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My opinion is that this is not imcompetence from O but is deliberate. He really hates America.

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kathyn wrote:My opinion is that this is not imcompetence from O but is deliberate. He really hates America.
I think more specifically, liberty and freedom. He was raised by lovers of socialism and taught to hate freedom.
Little did the people of this country know that when Obama proclaimed "change" that it meant to abolish our right to pursue happiness and to make a further ruin of our Constitution. The man has committed high treason and still sits on his throne. His change is working.

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Looks Like Obama & Frieden Don’t Know Ebola From Shinola Until One Follows the Money

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RICH KOELE / SHUTTERSTOCK
Ron Paul, who resembles an elf, thinks the free market will save his [elven] people from oppression at the hands of the government['s dark sorcery].
Grist's Ben Adler linked to an astonishing essay written by Ron Paul about Ebola. What do you think Paul believes the government should do to stop this disease? That's right: Nothing. Paul believes that the free market can stop Ebola. In fact, he says it outright: "individuals acting in the free market can do a better job of containing Ebola than can governments. "

"The people of Liberia and other countries would be better off if the US government left them alone," Paul writes. "Leave it to private citizens to invest in African business and trade with the African people." He has many examples of what the government should do to help business help itself. Here's one: "Legitimate concerns about protecting airline passengers from those with Ebola or other infectious diseases can best be addressed by returning responsibility for passenger safety to the airlines." Paul also rails against the "the FDA’s cumbersome approval process," even though, by his own admission, "Ebola patients in the US have received permission from the Food and Drug Administration to use 'unapproved' drugs." Paul's problem, you see, is that anyone has to ask "special permission" of the government when it comes to using untested medicine.

Paul cites as an example a Firestone plant in Liberia that oversaw its own quarantine procedures when the Ebola outbreak began. "Firestone has successfully kept the Ebola virus from spreading among its employees," Paul says. In fact, "As of this writing, there are only three Ebola patients at Firestone's treatment facility." Of course, the market was much freer in 1918 when the flu pandemic killed somewhere between 50 and 100 million people, but Ron Paul has never given a $#!% about history. Ron Paul only gives a $#!% about one thing: The free market. Of course he looks at Ebola as an opportunity to

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EBOLA CZAR! EBOLA CZAR! EBOLA CZAR!

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Ebola and Open Borders

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http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/201 ... _open.html

Opponents of immigration almost instantly latched onto Ebola (see here, here and here for starters). Isn't this horrific disease the "killer argument" showing that open borders is a naively deadly proposal? The Center for Immigration Studies' Mark Krikorian swiftly coined the Twitter hashtag #LibertariansForEbola to drive the argument home.

Some libertarians downplay the risk of Ebola, even comparing it to statistically microscopic dangers like terrorism. While I agree that Americans now overestimate their risk of Ebola infection, this plague nevertheless deserves our full attention. Throughout history, contagious disease has killed billions. Even today, contagious disease causes 16% of all global deaths. Contagious disease is at least a thousand times as deadly as terrorism. And as I have said many times, the moral presumption in favor of open borders is only that - a presumption. If open borders in the face of Ebola had awful overall consequences, and there were no cheaper and more humane remedy than immigration restrictions, some restrictions would be morally justified and I would support them. The key question, then, is: Would open borders in the face of Ebola have awful consequences?

From a long-term perspective, the effect of open borders on Ebola is anything but awful. Open borders is the greatest remedy for poverty ever discovered. Ebola is a classic disease of poverty - highly contagious in a poor society, but only slightly contagious in a rich society. In poor societies, untrained laymen unsanitarily care for the severely ill, dispose of the dead, and prepare meat. In rich societies, specialized experts perform all these tasks. And as the World Health Organization explains, unsanitary treatment of the living, the dead, and meat account for almost all Ebola contagion. If you want to eliminate serious contagious diseases like Ebola during the next few decades, open borders is probably the best way to do it.

From a short-term perspective, however, the effects of open borders on Ebola are admittedly less clear. Risks are miniscule under current U.S. conditions. The only at-risk population inside the U.S. seems to be health workers who care for Ebola patients. Even the Texas family who lived with Liberian Ebola victim Thomas Duncan look fine; they're nearly out of quarantine.

Under full open borders, however, West Africans could enter the U.S. as easily as Virginians enter Maryland. There is every reason to think that hundreds of thousands of people from Liberia, Guinea, and Sierra Leone would jump at the opportunity. And while most would be healthy, a sizable minority would be infected - possibly so many that existing U.S. health facilities would be unable to safely isolate them. Health workers' risk of catching Ebola from their patients amplifies this scarcity - for every doctor or nurse who catches Ebola, how many others will refuse to expose themselves to the disease?

