Russia preparing to attack U.S.

[Col. Flagg]

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Russia Is Preparing To Attack America

by Dave Hodges - thecommonsenseshow.com

February 26, 2013

The United States has not been attacked on the home front for 200 years dating back to the War of 1812. There exists a plethora of confirming information to support the fact that America’s days may be numbered and that we are totally unprepared for what is coming.

Russia, through the traitorous cooperation and complicity of President Obama, is positioning its assets in order to attack Alaska. Before I piece together the many elements of the planned Russian “surprise attack”, it is important for America to understand that it takes a communist to bring communism to America. Obama was bred by communists, raised by communists, educated at the finest schools with communist money, his political career was launched by communists and his controllers in the White House are communists. Part one of this series will clearly establish the fact that Obama is the lynchpin of a multigenerational plan to hand America over to the Russians and to the Chinese communists.

Obama did not just wake up one day and decide to weaken American defenses and hand over the country to the Russian communists. Obama was groomed for this position for the past several years. He is indeed the right communist, at the right time, whose mission is to bring America the most crippling form of communism the world has ever seen.

Russian Defectors Have Warned the US About This Moment

High-profile Soviet defectors have been telling American intelligence agencies for decades that the Russians have engaged in a multigenerational plot to destabilize America prior to the takeover in which both the Russians and the Chinese will unleash a ferocious military assault upon our country.

The high-ranking defector, Sergei Tretyakov, who repeatedly warned Americans that Russia’s core government had never abandoned the Cold War and still aimed to destroy the United States. In his later years, he said his main goal was to “wake up” the American people to the deadly threat posed to them by the former Soviet Union. His death was reported as a cardiac event, however, his family remains suspicious. Tretyakov joined a plethora of others who defected from the former Soviet Union in order to warn the American people about a planned attack sponsored by the Russian government with assistance from within the American government.

Former Soviet defector, Yuri Bezmenov, a well renowned media/propaganda expert defected to the United States. in 1970, and subsequently exposed the KGB’s subversive tactics against American society. Yuri Bezmenov has conducted a number of interviews in which he explains how Marxist ideology is deconstructing America’s values by controlling the media and which would ultimately serve to demoralize the country, destabilize the economy, and provoke crises in order to Sovietize the United States. Bezmenov is well known for revealing Russia’s doctrine of “ideological subversion”, a slow, long-term multi-decade process of media-based brainwashing in which the sole purpose is to confuse, confound, and destroy the moral base of America. Can anyone argue that our country’s values represent a debasement of our national sense of morality? Every perversion known to mankind in now honored in our media. Christians are out and hedonists are in. Loyal husbands and fathers are out and a philandering lifestyle is a honored “virtue.” On this point, the Russians have won.

Former Russian Colonel Stanislav Lunev has the distinction of being the highest ranking Russian military officer to defect to the United States after doing so in 1992, after Boris Yeltsin came to power. Lunev’s information was considered to be so volatile, but accurate, that the CIA, DIA, FBI, NSA placed Lunev, where he remains to this day, in the FBI’s Witness Protection Program. Lunev reported that Russia’s military, despite “losing the cold war”, continues in its war preparations which are designed to conquer the United

States by stealth

Anatoliy Golitsyn, a high-ranking KGB defector who fled to the United States in order to warn Americans about the secret Russian plan to attack the United States. Golitsyn is generally considered to be among the first and most revealing on the subject of the secret Russian plans to attack. Having authored the The Perestroika Deception in which Golitsyn wrote about the deceitful intent behind the Leninist strategy in which the present-day Communists are actively pursuing as they fake American style democratization efforts in Russia. According to Golitsyn, the short-term strategic objective of the Russians is to achieve a technological convergence with the West solely on Russian terms and mostly through a series of one-sided disarmament agreements. According to Golitsyn, after the United States military is eliminated as a strategic threat to Russia, the long-range strategic Russian plan is to pursue Lenin’s goal of replacing nation states with collectivist model of regional governments as a stepping stone to global governance. In order to achieve their final goal, Golitsyn states that Russia, after lulling America to sleep, will join with China in order to attack the United States from both the outside and inside as he detailed that …the Soviets and the Chinese will be officially reconciled and enact a “scissors strategy” in which China will attack the US through the southern border and Russia through northern border by way of Alaska. As the reader will clearly see in the following paragraphs, Obama is the catalyst in making these long-range communist plans come to fruition.

Obama the Communist

Obama has been surrounded by nothing but communists for all of his life. From Obama’s real father, Frank Marshall Davis, to the husband and wife communist terrorist team of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn from the Weathermen Underground terrorist organization, Obama has known nothing but Marxist communist philosophy in his formative years. The late Senator, Joseph McCarthy, is rolling over in his grave due to the fact that a sitting President has such a retrograde pattern of communist associations and still managed to attain the presidency.

Former FBI Weatherman Task Force supervisor, Max Noel, notes that the FBI utilized a CARL test when it conducted background checks on various suspects. The acronym CARL stands for Character, Associates, Reputation, and Loyalty used to assess candidates fitness to hold the highest office in the country. On each of these four points of power, Obama fails and fails miserably. Like many FBI law enforcement agents and officials, Noel was alarmed by the fact that someone like Barack Obama could capture the presidency. For some unexplained reason, Obama was never vetted before he became a candidate for the presidency by the FBI. This is an unacceptable result of our national security system and is wholly suggestive of internal plot to allow the installation of a blatantly communist advocate into the highest political position in America.

Today, many people have been in a position to now vet the President after Obama’s four years of “fundamentally transforming America“. This particular series will continue to connect the dots of the secretive and nefarious communist background of Barack Hussein Obama and tie his associations, actions and internal belief system to a current coup d’état which is close to capturing all of the vital elements of power in this country.

Comrade Obama’s ascension to the presidency has been a long time in the making. Interestingly, Barack Obama’s past associates especially the communist terrorists which funded his Harvard legal education and ultimately launched his political career as an Illinois state senator, namely, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, have been in lockstep with Obama his entire adult life. However, Dohrn and Ayers were not the first to indoctrinate Obama with the Marxist communist philosophy. For that information, we have to begin with Frank Marshall Davis.

Obama’s real father, Frank Marshall Davis, was a member of the Communist Party and a former Soviet Agent who was under FBI investigation for a total of 19 years. In 1948, Davis moved from Chicago to Hawaii leaving behind a colleague named Vernon Jarrett, father-in-law of Senior White House advisor, Valerie Jarrett. Yes, the Jarrett’s are communists as well. Both Jarrett and Davis wrote for a left wing newspaper called the Chicago Defender in which they espoused a communist takeover of the United States Government. In 1971, Davis, according to Joel Gilbert, reunited with his then nine-year-old son, Barack Obama, and schooled him in the ways of being a good communist for the next nine years.

Chicago Slum Lord, Valerie Jarrett

White House advisers, David Axelrod and Valerie Jarrett, were both “Red Diaper Babies, in which they were the sons and daughters of well-to-do parents who desired communism and lived out their dreams through their children’s revolutionary activities. Other notable red-diaper babies also included Rahm Emanuel and Eric Holder. Jarrett’s situation is particularly interesting in that her family and the Ayers family have been multigenerational friends which also included a marriage between the two families. Much of the Obama administration is a nest of communists and this should serve to gravely concern every American citizen.

Following the nine years of mentoring and parenting by Frank Davis, Obama made some very important communist connections which ultimately led to him obtaining an impressive college education financed by some very familiar communist activists’, namely, Tom Ayers, Con Ed CEO, and then his son Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn. You remember Bill and Bernardine, don’t you?

The Prairie Fire book was co-authored by Dohrn and Ayers, and, quite unbelievably, it was dedicated to Sirhan Sirhan, Robert Kennedy’s assassin. Former FBI informant, While appearing on The Common Sense Show, Larry Grathwohl, revealed that he testified in a court of law that Ayers and Dohrn had direct involvement in a terrorist plot which killed San Francisco police sergeant, Brian V. McDonnell, by a bomb made and planted by these Weathermen Underground terrorists.

Grathwohl also revealed that he asked Ayers, in a meeting of about 25 well-to do Weatherman, most with advanced degrees from Ivy League Universities, what the Weathermen planned to do when they achieved their goal of a communist take over the government. Grathwohl stated that Ayers paused for a moment and then said that it was likely that about 50 million Americans will have to be re-educated in concentration camps located in the American Southwest and that about 25 million would have to be eliminated, meaning that they would have to be murdered. Bill and Bernardine’s Weather Underground had the support of Cuba, East German intelligence and the North Vietnamese. I believe that since Obama was able to secure a second term, and with the power granted to him by the NDAA, that he will fulfill Ayers’ promise to Grathwohl to murder 25 million Americans who cannot be “re-educated”.

Obama’s educational and political benefactors, Ayers and Dohrn, raised a son, Chesa Boudin, who worked for Hugo Chavez , communist dictator in charge of Venezuela. Chesa Boudin was the child of Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert, members of a Weather Underground spin-off group who went to prison for an armored car robbery that resulted in the murders of two police officers and a security guard. Dohrn served seven months for her role in the robbery and this is the reason that she is ineligible to become bar certified as an attorney. Is anyone else uncomfortable with the fact that Ayers and Dohrn were the ones primarily responsible for educating Obama with communist funds and then subsequently launched his political career from their living room? Well, it is true, please read on.

