Still shop at Walmart?
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Fiannan
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Still shop at Walmart?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/21/w ... o-cookies/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I would urge a quick review of the story and the comments.
I would urge a quick review of the story and the comments.
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ebenezerarise
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What's your point?Fiannan wrote:http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/21/w ... o-cookies/
I would urge a quick review of the story and the comments.
Walmart caught an employee stealing and she admitted to 8 years of theft while on the job. What did you expect them to do?
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buffalo_girl
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In contrast, WHAT ever happened to the WalMart manager who 'recycled' donated Christmas toys from the Toys-for-Tots box stationed at one of the Exit doors? I guess maybe it's alright for WalMart managers to 'steal' from well-intentioned customers stupid enough to leave things in a charity box.
That seems like a more serious lapse of ethics than eating cookies and chewing gum.
If the photo of the 67-year old thief is current, it seems to me WalMart could use it in an AD showing the benefits of their junk food in keeping the elderly fit while working a hard labor shift on a concrete floor. Give her a bonus and a few extra bucks per hour!
That seems like a more serious lapse of ethics than eating cookies and chewing gum.
If the photo of the 67-year old thief is current, it seems to me WalMart could use it in an AD showing the benefits of their junk food in keeping the elderly fit while working a hard labor shift on a concrete floor. Give her a bonus and a few extra bucks per hour!
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heartsongs
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I hope I don't offend anyone, as that is not my purpose, and would not want to upset someone, but, I can't stand Wal-Mart. I will not and do not shop there. Ick!!!
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If anyone wants a real eye-opener to what Wal Mart is all about and has become after Sam Walton passed away and gave the business to his sons, this DVD will do it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart:_ ... _Low_Price" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart:_ ... _Low_Price" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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heartsongs
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I found it on You Tube. Thanks for sharing and I am going to watch it.Col. Flagg wrote:If anyone wants a real eye-opener to what Wal Mart is all about and has become after Sam Walton passed away and gave the business to his sons, this DVD will do it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart:_ ... _Low_Price" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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ebenezerarise
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Hold on. I'm not a defender of Walmart by any stretch of the imagination. Everyone can see their predatory practices and what they have evolved to over the years. But none of that is the point.
This point is that this employee stole for more than 8 years and the world wants to cut her slack because she makes $11/hr.
Something's wrong when people can't see what's wrong here.
This point is that this employee stole for more than 8 years and the world wants to cut her slack because she makes $11/hr.
Something's wrong when people can't see what's wrong here.
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buffalo_girl
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This point is that this employee stole for more than 8 years and the world wants to cut her slack because she makes $11/hr.
Something's wrong when people can't see what's wrong here.
Global mayhem being what it is...why is it WalMart finds it necessary to press criminal charges against a 'junk food grazer'? Fire her, if you must, but it is a bit much to stomach the corporation's hypocrisy.
I seem to recall Sam Walton took great pride in the fact that each one of his newly situated big box stores took out 100 locally owned and operated businesses. There are three WalMart super stores in the Bismarck/Mandan area! The impact of those three super stores on the small town businesses has been devastating.
We will NOT shop at WalMart, but it is becoming more and more a challenge to find some things in our nearest town. People would rather drive the 60+ miles to shop at WalMart than to support their local hardware and grocery stores.
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I will shop at Walmart, it's the closest store to me, and they have everything an old man needs, including electric shopping carts that take the pain off my poor aching feet. Also, our Walmart store here is an end store, all the products that don't sell well in other regions are sent here and put on sale. I've made some great purchases, saved a lot of money on high end electronics. I haven't seen any stores in my area go out of business, in fact a whole bunch of new stores surround our Walmart
But a lot of my purchases are from internet shopping. I just purchased a four cavity .45 acp 200 grain hollow point bullet mold from Slovenia. It was expensive, shipping and all, but I have it, and it'll be paid for when I cast the 3000th bullet (at .06 cents, using free lead my kids find for me). Amazon calls me by my first name------Cabelas, Midway, several others-- I like shopping this way, it usually gets delivered right to my door. I find it much cheaper than driving, saves gas! Sometimes I have to walk out to the mailbox--a real pain
Bob
But a lot of my purchases are from internet shopping. I just purchased a four cavity .45 acp 200 grain hollow point bullet mold from Slovenia. It was expensive, shipping and all, but I have it, and it'll be paid for when I cast the 3000th bullet (at .06 cents, using free lead my kids find for me). Amazon calls me by my first name------Cabelas, Midway, several others-- I like shopping this way, it usually gets delivered right to my door. I find it much cheaper than driving, saves gas! Sometimes I have to walk out to the mailbox--a real pain
Bob
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It's possible that Walmart no longer has anything to do with that, it could be a zealous prosecutor.buffalo_girl wrote:Global mayhem being what it is...why is it WalMart finds it necessary to press criminal charges against a 'junk food grazer'? Fire her, if you must, but it is a bit much to stomach the corporation's hypocrisy...
