years later as librarian. Edited out.

Same with a quote from Neal A. Maxwell (April 1994 ?), "Parents are responsible for the teachings their children receive, whether they are present or not." (Again very pharisee-like, because we home taught our children--boy was I a hyper mom!) Maxwell was urging us to find a way to spend more time with our family, especially the children. "Is there something, even one thing, that you could give up to spend more time with your family?" The entire part is missing. Anyone remember that?

Take notes in conference. They may be the only record available later.

[markedwardhenry]

I remember President Hinkley saying that. I couldn't find it either as I wanted to cite his quote in my talk. That was my first clue that the president of the church does not have the final word of what he can publish, since that quote was edited out.

[creator]

I remember President Hinkley saying that. I couldn't find it either as I wanted to cite his quote in my talk. That was my first clue that the president of the church does not have the final word of what he can publish, since that quote was edited out.

I've found that sometimes when they remove something from the published text they don't always remove it from the video (the video is likely on the Church website if it was a Conference talk). If you decide to check the video let us know, and give us a timestamp.

[tribrac]

His talk in October 2001 announcing war was starting in Afghanistan. Go listen to it.

Maybe it was a talk in support of the PTB and the popular movement to put a boot in someone's a$$ (it's the American way) or maybe it was full of subtly and nuance of a wise old man trying to warn his people, but not able to speak freely.

[Chris]

Back in the April or October 1999 General Conference priesthood session, President Hinckley spoke candidly about a very powerful secret combination that was gaining control over the USA. I witnessed this at our local chapel, sitting among the men of our stake, with the session being projected live onto a screen at the front of the chapel. These statements came before his actual talk, and in trying to find them later, I could not locate them in the text or video records of the priesthood sessions.

At that time, I was new to the church and I didn't have any particular appreciation of the Constitution or the Book of Mormon's warnings in Ether 8, but I remember, very distinctly, President Hinckley's tone, what he said, and the collective sigh around me from all the other men. President Hinckley seemed acutely concerned as he explained that there was a secret combination at work within the government that was very powerful and it was gaining control over the country. Every man around me heard the same thing and they all registered it.

Today, I can't find anyone that remembers President Hinckley saying these things. Do any of you have any recollection of this from ~15 years ago? I remember this as clear as day, but I think others, like Lundbaek and Dr. Jones, who would be interested to cite the prophet's words, don't know about this. It is, perhaps, the last definitive statement on Latter Day Gadiantons that has come from the First Presidency (or Quorum Of The Twelve).

I remember it too, It may have also been during the Palmyra Temple dedication 4/6/2000. I remember him clearly stating and being floored that day marked the opening of the 7th seal. After the half hour of slience John talked about ( 21 years time ) our time. Things are not very quiet anymore and things are about to get crazy.

But i think some of it was addressed in the temple and then there is also the talk referenced about Pharo/Joseph and getting our houses in order.

[Chris]

There is always this little gem too

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[Chris]

This is also a very interesting prophecy from a great man, there is a lot more than this. He is formally on record raising atleast 3 people from the dead, including his own daughter. This account was actually shared by Elder Oaks during conference. He is amazing. One of his prophecies listed below actually just happened to the letter with the Tongan Tsunami.

The Vision of Patriarch Iohani Wolfgramm (1980)
The great Tongan Patriarch, Iohani Wolfgramm was a humble man who was beloved by the people of Tonga. He served 8 full time missions to Tonga and once stated that he had visited the huts or doors of every person in Tonga, even the King and Queen. Tonga is now predominately Mormon and some of that success is due the the efforts of the Lord working through Iohani.

There are documented incidences where Iohani even raised two people from the dead; one of these being his daughter. The miracle of her healing is referenced by Elder Dallin Oakes, in the June 2001 Ensign.

Someone who was a close friend of Brother Wolfgramm's recounted an experience that she had had around 1989, with Brother Wolfgramm. It was a dream of the cleansing of America.

”A few years ago, I met an elderly lady. She had come to hear me speak and to see if I had the right spirit about me. After she felt that she could trust me, she invited me to her house to show me a few interesting things. Her late husband had worked for the church and had been the head of a unique historical church documents that were not available to the public. After his death, his wife was asked to help finish some of his work. She was assigned one of the apostles to help her. She had the same access to those same documents and allowed me to read through them. I visited her multiple times to read and discuss the documents. On one of those visits, she told me an interesting story about Patriarch Wolfgramm. She was acquainted with the patriarch, and during a serious illness somewhere around the year 1989, she asked him to give her a blessing. In the blessing, he told her that she would recover and yet have a great work to do. He foretold other things as well, which prompted some questions in her mind about the future. So, after the blessing, she began asking him to clarify some of the things he said in the blessing.

