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I found this article while browsing please tell me what are your thoughts and comments about it http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/8- ... offee.html

Skin Cancer Prevention
Research from the American Association for Cancer Research has connected coffee with the prevention of basal cell carcinoma, the most common cancer in the world. A study conducted at Harvard Medical School showed that women who drank three or more cups per day had a 20% lower chance of developing skin cancer. Men had a reduced risk of 9%.

Prostate Cancer Prevention
A study published in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute found that drinking just 1 to 3 cups of coffee per day could lower the risk of prostate cancer by as much as 30%. Another study, conducted at the Harvard School of Public Health found that drinking six cups of coffee per day could lower the risk of a dangerous type of prostate cancer by 60% and other forms by 20%.

Liver Protection
Coffee consumption has been known to help protect the liver from cirrhosis and related forms of cancer. According to a professor at the Harvard School for Public Health, the evidence for cancer prevention in the liver is very promising and consistent from study to study.

Type 2 Diabetes
Minerals like magnesium and chromium, found in coffee, help the body use insulin, which helps regulate blood sugar levels effectively. According to a review of studies published in Archives of Internal Medicine, coffee consumption can help lower the risk of type two diabetes. The 18 studies involved 450,000 people. For each additional cup of coffee consumed per day, the risk was lowered by 7%. Another study involving 193,000 people showed a reduction of risk of 35% in people drinking 6 or 7 cups of coffee per day.

Alzheimer's Disease
Drinking coffee is often associated with a lower risk of dementia and Alzheimer's disease. A study conducted in Finland and Sweden of 1,400 people over 20 years found that those who drank 3 to 5 cups per day were 65% less likely to develop Alzheimer's disease. A lab study involving mice found that an unknown substance in coffee interacted closely with caffeine to boost GCSF, a growth factor known to ward off Alzheimer's disease.

Parkinson's Disease
A review of studies published in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease looked at 26 studies involving 125,000 people. The conclusion found that drinking two or three cups of coffee per day could lower the risk of Parkinson's disease by 25%. It also suggested that drinking a few cups of coffee per day had "optimal effects" on Parkinson's patients.

Energy Booster
The caffeine in coffee can offer a strong, temporary boost in a person's energy level and alertness. However, increased consumption of caffeinated beverages can alter a person's tolerance to caffeine, meaning more coffee is needed to produce the same boost in energy. Too much caffeine can be a risk to one's health and coffee taken for energy should be taken in moderation.

Depression Treatment
Studies have found that women who drink at least two cups of coffee per day may be less likely to develop severe depression than those that drink coffee moderately or not at all. A study at the Harvard Medical School spanning one decade and involving 2,600 women showed that woman who drank four or more cups per day had a 20% lower risk of developing depression.

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Not ALL bad. But then, most things aren't.

A few things I keep in mind:
--studies? How well? Etc.
--it's an all-together thing. What's the down side, now?
--there might be more, in the future.

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Hard drugs, wrongful use of prescription drugs, alcohol, coffee, tea, and tobacco products destroy your physical, mental, and spiritual well-being. Any form of alcohol, including beer, is harmful to your spirit and your body. Tobacco can enslave you, weaken your lungs, and shorten your life. - President Thomas S. Monson

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1. Coffee and Tea do contain some antioxidants and minerals

2. If you visit an ORAC database (oxygen radical absoption capacity) you will see that tea and coffee are really rather poor in terms of their quantity of antioxidants vs. just eating a piece of fresh fruit or a veggy.

3. Coffee is the #1 source of antioxidant consumed by Americans.

4. fMRI studies of regular coffee drinkers show that drinking coffee in the morning only serves to return brain activity to its normal level of activity.

What this means is that the American diet is really very poor. Most Americans wake up to a breakfast of a cup pf coffee, maybe a donut, and a cigarette. Caffeine also serves to suppress appetite decreasing consumption of other nutrients. Additionally, the whole concept of regularly administering a chemical to "feel better" in the absence of disease is a gateway to using any drug or chemical for recreation.

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It is a by product of the gifts God has given us, and like the rest of them, it should be used in the way God has advised. When we choose not to follow those covenant guidelines, it is "bad". As a substance it is like so many others. Chemotherapy is poison. Is poison bad? Use it wisely, or as God has counseled and then, no, it isn't bad.

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I don't know if it is really bad or not, but, we have been instructed not to drink it by our leadership for years, and years and years. So, I do what Joseph Smith said....."when the Lord commands, just do it!"

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the lord specifically didnt command it

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JohnnyL wrote:Not ALL bad. But then, most things aren't.

A few things I keep in mind:
--studies? How well? Etc.
--it's an all-together thing. What's the down side, now?
--there might be more, in the future.

Coffee and tea have been around for a very long time. I think if there was something major it would have surfaced at this point.