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ebenezerarise
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Again, not defending the biggest retailer in the world. But you speak of a corporation as if it were a person, capable of having a conscience. Not the case. That one employee is one of hundreds in that store. If they let her skate, what will the rest of them do?buffalo_girl wrote:Global mayhem being what it is...why is it WalMart finds it necessary to press criminal charges against a 'junk food grazer'? Fire her, if you must, but it is a bit much to stomach the corporation's hypocrisy.
They employed her on good faith for a long time. She knew what the job description was and she knew what was expected for the pay. She had all that time to improve her situation, as well. Maybe it wouldn't be easy, but it surely was possible.
My son works for WalMart. I am grateful he has a job and they work hard to be responsible, from what I can see, with things like employee safety, benefits, incentive programs and such. Not saying they are perfect. But there are worse to work for out there.
Let's not let the burning bitterness for a business override the fact that this woman was a thief that ultimately cost everyone who works or shops at Walmart with her actions. Hate Walmart if you must for whatever reason but don't justify her actions. If she worked in MY small business I'd prosecute her to the fullest extent of the law because wrong is wrong.
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buffalo_girl
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Whose 'bitterness'?
WalMart is what it is. I do not shop at WalMart.
Must she be a made so public an example?
I sincerely hope your son has a long and successful career with WalMart. May he never do anything unseemly when only surveillance cameras are looking.
WalMart is what it is. I do not shop at WalMart.
I have absolutely no problem with WalMart turning the old lady out for being 'a thief'.Fire her, if you must, but it is a bit much to stomach the corporation's hypocrisy.
Must she be a made so public an example?
I sincerely hope your son has a long and successful career with WalMart. May he never do anything unseemly when only surveillance cameras are looking.
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Fiannan wrote:http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/21/w ... o-cookies/
I would urge a quick review of the story and the comments.
Um . . . a FELONY for stealing cookies? Are they DAFT?
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Fiannan
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First, under the law a corporation is a person. And as the excellent documentary "The Corporation" illustrates, a corporation by its very nature is psychopathic. It lacks a sense of guilt, moral accountability and seeks to grow and expand in power, whatever it takes.ebenezerarise wrote:Again, not defending the biggest retailer in the world. But you speak of a corporation as if it were a person, capable of having a conscience. Not the case. That one employee is one of hundreds in that store. If they let her skate, what will the rest of them do?buffalo_girl wrote:Global mayhem being what it is...why is it WalMart finds it necessary to press criminal charges against a 'junk food grazer'? Fire her, if you must, but it is a bit much to stomach the corporation's hypocrisy.
They employed her on good faith for a long time. She knew what the job description was and she knew what was expected for the pay. She had all that time to improve her situation, as well. Maybe it wouldn't be easy, but it surely was possible.
My son works for WalMart. I am grateful he has a job and they work hard to be responsible, from what I can see, with things like employee safety, benefits, incentive programs and such. Not saying they are perfect. But there are worse to work for out there.
Let's not let the burning bitterness for a business override the fact that this woman was a thief that ultimately cost everyone who works or shops at Walmart with her actions. Hate Walmart if you must for whatever reason but don't justify her actions. If she worked in MY small business I'd prosecute her to the fullest extent of the law because wrong is wrong.
Personally, I would rather just fly to China and buy a bunch of items and cut out the Walmart middlemen.
Now as for the lady, couldn't Walmart just fire her? I mean from a Christian standpoint, yeah, yeah I know, a corporation is not supposed to act with a conscience but come on...would Jesus say want her convicted of a felony and possibly thrown into a jail? Even in Islam it is VERY rare that one gets a hand chopped off for theft, especially if under such circumstances.