He said in the last year of the second term of President Bush, the U.S. economy would collapse, which in turn would cause a series of events, including the invasion of foreign troops on U.S. soil.”

This lady then commented to the patriarch that it must mean that President Bush would be re-elected. Patriarch Wolfgramm then replied that it wasn't that Pres. Bush, but that it was the son of Pres. Bush who would become president that he was referring to.

Here are a few salient points that he mentioned:

a. The big economic collapse which leads to chaos will occur in the last year of the 2nd term of the son of George Bush who will become president.

b. There will be a great drought at about this same time all over the country.

c. Many in the Church will become unrighteous and apostatize.

d. There will be a nuclear bomb or bombs go off in Northern Utah that will have an effect as far south as the Salt Lake Valley.

e. Hundreds of millions of foreign troops will invade America.

f. The main foreign force in the Utah area will be Chinese or Chinese-looking troops mixed with Latin American troops.

g. Great upheavals will occur all over. In the Wasatch front area, a tremendous earthquake will occur. The mountains and valleys will be rearranged.

h. The righteous will be spared while the unrighteous will be cleansed from the land by earthquake, flood and plague.

i. The rocky mountain area will then become a sacred, fruitful place where the righteous will gather.



Iohani's Tape from the Mission field
From Iohani Wolfgramm: Man of Faith and Vision, pp. 113-121
Compiled by: Tisina Wolfgramm Gerber

December 1980

This is Iohani speaking on the tape. First I would like to express my love to my heavenly father for all my many blessings. We are in good health and want to send you all our love. Thank you for the letters, tapes, money, etc. that you share with us.
It worries me to hear from your letters and tapes of the problems that some of you are going through right now. The family has missed us, but we want to let you know that everything is fine and we are doing great and from your letters it sounds like everyone is worrying about me for I have been sick lately. The Lord has blessed me according to my faith and many prayers. And through those prayers and faith the Lord has given me good health, especially the fasting that some of you have done for me and the Lord was very pleased that you have given your time to pray and fast in my behalf.
Salote and I received a missionary call from the prophet Spencer W. Kimball in June 1980 to go on a mission to Old Mexico City. We went to our stake president for an interview and he had lined up someone who could help us learn the Spanish language. The first thing he asked us was, "Can you say Ola?" and we said "Ola" fast. The next word we could not pronounce. Then the telephone rang.
President White of the Wilford Stake, answered the phone and it was President Kimball. He asked if the Wolfgramm's were there to let them know that their mission had been changed and they were to serve in the Tongan mission. They were so excited and thanked the president, were set apart, and then came home. The next morning Salote had a beautiful crocheted bed cover she had made and wanted to give it to the prophet. So they contacted Rose Calder, a sister of Sister Camilla Kimball, to know how to reach the prophet to deliver the gift. She made arrangements for us to go to the prophet's home. They called security and we got cleared to go in. As we came closer to his home it was a big surprise to find the Prophet outside with his arms open to welcome us. He had tears in his eyes and gave me a big hug and told me how he loved me, and then Salote, then Tisina and Leilani who accompanied us. And again he told us, do you know how much we love you? We went inside and met his wife. He said he really loved the Polynesian people. You know our Father in Heaven loves you too and saying to his wife, "I want you to meet my good friends from Tonga."
Pres. Kimball went on to say that I should take with me my genealogy to Tonga and teach even the Royal family, and bring the Scale of Time to show them how short the time is for them to go to the temple and redeem their dead. Before we left the prophet told us that two days after arriving in Tonga I would be visited by Christ and he would let me know of my mission to the Tongan people.
We went to Provo for missionary training and eventually arrived in Tonga. In the training center we were very popular and every time there was a break missionaries came into our room and wanted to hear more and more of what I had to say.
But today I want to let all my family know what happened to me. From here I will explain to you why I was sick, but in reality I was not sick. Rather it was the vision that I saw with my eyes that caused me to feel like that. It was during the night that I saw the vision before I retired to bed.
There were two personages that stood inside our living room. Their feet did touch the ground and I didn't know where they came from. They said to me, "Stand up, we have come to take you with us and would like you to see the dwelling place of the Lord." I took a deep breath and we were on our way. We went on a very speedy trip. I was frightened and thought they were going to destroy my life. As we traveled we passed many planets and other celestial bodies. I asked them where they were taking me, and they told me to where the Lord resides.
I was taken to a place unknown to me. I didn't understand where we were. In a short time I heard the thunder and saw lightning and rain. It looked like we were facing the west as the sun went down-then it was all dark. At that time it seemed to me like 8:00 p.m. but it was after midnight when I was getting ready to retire. We saw the light, though it was raining and saw the lightening hit and then saw another lightening hit, and one of the men said, "See, in a few moments you will see a vision from the heavens and the appearance of Christ in his glory." Everything was so light and beautiful and shining. While I was standing there I felt the rain, the lightening hit me and the darkness disappeared and everything was light. That light never disappeared. Then I saw the rainbow and the rainbow encircled the light and there was no end of the brightness-brighter than noonday sun.
Then the voice spoke to me and asked if I understood about the rainbow. I said, "Yes, that was the covenant that was made between Noah and Father in Heaven that he would never again destroy the earth by water."
Then the voice said, "Iohani, have you repented enough?" Then the voice spoke of this world, "Have all mankind repented enough? Indeed it is true, I will not destroy this earth again by water, but I will destroy it with fire if they will not come unto me." Then I saw the light circle around the rainbow. He told me to look and see what was written. What I saw was:

THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

written in gold. Again the voice spoke to me, "See." The writing was full of lights and very brillirant. I heard a voice speaking from that light saying, "Iohani, go and call repentance unto your people. Call them to repent and to repent and to repent. Go and call everyone that lives on these islands to repent and repent and repent. The time is so short that they must repent and repent and repent. Let the people that you will meet in this life know that the time is so short that they must repent and come unto Christ. You must go and call repentant unto your people in Tonga, including the royal house of Taufa'ahau Tupou IV, Mata'aho and the Crown Prince Tupou To'a. The Lord told me that a few months after Salote and I touch the American soil, a destruction will come to Tonga-not to destroy them completely, but as a warning to let them know that he, Jesus Christ, rules on earth and in the heavens. I was sent to Tonga by God so I could be an instrument or a mouthpiece for him so I could cry repentance unto my people and if they hardened their hearts to the words of God, and repented not of their iniquities, a tidal wave would come to their beaches and it would cause damage to their crops and plantations. Some of their homes, power lines, and trees, would be uprooted. Floods would come to some places. Rocks and coral would be tossed like feathers in the air. But this problem will only come if they fail to hearken to voice of his servants and repent not. I was filled with the Spirit of the Lord and I started my mission where Christ told me to begin at Ha'atafu in the western district, then all the way up to Niutoua in the eastern district. "In my anger I will send destruction to them because they have not listened to my servants nor repented of their iniquities. Because they will not listen to my voice, they will destroyed and no one will be left." In his loud voice Christ spoke and said to me that I must go and teach them, to speak to them with kindness but not hurt them and for them to repent.. No one will live when I send my destruction upon the islands of the sea, even those who are not members of the Church that have not listened to my servants will be destroyed. Christ spoke to me and used the word repentance 16 times.
This was shown to me at the very first part of our mission. After He spoke to me the light disappeared, and I stood there alone. I was confused, not knowing what was going on, and again wondering where this light came from. From where He was speaking to me it was about 30 or 40 feet away. Again the light came back only about 2 minutes after it disappeared, and again I heard the voice speaking to me. This second time it was louder. Christ stood behind me cupping my ear and spoke to me, "Go and speak to the people and tell them I am Jesus Christ-and have sent you to those who live on this island and those you meet in your daily work. Call them quickly to repent because I am coming soon to destroy this world and no one will be left behind-they will all be destroyed." Also, for the third time he again spoke the same thing to me. "Go to them and call them to repentance. I am coming to this world to destroy it if they do not repent and repent and repent and wait no more, for I will come to punish them-those that will not keep my word nor abide by the scriptures."
"You must speak even to those missionaries you are serving with-that are working daily with you-call them to repentance also. I am Jesus Christ, who called for you to call them to repentance. Command the missionaries not to be ashamed or fear but to preach repentance also. Most of them will hate you and won't believe what you say to them, but you must let them know that they must repent or they will be destroyed."
He urged me to go and speak to the missionaries, not tomorrow, but right now." Then the light disappeared again. At that moment I still stood there. Then the lightening came again and hit me right under my feet and started to work its way up through all my body like a ball of fire starting from my feet. I could see myself standing and the power that came from that light was like an electric shock. It first affected my flesh and entered my bones. I immediately felt the pain in my whole body with that power inside. I looked at my hands and my whole body was illuminated. I felt that I was going to faint-with the heat and the strong power. Even my eyes. I was like the sun standing there. My body was changed.
I almost fell to the ground, but the angels held me up and said, "Iohani, you have the same power with which the Lord created the whole earth with and same power will stand firm for you when you meet the Savior. The Lord called me from the side, "Iohani." I turned and Christ put his arms around me and hugged me and kissed me and told me how much He really loved me and wanted to introduce me to his father Eloheim. Then He took my and introduced me to Eloheim in the place where they dwell. It was more beautiful. The place was full of light and was clear like crystal and pure and holy. It was a beauty that I cannot explain, but I felt a warmth and spirit of love in that place. He kissed me and hugged me and told me, "I wish that all my children on the earth would do the same as you have been doing in giving your time, your talent, your faith and sharing your love with others." And again he embraced me, hugged and kissed me, and Jesus did the same to me. Jesus Christ and Eloheim laid their hands on my head and ordained me to my calling. After that they hugged me again.
Immediately I heard someone speak behind me with his mouth to my ear. "I tell you right now, go and speak to your people. You don't have much time to call your people to repentance. Those who haven't received the gospel must come unto Christ and be baptized. There will be many diseases and people will die from them and destruction will come to them. Don't hesitate, but straight way talk to the missionaries, they must call the people to repentance also."
Christ spoke again in my ear and said, "Iohani, look behind you and see what's going on." I slowly turned my head to see what was behind me. I looked at my own hands and body and it was full of electric power and I saw thousands and thousands of people behind me. The understanding that I had was that they were not members of the Church and they were full of evil-all kinds of evil, and had not yet repented. Again the voice spoke into my ear. "Iohani, turn around and continue to preach to these people. Go to these people behind you and call them to repentance. Speak to them like right now."
When I was told to do that I obeyed the voice. I turned around, walked straight at them, and as I started to speak to them, it was like my whole body was in a flame of light. I didn't know where I was standing, but lit it was daytime. As soon as I started to speak, the people started to fall to the ground. Some started to cover their faces. They couldn't withstand the power that came from me. Some fell on their back on the floor, some didn't want to look at the light and turned their heads away. When I spoke to them, it looked like the people were wilting. Some were sitting against some boards and when I spoke, they fell to the floor. Some of them fell from the wall they had been sitting on. That's how powerful the spirit was. Again they tried to hide their faces of fall on their stomach. They were even falling from the houses. Some on their knees. The people were beginning to get frightened-you could tell by their eyes. As I was talking I told them to repent-then Christ told me to speak out louder-three times. Repent, be baptized, and come to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints so you can have eternal life. I did as I was told. Christ said, "Iohani, speak up louder." Again for the second time I began to speak to them very loudly with all my strength. The third time Christ spoke again to me and said, "LOUDER." Be obedient to the Lord or your life will be taken. Some didn't have clothes, some had torn clothes, and were very frightened. I don't know how many people were there, but many thousands.
When I was told by Christ to tell them to repent-I raised my hand and brought it down firmly and told them to repent. "Say it louder and louder," I was instructed. I called them to repentance with all my power and the Lord was very pleased with me."
When I was returned back to my home I wanted to wake up Salote to tell her, but the spirit said it was not the right time. I wanted her to massage my back because the pain was still in my body, my bones, my flesh, my muscles and I needed a massage. But she slept on and didn't hear me call for help.

