Moray Device

[davedan]

If you don't know about T. Henry Moray, he was a faithful LDS member, served a mission in Sweden and worked as a scientist and imventor. He died in 1974. During his lifetime, he developed a so-called "free-radiant-energy" device that could generate up to 50 kilowatts of power.

I have never witnessed any other free-energy device produce as much heat as the Moray did. Heat is the "good fruit" by which all energy devices must be judged. The Moray device was demonstrated many times to energize banks of incandescent bulbs as well as heat up 400-Watt flat irons all at the same time. He did have a problem with running powertools because the motors were built to run on 120 Volts/60-Hz AC. The power coming from the Moray Device was a much higher frequency. He often reported a purple cold-plasma ionization around the windings of the motor of a power tool.

Dr. Moray could never explain exactly how the device worked and consequently was never able to secure a patent. He had many threats against his life and after refusing to turn his technology over to the Communists, his lab assistant destroyed the device with a hammer. Because of war and inflation he never again could afford to build any of the key components. Dr. Moray went to his grave believing that he was the victim of a terrible Communist plot. Consequently, like Tesla, Dr Moray went to his grave with the secrets to his device not wanting them to fall into the hands of the Communists who seemed to take a much bigger intetest in his research than the US did.

Dr. Moray contacted Dr Harvey Fletcher at Bell Laboratories and told him about many key aspects of his Moray Valve and Moray device. It should be no surprise that a few years later Bell Laboratories came out with the transistor.

1. I believe the Moray Device worked
2. I do not believe it worked on the principles ofvfree, radiant, or zero-point energy
3. I believe the Moray Valve was instead a very efficent beta-voltaic cell.
4. I believe Moray's assistant was a fabian globalist spy who destroyed the device after the globalist were able to replicate it.

This picture gives a schematic of an early version of the Moray Device:

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This picture gives a diagram of the Moray Valve:

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[davedan]

Schematic of Moray Device:

The Moray device seems to be divided into 3 sections:

1. HF Antenna Long Wire, Tunned LC Circuit, and Ground (simple radio receiver)
2. Moray Valve(s) (beta-voltaic cell)
3. Tubes and Coils which converted and transformed DC voltage from the Moray Valve into High Frequency AC at 120 Volts
(Like a tube version of a Joule thief/ringer circuit)


Dr. Moray thought the Moray Valve was working like a crystal radio and receiving and amplifying cosmic rays which he called radiant energy. This is because he thought the device required an antenna that the antenna was receiving the source of the energy.

I think the Moray device was not "receiving" free-energy, but I think that the applied HF signal across the semiconductor was tuned until the applied radio electric signal was in phononic resonance with the gallium-doped germanium p-type semiconductor in the Moray Valve according to the "Speed of quantum transition?" or "Electron-phononic coupling" of 1.094 MHz.m.

[davedan]

Moray Valve:

This is the heart of the device. Dozens of Moray Valves were placed in series to generate higher power outputs.

The key to the Moray Valve was:
1. It was a cold vacuum tube. (there was no heater, no grid, no electron beam)
2. It contained an energetic radioactive alpha-emitter like Polonium (Radium F)
3. it contained a gallium-doped germanium crystal which acted like a p-type (excess holes) semiconductor (electron acceptor)
4. it contained a heavy metal bismuth surrounding the semiconducting crystal
5. tin was used to solder elements of valve in place.

6.The vacuum creates an environment where radioactive or energetic particles can travel without interacting with and being blocked by oxygen and gas molecules between the electrodes

7.I think that any good p-type semiconductor could be used in the place of gallium-doped germanium. Standard Boron-doped silicon may work just as well.

8.Polonium (Po-210) emits alpha particles which interacted with Beryllium creating fast neutrons.

9.A mediator may have been used to slow and create thermal neutrons

10.Bismuth Bi-209 can capture a neutron and then go through beta decay (electron emission) and transmute into more Polonium (Po-210).

