Is the Holy Ghost the Spirit of God?

[log]

It was asserted in another thread that the Spirit of God is the Holy Ghost.

Maybe this article could provide a point of departure. It is worth reading.

[Simon]

The holy spirit is, the light of Christ that enlightens every man, it is the word of God, truth, knowledge, revelations, talents like working with brass ;-). Its the power of God by which all worlds were created, it gives life to all creatures, it gives order to the planets and stars, it is the light of the stars, moon, sun. We all carry a portion of it in us, and once quickened we will receive the fullness of it, depending on what portion we carried in us. Its the power by which Christ was raised from the dead, and its the thing we have to diligently seek in. It is the mind, will and knowledge of God, it eminates from the presence of God and fills the imensity of space. Its in all things and through all things, and much, much more.

The holy Ghost is on the other hand a personage of spirit.

If interested, I can back all of this up with scriptures, but my mobilephone is just to complicated to do that right now.

Understanding this, to have his Spirit always with us becomes an even deeper meaning p

[log]

Read the article, eh?

[Simon]

Read the article, eh?

Not yet, but I promise that I will;-)

[freedomforall]

The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of God

Moses 6:65,66
64 And it came to pass, when the Lord had spoken with Adam, our father, that Adam cried unto the Lord, and he was caught away by the Spirit of the Lord, and was carried down into the water, and was laid under the water, and was brought forth out of the water.
65 And thus he was baptized, and the Spirit of God descended upon him, and thus he was born of the Spirit, and became quickened in the inner man.
66 And he heard a voice out of heaven, saying: Thou art baptized with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever;

Moses 6:26,34
26 And it came to pass that Enoch journeyed in the land, among the people; and as he journeyed, the Spirit of God descended out of heaven, and abode upon him.
34 Behold my Spirit is upon you, wherefore all thy words will I justify; and the mountains shall flee before you, and the rivers shall turn from their course; and thou shalt abide in me, and I in you; therefore walk with me.

[Simon]

I will respond to your scriptures in my next post.. First I want to share a few other thoughts..


We know, the HOLY GHOST is a PERSONAGE OF SPIRIT that dwells inside us. The personage itselfe can only be in one place at the time, but his influence can be everywhere.. So, it's worth to ponder what makes the "personage", and what the "influence".. or, what the difference between these two is.


Joseph Smith described the Godhead this way.. ( Lectures on faith )

There are two personages in the Godhead, Christ and the Father.

And he being the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and having overcome, received a fullness of the glory of the father, posessing the SAME MIND with the Father, which mind [b]IS THE HOLY SPIRIT[/b], that bears record of the Father and the Son, and THESE THREE are one; or, in other words, these three constitude the great matchless, governing and supreme power over all things; by whom all things were created and made, AND THESE THREE CONSTITUDE THE GODHEAD... which Spirit is shed forth upon all who believe on His name and keep his commandments

The Godhead consists of TWO personages, and one mind.. These three, are the Godhead If the Holy Ghost were part of it, there needed to be THREE PERSONAGES in the Godhead, but Joseph taught differently.


Here just a few scriptures about the Holy Spirit.. Watch out if thsese fit the description of a PERSONAGE

D&C 84
Spirit of God is the Light of Christ, which is light, word, truth, knowledge of God, it is in all things, through all things, comprehends all things, enlightens every man that listens to the Spirit, is the light of the son, moon, stars, enlightens our wyws, quickens our understanding, proceedeth forth from presence of God, fills the immensity of Space, gives life to all things, is the law by which all things are governed, is the Power of God

We need Spirit of God to bear presence of God while in the flesh D&C 76:118
Works and mysteries only understood by Holy Spirit D&C 76:114
Power of Spirit only given to those who love God and are purified D&C 76:116
Spirit of God quickenes to see God in the flesh D&C 67:11
Given to every man Moroni 7:16
Need to search diligently in the Light of Christ Moroni 7:19
Raised Christ from the dead 1 Pet. 3:18
We are called by Holy Spirit to teach Alma 18:34
A portion of it dwelleth in us Alma 18:35
Gives knowledge and power through faith Alma 18:35
Portion of his Spirit softenes our heart Alma 24:9
Portion of Spirit, proclaim gospel, things of kingdom
expounding mysteries of scriptures D&C 71:1