I crawled to the bathroom and buried myself in the cool water to get some relief, but it was no comfort. My body was on fire, especially my bones and my flesh was in pain. Again I ran the shower over my heard, but nothing helped. I said a prayer and asked it it would be alright to relate the story to my wife, but the spirit told me not now. I suffered that day and throughout the next night until morning. I couldn't even move my hands.
Salote woke up and thought I had the flu so went after some aspirin. While Salote was out two sister missionaries walked into our missionary home to see if they could have breakfast with us. I crawled to the kitchen, cooked them a pot of rice. While they were eating Salote arrived with two Elders to administer to me. After the blessing I felt a little relief, but not much. I still had that pain and my body was so hot, and especially all the joints. I never experienced sharp pain like that my whole life. It began with my toes, all the say to the top of my head. There was no part of my body that was not in pain. I felt like I was inside a furnace of fire-the pain in my body was tremendous.
I started to get up and try to sit down, but couldn't discover a way to relieve the pain and heat from my body. Salote went after some more aspirin. I took it but no relief. Again she went after the same Elders to administer to me again. While they were blessing me I was taken away somewhere and don't know how long I was gone, but during that time the Savior again saw me. After I returned I was able to explain to my wife and the two sister missionaries what had happened to me.
The same day, the Lord spoke to me and said, "Why are you waiting? You need to go now because I have ordained you as my mouthpiece. Get up and go now." Though I had almost no strength in my legs and they were very shaky, I was determined to go to Ha'atafu where I was directed to go first and take Salote with me. "You are not to turn away from what you are to say to the people. When they do not what I say, there will be tidal waves, there will be bad storms, and the water from the ocean will destroy their plantation, and will come over the beaches. It will be a testimony to them that I am Jesus Christ who have sent you, and you will be my mouthpiece to your people. I am the one who created this earth and everything therein."
I was filled with the spirit of our Father in Heaven and no one could stop me. I could speak to the people with power and ask them to come unto Christ and repent and be baptized. I spoke to the people at Ha'atafu and as I spoke to the people I was full of the spirit and started to prophesy many things that would come to their life they didn't change and come unto Christ. The spirit of Christ was within me that day. I felt a great love for the Savior. And the love in my heart for my Tongan people caused my heart to ache because they hardened their hearts and I bore testimony and prophesied many things that some of the old prophets had told them in the scriptures. I preached to them Joseph Smith and authority was given to him and all the keys in the last dispensation of time. He was truly a prophet of God. They must listen to the missionaries and repent and be baptized and come unto Christ and join his church, if they really want to have eternal life. If they don't they will be destroyed.
And I did the same from Ha'atafu all the way to the next town and the next village Kanokupolu.
As I returned home in the evening a van from mission headquarters arrived to take us to a missionary meeting. When we arrived at the meeting I was very ill and they took me anyway and as I got there I fainted. They rushed me to the doctor at Vaiola Hospital thinking I had a heart attack. The severe heat had never left my body and my whole body was like a furnace of fire. The doctor couldn't find anything wrong with me except my body was heated and they couldn't get rid of the heat. I was told I must go back to Te'ekiu and run a cold shower on my head and body. Again the Savior came and spoke to me. I must go again on to the next town and was told not to fear for my life for I would be protected. Many people will hate you and many will call you names, but angels will protect you. At this time also, he reminded me that angels have heard the prayers of your forefathers and want their work done in the temple. For I was to include calling those people to bring their names to the temple and get their work done. Those forefathers had died before the gospel was brought to the islands. Lastly, when you preach to them they will swear at you, they will call you all kinds of names and hate you for telling them the truth, but don't give up but continue on preaching.
The next day I almost died again. We went out again and continued on to the next village. My body was full of the spirit of our Father in Heaven. I couldn't imagine all the words that filled my mind and my spirit-words to be used when I spoke to these people. And when I said those, I heard voices back from them saying, "You are a liar, you stop spreading lies." I expressed to them my love and the love of our Savior to them and bore them my testimony. I felt like I was going to die again. Especially my joints and bones were killing me.