11.The tuned HF electric signal at phononic resonance may have made the beta-capture by the semi-conductor or the alpha-capture by the bismuth more efficient.

12.p-type semiconductor captures and conducts electrons to transformers and then to the load.

[davedan]

A possible idea to recreate the Moray Device and test this idea of "Speed of Electronic-Phononic coupling/Quantum Transition" is to take a signal generator and apply a signal across a solid-state promethium-147 or Tritium beta-battery.

1. You likely may not need the antenna and ground. All you may need is a signal generator.
2. a promethium -147 beta-battery like was used in pacemakers.
3. joule ringer circuit to convert and transform the current to high frequency DC to drive the load.

[davedan]

[davedan]

Looking at the schematic:

1. The antenna, ground, and tunned LC tank circuit seems to be supplying an RF signal across the Moray valve. I think it is possible this could serve to tune the p/n band gap allowing more efficent beta capture. I suppose this could be replaced by a signal generator.

2. The Moray valve seems to be a beta-voltaic cell. Polonium was known to be in the cold cathode vacuum tube. Polonium-210 emits alpha particles which could interact with other substances like tin (Sn) and Bismuth (Bi) to create beta particles (energetic electrons) whixh could be captured by the germanium semiconductor.

[If beryllium and polonium were present, neutrons would be produced which would convert the bismuth into additional polonium after beta decay. In thay way, the valve would be making more polonium-210 from the bismuth].



3. The vacuum tubes and transformers if you were to replace the tubes with transistors reminds me of a stacked "joule ringer" voltage booster circuit.

[eric]

If you want to change the world in a meaningful way, you can do 1 of 5 things:
1. Establish a constitutional republic (freedom)
2. Restore true religion (religion)
3. Estabish a fair and equitable economic/monetary/credit system (economy)
4. Discover the secret to efficient and clean energy production (energy)
5. Unlock the keys that allow the body to heal itself and reverse the aging process (health)

We have #1. #2 is still hanging by a thread. Christ holds the keys to #5. The system I refer to as SSS covers #3. So, Lets talk about #4. I agree that if Zion is to be "independent" we need to solve #4. However, I think an LDS member has already solved #4 but like Tesla, he is no longer around to show us how he did it.

If you don't know about T. Henry Moray, he was a faithful LDS member, served a mission in Sweden and worked as a scientist and imventor. He died in 1974. During his lifetime, he developed a so-called "free-radiant-energy" device that could generate up to 50 kilowatts of power.

I have never witnessed any other free-energy device produce as much heat as the Moray did. Heat is the "good fruit" by which all energy devices must be judged. The Moray device was demonstrated many times to energize banks of incandescent bulbs as well as heat up 400-Watt flat irons all at the same time. He did have a problem with running powertools because the motors were built to run on 120 Volts/60-Hz AC. The power coming from the Moray Device was also AC but ran at a much higher frequency. He often reported a purple cold-plasma ionization around the windings of the motor of a power tool.

Dr. Moray could never explain exactly how the device worked and consequently was never able to secure a patent. He had many threats against his life and after refusing to turn his technology over to the Communists, his lab assistant destroyed the device with a hammer. Because of war and inflation he never again could afford to build any of the key components. Dr. Moray went to his grave believing that he was the victim of a terrible Communist plot. Consequently, like Tesla, Dr Moray went to his grave with the secrets to his device not wanting them to fall into the hands of the Communists who seemed to take a much bigger intetest in his research than the US did.

Dr. Moray contacted Dr Harvey Fletcher at Bell Laboratories and told him about many key aspects of his Moray Valve and Moray device. It should be no surprise that a few years later Bell Laboratories came out with the transistor.

1. I believe the Moray Device worked
2. I do not believe it worked on the principles ofvfree, radiant, or zero-point energy
3. I believe the Moray Valve was instead a very efficent beta-voltaic cell.
4. I believe Moray's assistant was a fabian globalist spy who destroyed the device after the globalist were able to replicate it.