Nowhere in these descriptions do I find anythings that talks about a personage, therefore, it is not talking about the Holy Ghost, but about the Holy Spirit of God.. The great question is now, who is the Holy Ghost ? ;)

[Simon]

Moses 6:65,66
64 And it came to pass, when the Lord had spoken with Adam, our father, that Adam cried unto the Lord, and he was caught away by the Spirit of the Lord, and was carried down into the water, and was laid under the water, and was brought forth out of the water.
65 And thus he was baptized, and the Spirit of God descended upon him, and thus he was born of the Spirit, and became quickened in the inner man.
66 And he heard a voice out of heaven, saying: Thou art baptized with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever;

Understading my foregoing description, we need to look differently at these verses.. First, the Spirit of God decended upon Adam, and because the Spirit of God decended upon him, he was born of the Spirit, and became quickened in the inner man.. This is what the Holy Spirit does...

What happened THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT, is that he was BAPTIZED WITH fire, and WITH the Holy Ghost...

Moses 6:26,34
26 And it came to pass that Enoch journeyed in the land, among the people; and as he journeyed, the Spirit of God descended out of heaven, and abode upon him.
34 Behold my Spirit is upon you, wherefore all thy words will I justify; and the mountains shall flee before you, and the rivers shall turn from their course; and thou shalt abide in me, and I in you; therefore walk with me.

Te Spirit of God decended upon him, so, the mind of God enlightened Enoch, and that gave him power.. Think of it, the HOLY SPIRIT is GOD's POWER, by that power he CREATED ALL THINGS.. so, it makes sense that Enoch made the mountains flee by that same power, the mind of God.. And he was able to do so because he was one with Christ and the Father, as they are one with the Spirit of God..

Hope that makes sense to you ;)

[freedomforall]

Hope that makes sense to you

Perhaps.
And perhaps what we read in Mosiah 15:1-5 describes this, or perhaps not.

1 And now Abinadi said unto them: I would that ye should understand that God himself shall come down among the children of men, and shall redeem his people.
2 And because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son—
3 The Father, because he was conceived by the power of God (the Holy Ghost); and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son—
4 And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth.
5 And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, suffereth temptation, and yieldeth not to the temptation, but suffereth himself to be mocked, and scourged, and cast out, and disowned by his people.

who is the Holy Ghost ?

I say the Holy Ghost is God's power by what we read here:

Matthew 1:18
18 ¶Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Matthew 1:20
20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

[Simon]

The power of God is the Holy Spirit.

See D&C 84:13

The power of God is the light of Christ, which makes sense because it controls and governs all of Gods creation. Gods power is what fills the immensity of space, and therefore cant be a personage.


What makes it all difficult, is that sometimes in the Bible these two are mixed up, or fals translated. But if we trust Josephs teachings, I cant see another way to interpret it.

The Spirit of God is his power, it gives life to all of us, and it is this power by which we can gain the fullness of the father. This is the Spirit of Christ.

The Holy Spirit transmits intelligence, if we atune ourselves to that Spirit, we receive of that intelligence, through the Holy Ghost, but by the Holy Spirit.

Its like a radiostation and radiowaves, Holy Spirit being the waves, Holy Ghost being the radio. One dwells in us, the other fills the air, if you will

[ajax]

Frederick explained this very well in my mind on another thread. I hope he doesn't mind me quoting it here.
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So i have a question, could the Holy Ghost still be a seperate personage but still one with the father and son? And the Holy Spirit be the reference to God's mind? And the mention of the Christ and Heavenly Father creating everything and leaving out the Holy Ghost wouldnt necessarily mean he isnt a seperate being but that it wasnt by his power things were created just christ and the father. I am truely asking and just wish to know more on the subject.

You asked a wonderful question. If you look carefully at the scriptures and words of Joseph Smith that describe the personage of the Holy Ghost, the godhead is not referenced.

The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit that connects and communes with the Holy Spirit, which is the mind of God. The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit that dwells in you. It brings all things to your remembrance. It contains the record of heaven.

I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and that the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods.

This quote comes from Joseph Smith's last public address. Read the whole talk. It is very profound.

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Joseph also made this statement in reference to the Holy Ghost.