Allen Hulton, a 39 year veteran of the postal service, provided a sworn affidavit to Maricopa County, AZ. Sheriff investigators, led by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, in an effort toward determining whether or not former foreign college student, Barack Obama, is eligible to be placed on Arizona’s 2012 election ballot. After reviewing Hulton’s affidavit, it is apparent that Ayers and Dohrn were in fact the de facto adoptive parents to this foreign student destined to become the first illegitimate President of the United States. As a result, Obama was treated to the finest Ivy League education that communist backed money could buy as Hulton maintains that the Ayers’ told him that they were financing the education of a promising foreign student at Harvard. Hulton also testified that he met Obama while at the Ayer’s home and he asked Obama what he going to do with all his education, to which Obama politely answered, “I am going to become the President”.

Readers should take note that this is an affidavit, and as such, is formally considered to be evidence, not conjecture or hearsay. There can be no other conclusion that the communist terrorist, Bill Ayers, began grooming Obama to become America’s first communist President during Obama’s college years. Their relationship continues into the present time as it is on record that Ayers visited the White House in August of 2009.

We also know that Obama’s communist affiliations continued well into his adulthood because of the good work of Joel Gilbert who discovered that Obama was active with a Weathermen Underground support group known as The May 19th Communist Organization, in New York. Perhaps, this is why Ayers was visiting the White House.

Frank Chapman, a communist activist and a member of the communist front group known as the World Peace Council. Chapman clearly used the term “mole” to describe Obama. He said Obama’s political climb and subsequent success in the 2008 Democratic presidential primaries was “a dialectical leap ushering in a qualitatively new era of struggle.” Chapman further stated that, “Marx once compared revolutionary struggle with the work of the mole, who sometimes burrows so far beneath the ground that he leaves no trace of his movement on the surface. This is the old revolutionary ‘mole,’ not only showing his traces on the surface but also breaking through. The Communist Party USA backs Obama to the hilt.” It is clear that Obama is their man!

America is at a serious crossroads. The United States is preparing to go to war with Iran and its allies, China and Russia, in a last ditch effort to save the Petrodollar scheme as opposed to letting China and Russia buy Iranian oil in gold. If America loses this struggle, the dollar will collapse. America’s economy is in shambles and the country can ill-afford being purposely run into the ground by a series of red-diaper babies bent on the communist takeover of this country. There can be no doubt about it, Barack Obama is a traitor to this country. He is the culmination of a distinct and purposeful mufti-generational communist plot to install a communist dictator who would weaken this country to the point that it is very vulnerable to an outside Russian attack.

Russian troops have infiltrated the United States and all signs in and around Alaska point to the fact that the Russian attack will commence through the Bering Strait and proceed southward into British Columbia, Oregon, Washington and Idaho.

Part two of this series will explore the emerging evidence to support the belief that Alaska is about to be attacked by Russia.

Thoughts? Mark, I know you'll find this - what say you?

[Fairminded]

When it comes to communism there's an excellent point to consider. We spent decades being terrified of thermonuclear confrontation and the all but literal end of the world that would take place. But the Soviet Union would've had to have realized, same as we did, that whatever method they used to win, they COULDN'T AFFORD A NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN ANY MORE THAN WE COULD. Therefore if they have had some plan in effect, it would have to be more subtle, and likely far more long lasting and deeper reaching than any simple military attack.

That's not to say that the U.S. hasn't been doing plenty to destroy itself, and that every action we've taken over the last several decades hasn't given our enemies more and more reason to hope and plan for our demise. It could be that the former Soviet Union and its communist allies don't have any superb decades long master plan for our destruction, they just see the direction we're going and are making plans to strike the killing blow when they can safely do so, as well as nudging us more and more off balance at every opportunity.

[uglypitbull]

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[samizdat]

Russia will eventually attack the USA, aided by China, but not for the reasons shown here by the OP. They will attack when America basically says that they will no longer be able to pay off their debts. The Russian people see America increasingly as an enemy that has disrupted their moral values. With the moral values espoused by many Russians, many LDS here on this board would in fact feel like they had a home in Russia. That is why American entities are increasingly under attack in Russia, and the LDS Church (unfairly) is tied with the now godless American culture.

Russia is FAR from being a Communist Country. In fact their economic policies are to the right of America's given that they have a flat tax. What Russia has is massive corruption, though not as much corruption under Putin as there was under Yeltsin. This has caused Russia to prosper. Having the number one in oil and gas helps too, as well as the power to freeze over Europe if Europe doesn't behave.

[francisco.colaco]

Samizdat,

That is quite true. While Russia has moved away from communism (and, to the best account, doesn't want it back), the US and Europe are increasingly walking towards socialism and state dependency. Whosoever believes that the russian people is amoral does not know russians at all.

[francisco.colaco]

Fairminded,

The US worst enemies are not abroad. The tares live among the wheat, and there are a lot of tares living in our western countries.

Believe me, trouble and harassment await there and here for any christian that will not bow to the wicked agenda. The powers to be will try to extripate the churches that will not yield their beliefs (being the agenda an excuse to do so). The LDS Church will be targeted, as well as other churches like the catholic and a lot of protestant churches. If I am not mistaken:

1) It will start right this year, probably even in the next three months;
2) The moment that happens, the LDS Church will explode in numbers in Russia and China (being then the world aware that LDS does not equal american decadence and godlessness).

I have had a gut feeling for more than six months now that March 2013 will be a true world changer. I may be wrong, but one never knows. After the ides of March we will have an idea of how the month will affect or not our globalised lives.

[Sam_I_Am]

Fairminded,
I have had a gut feeling for more than six months now that March 2013 will be a true world changer. I may be wrong, but one never knows.
After the ides of March we will have an idea of how the month will affect or not our globalised lives.

Francisco, you've piqued my curiosity. I'd love to hear hear your thoughts on why you think something will occur in March vs. some other time, and what exactly you are expecting to happen.

[francisco.colaco]

Sam_I_am,

Just because one has a gut feeling, one does not have to be taken as a prophet.

I am no social scientist, as a disclaimer. Engineers do not make necessarily good predictors, whereas normally economists only get it when they predict to fail predictions (I am the former, not the latter). I just believe that after the result of italian elections (kinda predictible for long), the debt crisis in most of Europe will eventually spread to the US, and the sequestration will be norm there.

The drought that is going there will make it impossible to estimate a good wheat yield in June. Remember, plant in March, harvest in June. That can lead to the start of food price hiking, which will yield also an energy crisis (the two are linked univocally, from food to energy). Being this in effect, while the effects would be felt later in the year, the set up of the crisis would be in fact felt in March. Changing the precarious equilibrium we live at. Even the most powerful empire is six meals away from dissolution. I do not think this crisis will cause generalised famine (not yet!), but will make the living for most western families more difficult and troublesome.

As I am neither a soothsayser, nor a prophet, nor an oracle, nor an haruspex, nor an astrologer, and I do not claim divinatory powers or inclinations, feel free to laugh me off. Yet, this gut feeling still persists.

[Col. Flagg]

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Why Russia Needs Alaska

by Dave Hodges - thecommonsenseshow.com

February 27, 2013

In Part one, I detailed how Obama is the right communist at precisely the right time to bring about the demise of this country. Part one revealed how Obama was born and bred to be a communist and we see the evidence of this through his East German Stasi tactics within his daily routine as evidenced by his help in passing the NDAA and other draconian unconstitutional legislation. In Part one, I also detailed how prominent Russian defectors have tried to warn America that Russia will rise up and attack the United States.

It is clear that any Russian attack upon the United States will come through Alaska and I am now of the opinion that Russia will not wait for us to attack Iran before attacking the United States. The following paragraphs will demonstrate why Alaska is so vitally important to the fulfillment of Russia’s communist plans for world domination.

The Heartland Theory

British geographer and military historian, Sir Halford MacKinder, in1904, wrote an article that changed how politicians and military men viewed the world. It was a perception that influenced Hitler to send his troops eastward in an attack upon Russia in 1940. It was also the driving force that led to the underpinnings for superpower foreign policy which guided foreign policy for both sides during the Cold War. The theory that had so influenced nearly three generations of strategists was called simply, the Heartland Theory.

Basically, Mackinder’s Heartland Theory viewed geo-political military history as a struggle between land-based and sea-based powers. Mackinder believed the world had become a “closed” system, with virtually no new lands left for the Europeans powers to discover, to conquer, and to fight over without creating chaos elsewhere. According to the theory the common denominator for world conflict has been reduced to sea powers vs. land-based powers which would subsequently struggle for dominance of the world, and the ultimate victor would be in a position to set up a world empire. The determining factor in this struggle was physical geography; “Man and not nature initiates, but nature in large measure controls”.

Containing Russia Is the Key to World Peace

From Mackinder’s perspective, Soviet Russia had to be contained within the heartland. Mackinder’s believed that whosoever controlled Eurasia, controlled the world, so long as the controller had access to useable ports. The problem for Russia is that they have so few usable ports thus impacting commerce and the movement of men and material in a time of war. So long as Russian could be prevented from being a major sea power, the forces of the United States and Western Europe were safe. However, if Russia should become a sea power in conjunction with its massive land-based power, Russia could rule the world.

