Chinese medizine and the atonement

[Simon]

I have just had an extremeyl interesting experience..

As some of you may know, I have some troubles with my health since about 15 years. During the last 4 months it has become so bad, that I have not been able to do anytithing really.. At times I could do nothing more then to lie in my bed, filled with great pain.

I have literally been to hundrets of doctors, have tried hundtreds of treatments, and received tons of funny and strange diagnosis. No one has ever been able to make even a small improvement..

Anyways, this is not the point of my post. After the Lord promised me that I would recover, I came in some miraclous way across a brother who practises chinese medizine.. and here it starts to get interesting.

He explained that once we have an accident, the body stores that information. In this case, it's a false information, and we get pain of some sort. Any pain we feel is the body crying for more energy. He says, what keeps the body alive and healthy, is that this energy can naturally flow.. If it doesn't , we get sick. I have had a few accidents that were stored in my body, and no matter what treatment I got, there was no way of recovery as long as the body still had that false information.

What he did first was to make all energy flow naturally again.. and then it became interesting.. He explained to me that while he works on a person, he can feel the sicknesses these people have. He takes of my energy, and gives me his energy. He could tell me, "ohhh.. I feel a pain here and there".. and I said, right, that's where my problem is.

After he treats people, he often is really tired and exhausted because of that.. As I pondered about it, I thought it reminds me much of the atonement. Christ could feel our pains, and by that knowledge he was and is able to heal us, spiritually aswell as physicaly...

I am not totally recovered yet, but I feel better than ever in the last couple years.. He was able to heal many people where the school medizine said it cannot get healed at all. And in his patriachial blessing it says that he would heal many people..

Isn't that amazing? I think there truely is something to traditional chinese medizine, and find the way how it works extremely interesting..

The great problem is that there are just a very few that know how it really works, and there are even less" doctors" that have the gift to feel the sicknesses of their patience.. This brother was trained by chinese people, and even they said that this gift is very rare.

I miracle and a wonder to me

[sarahmj]

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[Simon]

This is another point of view you might want to consider:

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Thanks for sharing this. Let me share a few reasons why I know that in this case, it's not of the devil, but a gift given from God.

First,
The men who performs this is a 71 year old templeworker. He is very, very founded within the gospel and has a great love for the gospel.

Second,
By chance I know that in his patriachial blessing, the Lord told him that he would receive the gift to heal many, many people, which he has done for over 30 years now.

Third,
Just shortly before I came across him the Lord has revealed to me that I would recover. Something that noone has been able to do for over 15 years now.

Fourth,
There is nothing strange spiritual, esoterical or unscientific about what he does. He is not the one healing me, all he does is to allow the natural energy that every person has anyways, to flow through your body as it naturally should. The "only" spiritual there is about it, is that he has the gift to feel in his own body where my body lacks that natural energy.. He is not the one healing me, it's my own body that does that.

Fifth,
I know that there are counterfeits to this. I know there are esoterical ways to do "energyhealing", and I know them to be false. But I love the gospel, I feel the Holy Spirit strongly in my life, and I know that what this brother does is "just" traditional chinese medizine, combined with a gift the Lord has given him as promised.

Sixth,
Mayby some of you may know Brother Busche, who was a seventy. He could almoust not walk anymore, and received relief through this brothers work.. By the way, many spiriual minded members of the church go to him, noone hs every felt that this was anything near "evil".. jut the opposite

Seventh
He could be a very rich man, but has never aspired to this. His whole intent has always been to make his gift great. He often doesn't expect money, and if he does, it is nothing compared to what others ask for.. He is a very sincere persoality with a pure heart, and I love him dearly.. Whily he worked on me, we talked much about the gospel, and it were some of the most spiritual moments to me

We must be careful that we do not fall into esoterical traps, but we also should be wise enough to know when someone has received a gift from God. The gift of this brother has, has nothing to do with all that esoterical, false stuff that is out there. It merely a man understanding and using an 5000 years old, and by the way, simply medizine wisely, so that the natural energy that each of us posess, flows naturly again. The only gift this man has, given and even promised from the Lord, is to feel and know where the body lacks healing. And this I found amazing because it's appears to me as a "small" testimony of what Christ does on a much larger scale.