We live in a nation in which the wealthy and their whores in the US government, I would use the other term but the government people always expect something in return, give special tax breaks to trans-national corporations, banker bailouts and all kinds of other special perks like zoning allowances at the local level. I believe that people are rallying in support of this woman because we also live in a nation in which the rich are getting richer and the poor are being squeezed to the limit. It reminds me of the history of England. When they could not get people to go colonize places like Australia they made laws so harsh that the prisons filled up and then the people were basically told they were going to be exiled to Australia. Problem today is that there is not a place for people to escape to. Sure, you could go to places that have more freedom like Russia but there you have the whole language thing to deal with. If you are not into freedom so much except in economic terms you could move to China but again, language. And the only people who can relocate to other lands are those with good educations -- they don't want uneducated Americans knocking on their doors.
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You ought to read a couple of pages of the comments (at least two).ebenezerarise wrote:What's your point?
Walmart caught an employee stealing and she admitted to 8 years of theft while on the job. What did you expect them to do?
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I would avoid shopping there altogether if I could. I plan to at some point in time. I go to other stores whenever I can.heartsongs wrote:I hope I don't offend anyone, as that is not my purpose, and would not want to upset someone, but, I can't stand Wal-Mart. I will not and do not shop there. Ick!!!
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Fiannan
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Funny but it does make the point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKv6RcXa2UI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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You got the memo, right? We're not a Christian nation anymore. (Where's the Big O smilie?)Fiannan wrote:Now as for the lady, couldn't Walmart just fire her? I mean from a Christian standpoint, yeah, yeah I know, a corporation is not supposed to act with a conscience but come on...would Jesus say want her convicted of a felony and possibly thrown into a jail? Even in Islam it is VERY rare that one gets a hand chopped off for theft, especially if under such circumstances.
This country is full of punishment (except for a few elite, a few wealthy, a few in power), overflowing with vengeance, greed, and lust for power. I don't really think we have far to go before we fit these scriptures:
And the Lord said unto Enoch: As I live, even so will I come in the last days, in the days of wickedness and vengeance, to fulfil the oath which I have made unto you concerning the children of Noah
(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 7:60)
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(New Testament | Matthew 24:37)
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
(New Testament | Luke 17:26)
41 But as it was in the days of Noah, so it shall be also at the coming of the Son of Man
(Pearl of Great Price | JS-Matthew 1:41)
Between vengeance and violence, I think we have it pretty well covered.26 And the Lord said: I will destroy man whom I have created, from the face of the earth, both man and beast, and the creeping things, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth Noah that I have created them, and that I have made them; and he hath called upon me; for they have sought his life.
27 And thus Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord; for Noah was a just man, and perfect in his generation; and he walked with God, as did also his three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
28 The earth was corrupt before God, and it was filled with violence.
29 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth.
30 And God said unto Noah: The end of all flesh is come before me, for the earth is filled with violence, and behold I will destroy all flesh from off the earth.
Moses 8
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Fiannan
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Excellent points! Wonder what corporations existed in Noah's day? Yes, scriptures make it quite clear that the days of Noah were like ours and so why believe that they did not have the same technology as today? Why was it emphasized that Noah was pure in blood? GMOs and cross-species gene manipulations commonplace? The Sumerian texts can be interpreted that way.A Random Phrase wrote:You got the memo, right? We're not a Christian nation anymore. (Where's the Big O smilie?)Fiannan wrote:Now as for the lady, couldn't Walmart just fire her? I mean from a Christian standpoint, yeah, yeah I know, a corporation is not supposed to act with a conscience but come on...would Jesus say want her convicted of a felony and possibly thrown into a jail? Even in Islam it is VERY rare that one gets a hand chopped off for theft, especially if under such circumstances.
This country is full of punishment (except for a few elite, a few wealthy, a few in power), overflowing with vengeance, greed, and lust for power. I don't really think we have far to go before we fit these scriptures:
And the Lord said unto Enoch: As I live, even so will I come in the last days, in the days of wickedness and vengeance, to fulfil the oath which I have made unto you concerning the children of Noah
(Pearl of Great Price | Moses 7:60)37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
(New Testament | Matthew 24:37)26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
(New Testament | Luke 17:26)41 But as it was in the days of Noah, so it shall be also at the coming of the Son of Man
(Pearl of Great Price | JS-Matthew 1:41)Between vengeance and violence, I think we have it pretty well covered.26 And the Lord said: I will destroy man whom I have created, from the face of the earth, both man and beast, and the creeping things, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth Noah that I have created them, and that I have made them; and he hath called upon me; for they have sought his life.