Zbigniew Brzezinski confirms the Heartland Theory, in his book, A Geostrategic Framework for the Conduct of the US-Soviet Contest (pp 22-23), n which he echoed the words of Mackinder when he stated that “Whoever controls Eurasia dominates the globe. If the Soviet Union captures the peripheries of this landmass … it would not only win control of vast human, economic and military resources, but also gain access to the geostrategic approaches to the Western Hemisphere – the Atlantic and the Pacific.” For Russia, controlling the peripheries of the landmass means controlling Alaska and having access to its ports. This would make Russia the world’s most preeminent land and sea power and the world would have to pay homage to the new global master.

Stalin’s Secret Plans to Invade Alaska In 1951

In 1999, at a conference held at Yale University, previously-secret Russian documents revealed that Russian Dictator Joseph Stalin had undergone extensive planning in preparation to invade North America as early as 1951. The event was one of a series of programs sponsored by the Washington D.C.-based Cold War International History Project (CWIHP), which monitors new documents pertaining to the Cold War. The Yale conference centered on Stalin’s relationship with the United States.

These documents, from the Cold War, revealed that Stalin had a definitive plan to attack Alaska in 1951-52 and had undergone major military preparations in anticipation of the invasion. Russia has always considered itself to be landlocked and this served as the major motivation for Russia’s planned incursion which would have given Russia access to good sea ports. Stalin subsequently died and the plans were abandoned, at least temporarily.

Suspicious Happenings In Alaska

In light of the evidence, it is abundantly clear that there are clear economic, political and military reasons why the Russians would want to occupy Alaska. My interest in this topic surfaced quite serendipitously as a couple of listeners to my radio program sent me information on the Agenda 21 invasion of small Alaska communities, and oh, by the way, they also reported that they were seeing Russian troops in their respective communities.

The sighting of Russian troops in small Alaskan towns such Ketchikan, Alaska, got my undivided attention. Ketchikan is the southeastern most city in Alaska. With an estimated population of 8,050. Ketchikan is the fifth-most populous city in the state. Another area where there are civilian sightings of Russian troops is in Sitka, Alaska. The City of Sitka, formerly New Archangel under Russian rule, is located on Baranof Island and the southern half of Chichagof Island in the Alexander Archipelago of the Pacific Ocean. Additionally, one military veteran reports seeing Russian submarines, on a frequent basis, just off the coast. Further, there are civilian reports of Russian vehicles and troops moving through Alaska north of Anchorage. These are only anecdotal accounts and further proof is required in to validate these eyewitness accounts. Yet, there are indeed verifiable, reported media accounts of Russian troops on American soil.

The presence of Russian troops on American soil is very troublesome. America does not need to rely on the anecdotal accounts of Alaskan civilians to be concerned about the presence of Russian troops on American soil. Russian commandos are also “training” at Fort Carson, in Colorado Springs since last spring. Why is this concerning? The United States is about to go to war with Iran for selling its oil to Russia, China and India for gold instead of the Petrodollar. Russia and China have threatened to nuke the United States if it dares to attack Iran. Russia is, and should be considered to be an enemy of the United States.

A Stunning Act of Treason

Obama has given away seven strategic, oil-rich Alaskan islands to the Russians at a time when we could be going to war with Russia. At minimum, the oil, alone, from these Islands should be considered to be a military asset. I remain very concerned that these seven islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea could also be used as a military staging area from which to invade Alaska and defend its new claims of the mineral rich resources at the North Pole.

The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake, related to these seven Islands. Didn’t Obama promise energy independence. Didn’t this proven communist president promise to help the economy bounce back by lessening our dependence on foreign oil? And despite our ongoing economic depression, Obama killed the Keystone Pipeline a few months ago. Perhaps, very soon, America will not need the Keystone Pipeline because Alaska will not be remaining as a viable member of the United States. To those who think that Obama would never sacrifice Alaska to Russia, then please tell us “conspiracy theorists” why he would give away seven Islands, one as big as Delaware, with great natural resources, to the Russians? This is a case of bold-faced treason plain and simple. Obama and his cabinet should be arrested, tried and sentenced as we would with any traitor. Yet, there is more.

The Giveaway of Alaska

There exists documented facts which support the reasons why Alaska should be placed on high alert.

Russia recently sent four brigades to the Arctic. The Arctic can be used as a staging area for the invasion of the North Pole to protect its recent mineral claims, but more importantly, this area of the Arctic could serve as a base of operations from which to invade Alaska with the help of pre-positioned assets within the state.

In March of 2012, with a microphone left on. Obama made an unguarded comment to Russian leader Dmitry Medvedev to be “more lenient on nuclear issues” because he could be more flexible “after the November election”. Does more flexible mean killing the Keystone Pipeline prior to giving away seven rich Alaskan Islands to the Russians? Does more flexible mean letting the Russians train in Colorado Springs and in Alaska? Does being more flexible mean compromising our defense of Alaska?

More Treason From Obama

Although some journalists have said that they suspect that Obama is preparing to give away Alaska to Russia. I previously did not see how a sitting president could do such a thing and remain in office. However, if Russia were to militarily seize Alaska, that would provide Obama with a plausible excuse in which he claims America was caught off guard and the danger was unforeseen. Obama could best accomplish this by weakening the defenses of Alaska and the evidence is supportive of this suspicion. The evidence does not support a timetable, however, I would guess that this event may transpire in Obama’s last year in office, or possibly in the lame duck session where he cannot be held accountable. This article will hopefully remove Obama’s ability to excuse away the notion that America lost Alaska because it go caught with its proverbial pants down.

The giving away of seven strategic, oil-rich Islands is a good start to support a claim of treason because Obama is purposely weakening the defense of Alaska. Also, local residents along the Alaskan coast have reported to me that the massive over flights along the coast have all but ceased. The F-22′s have disappeared. The Air Force says the flights have been suspended because of oxygen concerns which are impacting the pilots. Then shouldn’t the flights be replaced by F-16′s? What about national security?These over flights have been a staple of Alaskan defense since the Cold War. If we are close to war with Iran and its ally, Russia, then shouldn’t we beefing up our patrols in Alaska?

Recently the ATF asked for gun registration records in Alaska. Perhaps the Russians need to know, in advance, where the most civilian opposition will come from when they take over Alaska.

Are Plans Being Made For a Post-Russian Takeover of Alaska?

It is now on the record that Putin said that he was going to make his country the greatest country, economically, as he said in print that he is claiming part of Alaska. Adding fuel to the fire, it is now clear that Russia is also establishing plans for an Arctic industrialization. In geopolitical and military terms, it could be an easy to claim to make if the military resistance in Alaska is greatly compromised, and it has been.

The last thing that country should do on a potential front line area is to close military facilities and bases, yet, this is exactly what is happening in Alaska. Obama and the Base Realignment and Closure Commission have been closing bases and/or reducing base operations all through Alaska. It has gotten so bad that the Alaskan Governor hired a lobbyist to prevent military reduction.

Two years ago, a prominent Russia Professor predicted the end of the United States. The professor stated that Alaska would return to the control of Russia and that the United States would be split into six pieces. John McCain recently said “I think it’s very clear that Russian ambitions are to restore the old Russian Empire. Not the Soviet Union, but the Russian Empire.”

There is also a tunnel from Russia to Alaska being constructed. Are we funding our own demise with our tax money which is designed to set up Russia’s future? Last summer, Russia challenged west coast detection capabilities of our military by making provocative moves with their submarines inside of our territorial waters. Also, in a stunning move, Putin banned adoptions of Russian children by American parents. Could it be likely that he is looking out for the Russian adoptees as this is a reaction to what Putin knows is coming?

Conclusion

Should we be closing bases on the potential front lines? Should we be failing to patrol off of our coast? Should we allow the unchallenged sightings of surfaced Russian subs close to the coastline? Any one of these events should be considered to be a serious national security concern. Yet, the media and Obama act as if all is well.

There are a lot of dots on this wall to connect. However, there is one monumental dot to seriously consider. Subsequently, I have some final questions. If Obama is willing to give away seven oil-rich Islands in the area of Alaska, during these tough economic times, then what exactly isn’t he capable of doing to the United States? Is the sacrifice of Alaska so far-fetched in light of these other considerations? Aren’t the apparent Russian plans to seize Alaska part of the fulfillment of the Heartland Theory in which Mother Russia propels itself in the status of the world’s super power by making itself both a land and sea power through the seizure of Alaska?

When someone can provide a plausible set of answers to the questions that I have raised here, then I will continue to sound the alarm that “The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming.”

[davedan]

Just like the American Embassy in Libya. If Russia attacks the US, Pres. Obama will order that the US stand down.

[Benjamin_LK]

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Why Russia Needs Alaska

by Dave Hodges - thecommonsenseshow.com

February 27, 2013

In Part one, I detailed how Obama is the right communist at precisely the right time to bring about the demise of this country. Part one revealed how Obama was born and bred to be a communist and we see the evidence of this through his East German Stasi tactics within his daily routine as evidenced by his help in passing the NDAA and other draconian unconstitutional legislation. In Part one, I also detailed how prominent Russian defectors have tried to warn America that Russia will rise up and attack the United States.

It is clear that any Russian attack upon the United States will come through Alaska and I am now of the opinion that Russia will not wait for us to attack Iran before attacking the United States. The following paragraphs will demonstrate why Alaska is so vitally important to the fulfillment of Russia’s communist plans for world domination.

