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[Looking for the right comeback...]

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lemuel wrote:[Looking for the right comeback...]
I thought for sure you were gonna post a scripture

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lemuel wrote:[Looking for the right comeback...]
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But the level of discourse sometimes really sucks! :-w

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Gee, if only people would stop breaking commandments, like mocking, scorning, making men offender for words, and laying snares, we wouldn't hardly need scriptures at all, now, would we?
2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Alma 1:9
9 Now, because Gideon withstood him with the words of God he was wroth with Gideon, and drew his sword and began to smite him....

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log wrote:Gee, if only people would stop breaking commandments, like mocking, scorning, making men offender for words, and laying snares, we wouldn't hardly need scriptures at all, now, would we?
2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Alma 1:9
9 Now, because Gideon withstood him with the words of God he was wroth with Gideon, and drew his sword and began to smite him....
Was this sarcasm (and is that mocking)?
ajax wrote:Wouldn't a normal person just answer "No" when asked?
As Bob the Tomato and Larry the Cucumber say: ...made you special and...loves you very much.
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inquirringmind wrote:
log wrote:Gee, if only people would stop breaking commandments, like mocking, scorning, making men offender for words, and laying snares, we wouldn't hardly need scriptures at all, now, would we?
2 Timothy 3
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Alma 1:9
9 Now, because Gideon withstood him with the words of God he was wroth with Gideon, and drew his sword and began to smite him....
Was this sarcasm (and is that mocking)?
As Bob the Tomato and Larry the Cucumber say: ...made you special, and...loves you very much.
It all depends on how you interpret it. I know what I meant by it, even if no other man does.

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log wrote:It all depends on how you interpret it. I know what I meant by it, even if no other man does.
But what did you mean by it (and do you care how ajax interpreted it, and whether or not it offended him)?
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This thread is like when your 4th grade teacher says "not another peep out of anyone", and resisting the urge to say "peep". But you are right Lan, we should be more charitable. And we should not take each other too seriously.

At least don't take anything I say too seriously, because I say a lot of stupid stuff.

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inquirringmind wrote:
log wrote:It all depends on how you interpret it. I know what I meant by it, even if no other man does.
But what did you mean by it (and do you care how ajax interpreted it, and whether or not it offended him)?
No, I really don't care how ajax interpreted it. If I cared, I would have said what I meant plainly. Which I chose not to then, and I choose not to now.

Being offended by Veggie Tales - that would be a new one on me!

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inquirringmind wrote:
log wrote:It all depends on how you interpret it. I know what I meant by it, even if no other man does.
But what did you mean by it (and do you care how ajax interpreted it, and whether or not it offended him)?
Good luck offending Ajax.

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log wrote:
inquirringmind wrote:
log wrote:It all depends on how you interpret it. I know what I meant by it, even if no other man does.
But what did you mean by it (and do you care how ajax interpreted it, and whether or not it offended him)?
No, I really don't care how ajax interpreted it. If I cared, I would have said what I meant plainly. Which I chose not to then, and I choose not to now.

Being offended by Veggie Tales - that would be a new one on me!
Veggie Tales is a children's story, isn't it?

Most adults are offended at being spoken to as children, and "special" might have offensive connotations of it's own.

But whatever you meant, would you care if what you said offended ajax?

BTW: I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to you and anyone else I may have offended here.
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inquirringmind wrote: But whatever you meant, would you care if what you said offended ajax?
Nope. ajax is (presumably) a big boy and can choose for himself what meaning to attach to the Veggie Tales citation and whether to take offense to the meaning he attaches to it.

And that principle goes for all alike.
Brigham Young wrote:He who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool, and he who takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool.

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Paul wrote:Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.

(1 Cor. 10:31-33.)

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Excellent scriptures.

Paul, Paul, Paul...
Acts 23
1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.

2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.

3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?

4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God’s high priest?

5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.

7 And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided.

8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.

9 And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees’ part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.

