LDS Freedom Forum

Let's see here - I am a fairly young man, 27 in human years, married, with two beautiful children. I moved to AZ for a teaching position, but decided I could not survive in the school system as I witnessed it - so I am back in school pursuing a pharmacy degree.

I originally hail from WY, served a mission in Paraguay, and spent a short stint at BYU before deciding it wasn't for me (I got my BA from the University of Wyoming).

I am also relatively new to the "freedom movement." I don't even know if I would be here right now, but a friend mentioned the name RON PAUL to me offhand one day, and I started listening to what the good Dr. had to say, and I really liked it. The first politician in a long time that really sounded to me like he wanted to defend the Constitution. I started reading talks from President Benson, and some of Cleon Skousen's books, among others. Seeing how the media treated Dr. Paul during the primaries really opened my eyes to how much the mainstream really despised true, conservative values.

At the same time, at a point the "freedom movement" started to be somewhat of an obsession for me, at which time I had to admit that any idea, even fighting for freedom, if taken to unhealthy extremes, can have ugly side effects. I will not say that I accept any and every "conspiracy" out there, but I am happy to discuss issues that are not normally treated by our severely controlled MSM. I will say I come from a "prototypical WY Mormon family" in that, growing up, I thought it was a sin to be a Democrat, and was more or less taught to treat with disdain and belittle any ideas that were not in step with "Republican" values. I have since come to really resent this teaching. I know there is definitely good and definitely evil out there in the world, however, most humans tend to be a blend of the two. Therefore, I like to try and take the good from any discussion and not assume that having a disagreement means one has to be absolutely right and one has to be absolutely wrong.

Thanks for having me!!

Welcome.

It is great that your careful and think things through. There is a lot of disinfo out there and a lot of people trying to make a dollar off the fear and anxiety of others. But overall, I feel Dr. Ron Paul is one you can trust. Could I also suggest Allan Watt, Alex Jones and of course our very own Prof. Steven Jones who comes on this forum from time to time. Like anyone though, they are all susceptible to their own opinions and I guess the brilliant thing about having your eyes open is that you can research any claims with an open mind.

Could you please be kind enough to answer whether you believe there is a current push for a One World Government? Whether or not you believe 9/11 was an inside job and whether you feel the USA Govt. is controlled by the elite who want to bring about this New World Order. I know they are leading questions but it helps us know where you are up to in your search for truth.

Regardless welcome to the forums. Hope you enjoy it as much as I have

Could you please be kind enough to answer whether you believe there is a current push for a One World Government? Whether or not you believe 9/11 was an inside job and whether you feel the USA Govt. is controlled by the elite who want to bring about this New World Order. I know they are leading questions but it helps us know where you are up to in your search for truth.

I have not heard of Allan Watt, but I am familiar with Alex Jones and obviously Dr. Jones (I have been getting to know him better through reading his conversations here).

As far as your questions, I do believe there is a push for One World Government. As for 9/11, I believe we don't have all the answers. I am not going to say I categorically know that it was an inside job, but I thought it was odd that more than five years after the catastrophe was the first time I learned about the third building (WTC 7) going down. I checked out the 9/11 commission report, and it said nothing about this issue. Nothing. Although, I'm sure most of you are already aware of that, as well. So, maybe I'd say I'm in the 75% range as far as believing it was an inside job. I am more of the mindset that there are many questions that need answered, and the longer the government refuses to address at least the most viable questions, my belief that it was an inside job will continue to increase. The longer the government sidesteps, the stronger the evidence that they have something to hide.

I also believe strongly that the government is controlled by the elite. It is certainly not controlled by the people much nowadays. I think where I might break with some of the participants here is I don't believe that there are necessarily a particular group of politicians who are absolutely evil. Rather, I tend to believe that most feel strongly they are doing what is best for the people and the country, but often times they are misled. I think the main reason I say this is I have such an aversion to drawing a line (especially between so-called Democrats/Republicans) and then pointing the finger at one side or the other. I believe both sides are responsible for the current trend toward our loss of freedom, but I also believe all sides (including R/D, but not just limited to those two parties) have something to bring to the table to make things better. I believe there are good people in positions of power, however, it seems that those in the highest ranks tend to be moving us away from Constitutional principles and seem to want to curtail our freedom and give government more and more power.

I hope that helps.

You are definitely among like minded people. Great to have you.

WELCOME!!!

Thanks for that. Happy to have you join the revolution

I'm a little late to the discussion, but any how...Welcome to the forum masterdmjg.