The Heartland Theory

British geographer and military historian, Sir Halford MacKinder, in1904, wrote an article that changed how politicians and military men viewed the world. It was a perception that influenced Hitler to send his troops eastward in an attack upon Russia in 1940. It was also the driving force that led to the underpinnings for superpower foreign policy which guided foreign policy for both sides during the Cold War. The theory that had so influenced nearly three generations of strategists was called simply, the Heartland Theory.

Basically, Mackinder’s Heartland Theory viewed geo-political military history as a struggle between land-based and sea-based powers. Mackinder believed the world had become a “closed” system, with virtually no new lands left for the Europeans powers to discover, to conquer, and to fight over without creating chaos elsewhere. According to the theory the common denominator for world conflict has been reduced to sea powers vs. land-based powers which would subsequently struggle for dominance of the world, and the ultimate victor would be in a position to set up a world empire. The determining factor in this struggle was physical geography; “Man and not nature initiates, but nature in large measure controls”.

Containing Russia Is the Key to World Peace

From Mackinder’s perspective, Soviet Russia had to be contained within the heartland. Mackinder’s believed that whosoever controlled Eurasia, controlled the world, so long as the controller had access to useable ports. The problem for Russia is that they have so few usable ports thus impacting commerce and the movement of men and material in a time of war. So long as Russian could be prevented from being a major sea power, the forces of the United States and Western Europe were safe. However, if Russia should become a sea power in conjunction with its massive land-based power, Russia could rule the world.

Zbigniew Brzezinski confirms the Heartland Theory, in his book, A Geostrategic Framework for the Conduct of the US-Soviet Contest (pp 22-23), n which he echoed the words of Mackinder when he stated that “Whoever controls Eurasia dominates the globe. If the Soviet Union captures the peripheries of this landmass … it would not only win control of vast human, economic and military resources, but also gain access to the geostrategic approaches to the Western Hemisphere – the Atlantic and the Pacific.” For Russia, controlling the peripheries of the landmass means controlling Alaska and having access to its ports. This would make Russia the world’s most preeminent land and sea power and the world would have to pay homage to the new global master.

Stalin’s Secret Plans to Invade Alaska In 1951

In 1999, at a conference held at Yale University, previously-secret Russian documents revealed that Russian Dictator Joseph Stalin had undergone extensive planning in preparation to invade North America as early as 1951. The event was one of a series of programs sponsored by the Washington D.C.-based Cold War International History Project (CWIHP), which monitors new documents pertaining to the Cold War. The Yale conference centered on Stalin’s relationship with the United States.

These documents, from the Cold War, revealed that Stalin had a definitive plan to attack Alaska in 1951-52 and had undergone major military preparations in anticipation of the invasion. Russia has always considered itself to be landlocked and this served as the major motivation for Russia’s planned incursion which would have given Russia access to good sea ports. Stalin subsequently died and the plans were abandoned, at least temporarily.

Suspicious Happenings In Alaska

In light of the evidence, it is abundantly clear that there are clear economic, political and military reasons why the Russians would want to occupy Alaska. My interest in this topic surfaced quite serendipitously as a couple of listeners to my radio program sent me information on the Agenda 21 invasion of small Alaska communities, and oh, by the way, they also reported that they were seeing Russian troops in their respective communities.

The sighting of Russian troops in small Alaskan towns such Ketchikan, Alaska, got my undivided attention. Ketchikan is the southeastern most city in Alaska. With an estimated population of 8,050. Ketchikan is the fifth-most populous city in the state. Another area where there are civilian sightings of Russian troops is in Sitka, Alaska. The City of Sitka, formerly New Archangel under Russian rule, is located on Baranof Island and the southern half of Chichagof Island in the Alexander Archipelago of the Pacific Ocean. Additionally, one military veteran reports seeing Russian submarines, on a frequent basis, just off the coast. Further, there are civilian reports of Russian vehicles and troops moving through Alaska north of Anchorage. These are only anecdotal accounts and further proof is required in to validate these eyewitness accounts. Yet, there are indeed verifiable, reported media accounts of Russian troops on American soil.

The presence of Russian troops on American soil is very troublesome. America does not need to rely on the anecdotal accounts of Alaskan civilians to be concerned about the presence of Russian troops on American soil. Russian commandos are also “training” at Fort Carson, in Colorado Springs since last spring. Why is this concerning? The United States is about to go to war with Iran for selling its oil to Russia, China and India for gold instead of the Petrodollar. Russia and China have threatened to nuke the United States if it dares to attack Iran. Russia is, and should be considered to be an enemy of the United States.

A Stunning Act of Treason

Obama has given away seven strategic, oil-rich Alaskan islands to the Russians at a time when we could be going to war with Russia. At minimum, the oil, alone, from these Islands should be considered to be a military asset. I remain very concerned that these seven islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea could also be used as a military staging area from which to invade Alaska and defend its new claims of the mineral rich resources at the North Pole.

The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake, related to these seven Islands. Didn’t Obama promise energy independence. Didn’t this proven communist president promise to help the economy bounce back by lessening our dependence on foreign oil? And despite our ongoing economic depression, Obama killed the Keystone Pipeline a few months ago. Perhaps, very soon, America will not need the Keystone Pipeline because Alaska will not be remaining as a viable member of the United States. To those who think that Obama would never sacrifice Alaska to Russia, then please tell us “conspiracy theorists” why he would give away seven Islands, one as big as Delaware, with great natural resources, to the Russians? This is a case of bold-faced treason plain and simple. Obama and his cabinet should be arrested, tried and sentenced as we would with any traitor. Yet, there is more.

The Giveaway of Alaska

There exists documented facts which support the reasons why Alaska should be placed on high alert.

Russia recently sent four brigades to the Arctic. The Arctic can be used as a staging area for the invasion of the North Pole to protect its recent mineral claims, but more importantly, this area of the Arctic could serve as a base of operations from which to invade Alaska with the help of pre-positioned assets within the state.

In March of 2012, with a microphone left on. Obama made an unguarded comment to Russian leader Dmitry Medvedev to be “more lenient on nuclear issues” because he could be more flexible “after the November election”. Does more flexible mean killing the Keystone Pipeline prior to giving away seven rich Alaskan Islands to the Russians? Does more flexible mean letting the Russians train in Colorado Springs and in Alaska? Does being more flexible mean compromising our defense of Alaska?

More Treason From Obama

Although some journalists have said that they suspect that Obama is preparing to give away Alaska to Russia. I previously did not see how a sitting president could do such a thing and remain in office. However, if Russia were to militarily seize Alaska, that would provide Obama with a plausible excuse in which he claims America was caught off guard and the danger was unforeseen. Obama could best accomplish this by weakening the defenses of Alaska and the evidence is supportive of this suspicion. The evidence does not support a timetable, however, I would guess that this event may transpire in Obama’s last year in office, or possibly in the lame duck session where he cannot be held accountable. This article will hopefully remove Obama’s ability to excuse away the notion that America lost Alaska because it go caught with its proverbial pants down.

The giving away of seven strategic, oil-rich Islands is a good start to support a claim of treason because Obama is purposely weakening the defense of Alaska. Also, local residents along the Alaskan coast have reported to me that the massive over flights along the coast have all but ceased. The F-22′s have disappeared. The Air Force says the flights have been suspended because of oxygen concerns which are impacting the pilots. Then shouldn’t the flights be replaced by F-16′s? What about national security?These over flights have been a staple of Alaskan defense since the Cold War. If we are close to war with Iran and its ally, Russia, then shouldn’t we beefing up our patrols in Alaska?

Recently the ATF asked for gun registration records in Alaska. Perhaps the Russians need to know, in advance, where the most civilian opposition will come from when they take over Alaska.

Are Plans Being Made For a Post-Russian Takeover of Alaska?

It is now on the record that Putin said that he was going to make his country the greatest country, economically, as he said in print that he is claiming part of Alaska. Adding fuel to the fire, it is now clear that Russia is also establishing plans for an Arctic industrialization. In geopolitical and military terms, it could be an easy to claim to make if the military resistance in Alaska is greatly compromised, and it has been.

The last thing that country should do on a potential front line area is to close military facilities and bases, yet, this is exactly what is happening in Alaska. Obama and the Base Realignment and Closure Commission have been closing bases and/or reducing base operations all through Alaska. It has gotten so bad that the Alaskan Governor hired a lobbyist to prevent military reduction.

Two years ago, a prominent Russia Professor predicted the end of the United States. The professor stated that Alaska would return to the control of Russia and that the United States would be split into six pieces. John McCain recently said “I think it’s very clear that Russian ambitions are to restore the old Russian Empire. Not the Soviet Union, but the Russian Empire.”

There is also a tunnel from Russia to Alaska being constructed. Are we funding our own demise with our tax money which is designed to set up Russia’s future? Last summer, Russia challenged west coast detection capabilities of our military by making provocative moves with their submarines inside of our territorial waters. Also, in a stunning move, Putin banned adoptions of Russian children by American parents. Could it be likely that he is looking out for the Russian adoptees as this is a reaction to what Putin knows is coming?

Conclusion

Should we be closing bases on the potential front lines? Should we be failing to patrol off of our coast? Should we allow the unchallenged sightings of surfaced Russian subs close to the coastline? Any one of these events should be considered to be a serious national security concern. Yet, the media and Obama act as if all is well.