The Lord has given herbs and laws that are for the purpose of healing, just read the word of wisdom to see that. Not everyone that has some kind of sickness will only receive healing through a blessing alone... We all still go to the doctors if we get sick, and if we condemn such a simply medizine, that we should condemn the even more complicated medizine.

In the end I leave it to every individual to judge for themselves wether this seems to be of the devil, or from God. But as for myselfe I know that it is from God. I have experienced evil spirits, and healing methods, and impressions quiet a bit in my life... I have also experienced the other side, and it would sadden me to see tat just because the devil does much in this area, others feel the need to limit God by saying that he can, and does not work in such ways aswell.

The inspiration about all manner of wrokmanschip, science, and medizine also are truths that come through the Spirit of God.. As with all things, we need to know when something is of God, and when of the devil. The truths we receive in that way are also given for the benefit of men. And as for myselfe, I am deeply grateful about that.

[Simon]

Besides all that, it might be worth understanding what excactly he is doing.. For all he does is to go with a pen alongst the meridians, and to correct the pelvis and spine which are in a canted position because of an accident. This really is not what most would consider "energiehealing".. And that there are meridians, and that they have an influence on the entire body is well known.. All health issues I had, and partially still have simply come from my pelvis and spine, but noone has been able to correct it in a way that it keeps staying "normal", as it should.

Quiet simply really

[Frederick]

I remember reading that website a couple of years ago about energy healing. Yet, the more I've learned about the gospel, the more I realize that all truth will be circumscribed into one great whole. We think we have a monopoly on truth and worse, we think we know all of it.

Simon, I'm convinced there is much good in what you were receiving from these Chinese medical treatments. I also think that if we were able to understand and use these techniques, we'd be better off.

[Simon]

I remember reading that website a couple of years ago about energy healing. Yet, the more I've learned about the gospel, the more I realize that all truth will be circumscribed into one great whole. We think we have a monopoly on truth and worse, we think we know all of it.

Simon, I'm convinced there is much good in what you were receiving from these Chinese medical treatments. I also think that if we were able to understand and use these techniques, we'd be better off.

How true. Sometimes, believing to posess all truth keeps us from receiving further truth. I know that what I experienced is nothing more than true knowledge und understanding about how our pysical body works. He explained to me how it all works, and it is so simple that it surprised me that this had an effect on my health. Its truely often the small and simple, but true things that do heal us. Its not deeply complicated or deep secret, mysterious stuff, but simple truth. I thank God that I have not rejected such a gift

[FoxMammaWisdom]

Simon, I am SO happy to hear that you are getting some relief! And how awesome that you are open to alternative, non-traditional treatments. I like your parallel with the atonement. The way you described his treatment and his part in feeling on your behalf makes me think of the admonition to bear each other's burdens - which is certainly what Christ does. I sincerely wish this brother was here in Utah so he could work with my illness.

So does this mean that you will be making more music soon?

[Simon]

Thanks so much Jules. I will have two more treatments in the next year, and after that I hope that I feel healty again. Right now its much better, and I might try doing some music, but I know I will definetly start after christmas Have a look in the states, thers might be some that can help you, dont give up, I also had to search many years.

[pjbrownie]

Just be careful because there are forms of energy work out there that comes from that other spiritual source who uses this benefit as a gateway drug to sorcery. It may seem helpful but it can be a ruse. Reiki for example I believe is this type of deception. Like Hiram Page we need to be forever vigilant.

[Simon]

Just be careful because there are forms of energy work out there that comes from that other spiritual source who uses this benefit as a gateway drug to sorcery. It may seem helpful but it can be a ruse. Reiki for example I believe is this type of deception. Like Hiram Page we need to be forever vigilant.

That is true.. We always need to be careful to not call "good" "evil", and "evil" "good".. Dicernment is important.. But let me jus repeat, in my case there is nothing magical or spiritual about the treatment itselfe.. If's simple, founded medicine how it gets practiced since thousand of years... In germany we even have hopsitals working with these chinese traditions.. It's no spuky spiritualism at all, but only a simple "invitation" to the body to heal itselfe.