This picture gives a schematic of an early version of the Moray Device:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/ ... 87689B.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This picture gives a diagram of the Moray Valve:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/ ... 4CF9AB.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hmm..... Dr. Harvey Fletcher was LDS. They named a BYU-P science building after him.

[BroJones]

Looking at the schematic:

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2. The Moray valve seems to be a beta-voltaic cell. Polonium was known to be in the cold cathode vacuum tube. Polonium-210 emits alpha particles which could interact with other substances like tin (Sn) and Bismuth (Bi) to create beta particles (energetic electrons) whixh could be captured by the germanium semiconductor.

[If beryllium and polonium were present, neutrons would be produced which would convert the bismuth into additional polonium after beta decay. In thay way, the valve would be making more polonium-210 from the bismuth].



3. The vacuum tubes and transformers if you were to replace the tubes with transistors reminds me of a stacked "joule ringer" voltage booster circuit.

I've studied the Moray device some also - lots of fun. Are you sure Polonium Po was present? Are you guessing radioactivity is the source of energy?

Note: BYU's Eyring Science Center where I had my office for many years was named after Carl Eyring (not Henry).

[BroJones]

DaveDan wrote:

If you want to change the world in a meaningful way, you can do 1 of 5 things:
1. Establish a constitutional republic (freedom)
2. Restore true religion (religion)
3. Estabish a fair and equitable economic/monetary/credit system (economy)
4. Discover the secret to efficient and clean energy production (energy)
5. Unlock the keys that allow the body to heal itself and reverse the aging process (health)

We have #1. #2 is still hanging by a thread.

Are you saying that "true religion" is "still hanging by a thread"? lol?

[bobhenstra]

I remember John Moray telling my friend Steve and I, that his father discovered a silver dollar worked fine as an antenna. If your correct, the antenna actually meant very little We saw a valve that had been hit with a hammer but couldn't see much inside the valve other than very fine wires that seemed to me to be cooper, what looked like tin foil, but may have been silver foil, insulating material that seemed to be in layers toward the center, and several mostly black wires protruding from the undamaged end of the valve.

The idea that radioactivity may have been the power source is interesting, which would destroy most of the suggested power source that John suggested to us, as cosmic rays. But Dave, what is the half life of your suggested radioactivity source?

John did relate that it took his father quite a while to make a new valve, and each valve was expensive, suggesting to me that Thomas was simply experimenting with different valve configurations. I do remember that John often referred to the valves as condensers.

My friend Steve was very adept with electronics, he's now a PhD and teaching or retired at BYU. When I finally found him he only answered one facebook inquiry with a simple "how are you?" I'm no longer on facebook, got tired of all the ads I was receiving when I posted there.

Bob

[davedan]

Yes, I am guessing along with others on the internet that nuclear is the source. It is just a guess that the Moray Valve possibly contained on alpha emitter (uranium, radium, thorium, polonium, mixture) and may have operated like a betavoltaic cell.

Reasons for betavoltaic:
1. the original device with 1 valve started out as a radio without batteries. So, I don't think the later device was resonant with the universe, or zero-point energy, or cosmic rays, or radiant field. The device was resonant to the HF/VHF spectrum.

2. Dr. Moray wrote papers about transmuting heavy elements via neutron.

3. The moray valve contained several metal sulfide pellets in contact with the germanium. Iron Sulfide is a semiconductor with a low bandgap. Molybdenum Sulfide is an exciting graphene-like semiconductor with a variable bandgap. The Ferrous Sulfide(n-type)-Germanium (p-type)-Molybdenum Sulfide (n-type) pellets could have formed some kind of the first npn semiconductor.

4. Various comments about the Bismuth suggest it donated electrons. Bismuth is a well known beta emitter (electrons) after Neutron exposure.

[davedan]

half-life of polonium-210 is 138.4 days.

however, with Bismuth-209 present, the valve could be producing more Polonium-210.