There are a lot of dots on this wall to connect. However, there is one monumental dot to seriously consider. Subsequently, I have some final questions. If Obama is willing to give away seven oil-rich Islands in the area of Alaska, during these tough economic times, then what exactly isn’t he capable of doing to the United States? Is the sacrifice of Alaska so far-fetched in light of these other considerations? Aren’t the apparent Russian plans to seize Alaska part of the fulfillment of the Heartland Theory in which Mother Russia propels itself in the status of the world’s super power by making itself both a land and sea power through the seizure of Alaska?

When someone can provide a plausible set of answers to the questions that I have raised here, then I will continue to sound the alarm that “The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming.”

I don't neccessarily see Alaska as entirely essential. Russia/China are armed with nuclear weapons, and they can use them in a precursor attack, disable and/or kill so much of the civilian population, and leave a chaotic/toxic situation for any soldiers who try to rush to the scene. It's all a question of how much of a jump the enemy can get on us in the delivery of a calculated multiple-target strike with nuclear weapons.

[SmallFarm]

I think civil war comes first. Then we'll be begging for "peacekeeping" troops.

[sbsion]

a mile long train load of Russian and Chinese just passed through Montana....I have an eye witness

[uglypitbull]

a mile long train load of Russian and Chinese just passed through Montana....I have an eye witness

How did they know what nationality they were on a train? Was the eye witness on the train? Were you meaning to include some type of military equipment in your sentence and forgot?

[Benjamin_LK]

I think civil war comes first. Then we'll be begging for "peacekeeping" troops.

More or less, in fact, isn't it ripening in iniquity, where they cast out or go to battle against the Lord and those who follow him that justifies the awful destruction in the first place?

[Benjamin_LK]

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/ ... ds-alaska/

Why Russia Needs Alaska

by Dave Hodges - thecommonsenseshow.com

February 27, 2013

In Part one, I detailed how Obama is the right communist at precisely the right time to bring about the demise of this country. Part one revealed how Obama was born and bred to be a communist and we see the evidence of this through his East German Stasi tactics within his daily routine as evidenced by his help in passing the NDAA and other draconian unconstitutional legislation. In Part one, I also detailed how prominent Russian defectors have tried to warn America that Russia will rise up and attack the United States.

It is clear that any Russian attack upon the United States will come through Alaska and I am now of the opinion that Russia will not wait for us to attack Iran before attacking the United States. The following paragraphs will demonstrate why Alaska is so vitally important to the fulfillment of Russia’s communist plans for world domination.

The Heartland Theory

British geographer and military historian, Sir Halford MacKinder, in1904, wrote an article that changed how politicians and military men viewed the world. It was a perception that influenced Hitler to send his troops eastward in an attack upon Russia in 1940. It was also the driving force that led to the underpinnings for superpower foreign policy which guided foreign policy for both sides during the Cold War. The theory that had so influenced nearly three generations of strategists was called simply, the Heartland Theory.

Basically, Mackinder’s Heartland Theory viewed geo-political military history as a struggle between land-based and sea-based powers. Mackinder believed the world had become a “closed” system, with virtually no new lands left for the Europeans powers to discover, to conquer, and to fight over without creating chaos elsewhere. According to the theory the common denominator for world conflict has been reduced to sea powers vs. land-based powers which would subsequently struggle for dominance of the world, and the ultimate victor would be in a position to set up a world empire. The determining factor in this struggle was physical geography; “Man and not nature initiates, but nature in large measure controls”.

Containing Russia Is the Key to World Peace

From Mackinder’s perspective, Soviet Russia had to be contained within the heartland. Mackinder’s believed that whosoever controlled Eurasia, controlled the world, so long as the controller had access to useable ports. The problem for Russia is that they have so few usable ports thus impacting commerce and the movement of men and material in a time of war. So long as Russian could be prevented from being a major sea power, the forces of the United States and Western Europe were safe. However, if Russia should become a sea power in conjunction with its massive land-based power, Russia could rule the world.

Zbigniew Brzezinski confirms the Heartland Theory, in his book, A Geostrategic Framework for the Conduct of the US-Soviet Contest (pp 22-23), n which he echoed the words of Mackinder when he stated that “Whoever controls Eurasia dominates the globe. If the Soviet Union captures the peripheries of this landmass … it would not only win control of vast human, economic and military resources, but also gain access to the geostrategic approaches to the Western Hemisphere – the Atlantic and the Pacific.” For Russia, controlling the peripheries of the landmass means controlling Alaska and having access to its ports. This would make Russia the world’s most preeminent land and sea power and the world would have to pay homage to the new global master.

Stalin’s Secret Plans to Invade Alaska In 1951

In 1999, at a conference held at Yale University, previously-secret Russian documents revealed that Russian Dictator Joseph Stalin had undergone extensive planning in preparation to invade North America as early as 1951. The event was one of a series of programs sponsored by the Washington D.C.-based Cold War International History Project (CWIHP), which monitors new documents pertaining to the Cold War. The Yale conference centered on Stalin’s relationship with the United States.

These documents, from the Cold War, revealed that Stalin had a definitive plan to attack Alaska in 1951-52 and had undergone major military preparations in anticipation of the invasion. Russia has always considered itself to be landlocked and this served as the major motivation for Russia’s planned incursion which would have given Russia access to good sea ports. Stalin subsequently died and the plans were abandoned, at least temporarily.

Suspicious Happenings In Alaska

In light of the evidence, it is abundantly clear that there are clear economic, political and military reasons why the Russians would want to occupy Alaska. My interest in this topic surfaced quite serendipitously as a couple of listeners to my radio program sent me information on the Agenda 21 invasion of small Alaska communities, and oh, by the way, they also reported that they were seeing Russian troops in their respective communities.

The sighting of Russian troops in small Alaskan towns such Ketchikan, Alaska, got my undivided attention. Ketchikan is the southeastern most city in Alaska. With an estimated population of 8,050. Ketchikan is the fifth-most populous city in the state. Another area where there are civilian sightings of Russian troops is in Sitka, Alaska. The City of Sitka, formerly New Archangel under Russian rule, is located on Baranof Island and the southern half of Chichagof Island in the Alexander Archipelago of the Pacific Ocean. Additionally, one military veteran reports seeing Russian submarines, on a frequent basis, just off the coast. Further, there are civilian reports of Russian vehicles and troops moving through Alaska north of Anchorage. These are only anecdotal accounts and further proof is required in to validate these eyewitness accounts. Yet, there are indeed verifiable, reported media accounts of Russian troops on American soil.

The presence of Russian troops on American soil is very troublesome. America does not need to rely on the anecdotal accounts of Alaskan civilians to be concerned about the presence of Russian troops on American soil. Russian commandos are also “training” at Fort Carson, in Colorado Springs since last spring. Why is this concerning? The United States is about to go to war with Iran for selling its oil to Russia, China and India for gold instead of the Petrodollar. Russia and China have threatened to nuke the United States if it dares to attack Iran. Russia is, and should be considered to be an enemy of the United States.

A Stunning Act of Treason

Obama has given away seven strategic, oil-rich Alaskan islands to the Russians at a time when we could be going to war with Russia. At minimum, the oil, alone, from these Islands should be considered to be a military asset. I remain very concerned that these seven islands in the Arctic Ocean and Bering Sea could also be used as a military staging area from which to invade Alaska and defend its new claims of the mineral rich resources at the North Pole.

The Department of Interior estimates billions of barrels of oil are at stake, related to these seven Islands. Didn’t Obama promise energy independence. Didn’t this proven communist president promise to help the economy bounce back by lessening our dependence on foreign oil? And despite our ongoing economic depression, Obama killed the Keystone Pipeline a few months ago. Perhaps, very soon, America will not need the Keystone Pipeline because Alaska will not be remaining as a viable member of the United States. To those who think that Obama would never sacrifice Alaska to Russia, then please tell us “conspiracy theorists” why he would give away seven Islands, one as big as Delaware, with great natural resources, to the Russians? This is a case of bold-faced treason plain and simple. Obama and his cabinet should be arrested, tried and sentenced as we would with any traitor. Yet, there is more.

The Giveaway of Alaska

There exists documented facts which support the reasons why Alaska should be placed on high alert.

Russia recently sent four brigades to the Arctic. The Arctic can be used as a staging area for the invasion of the North Pole to protect its recent mineral claims, but more importantly, this area of the Arctic could serve as a base of operations from which to invade Alaska with the help of pre-positioned assets within the state.

In March of 2012, with a microphone left on. Obama made an unguarded comment to Russian leader Dmitry Medvedev to be “more lenient on nuclear issues” because he could be more flexible “after the November election”. Does more flexible mean killing the Keystone Pipeline prior to giving away seven rich Alaskan Islands to the Russians? Does more flexible mean letting the Russians train in Colorado Springs and in Alaska? Does being more flexible mean compromising our defense of Alaska?

More Treason From Obama

Although some journalists have said that they suspect that Obama is preparing to give away Alaska to Russia. I previously did not see how a sitting president could do such a thing and remain in office. However, if Russia were to militarily seize Alaska, that would provide Obama with a plausible excuse in which he claims America was caught off guard and the danger was unforeseen. Obama could best accomplish this by weakening the defenses of Alaska and the evidence is supportive of this suspicion. The evidence does not support a timetable, however, I would guess that this event may transpire in Obama’s last year in office, or possibly in the lame duck session where he cannot be held accountable. This article will hopefully remove Obama’s ability to excuse away the notion that America lost Alaska because it go caught with its proverbial pants down.

