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On another thread, Log wrote.

log wrote:

notjamesbond003.5 wrote: VofG matches straight up w John Taylor's Vision.

Was it John Taylor, or Wilford Woodruff, in whose journal it was found, or someone else? Nobody seems to know whose vision that was, if anyone's. But yes, as I mentioned, VoG has many details from these apocryphal "visions", helpfully included in the book's appendix.

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

Did WW record this in his journal as his own vision, or did he attribute it to JT?

We aren't positive who it was that had this vision but it gives us a clue in the first line of this vision, "I went to bed as usual at about 7:30PM. I had been read­ing a revela­tion in the French lan­guage."

From what I know Wilford Woodruff didn't speak French and his peer John Taylor did. John Taylor would have been someone note worthy enough for Wilford Woodruff to write down something like that too. If I would have been WW and JT would have shared that vision with me, I would have said, "Dude! Let me write that down!" Other documents have been found that show that JT had other revelations that were in his hand writing etc that didn't get published abroad. So if JT didn't publish this experience likely it wasn't the only one like this. The pattern fits but one could still ask who else could it have been? Any of the other of WW's peers speak French enough to be studying something in French?

inquirringmind wrote:On another thread, Log wrote.

log wrote:

notjamesbond003.5 wrote: VofG matches straight up w John Taylor's Vision.

Was it John Taylor, or Wilford Woodruff, in whose journal it was found, or someone else? Nobody seems to know whose vision that was, if anyone's. But yes, as I mentioned, VoG has many details from these apocryphal "visions", helpfully included in the book's appendix.

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

Did WW record this in his journal as his own vision, or did he attribute it to JT?

I answered you on Friday on the other thread where you asked this -

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Stella Solaris wrote:WW did not ever take credit for the vision, as far as I know; but he did record it in his journal. The reason why many people (including me) believe the vision was actually given to John Taylor is because Taylor was the only member of the 15 at the time who spoke/read French (WW did not) - and he states he was "reading a revela­tion in the French lan­guage" just before the vision started.

If John Taylor related the vision to WW, and he recorded it in his journal, wouldn't he have introduced it with something like "brother Taylor told me that after he fell asleep reading a revelation written in French, God gave him this vision"?

If he just recorded a vision in his journal without saying that anyone told him about it, wouldn't the presumption be that it was his vision?

And how would anyone today know that he never learned French before he died?

Why couldn't John Taylor have taught him French?