Again the missionaries arrived in their van to check up on me. They had a welfare meeting we needed to attend in Nuku'alofa. Again I fell down and passed out. They took me again to Vaiola Hospital. I couldn't get rid of the pain. I asked my mission President Hopoate and another Elder to give me a blessing. After that they thought I had the flu, which was prevalent in Tonga at that time. I stayed in the shower all night, but didn't get any relief. I got up very early and went to Kanokupolu and started to preach to the people. The people were mean to me again over there. We walked to Kolovai. The same treatment.

Not my words, but from the Lord that spoke in my ear. Repent. Also He says that He will punish those in His house first before He punishes others. If the destruction comes to the house of the Lord, what about your house? Are you ready to receive the Lord when he comes? Have you repented enough? What He has told me is that He will completely destroy this whole world by fire and not to be slow about repenting because it will come to your house before it goes to others. Especially to my own family at home.
I am your father speaking to you. You can come unto Christ. I am very concerned about you. Are you ready to change your life? Don't wait any longer. The Lord won't speak any lies to me. It is the truth. We must change our lives for the better. I'm doing this because of my love and concern for you because I want to make sure that you will be protected and hope that you'll be obedient. The voice of warning is from Christ.

I want to thank you for all you have done for your mother and me, and share all my love with you. The only thing I worry about is if you are not prepared. I don't want to see you die. Forgive me if I am too harsh with you, but I won't be able to stand between you and the punishment that the Lord will mete out to those that don't repent. You must be humble before the Lord and the Lord will put his arm around you and he will protect each and every one of you. All of you are members of the Church. I humbly ask of you to please give up the smoking, your alcohol, and attend you church meetings. Most of you are not attending your sacrament meetings. Take your families when you attend your meetings.

I fear for you life if the World War III comes. It will go on until the Savior comes. There will be no more peace upon this earth until the Savior comes. That is the Lord's words and he said read Doctrine & Covenants 103:4.. This is not my word, but came from the Lord. As a father I know that you are not living up to the great knowledge that we have and being obedient to the commandments.
When we do not obey and live unrighteously, this is what will happen to you: 1 Peter 4:16-18. This is not my work, it is the Lord's work. The Lord again warns us who have been baptized in the Church, that we must keep the commandments.
The Lord can pour out the destroying angel on you-it's up to you. None of you know the time the United States will be destroyed by an atom bomb. None of us will know about the great earthquake that is to come. Some of you will be buried under the ground with it and many tidal waves, hurricanes, lots and lots of rain. There will be many disasters yet to come. The cup of the Savior will overflow with the evils of this world and he will not withhold his judgments. Compare it to the ripe grape, that is taken down and trampled under foot and good for nothing after that. In the future there will be many people fighting each other.