The giving away of seven strategic, oil-rich Islands is a good start to support a claim of treason because Obama is purposely weakening the defense of Alaska. Also, local residents along the Alaskan coast have reported to me that the massive over flights along the coast have all but ceased. The F-22′s have disappeared. The Air Force says the flights have been suspended because of oxygen concerns which are impacting the pilots. Then shouldn’t the flights be replaced by F-16′s? What about national security?These over flights have been a staple of Alaskan defense since the Cold War. If we are close to war with Iran and its ally, Russia, then shouldn’t we beefing up our patrols in Alaska?

Recently the ATF asked for gun registration records in Alaska. Perhaps the Russians need to know, in advance, where the most civilian opposition will come from when they take over Alaska.

Are Plans Being Made For a Post-Russian Takeover of Alaska?

It is now on the record that Putin said that he was going to make his country the greatest country, economically, as he said in print that he is claiming part of Alaska. Adding fuel to the fire, it is now clear that Russia is also establishing plans for an Arctic industrialization. In geopolitical and military terms, it could be an easy to claim to make if the military resistance in Alaska is greatly compromised, and it has been.

The last thing that country should do on a potential front line area is to close military facilities and bases, yet, this is exactly what is happening in Alaska. Obama and the Base Realignment and Closure Commission have been closing bases and/or reducing base operations all through Alaska. It has gotten so bad that the Alaskan Governor hired a lobbyist to prevent military reduction.

Two years ago, a prominent Russia Professor predicted the end of the United States. The professor stated that Alaska would return to the control of Russia and that the United States would be split into six pieces. John McCain recently said “I think it’s very clear that Russian ambitions are to restore the old Russian Empire. Not the Soviet Union, but the Russian Empire.”

There is also a tunnel from Russia to Alaska being constructed. Are we funding our own demise with our tax money which is designed to set up Russia’s future? Last summer, Russia challenged west coast detection capabilities of our military by making provocative moves with their submarines inside of our territorial waters. Also, in a stunning move, Putin banned adoptions of Russian children by American parents. Could it be likely that he is looking out for the Russian adoptees as this is a reaction to what Putin knows is coming?

Conclusion

Should we be closing bases on the potential front lines? Should we be failing to patrol off of our coast? Should we allow the unchallenged sightings of surfaced Russian subs close to the coastline? Any one of these events should be considered to be a serious national security concern. Yet, the media and Obama act as if all is well.

There are a lot of dots on this wall to connect. However, there is one monumental dot to seriously consider. Subsequently, I have some final questions. If Obama is willing to give away seven oil-rich Islands in the area of Alaska, during these tough economic times, then what exactly isn’t he capable of doing to the United States? Is the sacrifice of Alaska so far-fetched in light of these other considerations? Aren’t the apparent Russian plans to seize Alaska part of the fulfillment of the Heartland Theory in which Mother Russia propels itself in the status of the world’s super power by making itself both a land and sea power through the seizure of Alaska?

When someone can provide a plausible set of answers to the questions that I have raised here, then I will continue to sound the alarm that “The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming.”

The F-22 is being replaced by a better jet, called the F-35 Lightning II. This new and improved jet will feature supersonic flight, stealth, and the capability to perform VTOL and attack from a hovering position with it's weapons. Again, better technology made the Raptor fighter jet obsolete pretty quickly. Although if I am right, it probably won't make a difference.

[rgates]

We did spend decades with the specter of nuclear attack over our heads. I remember the duck and cover drills, where it the nearest fallout shelter very well. What people today don't know or don't want to realize was if the then USSR would have perceived ANY sort of weakness with the United States, they would have attacked with the intent of destroying us. This came out in different books and memoirs of former Soviet officials over the years.

Right now Russia is rearming, reloading and according to Putin is back up to Cold War strategic force levels. They are running bomber over flights in Alaska again, bomber over flights at Guam, Bomber flights down the east coast, Russian ICBM sub patrols are back and going again. They have built several new generations of more accurate ICBMs, have ABM capability. All the while they bring out their old equipment, bombers, airfield, bases to put on display which gives people the "perception" that the USSR/Russia is falling apart, military is not capable, war fighting abilities severely diminished etc. When in fact they have been and are reloading and rebuilding.

Compare that to the US. Regarding ICBM's, we have pulled a lot of our Minuteman out of the ground. As I recall we have a few Minuteman 3s in active service, but the 1s, and IIs, are pretty much gone. MX, which is a far newer missile is or has been removed from active service. We have no ABM capability and haven't since the early 70s. Our bombers have been converted over from nuclear mission to conventional mission so they can focus on the war on terror. This includes the B-52s, B-1s, and B-2s. We used to have quite an arsenal of nuclear armed cruise missiles. Since Gulf 1, those have been converted to conventional mission, i.e. conventional warheads. We had a lot of nuclear armed stealth cruise missiles which have been being removed from active service at the different air bases, brought back to particular bases to be dismantled and disarmed.

During the cold war we had flying command posts (called Nightwatch) that flew daily 24/7 nuclear alert flights. Those are sitting on the ground and allegedly can be launched in 30 minutes to two hours. The bombers that were on 15 minute alert during the cold war couldn't even get off the ground, nor are the crews on alert status any more.

Awhile back I talked to some AF people as to what would happen today if radar spotted ICBMs coming over the poles to the US and the bombers needed to get off the ground. He said with a few rare exceptions, working at a war time expediency type environment, bombers would need to be re configured to a nuclear mission, then re armed. Said 14-18 hours at the minimum. I said "With the time it takes to do that, in theory the base and the bombers would be long vaporized before they launched" and the answer was "yes."

With missiles coming over the pole I asked about the response from the early warning system. Apparently with something that huge and massive showing up on the screens, and the culture of disbelief combined with the mentality of "it can't be so there for it isn't", not to mention the shock, the very first assumption would be some kind of equipment failure. So they would (waste the precious time) going through equipment verification checks before determining it is real.

To give you an idea, from the time Russia would launch ICBM's it takes about 30 minutes for warheads to hit American soil. US early warning would pick these up between 4-8 minutes after they are launched. Assuming a optimum, cold war era response (instead of checking for equipment issues) it takes another 12-15 minutes to go through the procedure, i.e. ending up with the President on the phone with the nuclear football open and ready. So 16-21 minutes have gone by before the President is making the call to launch a retaliatory strike. Since we don't live in the Cold War era, the first thing operators will look at is to see and verify that there equipment is not having problems. As I mentioned earlier that will eat some precious warning time Not to mention people will be in a state of shock and disbelief so slow to react. Not saying that they are bad people, but just slow to react because they haven't had to face a similar situation.

Now factor in Submarine Launched missiles. These would take 9-14 minutes from launch to impact depending on where the sub was positioned off the east and west coast. If such a fictional attack is coordinated the sub missiles go first, then the land based. That way early warning and leadership is totally confused or no longer exists. By the way the Navy no longer tracks Russian subs unless something flags their attention about the boat.

Air Defense of the US has traveled the same road. During the cold war, if an unidentified target or errant air craft was in an area, or headed into an area it shouldn't be, fighters were scrambled and airborne in minutes and be to the target in question within minutes. Once the cold war was declared over in 91, the fighters went off of alert and air defense slowed way down. That is until 911. If you hear the controller tapes that were released years ago, you find total confusion between the FAA and Air Force with what needed to be done. After 911, fighter intercepts were more frequent if there was a question, but still not the cold war level Now I am told that the fighter intercepts and all of that have died back again. Yes they still do them but the time to get the target information to the crew, and get the fighters launched is a lot slower then it has been.
If you think about it we really haven't had any serious problems in the previous few years, so the folks go back to sleep again.

The only thing we would have that would not immediately be effected is our submarine launched ICBM's. But wait, many of the subs have been converted to conventional missions firing conventional missiles for the war on terror, not to mention other conflicts. So we lost some of those.

What does that mean for you and I that wake up and go to work everyday? It means that if an attack from Russia happens, by the time you know something has gone on, the bombs will have already gone off and much of America will have been incinerated and fallout is starting to drop all over where the wind patterns take it. Much of the land itself would be poisoned for thousands of years because of an attack of this magnitude.

Communications in general will be down because of the electromagnetic pulse. Electronics will have been fried from the same EMP pulses released at the different detonations Power grids will be down, any generators that are on the grid, or connected to power so that they will go on if the power goes off will likely be fried and not functional. Internet in America will be down because of the various back bone switching centers that will have been obliterated not to mention electronics being fried. You won't be able to turn on your favorite cable news channel much less your TV or TV receiver. Travel will be non existent or lethal depending on where the different blast's happened and the path of the fallout.

Assuming you have a portable radio receiver that wasn't on and got fried which picks up short wave, you MIGHT be able to get news about the nation from overseas (say BBC) in 1-3 days after the attack.

Probably 75-90% of America will be dead or dying within 30-60 days. Even if you survived the blasts and fallout you may still need some medicine say pills or shots for a medical condition (heart diabetes, tumor, pick your condition) or something you are being treated for on an on going basis. Not to mention the basics. The population of America would go from around 600 million to around 100-200 million if that. We would have no industrial base, no way to get needed supplies parts, tools, whatever from over seas to America to rebuild our infrastructure even if we could. It would be many, many years assuming nothing else bad happened to the nation.