Joseph also said that the Holy Ghost is now in a state of probation which if he should perform in righteousness, he may pass through the same or similar course of things that the Son has.

The identity of the Holy Ghost is revealed in the temple endowment. Abraham facsimile 2 figure 7 should point you in the right direction.

Notice the first three figures in the endowment are Elohim, Jehovah and Michael. We are told that we should consider ourselves as Adam, or think Michael as he was called before he came to the earth.

The Holy Spirit is described in D&C 88

11 And the light which shineth, which giveth you light, is through him who enlighteneth your eyes, which is the same light that quickeneth your understandings;
12 Which light proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space—
13 The light which is in all things, which giveth life to all things, which is the law by which all things are governed, even the power of God who sitteth upon his throne, who is in the bosom of eternity, who is in the midst of all things. (Doctrine and Covenants, Section 88)

The Holy Spirit is also described in D&C 84

44 For you shall live by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God.
45 For the word of the Lord is truth, and whatsoever is truth is light, and whatsoever is light is Spirit, even the Spirit of Jesus Christ.
46 And the Spirit giveth light to every man that cometh into the world; and the Spirit enlighteneth every man through the world, that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit.
47 And every one that hearkeneth to the voice of the Spirit cometh unto God, even the Father. (Doctrine and Covenants, Section 84)

Think of the Holy Ghost as a personage of spirit who has lived for eternity, in heaven prior to coming to this earth. It has within it the memory or record of all of its experiences. This spirit is made holy by connecting to the mind of God. It receives light and knowledge from the mind of God. It is the spirit that dwells within you.


I hope these thoughts answer your question. I'd love to hear your thoughts as well.

[Simon]

Thats absolutely how it is

[BringerOfJoy]

It was asserted in another thread that the Spirit of God is the Holy Ghost.

Maybe this article could provide a point of departure. It is worth reading.

Thanks, for that, log. And it just illustrates the difficulty, in english, of having any kind of intelligent conversation on the subject.

[janderich]

Two quotes that I think help illuminate this subject. First from Joseph F. Smith:

The Spirit of God which emanates from Deity may be likened to electricity, ...which fills the earth and the air, and is everywhere present. It is the power of God, the influence that he exerts throughout all his works, by which he can effect his purposes and execute his will, in consonance with the laws of free agency which he has conferred upon man. By means of his Spirit every man is enlightened, the wicked as well as the good, the intelligent and the ignorant, the high and the low, each in accordance with his capacity to receive the light; and this Spirit of influence which emanates from God may be said to constitute man's consciousness, and will never cease to strive with man, until man is brought to the possession of the higher intelligence which can only come through faith, repentance, baptism for the remission of sins, and the gift or the presentation of the Holy Ghost by one having authority." (Gospel Doctrine, 5th ed., pp 61-62, see also Mormon Doctrine, "Spirit of the Lord")

Second from Parley P. Pratt. I do not believe his description of the Spirit as possessing attributes is accurate but I do think his ideas are well worth considering and pondering.

It is, therefore, an absolute impossibility for God the Father, or Jesus Christ, to be everywhere personally present. The omnipresence of God must therefore be understood in some other way than of His bodily or personal presence. This leads to the investigation of that substance called the Holy Spirit.

As the mind passes the boundaries of the visible world, and enters upon the confines of the more refined and subtle elements, it finds itself associated with certain substances in themselves invisible to our gross organs, but clearly manifested to our intellect by their tangible operations and effects. The very air we breathe, although invisible to our sight, is clearly manifested to our sense of feeling...

There are several of these subtle, invisible substances but little understood as yet by man, and their existence is only demonstrated by their effects. Some of them are recognized under the several terms, electricity, galvanism, magnetism, animal magnetism, spiritual magnetism, essence, spirit, &c. The purest, most refined and subtle of all these substances, and the one least understood, or even recognized, by the less informed among mankind, is that substance called the Holy Spirit.

This substance, like all others, is one of the elements of material or physical existence, and therefore subject to the necessary laws which govern all matter, as before enumerated. Like the other elements, its whole is composed of individual particles. Like them, each particle occupies space, possesses the power of motion, requires time to move from one part of space to another, and can in no wise occupy two spaces at once. In all these respects it differs nothing from all other matter. This substance is widely diffused among the elements of space. This Holy Spirit, under the control of the Great Eloheim, is the grand moving cause of all intelligences, and by which they act.