To the grandchildren: Why are you still living in unrighteousness, Doctrine & Covenants 41:1-7. This is the Lord speaking, if we don't change our lives, those that have been baptized in the church and have taken Christ's name, if we do not live as we should, your name will be taken away from the records of the church if you are not abiding. We should treat the gospel with love and understanding and respect, but here in the scriptures it says we should not share the gospel with dogs and pigs.

I'm humbly asking you girls that have left your husbands. Work your problems out. Go back to your husbands and make peace with your families. Have family home evening, study the scriptures, pray, and repent. The time comes soon that you waste your time running around, looking for safety, but you won't find it. But those that have repented, the Lord will protect your lives.
For those that have hardened their hearts, they will be destroyed. It comes to me in my mind because for I am your father. Out here in Tonga I preach repentance to the Tongans, but imagine my children living in sin and not changing and repenting in America. My heart cries out for you. I'm here to help non-members and they listen to the voice of warning, but my own children reject the teachings of the Savior including your parents' teachings.
In the book of Ezekiel it tells you there that when you see the wrong in your family, you should speak to them. Why am I wasting my time teaching others and neglecting my own family. Dear children, forgive me and listen to me. With all my heart and with love I beg of you that God lives and God will remove you from this earth if you do not keep all his commandments. And I ask you to all stay away from temptation and be active in the Church. Spend your time in the Church so we can have eternal life. If you don't abide by this, you may end up [with] rats. Ezekiel 33:7. My children, I wish you could listen to my voice, with love, come unto Christ. Together I speak with Christ and especially those that have hardened your hearts and closed your ears. It's not to frighten you but to help you and council you. I am the doorkeeper in the house of Israel and am here to speak to you. All of you living in sin must repent. I am not preaching to you thinking I am better than you. Come back to the Church. I wish you could read all the scriptures that I have mentioned to you.
Salote, read Ezekiel 18:21-22 and Doctrine & Covenants 43:17-27. Listen what the Savior says to us. How many times has the Savior given us the information and asked the missionaries and families to help them get back to the Church. Watch out and be prepared, for the Lord's punishment. A few years from now it will begin. The Lord will pout out his wrath and you won't be able to stand the fire.
You won't be able to stand still because he will shake the whole earth with an earthquake. It will cause the ground to open and many towns will be swallowed up in the earth. Those that live by the ocean won't be able to stop the tidal wave. It will fill the whole area. Where in the world can you be safe.
I'm telling you, my children, don't harden your heart against the Lord's work. Be humble and become active in the Church. I am very frightened what the Lord's going to pour out upon the world. It is unbelievable what is to come, especially the fire will be like rats. The only thing that will stop you from the fear is to repent and come unto Christ. I beg of you to come and change your ways and do not fear but to be happy and live in harmony with the Lord and his teachings.
Sad days are ahead of you. Many worry. But if you are on the right hand of God you find happiness, but if you chose to be on the side of Satan, he is happy when he is able to drag you down to rats. Most of all, I urge you to pay your full tithing and fast offerings. Attend your meetings and make it a full tithing and not a part-tithing so you will be safe from the destroying fire that is to come. In observing the law of tithing you will be safe from that fire. The line of fire will be in front of you and from the back and there is no way for you to run away. Only one way is to repent. That's what I'm trying to explain to you from the beginning. Isaiah 33:13-16.. Where are you going to be safe? Where are you going to turn? It will come to Zion, to people in Utah, and people in America. You will hear the voice of those that do not repent, screaming, "Where can we be safe?" It will come to those that do not repent. They will burn them up and take their life away. That's what the everlasting fire is about.
When you choose Satan and his ways, then you can see the difference between the ways of Satan and Christ. There is no peace in sin and there is confusion in your life and you don't know where you are headed. Most of you, when the war comes, where will you get your water from? The Lord has told us we must have our food storage. He has promised us that those that live and prepare themselves have no need to worry. If ye are prepared, ye need not fear. Those who come to the Rocky Mountains of Utah, the Lord has prepared also for them bread and water and the teaching of the prophet that we must prepare.
This is what the Lord told us he is going to do. He will destroy from one end to another end. All the people. If they forsake the Lord's work, you will end up with the rest of them. Ezekiel 39:17-29. Jeremiah 25:27-34. Remember we have come to the promised land to get our blessings. Choose the way you should go-the Lord's way or the other way. And again, I call all of you to repent. With all my love, Iohani Wolfgramm.

[Niemand]

“It is the terrorist organizations that must be ferreted out and brought down. We of this Church know something of such groups. The Book of Mormon speaks of the Gadianton robbers, a vicious, oath-bound, and secret organization bent on evil and destruction. In their day they did all in their power, by whatever means available, to bring down the Church, to woo the people with sophistry, and to take control of the society. We see the same thing in the present situation.” (Gordon B. Hinckley, General Conference, October, 2001)

Look at the date on this. I suspect what he is talking about here is Al-Qaeda, but he does qualify it with some statements which do not sound like Al Qaeda.