In the mean time you would see people dying from disease, starvation, not to mention in your own home town, you would see friends and neighbors with kids that are starving and dying. Disease's would run rampant. What was once cure able or fixable by going to you local medical provider would pretty much be a death sentence. Hospitals, assuming they survived would be out of critical medications and supplies within a day or two as they pretty much operate like the rest of America and don't keep a long supply anything because they can have the stuff shipped in via UPS or truck line.

Groups of armed individuals would be roving around looting, shooting and killing. No matter how big, or how deep your bunker is, somebody on the outside probably knows about it, and with time somebody will always find some way to get in and access you, your bunker and all your supplies. Even if you have a bug out semi full of food and gear, sooner or later you will be found and tracked by somebody. Either people who know that you are an individual that believes in preparedness or civilian government (local and Federal) authorities who need your food and supplies for the greater good. People have this romantic notion about living off the land, but with fallout falling, the animals, fish and even water could easily be lethal to humans (you wouldn't know it until you died) and not eatable. Even farm ground for growing you own vetetables would be worthless, even though it appears to be rich and fertile.

In our day and age people howl and cry when the internet goes down, or they can't access their favorite sporting event, or go out to dinner, or when, because of the economy and unemployment they barely have enough to live on. Imagine what life would be after an attack with very little or no food to eat, surviving is literally trying to survive with hardly anything because of the attack. Potentially you could having to decide which of your children or family members will be sacrificed so that others can live and go continue forward.

The list goes on. Truthfully if you consider the full consequences of what would happen with an attack on the US or even an EMP attack, they are awful to say the least. It would even be awful if you were fully prepared because eventually you have to come out, and eventually you have to live in a very toxic world to say the least.

The world after a nuclear attack would not be a very wonderful place to live for 100s if not thousands of years.

[Benjamin_LK]

We did spend decades with the specter of nuclear attack over our heads. I remember the duck and cover drills, where it the nearest fallout shelter very well. What people today don't know or don't want to realize was if the then USSR would have perceived ANY sort of weakness with the United States, they would have attacked with the intent of destroying us. This came out in different books and memoirs of former Soviet officials over the years.

Right now Russia is rearming, reloading and according to Putin is back up to Cold War strategic force levels. They are running bomber over flights in Alaska again, bomber over flights at Guam, Bomber flights down the east coast, Russian ICBM sub patrols are back and going again. They have built several new generations of more accurate ICBMs, have ABM capability. All the while they bring out their old equipment, bombers, airfield, bases to put on display which gives people the "perception" that the USSR/Russia is falling apart, military is not capable, war fighting abilities severely diminished etc. When in fact they have been and are reloading and rebuilding.

Compare that to the US. Regarding ICBM's, we have pulled a lot of our Minuteman out of the ground. As I recall we have a few Minuteman 3s in active service, but the 1s, and IIs, are pretty much gone. MX, which is a far newer missile is or has been removed from active service. We have no ABM capability and haven't since the early 70s. Our bombers have been converted over from nuclear mission to conventional mission so they can focus on the war on terror. This includes the B-52s, B-1s, and B-2s. We used to have quite an arsenal of nuclear armed cruise missiles. Since Gulf 1, those have been converted to conventional mission, i.e. conventional warheads. We had a lot of nuclear armed stealth cruise missiles which have been being removed from active service at the different air bases, brought back to particular bases to be dismantled and disarmed.

During the cold war we had flying command posts (called Nightwatch) that flew daily 24/7 nuclear alert flights. Those are sitting on the ground and allegedly can be launched in 30 minutes to two hours. The bombers that were on 15 minute alert during the cold war couldn't even get off the ground, nor are the crews on alert status any more.

Awhile back I talked to some AF people as to what would happen today if radar spotted ICBMs coming over the poles to the US and the bombers needed to get off the ground. He said with a few rare exceptions, working at a war time expediency type environment, bombers would need to be re configured to a nuclear mission, then re armed. Said 14-18 hours at the minimum. I said "With the time it takes to do that, in theory the base and the bombers would be long vaporized before they launched" and the answer was "yes."

With missiles coming over the pole I asked about the response from the early warning system. Apparently with something that huge and massive showing up on the screens, and the culture of disbelief combined with the mentality of "it can't be so there for it isn't", not to mention the shock, the very first assumption would be some kind of equipment failure. So they would (waste the precious time) going through equipment verification checks before determining it is real.

To give you an idea, from the time Russia would launch ICBM's it takes about 30 minutes for warheads to hit American soil. US early warning would pick these up between 4-8 minutes after they are launched. Assuming a optimum, cold war era response (instead of checking for equipment issues) it takes another 12-15 minutes to go through the procedure, i.e. ending up with the President on the phone with the nuclear football open and ready. So 16-21 minutes have gone by before the President is making the call to launch a retaliatory strike. Since we don't live in the Cold War era, the first thing operators will look at is to see and verify that there equipment is not having problems. As I mentioned earlier that will eat some precious warning time Not to mention people will be in a state of shock and disbelief so slow to react. Not saying that they are bad people, but just slow to react because they haven't had to face a similar situation.

Now factor in Submarine Launched missiles. These would take 9-14 minutes from launch to impact depending on where the sub was positioned off the east and west coast. If such a fictional attack is coordinated the sub missiles go first, then the land based. That way early warning and leadership is totally confused or no longer exists. By the way the Navy no longer tracks Russian subs unless something flags their attention about the boat.

Air Defense of the US has traveled the same road. During the cold war, if an unidentified target or errant air craft was in an area, or headed into an area it shouldn't be, fighters were scrambled and airborne in minutes and be to the target in question within minutes. Once the cold war was declared over in 91, the fighters went off of alert and air defense slowed way down. That is until 911. If you hear the controller tapes that were released years ago, you find total confusion between the FAA and Air Force with what needed to be done. After 911, fighter intercepts were more frequent if there was a question, but still not the cold war level Now I am told that the fighter intercepts and all of that have died back again. Yes they still do them but the time to get the target information to the crew, and get the fighters launched is a lot slower then it has been.
If you think about it we really haven't had any serious problems in the previous few years, so the folks go back to sleep again.

The only thing we would have that would not immediately be effected is our submarine launched ICBM's. But wait, many of the subs have been converted to conventional missions firing conventional missiles for the war on terror, not to mention other conflicts. So we lost some of those.

What does that mean for you and I that wake up and go to work everyday? It means that if an attack from Russia happens, by the time you know something has gone on, the bombs will have already gone off and much of America will have been incinerated and fallout is starting to drop all over where the wind patterns take it. Much of the land itself would be poisoned for thousands of years because of an attack of this magnitude.

Communications in general will be down because of the electromagnetic pulse. Electronics will have been fried from the same EMP pulses released at the different detonations Power grids will be down, any generators that are on the grid, or connected to power so that they will go on if the power goes off will likely be fried and not functional. Internet in America will be down because of the various back bone switching centers that will have been obliterated not to mention electronics being fried. You won't be able to turn on your favorite cable news channel much less your TV or TV receiver. Travel will be non existent or lethal depending on where the different blast's happened and the path of the fallout.

Assuming you have a portable radio receiver that wasn't on and got fried which picks up short wave, you MIGHT be able to get news about the nation from overseas (say BBC) in 1-3 days after the attack.

Probably 75-90% of America will be dead or dying within 30-60 days. Even if you survived the blasts and fallout you may still need some medicine say pills or shots for a medical condition (heart diabetes, tumor, pick your condition) or something you are being treated for on an on going basis. Not to mention the basics. The population of America would go from around 600 million to around 100-200 million if that. We would have no industrial base, no way to get needed supplies parts, tools, whatever from over seas to America to rebuild our infrastructure even if we could. It would be many, many years assuming nothing else bad happened to the nation.

In the mean time you would see people dying from disease, starvation, not to mention in your own home town, you would see friends and neighbors with kids that are starving and dying. Disease's would run rampant. What was once cure able or fixable by going to you local medical provider would pretty much be a death sentence. Hospitals, assuming they survived would be out of critical medications and supplies within a day or two as they pretty much operate like the rest of America and don't keep a long supply anything because they can have the stuff shipped in via UPS or truck line.

Groups of armed individuals would be roving around looting, shooting and killing. No matter how big, or how deep your bunker is, somebody on the outside probably knows about it, and with time somebody will always find some way to get in and access you, your bunker and all your supplies. Even if you have a bug out semi full of food and gear, sooner or later you will be found and tracked by somebody. Either people who know that you are an individual that believes in preparedness or civilian government (local and Federal) authorities who need your food and supplies for the greater good. People have this romantic notion about living off the land, but with fallout falling, the animals, fish and even water could easily be lethal to humans (you wouldn't know it until you died) and not eatable. Even farm ground for growing you own vetetables would be worthless, even though it appears to be rich and fertile.

In our day and age people howl and cry when the internet goes down, or they can't access their favorite sporting event, or go out to dinner, or when, because of the economy and unemployment they barely have enough to live on. Imagine what life would be after an attack with very little or no food to eat, surviving is literally trying to survive with hardly anything because of the attack. Potentially you could having to decide which of your children or family members will be sacrificed so that others can live and go continue forward.

The list goes on. Truthfully if you consider the full consequences of what would happen with an attack on the US or even an EMP attack, they are awful to say the least. It would even be awful if you were fully prepared because eventually you have to come out, and eventually you have to live in a very toxic world to say the least.