Fortunately, only mild departures from full open borders are necessary to avert this scary scenario. The obvious keyhole solution: Instead of freely admitting everyone from affected countries, freely admit everyone from affected countries who provides a clean bill of health and accepts a standard 21-day quarantine.

On balance, then, horrible contagious diseases like Ebola make open borders look better, not worse. In the short-run, token restrictions are enough to prevent spreading Ebola from the Third World to the First. And in the long-run, open borders is the quickest, surest way to make diseases of poverty history.

Parting thought for all you citizenists out there: As long as the Third World remains poor, it will remain fertile breeding ground for horrible contagious diseases. Some of these diseases are likely to be far more contagious than Ebola - too contagious for the most draconian border controls to keep out. A re-run of the 1918 flu would kill two million Americans. Eradicating poverty in the Third World is therefore clearly in the interests of your countrymen, present and future. If you've got a quicker cure for Third World poverty than open borders, I'd like to hear it.

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Thousands Will Die From Flu This Year, Doctors Predict

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So far, one has died of ebola in the USA!

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EBOLA CZAR! EBOLA CZAR! EBOLA CZAR!

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ABSURD: New 'Ebola Czar' misses first meeting, will 'start soon Obamas Joke House!!!

white "JOKE" house: "WE WEREN’T LOOKING FOR AN EBOLA EXPERT TO BE OUR NEW EBOLA CZAR" =))

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New York Times: Obama 'Angry' Over Ebola Response

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SHUCKY DARN----

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Why Democrats are sounding like Republicans on Ebola and the GOP is moving into overdrive

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Dems are deserting the Obama ship like the rats they are!

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REbola to dominate Sunday talk shows

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Pentagon building rapid-response Ebola team

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How Ebola Inspired Medical Martial Law Will Give Way to the Coming American Holocaust

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Video: New Ebola Czar’s Total Lack of Knowledge About Ebola Awkwardly Summed Up by WH Press Secretary

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Ebola Out of Control

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Ebolacare--

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Who's looking out for the nurses?

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Ebola cases rise sharply in western Sierra Leone

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The Odd Thing You Now Have to Do at One Texas Hospital Because of Ebola

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jdawg1012 wrote:
TZONE wrote:I have never had flu shots, except the past two years because work gave them out. I feel they made little difference but they could have helped. Not really sure. Nor did I get really sick when I did take them. This year I got sick quick. Either way I probably won't get the shots. I may try the Vitamin D. May help. I am taking On Guard (essential oil) occasionally.
Please tell me your experience with "On Guard." I use essential oils for skin conditions, burns, bugbites, etc., but don't really eat them (Except Oregano Oil, which I don't know if it counts). I have heard of "On Guard" (by doterra, right?), but have not used it/them.
We use On Guard in our home. It is from Doterra, its a blend of Wild Orange Peel, Clove Bud, Cinnamon Bark, Eucalyptus Leaf/Stem, and Rosemary Leaf/Flower essential oils.
Diffusion: Use three to four drops in the diffuser of your choice.
Internal use: Dilute one drop in 4 fl. oz. of liquid.
Topical use: Apply one to two drops to desired area. Dilute
with Fractionated Coconut Oil.

They make it in, what they call, beadlets. They are little balls, about the size of a BB. Our 2 year old son chews it up with no problem, usually asking for more. I can't stand the taste of it at all, so I just swallow it like I would any pill. They also make a toothpaste with OnGuard in it, I use that and only that. I only get sick when I am trying to get out of a meeting or some obligation I don't feel prepared for. Other than that, it's a non-issue in our home.
I'm not a doterra rep or anything so I can't help you with ordering, but I will say this, it is almost always cheaper to order it on eBay than through a rep.
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IS THERE A CURE FOR STUPIDITY? JESSE JACKSON BLAMES EBOLA ON RACISM?!?

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IS THERE A CURE FOR STUPIDITY? JESSE JACKSON BLAMES EBOLA ON RACISM?!?


Oh. Well that explains it. LOL

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As virus spreads, insurers exclude Ebola from new policies

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Border Patrol Agent: US Faces Ebola Threat Via Southern Bord

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Interesting response concerning ebola

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Scientists: Humans are ‘an infection’ and Ebola is Earth’s immune response to consume all the human ‘meat’

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