Vets To Be Disarmed?

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Vets to disarm?

Vets Receiving Letters Telling Them to Disarm

The Disarming of Our Vets! Veterans Receive Letters from Dept. of Vet. Affairs Prohibiting Possession of Firearms or Ammunition.
Posted by Admin
February 21, 2013

How would you feel if you received a letter from the U.S. Government informing you that because of a physical or mental condition that the government says you have it is proposing to rule that you are incompetent to handle your own financial affairs? Suppose that letter also stated that the government is going to appoint a stranger to handle your affairs for you at your expense? That would certainly be scary enough but it gets worse.
What if that letter also stated: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”?
That makes is sound like something right from a documentary on a tyrannical dictatorship somewhere in the world. Yet, as I write this I have a copy of such a letter right in front of me. It is being sent by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of America’s heroes. In my capacity as Executive Director of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) I have been contacted by some of these veterans and the stories I am getting are appalling.
The letter provides no specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by someone in the VA. In every state in the United States no one can be declared incompetent to administer their own affairs without due process of law and that usually requires a judicial hearing with evidence being offered to prove to a judge that the person is indeed incompetent. This is a requirement of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that states that no person shall “… be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law…”.
Obviously, the Department of Veterans Affairs can’t be bothered by such impediments as the Constitution, particularly since they are clearly pushing to fulfill one of Obama’s main goals, the disarming of the American people. Janet Napolitano has already warned law enforcement that some of the most dangerous among us are America’s heroes, our veterans, and now according to this letter from the VA they can be prohibited from buying or even possessing a firearm because of a physical or mental disability.
Think about it, the men and women who have laid their lives on the line to defend us and our Constitution are now having their own Constitutional rights denied. There are no clear criteria for the VA to declare a veteran incompetent. It can be the loss of a limb in combat, a head injury, a diagnosis of PTSD, or even a soldier just telling someone at the VA that he or she is depressed over the loss of a buddy in combat. In none of these situations has the person been found to be a danger to themselves or others. If that was the case than all of the Americans who have suffered from PTSD following the loss of a loved one or from being in a car accident would also have to be disqualified from owning firearms. It would also mean that everyone who has ever been depressed for any reason should be disarmed. In fact, many of the veterans being deprived of their rights have no idea why it is happening.
The answer seems to be it is simply because they are veterans. At the USJF we intend to find the truth by filing a Freedom of Information Act request to the Department of Veterans Affairs to force them to disclose the criteria they are using to place veterans on the background check list that keeps them from exercising their Second Amendment rights. Then we will take whatever legal steps are necessary to protect our American warriors.
The reality is that Obama will not get all of the gun control measures he wants through Congress, and they wouldn’t be enough for him anyway. He wants a totally disarmed America so there will be no resistance to his plans to rob us of our nation. That means we have to ask who will be next. If you are receiving a Social Security check will you get one of these letters? Will the government declare that you are incompetent because of your age and therefore banned from firearm ownership. It certainly fits in with the philosophy and plans of the Obama administration. It is also certain that our military veterans don’t deserve this and neither do any other Americans.

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Will County Sheriff's defend vets rights?
Will vets ban together and say enough is enough?
Will we all hand in our guns freely and say "oh well, that's the breaks?"

Gun confiscation is coming at us from all sides. Ask ourselves, What now? How will it end? What will be the results if we give in?

Or is this one big hoax?

Any insight out there?

[Tribunal]

A law enforcement officer that I supervise (who also happens to be a very close friend) is a Marine who fought in the Bush and Obama wars. This officer is a weapons instructor / armorer in my department and a conceal carry instructor on his own time. Because of his experiences in those wars he has PTSD and qualifies for disability. The VA has informed this officer that he can either take advantage of his VA benefits and not possess a pistol or rifle, or he can use his pistol and rifle (and do his job as a cop!) and not receive any VA benefits. What a crazy world we live in!

[firefly]

This won't stop with Vets. It may not be at first banning guns, but banning you. When you go to buy a gun all you get from the sales clerk is a statement that you were not approved when they called to get approval.

[Benjamin_LK]

This won't stop with Vets. It may not be at first banning guns, but banning you. When you go to buy a gun all you get from the sales clerk is a statement that you were not approved when they called to get approval.

Consider people in the general population who are considered mentally unfit, which can vary widely. This would even include people like myself, classified as medically unfit to serve a proselyting mission, but you could have a conversation in a restaurant with me, and I guarantee you would have a hard time believing what I just said if I told you about the medical classifications about me after that conversation.