[Sarah]

“It is the terrorist organizations that must be ferreted out and brought down. We of this Church know something of such groups. The Book of Mormon speaks of the Gadianton robbers, a vicious, oath-bound, and secret organization bent on evil and destruction. In their day they did all in their power, by whatever means available, to bring down the Church, to woo the people with sophistry, and to take control of the society. We see the same thing in the present situation.” (Gordon B. Hinckley, General Conference, October, 2001)

Look at the date on this. I suspect what he is talking about here is Al-Qaeda, but he does qualify it with some statements which do not sound like Al Qaeda.

Kremlin supported Al Qaeda, and they are a terrorist organization, in league with other authoritarian leaders and Western puppets who fund and train terrorists.

Communist conspiracy lived on past the intentional liberalization that fooled the world into thinking it was dead. I'm really starting to think that Gorbachev's birthmark represents a deadly "head wound" to the beast.

[BeNotDeceived]

“It is the terrorist organizations that must be ferreted out and brought down. We of this Church know something of such groups. The Book of Mormon speaks of the Gadianton robbers, a vicious, oath-bound, and secret organization bent on evil and destruction. In their day they did all in their power, by whatever means available, to bring down the Church, to woo the people with sophistry, and to take control of the society. We see the same thing in the present situation.” (Gordon B. Hinckley, General Conference, October, 2001)

Look at the date on this. I suspect what he is talking about here is Al-Qaeda, but he does qualify it with some statements which do not sound like Al Qaeda.

Just after 911 and the last GC before March 8 2002 as per march8miacle.org

[BuriedTartaria]

Around two years ago, as I began viewing the Book of Mormon and the church differently (viewing the Book of Mormon as a warning that no prosperity is guaranteed and no truth is protected from being fallen away from and viewing the LDS church as less than it claims to be, their truth separated, not linked) this talk was one of the things that really shook me. Hinckley's remarks came off as someone completely buying into the official story. At this point in time, I remember driving in the car, listening to this talk and thinking "shouldn't a prophet of the Lord know this isn't the true story?". As a kid, listening to this talk was when it was originally given, I bought into the official story. I'm not saying I've gone "the planes were projected images and weren't even there" truther, but I think there's more to the story than the official one.

As an adult becoming cautious of the leaders of the world I live in, and listening to this talk, it just shook me a lot that the church was talking about secret combinations on one hand while preaching a message that the official story is the true story on the other. I want to say this episode for me happened at some point during 2020. So I was seeing this pattern of the church always upholding lies designed to protect Babylon and her institutions.

I'm not asking them to be Alex Jones, but they didn't have to be CNN. It doesn't matter for me anymore. I believe I've reached the correct conclusion that the Book of Mormon is true, that the LDS church is less than it claims to be and that the prophecies of the Book of Mormon will be proven true (cleansing of the vineyard, righteous remnants working together, times of the Gentiles coming to a head, judgment meted out to the sacred lands discussed in the Book of Mormon).

[Reluctant Watchman]

Of course Hinckley spoke of it, he was the secret combination. He was conspiring with others.

[Libertas]

Was the quote something like this:

"I testify that wickedness is rapidly expanding in every segment of our society. (See D&C 1:14–16; D&C 84:49–53.) It is more highly organized, more cleverly disguised, and more powerfully promoted than ever before. Secret combinations lusting for power, gain, and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world. (See Ether 8:18–25.)"

This is from President Benson in October 1988.

President Hinckley spoke about 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine in October 1998.

I don't recall anything being spoken about the 7th seal being opened at the Palmyra temple dedication, but Jodi Stoddard has stated that in one of her videos. Maybe that is where that came from.

[Chip]

Back in the April or October 1999 General Conference priesthood session, President Hinckley spoke candidly about a very powerful secret combination that was gaining control over the USA. I witnessed this at our local chapel, sitting among the men of our stake, with the session being projected live onto a screen at the front of the chapel. These statements came before his actual talk, and in trying to find them later, I could not locate them in the text or video records of the priesthood sessions.

At that time, I was new to the church and I didn't have any particular appreciation of the Constitution or the Book of Mormon's warnings in Ether 8, but I remember, very distinctly, President Hinckley's tone, what he said, and the collective sigh around me from all the other men. President Hinckley seemed acutely concerned as he explained that there was a secret combination at work within the government that was very powerful and it was gaining control over the country. Every man around me heard the same thing and they all registered it.