10 And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle.
Galatians 2:14
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

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log wrote:.
Acts 23
1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.

2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.

3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?

4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God’s high priest?

5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.

7 And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided.

8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.

9 And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees’ part arose, and strove, saying, We find no evil in this man: but if a spirit or an angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.

10 And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle.
Galatians 2:14
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
What is your point here?

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inquirringmind wrote: What is your point here?
Whatever you interpret it to be.

Are you truly planning on pursuing me on this topic for another 80 posts or more?

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log wrote:
inquirringmind wrote: What is your point here?
Whatever you interpret it to be.

Are you truly planning on pursuing me on this topic for another 80 posts or more?
I'd like to know what you're implying about the Apostle Paul?

Have you ever read this (from William Clayton's recording of a talk given by Joseph Smith Jr.)?
Clayton Record McIntire Record
Description of Paul the Apostle

By Joseph, January 5th 1841, at
the organization of a school of
instruction.
Description of Paul2 --He is about 5 foot high; very dark hair; dark complection; dark skin; large Roman nose; sharp face; small black eyes, penetrating as eternity; round shoulders; a whining voice, except when elevated and then it almost resembles the roaring of a Lion. He was a good orator, but Doctor Bennett3 is a superior orator, and like Paul is active and deligent, always employing himself in doing good to his fellow men.
http://www.boap.org/LDS/Parallel/1841/5Jan41.html

Don't you believe that Paul was an Apostle and a Prophet (and the inspired author of two thirds of the New Testament)?

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inquirringmind wrote:
log wrote:
inquirringmind wrote: What is your point here?
Whatever you interpret it to be.

Are you truly planning on pursuing me on this topic for another 80 posts or more?
I'd like to know what you're implying about the Apostle Paul?
Whatever you interpret my implication to be.

Are you truly planning on pursuing me on this topic for another 79 posts or more?

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You once said...
log wrote: It is hypothesized by some that Paul had mental instability due to injuries sustained from having been stoned - that this was the famous "thorn in the flesh".
And in that same thread, you spoke of what you called his "episodes."
log wrote:
inquirringmind wrote:I believe Peter was born again on the day of Pentecost, and I believe he did sin and repent after that.

But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? (Gal. 2:11-14.)
I think rather this may well have been a demonstration of one of Paul's ... interesting episodes.
Do you believe the Apostle Paul was mentally or morally deficient in some way?

Is that what you were trying to imply here?
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inquirringmind wrote:You once said...
log wrote: It is hypothesized by some that Paul had mental instability due to injuries sustained from having been stoned - that this was the famous "thorn in the flesh".
And in that same thread, you spoke of what you called his "episodes."

Do you believe the Apostle Paul was mentally or morally deficient in some way?

Is that what you were trying to imply here?
I choose not to speak of my beliefs or opinions.

Are you truly planning on pursuing me on this topic for another 78 posts or more?

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log wrote:
inquirringmind wrote: What is your point here?
Whatever you interpret it to be.
Do you know the difference between an inference and an implication?

What I take from your comments, without your clarification, would be an inference on my part.

I'm asking you for clarification so that I don't have to make any unwarranted inference.

What did you mean to imply about the Apostle Paul?

Wasn't he the original human instrument used to write two thirds of the New Testament, and didn't Joseph Smith Jr. say that the New Testament, as it was originally written, is true?
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Welp, Lan, I'd say the purpose of this thread has been accomplished, how 'bout you?

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inquirringmind wrote:
log wrote:
inquirringmind wrote: What is your point here?
Whatever you interpret it to be.
Do you know the difference between an inference and an implication?

What I take from your comments, without your clarification, would be an inference on my part.

I'm asking you for clarification so that I don't have to make any unwarranted inference.
Is something compelling you to make inferences at all? You have no free will, or no self-control?

You are free to interpret me however you wish. I decline to explain what I meant, just as you declined to explain what you meant by your two scriptural citations, which you later pared down to one.

Are you truly planning on pursuing me on this topic for another 77 posts or more?

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