This is the great, positive, controlling element of all other elements. It is omnipresent by reason of the infinitude of its particles, and it comprehends all things. It is the controlling agent or executive, which organizes and puts in motion all worlds, and which, by the mandate of the Almighty, or of any of His commissioned agents, performs all the mighty wonders, signs and miracles, ever manifested in the name of the Lord—the turning of the earth backward on its axis, the dividing of the sea, the removing of a mountain, the raising of the dead, or the healing of the sick.

It penetrates the pores of the most solid substances, pierces the human system to its most inward recesses, discerns the thoughts and intents of the heart. It has power to move through space with an inconceivable velocity, far exceeding the tardy motions of electricity, or of physical light. It comprehends the past, present, and future, in all their fulness. Its inherent properties embrace all the attributes of intelligence and affection. It is endowed with knowledge, wisdom, truth, love, charity, justice, and mercy, in all their ramifications. In short, it is the attributes of the eternal power and Godhead.

Those beings who receive of its fulness are called sons of God, because they are perfected in all its attributes and powers, and being in communication with it, can, by its use, perform all things. Those beings who receive not a fulness, but a measure of it, can know and perform some things, but not all. This is the true light, which in some measure illuminates all men. It is, in its less refined particles, the physical light which reflects from the sun, moon, and stars, and other substances; and by reflection on the eye, makes visible the truths of the outward world.

It is, also, in its higher degrees, the intellectual light of our inward and spiritual organs, by which we reason, discern, judge, compare, comprehend and remember the subjects within our reach. Its inspiration constitutes instinct in animal life, reason in man, vision in the Prophets, and is continually flowing from the Godhead throughout all His creatures.

Such is the Godhead, as manifested in His words, and in His works. He dwells in His own eternal palaces of precious stones and gold, in the Royal City of the heavenly Jerusalem. He sits enthroned in the midst of all His creations, and is filled and encircled with light unapproachable by those of the lower spheres. He associates with myriads of His own begotten sons and daughters who, by translation or resurrection, have triumphed over death. His ministers are sent forth from His presence to all parts of His dominions.

His Holy Spirit centres in His presence, and communicates with, and extends to the utmost verge of His dominions, comprehending and controlling all things under the immediate direction of His own will, and the will of all those in communication with Him, in worlds without end! (Key to the Science of Theology, Parley P. Pratt)

[clarkkent14]

There are two personages that make up the godhead.

We shall in this lecture speak of the Godhead; we mean the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There are two personages who constitute the great, matchless, governing, and supreme power over all things - by whom all things were created and made that are created and made, whether visible or invisible; whether in heaven, on earth, or in the earth, under the earth, or throughout the immensity of space. They are the Father and the Son:

The Holy Spirit is not a personage.

And he being the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, and having overcome, received a fullness of the glory of the Father - possessing the same mind with the Father; which Mind is the Holy Spirit, that bears record of the Father and the Son; and these three are one, or in other words, these three constitute the great, matchless, governing, and supreme power over all things; by whom all things were created and made, that were created and made: and these three constitute the Godhead and are one: the Father and the Son possessing the same mind, the same wisdom, glory, power, and fullness; filling all in all -the Son being filled with the fullness of the Mind, glory, and power; or in other words the Spirit, glory, and power of the Father - possessing all knowledge and glory, and the same kingdom; sitting at the right hand of power, in the express image and likeness of the Father - a Mediator for man - being filled with the fullness of the Mind of the Father, or in other words, the Spirit of the Father; which Spirit is shed forth upon all who believe on his name and keep his commandments; and all those who keep his commandments shall grow up from grace to grace, and become heirs of the heavenly kingdom, and joint heirs with Jesus Christ; possessing the same mind, being transformed into the same image or likeness, even the express image of him who fills all in all; being filled with the fullness of his glory, and become one in him, even as the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one.

The Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit.

“The Holy Ghost is yet a spiritual body and is waiting to take to himself a body, as the Savior did.”[Joseph Smith, Encyclopedia of Joseph Smith's Teachings, edited by Larry E. Dahl and Donald Q. Cannon (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1997)]

In a probationary state.