What I'm looking for is a source of neutrons. The insulation is an interesting detail. Fast neutrons would need a moderator to be slowed so that Bismuth-209 would capture them.

The silver foil if still shiny was probably aluminum foil. I suppose silver would have tarnished. Polonium-210 or any other alpha emitter would cause aluminum foil or lithium or beryllium to produce neutrons.

[davedan]

Also, we have to remember that there was some secret ingredient in the moray valve that made it super expensive such that after the device was destroyed, and after WW2, Dr. Moray could no longer afford or access


the placement of the pellets in the corner of the valve is interesting if the wall of the valve was coated with or had the foil affixed which emitted neutrons. The corner position vs central may experience a higher neutron flux.

[bobhenstra]

Hmm, All I can say is the foil had a color more like silver, the very thin wires may not have been copper, because they too were not corroded, perhaps gold?

The insulation material looked very much like very thick butcher paper, it didn't seem to be in layers, to me it simply looked like a single layer of heavy paper looking at it from the damaged top of the valve, but it may have been concealing the fine wires inside a folded sheet that would have been more obvious on the bottom of the valve. I hope I'm clear on that explanation. Top and bottom as I describe here, is simply the way I was holding the valve and and assuming the top was the part damaged.

The heavy hammer blow was on the outside edge of the top of the valve extending down about an inch and a half, and extending to within about 1/2 in of the center of the valve. The several wires extending from the bottom of the valve suggested to me there were several parts inside the valve that served the same purpose, they were in a staggered line from very close to the center to just inside the outside layer of insulating material.

I could not tell if there was anything in the center of the valve. I suspected when John realized my friend Steve knew what he was talking about, he seemed to become more coy about his explanations, just my observation at the time.

Bob

[davedan]

Bob,

Wow, you actually saw a damaged moray valve. Very cool. Butcher-like paper inside this vaccum cold cathode tube sounds odd. I would expect to see butcher paper and wire and foil inside one of the transformers. Here are my questions:

1. Does the Fig. 8 drawing above match what you saw?
2. Did the valve you saw have this half-spherical shape?
3. Was the valve shell/enclosure made completely of metal?
4. Did you notice many wires or pins coming out of the valve? How many?
5. What were the position of pins (bottom?) and wires (side?)?

[bobhenstra]

Bob,

Wow, you actually saw a damaged moray valve. Very cool. Butcher-like paper inside this vaccum cold cathode tube sounds odd. I would expect to see butcher paper and wire and foil inside one of the transformers. Here are my question

We saw and handled several valves, only one that we were shown was damaged.

1. Does the Fig. 8 drawing above match what you saw?

Except for the foil, the insulation material and the very small wires we could see nothing else inside

2. Did the valve you saw have this half-spherical shape?

It was shaped like a a larger taller coke can, exactly 3 inches across the top

3. Was the valve shell/enclosure made completely of metal?

The damaged valve we handled did not have a metal cover, the outside was made out of the same material I described as looking like butcher paper

4. Did you notice many wires or pins coming out of the valve? How many?

I saw no pins, 5 black insulated wires, two white insulated wires, all coming out at the bottom

5. What were the position of pins (bottom?) and wires (side?)?

I saw no bulges or anything protruding from the side of the valve

Again, my friend Steve had pretty good knowledge of anything electronic, John Moray may have recognized that fact and was careful not to tell us to much!

[bobhenstra]

Dave, I suspect that we're talking about two different parts of the Moray device. Your speaking of the energy creation part, and I'm speaking of a condenser that was one of many that we saw, that were used to store the energy from the device. My notes of the experience indicate that John called what he showed us "the condensers". He did talk about the energy device, but said little more than it was controlled by a crystal that had been destroyed by the lab assistant. And his father had not been able to replace the crystal.