[jcricket6048]

A law enforcement officer that I supervise (who also happens to be a very close friend) is a Marine who fought in the Bush and Obama wars. This officer is a weapons instructor / armorer in my department and a conceal carry instructor on his own time. Because of his experiences in those wars he has PTSD and qualifies for disability. The VA has informed this officer that he can either take advantage of his VA benefits and not possess a pistol or rifle, or he can use his pistol and rifle (and do his job as a cop!) and not receive any VA benefits. What a crazy world we live in!

so if a person is disabled has to have his or her guns taken from them because they are disabled? That is a big croc idea because I am disabled but I am not a Vet to me this is stupid.

[Tribunal]

A law enforcement officer that I supervise (who also happens to be a very close friend) is a Marine who fought in the Bush and Obama wars. This officer is a weapons instructor / armorer in my department and a conceal carry instructor on his own time. Because of his experiences in those wars he has PTSD and qualifies for disability. The VA has informed this officer that he can either take advantage of his VA benefits and not possess a pistol or rifle, or he can use his pistol and rifle (and do his job as a cop!) and not receive any VA benefits. What a crazy world we live in!

so if a person is disabled has to have his or her guns taken from them because they are disabled? That is a big croc idea because I am disabled but I am not a Vet to me this is stupid.

It isn't just his guns, its his profession. He's a cop! The VA told this veteran he can either receive the benefits or continue to own his weapons.

[freedomforall]

A law enforcement officer that I supervise (who also happens to be a very close friend) is a Marine who fought in the Bush and Obama wars. This officer is a weapons instructor / armorer in my department and a conceal carry instructor on his own time. Because of his experiences in those wars he has PTSD and qualifies for disability. The VA has informed this officer that he can either take advantage of his VA benefits and not possess a pistol or rifle, or he can use his pistol and rifle (and do his job as a cop!) and not receive any VA benefits. What a crazy world we live in!

so if a person is disabled has to have his or her guns taken from them because they are disabled? That is a big croc idea because I am disabled but I am not a Vet to me this is stupid.

Good has now become bad, and bad good. Criminals are more and more looked upon as good guys and people who go to church and are good decent people ...are now looked upon as terrorists, people to be feared, watched and subdued. Our guns have to be taken away so the criminals can have more reign. Punishment for crime has become so lax that people are not afraid to kill whomever they wish, and with God out of the picture for most of them, ...good people with guns are a threat to their activities...so the government says "let's take away the guns from law abide-rs so we can rule over them without resistance." You notice that the government isn't after the guns of crooks wielding them. It's only the law abiding citizens that have to be dealt with! This is a huge crock. Criminals will always have guns of mass destruction, and will continue to use them without fear of government or local law enforcement.

If 1776 commences again I hope there are enough people with backbone to defend what's left of this country. Don't worry about being disabled. One's voice for freedom can still be heard from the front door.

.02 worth

[AGStacker]

Taking away their disability benefits is exactly what I thought they'd do. A buddy of mine receives a 1k a month from the VA for serving in Bush/Obama wars. Some of the guys in his sniper team he belonged to went all out and receive 2.5k a month! My buddy has some crazy stories to tell and I know he has to deal with experiencing some crazy stuff but other than that he is a perfectly capable human being.

These guys will either lie to keep their benefits or flat out say no way they're giving up their guns. So far my buddy hasn't mentioned if he has received a letter or not.

[Fairminded]

I would say it's a mistake for the LDGs to be going after the veterans like this. It forces all the former soldiers who could be most dangerous to them to face a choice: stay dependent on government, or keep your freedoms. Even those who stay dependent will remember that the country they suffered so much horror for, who they risked their lives for, turned around and labeled them crazy and took away their guns.

In any trouble that does come those veterans will be almost universally against them, they've ensured that.

[jcricket6048]

A law enforcement officer that I supervise (who also happens to be a very close friend) is a Marine who fought in the Bush and Obama wars. This officer is a weapons instructor / armorer in my department and a conceal carry instructor on his own time. Because of his experiences in those wars he has PTSD and qualifies for disability. The VA has informed this officer that he can either take advantage of his VA benefits and not possess a pistol or rifle, or he can use his pistol and rifle (and do his job as a cop!) and not receive any VA benefits. What a crazy world we live in!

so if a person is disabled has to have his or her guns taken from them because they are disabled? That is a big croc idea because I am disabled but I am not a Vet to me this is stupid.

It isn't just his guns, its his profession. He's a cop! The VA told this veteran he can either receive the benefits or continue to own his weapons.

for a Vet to serve his country this is a lousy way of showing respect to our Vets. I have heard stories of Vets from World War 2 coming home and yet they kept their guns and they had no problem. This whole thing is just a sham to our Vets.