“The Holy Ghost is now in a state of probation which if he should perform in righteousness he may pass through the same or a similar course of things that the Son has.” (Joseph Smith, The Words of Joseph Smith, p. 245; Sabbath address, Nauvoo, 27 August 1843. Reported by Franklin D. Richards.)

The Holy Ghost dwells in you.

The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit. Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.

It has been described in this manner:

Therefore it is given to abide in you; the record of heaven; the Comforter; the peaceable things of immortal glory; the truth of all things; that which quickeneth all things, which maketh alive all things; that which knoweth all things, and hath all power according to wisdom, mercy, truth, justice, and judgment.

Your spirit is old. It's been around for a while. Receive it. Let it inform you, trust not your your flesh. Hearkening to the Holy Spirit will allow you to receive the Holy Ghost.

For the natural man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be, forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of Christ the Lord, and becometh as a child, submissive, meek, humble, patient, full of love, willing to submit to all things which the Lord seeth fit to inflict upon him, even as a child doth submit to his father.

They are different, you cannot receive the Holy Ghost without receiving the Holy Spirit first.

And now I, Nephi, cannot write all the things which were taught among my people; neither am I mighty in writing, like unto speaking; for when a man speaketh by the power of the Holy Ghost the power of the Holy Ghost carrieth it unto the hearts of the children of men. But behold, there are many that harden their hearts against the Holy Spirit, that it hath no place in them; wherefore, they cast many things away which are written and esteem them as things of naught.

I'm still learning and growing, my thoughts adjust as I receive more light. This is where I am now.

[Contemplator]

Wow, a very worthwhile read. Thank you for posting this.

It was asserted in another thread that the Spirit of God is the Holy Ghost.

Maybe this article could provide a point of departure. It is worth reading.

[log]

Another worthwhile read (whether you agree with it or not, you should be aware of it): http://upwardthought.blogspot.com/2013/ ... art-i.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Because if this is correct, those who speak and teach of how each of our spirits is the Holy Ghost have some explaining to do.

[freedomforall]

The power of God is the Holy Spirit.

See D&C 84:13

The power of God is the light of Christ, which makes sense because it controls and governs all of Gods creation. Gods power is what fills the immensity of space, and therefore cant be a personage.


What makes it all difficult, is that sometimes in the Bible these two are mixed up, or fals translated. But if we trust Josephs teachings, I cant see another way to interpret it.

The Spirit of God is his power, it gives life to all of us, and it is this power by which we can gain the fullness of the father. This is the Spirit of Christ.

The Holy Spirit transmits intelligence, if we atune ourselves to that Spirit, we receive of that intelligence, through the Holy Ghost, but by the Holy Spirit.

Its like a radiostation and radiowaves, Holy Spirit being the waves, Holy Ghost being the radio. One dwells in us, the other fills the air, if you will

Doctrine and Covenants 84:13 is this:
13 Esaias also lived in the days of Abraham, and was blessed of him—

[Simon]

Sorry, I ment DC 88:13,

[freedomforall]

Sorry, I ment DC 88:13,

What do you say about this?

D&C 88:45-50
45 The earth rolls upon her wings, and the sun giveth his light by day, and the moon giveth her light by night, and the stars also give their light, as they roll upon their wings in their glory, in the midst of the power of God.
46 Unto what shall I liken these kingdoms, that ye may understand?
47 Behold, all these are kingdoms, and any man who hath seen any or the least of these hath seen God moving in his majesty and power.
48 I say unto you, he hath seen him; nevertheless, he who came unto his own was not comprehended.
49 The light shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehendeth it not; nevertheless, the day shall come when you shall comprehend even God, being quickened in him and by him.
50 Then shall ye know that ye have seen me, that I am, and that I am the true light that is in you, and that you are in me; otherwise ye could not abound.

The word "power" in verse 45 cross references back to these verses of which you showed already, but I think it is noteworthy to put it all together.