Today, I can't find anyone that remembers President Hinckley saying these things. Do any of you have any recollection of this from ~15 years ago? I remember this as clear as day, but I think others, like Lundbaek and Dr. Jones, who would be interested to cite the prophet's words, don't know about this. It is, perhaps, the last definitive statement on Latter Day Gadiantons that has come from the First Presidency (or Quorum Of The Twelve).

I remember it too, It may have also been during the Palmyra Temple dedication 4/6/2000. I remember him clearly stating and being floored that day marked the opening of the 7th seal. After the half hour of slience John talked about ( 21 years time ) our time. Things are not very quiet anymore and things are about to get crazy.

But i think some of it was addressed in the temple and then there is also the talk referenced about Pharo/Joseph and getting our houses in order.

You are the only person I have met who remembers this. I must have misremembered it being in Conference. It makes sense that it would have been early April. The year 2000 would have been right.

Many Christian prophets out there are reporting that we are on the cusp of very big changes. The wicked will be exposed and people will be able to make an informed decision about where they stand. What do you think about that? September 24 will be the day, some are saying. That is less than 2 weeks away.

[randyps]

I dont think anyone needs a prophet to tell them that secret combinations are all around us. Duh! Drug cartels!

Its actually quiet useless to recognize something without doing anything about it. I think what we all want to hear is action statements from our Prophets like "There is a growing danger in our country being supported and ran by big corporations, we need to boycott facebook so they lose their influence and manipulative powers, we also need to become whole food plant based eaters to cure our bodys so that big pharma no longer controls us with their pills!"

[EvanLM]

As I recall, his words went something like this:

"There is a very powerful secret combination right now that is gaining control of our government."

He was being very direct and seemed somewhat pained talk about it. Everybody felt his concern in our chapel. It was obvious that these statements were not part of the planned program, but he felt compelled to make them. He was talking about something going on right then that had immediate import to our country. The context was 'right here in the USA, right now'. The response across the room was a deep sigh, as if we had all just heard an announcement that someone had died. It stands out in my memory very clearly.

that is because he was keenly aware of the consequences of sin. and most members react this way because they have forgotten the consequence of sin. Hinckley was keenly aware of the consequences of the last days of our sin and letting sin get in our governemnt

the Nephites were constantly reminded of the consequence of sin, and therefore each attack by the Lamanites could mean their extinction and the extinction of their children which was prophesied to them by Lehi.

secret combinations were spoken of by David o Mckay and most of the general authorities at his time(20 years prophet) especially ETB. At that time, america was a more righteous nation. But, the warning was . . .stay righteous. So because of righteous ness then the fear can be less and we have had 100 years of pretty good peace.

because of the righteousness of this nation, then the Lord protected america, north and south, if you will. However there is always that warning to stay righteous and not let the combinations come above us.

So the men around you in that fireside get mad at the fear reminder (women do too) and the prophet is trying to remind us of a warning that the sees we are ignoring. His job is to warn.

So here we are today, wicked. What is the warning and what has it always been? be righteous or repent to be righteous or you will be destroyed and members of the COJCLDS as well as the prophets are telling us to not fear, I think. Yesterday, my RS counselor told me that RMN said that we shouldn't fear.

are you KIDDING me. We should be scared to death. I might be reading the scriptures wrong but it seems to me that the Lord uses fear a lot to get his people to repent and go back to righteousness. Moses ' miracles caused fear, Jonah caused fear, Alma caused fear, Moroni, Isaiah, Daniel (who was sick on his bed 3 days after he saw our day) and more prophets have recorded testimonies causing fear.

and the fear of destruction of body and soul has worked in the past as recorded in the scriptures, except with those who DID NOT repent or were not righteous. they weren't afraid of God . . no fear of God

and there we find the biggest pride in the church . . . prideful enough to think that they will automatically be passed by for destruction.

The more righteous were saved on the american continent when Jesus visited after his death. And he still told them to repent. The more righteous were told to repent more. I am scared to death. I know how quickly evil will take you down . . . I have experienced much of the evil on this earth trying to take me down.

again, here is the pride, the lack of fear. The lack of teaching fear. God has stopped protecting us which should make us as scared as Mormon and Moroni were for their people and then they gave warnings directed to us.

I am going to stay scared still knowing that if I measure up then god will save me body and soul. I fear God.

[EvanLM]

the secret combination DOJ are now raiding the house of regular american citizens that support trump . . check out Tucker Carlsons' news yesterday. We should be as scared as moroni who warned us, as well

[EvanLM]

what I mean to say is that he secret combinations have been there for some 60+ years just as the Lamanites bordered the Nephites fo rosme 100+ years. This is the way of the Lord . . .fear

[EvanLM]

John wesley Clark was one of the biggest whistle blowers . . do you rememberhis words to the american people

he was silenced at one point and stopped speakingout