John said his father's energy device first charged one condenser which in turn charged two condensers, then four, then eight, which in turn was stepped up by a transformer. Other than mentioning the crystal, John told us nothing more about the energy device except that he thought is was powered by cosmic rays. thus the long antennae!

I suspect your correct about the device being powered by radiation. But Dave, I see a problem with your ideas about it. I suspect that all the material for a device as you describe it, was available in his day, There is nothing you mentioned that he would not have been able to obtain!

Bob

[davedan]

Yes, paper and foil sounds exactly like a capacitor or "condenser".

What I am most intetested in is the Moray Valve itself.

Yes, it is difficult to get radioactive substances today.

Common Raduoactive sources:
1. Smoke detectors. (Americium)
2. Older lightning rods. (Americium or Radium)
3. Florescent Lamp Igniters (Promethium)

Promethium is a beta emitter (energetic electron) instead of an alpha emitter.

Other things can be made radioactive my neutron bombardment like Thorium and Bismuth.

Neurons can be made using an alpha source (Americium, Polonium, Uranium, Radium) and then a small atomic element like lithium, boron, beryllium, aluminum.

You could also maybe use a Formsworth Fusor as a neutron source.

[bobhenstra]

I know the medical profession deals in a radioactive element or isotope with nuclear medicine, the most common is
technetium-99, but how to obtain it??? And I don't know if it's an alpha or beta emitter, or if that fact makes a difference in what you seek. I have at the bottom of my notes a scribbled "wafers" I'll tell you, I had very poor handwriting in those days. But I would not have scribbled that word unless John had talked about "wafers." Perhaps wafers of a radioactive isotope and aluminum???

Bob

[davedan]

Another Possibility:

1. It was a Cold Cathode Field Emmision Vacuum Tube. Electrons liberated from the Cathode by the high vacuum and application of high voltage.
2. It used germanium and iron sulfide as one of the earliest uses of solid-state semiconductors.
3. It had Molybdenum Sulfide in it which material science is calling the "new graphene" and the possible basis for next generation semiconductors.



Could the Moray Valve have been a Field Emission Tube? New electron microscopes and x-ray tubes use cold cathodes like the Moray Valve.

[bobhenstra]

It would seem to me that any physics professor could obtain radioactive isotopes for research! Steve???

[davedan]

the problem in reproducing the Moray valve is not just the possible presence of an alpha emmiter. I can get Americium from a smoke detector.

However, the cold-cathode tube had a very high vacuum. Making vacuum tubes like this require excellent glass-working skills and a very expensive vacuum pumps.

It was great when I was doing my Masters at BYU. the Chem Department had a glass blower that would visit several times a week.

[bobhenstra]

John insisted that his dad was solidly into a solid state device. He insisted there were no vacuum tubes involved!

[Teancum]

This is an interesting topic for me so I hope you don't mind me jumping in here also. I have been researching and experimenting with various alternative energy technologies and have come to appreciate the unspeakable gift of the Holy Ghost that is given to faithful members who reverence the source of all truth. There have been many members who have been thusly blessed.

In some of my studying, I came across this device which reminded me of the moray device:
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In there it states:

A parametric amplifier is implemented as a mixer. The mixer's gain shows up in the output as amplifier gain. The input weak signal is mixed with a strong local oscillator signal, and the resultant strong output is used in the ensuing receiver stages.

Some parts that I find relevant to the Moray device are this:

When h \geq 2b, the system enters parametric resonance and the amplitude begins to grow exponentially, even in the absence of a driving force E(t).
[edit] Advantages

1:It is highly sensitive

2:low noise level amplifier for ultra high frequency and microwave radio signal

3:The unique capability to operate as a wireless powered amplifier that doesn't require internal power source[11]

So, from my limited perspective, when Thomas started his 'oscillator' and tuned it to operation, he tapped a RF signal with his 'crystal' and used it to 'seed' his mixer/amplifier joule ringers.
just a random mixed up thought I hope doesn't distract from your sound forensics.