D&C 88:13 (7–13)
7 Which truth shineth. This is the light of Christ. As also he is in the sun, and the light of the sun, and the power thereof by which it was made.
8 As also he is in the moon, and is the light of the moon, and the power thereof by which it was made;
9 As also the light of the stars, and the power thereof by which they were made;
10 And the earth also, and the power thereof, even the earth upon which you stand.
11 And the light which shineth, which giveth you light, is through him who enlighteneth your eyes, which is the same light that quickeneth your understandings;
12 Which light proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space—
13 The light which is in all things, which giveth life to all things, which is the law by which all things are governed, even the power of God who sitteth upon his throne, who is in the bosom of eternity, who is in the midst of all things

[Simon]

I love these scriptures so much, and it makes so much sense. Gods power is the Spirit of God, or light of Christ. If we diligently seek in that light, we receive a portion of it ourselves, and if we follow this portion in us, and have faith, it will one day lead us to the fullness of the Father.

As more as we are atuned to that power, we can use that power ourselves. This is thr power by which Christ raised himselfe from the dead, and by which he peformed miracles.

To become one with God, gains a deeper meaning when understanding Gods power

[freedomforall]

The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of God

Moses 6:65,66
64 And it came to pass, when the Lord had spoken with Adam, our father, that Adam cried unto the Lord, and he was caught away by the Spirit of the Lord, and was carried down into the water, and was laid under the water, and was brought forth out of the water.
65 And thus he was baptized, and the Spirit of God descended upon him, and thus he was born of the Spirit, and became quickened in the inner man.
66 And he heard a voice out of heaven, saying: Thou art baptized with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. This is the record of the Father, and the Son, from henceforth and forever;

Moses 6:26,34
26 And it came to pass that Enoch journeyed in the land, among the people; and as he journeyed, the Spirit of God descended out of heaven, and abode upon him.
34 Behold my Spirit is upon you, wherefore all thy words will I justify; and the mountains shall flee before you, and the rivers shall turn from their course; and thou shalt abide in me, and I in you; therefore walk with me.

I find that I am incorrect. From Discourses on the Holy Ghost by N B Lundwall we read:
The Holy Ghost is not that which lighteth every man that comes into the world. It is the Spirit of God which proceeds through Christ to the world, that enlightens every man that comes into the world, and that strives with the children of men, and will continue to strive with them, until it brings them to a knowledge of the truth and the possession of the greater light and testimony of the Holy Ghost.

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[clarkkent14]

Another worthwhile read (whether you agree with it or not, you should be aware of it): http://upwardthought.blogspot.com/2013/ ... art-i.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Because if this is correct, those who speak and teach of how each of our spirits is the Holy Ghost have some explaining to do.

"The Holy Ghost is a personage, and a person cannot have the personage of the H. G. in his heart. A
man receive the gifts of the H. G., and the H. G. may descend upon a man but not to tarry with him.["]
(William Clayton Diary, 2 April 1843, WOJS)

"the Son also, but the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit.— and a person cannot have the personage <of the H G. [Holy Ghost]> in his heart he may recive the gift of the holy Ghost. it may descend upon him but not to tarry with him.—"

36 And this I know, because the Lord hath said he dwelleth not in unholy temples, but in the hearts of the righteous doth he dwell; yea, and he has also said that the righteous shall sit down in his kingdom, to go no more out; but their garments should be made white through the blood of the Lamb.

Maybe Joseph has explaining to do. Or could it be that we get hung up on the idiom of "dwelling in a heart." Perhaps we should research what the phrasing had come to mean in Joseph's day. Maybe the original meaning meant something entirely different.

Perhaps Joseph was trying to convey, that a spirit doesn't literally dwell in our hearts, but in our body, or temple, or tabernacle.

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own

Perhaps the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost are so intertwined that it is difficult to separate them in one's mind. I see them as a necessary pair. Like the positive and negative on a battery. Not polar opposites, but necessary to go hand in hand.

One has to ask, why did Joseph only see two personages?

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

Why did Stephen?

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up steadfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

If the Holy Ghost cannot dwell in us, how could Stephen be full of it? Could it be that once he aligned himself with the Mind and Will of God, by subjecting his flesh to the will of the Spirit, that His Spirit became Holy? Perhaps he obtained salvation? Perhaps each of us need to complete the Godhead for ourselves.

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are... Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth... And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth... And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Hearken to the Holy Spirit, Receive the Holy Ghost, and by doing so you will be led back through a sanctification process that will leave your Ghost Holy that ye may abide His presence. Just my straw thoughts.

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It helps if you keep the contents of both the articles I posted in mind - which necessitates reading them both.