The world after a nuclear attack would not be a very wonderful place to live for 100s if not thousands of years.

Quite an extensive list, rgates, and welcome to the forum, I started another thread about the possibility of nuclear weapons and fallout survival being in the calamities of the last days, right here: you might enjoy taking a look and adding some advice to this thread: The Nuclear Holocaust Thread:

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@ rgates,

The United States population is under 400 million.

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We did spend decades with the specter of nuclear attack over our heads. I remember the duck and cover drills, where it the nearest fallout shelter very well. What people today don't know or don't want to realize was if the then USSR would have perceived ANY sort of weakness with the United States, they would have attacked with the intent of destroying us. This came out in different books and memoirs of former Soviet officials over the years.

Right now Russia is rearming, reloading and according to Putin is back up to Cold War strategic force levels. They are running bomber over flights in Alaska again, bomber over flights at Guam, Bomber flights down the east coast, Russian ICBM sub patrols are back and going again. They have built several new generations of more accurate ICBMs, have ABM capability. All the while they bring out their old equipment, bombers, airfield, bases to put on display which gives people the "perception" that the USSR/Russia is falling apart, military is not capable, war fighting abilities severely diminished etc. When in fact they have been and are reloading and rebuilding.

Compare that to the US. Regarding ICBM's, we have pulled a lot of our Minuteman out of the ground. As I recall we have a few Minuteman 3s in active service, but the 1s, and IIs, are pretty much gone. MX, which is a far newer missile is or has been removed from active service. We have no ABM capability and haven't since the early 70s. Our bombers have been converted over from nuclear mission to conventional mission so they can focus on the war on terror. This includes the B-52s, B-1s, and B-2s. We used to have quite an arsenal of nuclear armed cruise missiles. Since Gulf 1, those have been converted to conventional mission, i.e. conventional warheads. We had a lot of nuclear armed stealth cruise missiles which have been being removed from active service at the different air bases, brought back to particular bases to be dismantled and disarmed.

During the cold war we had flying command posts (called Nightwatch) that flew daily 24/7 nuclear alert flights. Those are sitting on the ground and allegedly can be launched in 30 minutes to two hours. The bombers that were on 15 minute alert during the cold war couldn't even get off the ground, nor are the crews on alert status any more.

Awhile back I talked to some AF people as to what would happen today if radar spotted ICBMs coming over the poles to the US and the bombers needed to get off the ground. He said with a few rare exceptions, working at a war time expediency type environment, bombers would need to be re configured to a nuclear mission, then re armed. Said 14-18 hours at the minimum. I said "With the time it takes to do that, in theory the base and the bombers would be long vaporized before they launched" and the answer was "yes."

With missiles coming over the pole I asked about the response from the early warning system. Apparently with something that huge and massive showing up on the screens, and the culture of disbelief combined with the mentality of "it can't be so there for it isn't", not to mention the shock, the very first assumption would be some kind of equipment failure. So they would (waste the precious time) going through equipment verification checks before determining it is real.

To give you an idea, from the time Russia would launch ICBM's it takes about 30 minutes for warheads to hit American soil. US early warning would pick these up between 4-8 minutes after they are launched. Assuming a optimum, cold war era response (instead of checking for equipment issues) it takes another 12-15 minutes to go through the procedure, i.e. ending up with the President on the phone with the nuclear football open and ready. So 16-21 minutes have gone by before the President is making the call to launch a retaliatory strike. Since we don't live in the Cold War era, the first thing operators will look at is to see and verify that there equipment is not having problems. As I mentioned earlier that will eat some precious warning time Not to mention people will be in a state of shock and disbelief so slow to react. Not saying that they are bad people, but just slow to react because they haven't had to face a similar situation.

Now factor in Submarine Launched missiles. These would take 9-14 minutes from launch to impact depending on where the sub was positioned off the east and west coast. If such a fictional attack is coordinated the sub missiles go first, then the land based. That way early warning and leadership is totally confused or no longer exists. By the way the Navy no longer tracks Russian subs unless something flags their attention about the boat.

Air Defense of the US has traveled the same road. During the cold war, if an unidentified target or errant air craft was in an area, or headed into an area it shouldn't be, fighters were scrambled and airborne in minutes and be to the target in question within minutes. Once the cold war was declared over in 91, the fighters went off of alert and air defense slowed way down. That is until 911. If you hear the controller tapes that were released years ago, you find total confusion between the FAA and Air Force with what needed to be done. After 911, fighter intercepts were more frequent if there was a question, but still not the cold war level Now I am told that the fighter intercepts and all of that have died back again. Yes they still do them but the time to get the target information to the crew, and get the fighters launched is a lot slower then it has been.
If you think about it we really haven't had any serious problems in the previous few years, so the folks go back to sleep again.

The only thing we would have that would not immediately be effected is our submarine launched ICBM's. But wait, many of the subs have been converted to conventional missions firing conventional missiles for the war on terror, not to mention other conflicts. So we lost some of those.

What does that mean for you and I that wake up and go to work everyday? It means that if an attack from Russia happens, by the time you know something has gone on, the bombs will have already gone off and much of America will have been incinerated and fallout is starting to drop all over where the wind patterns take it. Much of the land itself would be poisoned for thousands of years because of an attack of this magnitude.

Communications in general will be down because of the electromagnetic pulse. Electronics will have been fried from the same EMP pulses released at the different detonations Power grids will be down, any generators that are on the grid, or connected to power so that they will go on if the power goes off will likely be fried and not functional. Internet in America will be down because of the various back bone switching centers that will have been obliterated not to mention electronics being fried. You won't be able to turn on your favorite cable news channel much less your TV or TV receiver. Travel will be non existent or lethal depending on where the different blast's happened and the path of the fallout.

Assuming you have a portable radio receiver that wasn't on and got fried which picks up short wave, you MIGHT be able to get news about the nation from overseas (say BBC) in 1-3 days after the attack.

Probably 75-90% of America will be dead or dying within 30-60 days. Even if you survived the blasts and fallout you may still need some medicine say pills or shots for a medical condition (heart diabetes, tumor, pick your condition) or something you are being treated for on an on going basis. Not to mention the basics. The population of America would go from around 600 million to around 100-200 million if that. We would have no industrial base, no way to get needed supplies parts, tools, whatever from over seas to America to rebuild our infrastructure even if we could. It would be many, many years assuming nothing else bad happened to the nation.

In the mean time you would see people dying from disease, starvation, not to mention in your own home town, you would see friends and neighbors with kids that are starving and dying. Disease's would run rampant. What was once cure able or fixable by going to you local medical provider would pretty much be a death sentence. Hospitals, assuming they survived would be out of critical medications and supplies within a day or two as they pretty much operate like the rest of America and don't keep a long supply anything because they can have the stuff shipped in via UPS or truck line.

Groups of armed individuals would be roving around looting, shooting and killing. No matter how big, or how deep your bunker is, somebody on the outside probably knows about it, and with time somebody will always find some way to get in and access you, your bunker and all your supplies. Even if you have a bug out semi full of food and gear, sooner or later you will be found and tracked by somebody. Either people who know that you are an individual that believes in preparedness or civilian government (local and Federal) authorities who need your food and supplies for the greater good. People have this romantic notion about living off the land, but with fallout falling, the animals, fish and even water could easily be lethal to humans (you wouldn't know it until you died) and not eatable. Even farm ground for growing you own vetetables would be worthless, even though it appears to be rich and fertile.

In our day and age people howl and cry when the internet goes down, or they can't access their favorite sporting event, or go out to dinner, or when, because of the economy and unemployment they barely have enough to live on. Imagine what life would be after an attack with very little or no food to eat, surviving is literally trying to survive with hardly anything because of the attack. Potentially you could having to decide which of your children or family members will be sacrificed so that others can live and go continue forward.

The list goes on. Truthfully if you consider the full consequences of what would happen with an attack on the US or even an EMP attack, they are awful to say the least. It would even be awful if you were fully prepared because eventually you have to come out, and eventually you have to live in a very toxic world to say the least.

The world after a nuclear attack would not be a very wonderful place to live for 100s if not thousands of years.

Again, a lot of worldly loss would likely be the choice that members would already have to make. If NYC, Albany, Boston, and presumably other cities are already likely to suffer some form of total destruction described by Wilford Woodruff as fire (nuclear weapon?), sea hurled beyond it's bounds (tsunami) and Earthquake, it's very likely that faithful latter-day saints would have already made the decision to accept expulsion from these major cities before they are totally destroyed, and perhaps end up living in the Canadian Wilderness. As far as I'm concerned there's nothing short of the power of God, and some serious miracles which defy current human understanding which will allow anyone to survive all of the destructive calamities, be they nuclear holocaust, earthquake, volcano, you name it - there would have to be some sort of divine intervention, but rest assured, there will some how be some sort of church order not fallen into Apostasy either, so, whatever happens, God will be very much involved in making sure the Earth is cleansed, and his Church remains free of total churchwide apostasy through all that happens. If God has to raise the dead, so be it, if this God has the power to turn water into wine, he no doubt has the power to purge bodies of water, or soil into radiation-free zones, following the nuclear holocaust. He can do countless things. All I know is that after having reviewed the total destruction, I am pretty sure nothing of faithfulness will allow me to be alive on this Earth after the calamities, whether a survivor or called by the Savior to Rise from the dead, I don't think it makes much of a difference.