27 And thus Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord; for Noah was a just man, and perfect in his generation; and he walked with God, as did also his three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
28 The earth was corrupt before God, and it was filled with violence.
29 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its way upon the earth.
30 And God said unto Noah: The end of all flesh is come before me, for the earth is filled with violence, and behold I will destroy all flesh from off the earth.
Moses 8
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You know, I firmly believe that they were as advanced as we are, technologically. Probably moreso. I mean, their inventors lived for hundreds and hundreds of years. They probably had a bit more accurate understanding of how old the earth was, too.Fiannan wrote:Excellent points! Wonder what corporations existed in Noah's day? Yes, scriptures make it quite clear that the days of Noah were like ours and so why believe that they did not have the same technology as today? Why was it emphasized that Noah was pure in blood? GMOs and cross-species gene manipulations commonplace? The Sumerian texts can be interpreted that way.
I expect that they had flying machines, machines equivalent to computers, ipods, washing machines, dishwashers, cars, and trucks. It all got buried deep, deep in the earth when the floods came, apparently. If their wars wiped out much of the food supply, they may have begun to mess with the genes of plants. We really know extremely little about them. Pretty much nothing about their lifestyles and inventions.
f you read the scriptures, "in the process of time" the people in the city of Enoch were taken up. I have seriously wondered if that meant they went up in space shuttles. After all, the people building the tower of Babel seemed to think they could reach them (heaven, where the people went). It makes me think they were in visual range, at least, even if they misjudged the distance.
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heartsongs
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So, I watched the video suggested earlier in the stream. It wass thought provoking indeed, and further solidifies why I do not shop at Wal-Mart. They are getting ready to build a new Wal-Mart in the area where I live, and I am not to excited about it. The first time they came to build in my neighborhood, the council and people said NO. Now, well now they have changed their minds I guess, because here comes Wal-Mart! I am also sure that where they are building was part of their stratagem and hopes of putting the near-by businesses...."out of business." Next door to where they will be located is a Home Depot, Super Target, Meijer, Kroger, and a couple of other places. But, with Wal-Mart coming, I'm sure the surrounding businesses ,and the jobs they provide, won't be there for much longer no thanks to the "Giant China Wal-Mart." I try to buy as many things as I can made in America, and usually go to Super Target for the rest. I go to Whole Foods and my local Dairy Farmer for the food my family and I need.
Just what we need....another stupid Wal-Mart, and in the near future, fewer jobs than before they came, and a bunch of empty warehouse type buildings where a business once stood, soon to be targets for the heathens to vandalize.
Just what we need....another stupid Wal-Mart, and in the near future, fewer jobs than before they came, and a bunch of empty warehouse type buildings where a business once stood, soon to be targets for the heathens to vandalize.
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ebenezerarise
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A felony for 8 years of theft. Nothing daft about that.A Random Phrase wrote:Fiannan wrote:http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/02/21/w ... o-cookies/
I would urge a quick review of the story and the comments.
Um . . . a FELONY for stealing cookies? Are they DAFT?
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ebenezerarise
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Are you telling me that a business should endure 8 years of theft without consequence?Fiannan wrote: Now as for the lady, couldn't Walmart just fire her? I mean from a Christian standpoint, yeah, yeah I know, a corporation is not supposed to act with a conscience but come on...would Jesus say want her convicted of a felony and possibly thrown into a jail? Even in Islam it is VERY rare that one gets a hand chopped off for theft, especially if under such circumstances.
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heartsongs
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I certainly understand if a person shops at Wal-Mart. I do not condemn anyone who does. We have to do what we all have to do. What I do may not be what another person should do, and some folks may only have access to one place of shopping, and heck, if that's all there is...looks like that is where he/she is going (lol). I truly hope I did not offend you, for that surely was not my intention. I am lucky, I have many options available to me in the area where I live. Brother/Sister I wish you well, and that the Lord will bless you with all you need. :ymhug:A Random Phrase wrote:I would avoid shopping there altogether if I could. I plan to at some point in time. I go to other stores whenever I can.heartsongs wrote:I hope I don't offend anyone, as that is not my purpose, and would not want to upset someone, but, I can't stand Wal-Mart. I will not and do not shop there. Ick!!!
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+1 :ymapplause:heartsongs wrote:I hope I don't offend anyone, as that is not my purpose, and would not want to upset someone, but, I can't stand Wal-Mart. I will not and do not shop there. Ick!!!