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Looking at the big picture, active mormon's have a higher than average life expectancy. And this is in spite of the fact that (as some here love to point out) that we tend to focus on only half of the word of wisdom. So there must be something right with our health code and it would be even better if we'd actually live the whole thing.

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Well... do you think when Jesus comes again he's going to have a cup of coffee 1-3 times a day? In my opinion, I will trust the word of wisdom before any "studies" conducted by science. Although, Brigham Young said to those chewing tobacco, "I do not charge you with sin. You have the ‘Word of Wisdom.’ Read it.”

I cannot judge anyone who does drink it. I know my diet is not perfect.

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tobacco i can see being bad, i think the day coffee causes cancer i will chose to stay away, it seems 1 cup of coffee a day could not hurt

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sadie_Mormon wrote:
JohnnyL wrote:Not ALL bad. But then, most things aren't.

A few things I keep in mind:
--studies? How well? Etc.
--it's an all-together thing. What's the down side, now?
--there might be more, in the future.
Coffee and tea have been around for a very long time. I think if there was something major it would have surfaced at this point.
Oh, I believe there's still more (like with tobacco and cigarettes--been around plenty long, but plenty of study left to do, we have no clue what lots of the ingredients do).
In addition, it's what people do to it, before the end user uses it--
What if a killer pathogen were released through coffee, tobacco, tea, and beer? How much of the USA population would it wipe out, and how quickly? Can you think of anything better to spread it, if you wanted to spread it? (Ok, maybe McD's food... ;0 )
Who's to know that won't happen?

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No, coffee is really good! But I don't drink it anymore. Loved the stuff, I missed drinking it for a time, but got over it. What I've discovered is caffeine deadens my reception of the Spirit when I'm studying the scripture. The Holy Ghost is there, I simply can't sense that wonderful feeling after I've had a caffeinated drink.

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AussieOi wrote:the lord specifically didnt command it
Since I can't delete my post, or either I just don't know how. I was going to say something, but I erased it, and I have changed my mind after all.
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bobhenstra wrote:No, coffee is really good! But I don't drink it anymore. Loved the stuff, I missed drinking it for a time, but got over it. What I've discovered is caffeine deadens my reception of the Spirit when I'm studying the scripture. The Holy Ghost is there, I simply can't sense that wonderful feeling after I've had a caffeinated drink.

Bob
Bob, I have 99% sworn off energy drinks. I used to drink tons of soda pop, especially Mountain Dew. But I have very specifically heard the Spirit tell me not to any more. When I listen, I feel Him much more strongly. So it really depends on how much of a relationship we truly want with the Savior and that means something different to everyone. Nowadays I pretty much just drink water. Just my two cents.

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I once had a temple recommend interview with my bishop in his home, sitting on the table right in front of me was a coffee pot and a can of decaffeinated coffee, Maxwell House if I remember correctly. I didn't question it, but because the revelation specifically speaks of "hot drinks" I did wonder! I learned later that he and his wife enjoyed iced decaf coffee, not a hot drink, so there you go! I had another Bishop who wouldn't allow hot chocolate on camping trips, go figure-----

I enjoy colas, have a years supply of diet colas, primarily Walmart brand now, in my opinion, the best tasting diet cola out there. I'm always being told "Bob, that stuff will kill ya!" I'm here to declare "horse apples" I've been drinking colas my whole life and I ain't dead yet, in fact; I've lived 7 years past the average age of death for men in my family. Flu shots haven't killed me, water hasn't killed me, nothing has killed me! I don't scare easy, perhaps that's my problem----- :-?

I wish some of you folks knew what the heck you were talking about :)

Bob

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Other than causing your ears to buzz, heart to race, toes to curl, breath to stink, emotions to vacillate and money dwindle from one's wallet...they say it's pretty good.

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IWantToBelieve wrote:tobacco i can see being bad, i think the day coffee causes cancer i will chose to stay away, it seems 1 cup of coffee a day could not hurt
Well, there you go then. To each their own. :ymcowboy:

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Ground up coffee is good for helping plants grow in your garden. Nicotine in solution is a strong pesticide. Use a little beer to kill your slugs that are eating the garden.

Again, just about anything out there has many uses, some good, some bad, but you can pick the good ones.

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davedan wrote:1. Coffee and Tea do contain some antioxidants and minerals

2. If you visit an ORAC database (oxygen radical absoption capacity) you will see that tea and coffee are really rather poor in terms of their quantity of antioxidants vs. just eating a piece of fresh fruit or a veggy.

3. Coffee is the #1 source of antioxidant consumed by Americans.

4. fMRI studies of regular coffee drinkers show that drinking coffee in the morning only serves to return brain activity to its normal level of activity.

What this means is that the American diet is really very poor. Most Americans wake up to a breakfast of a cup pf coffee, maybe a donut, and a cigarette. Caffeine also serves to suppress appetite decreasing consumption of other nutrients. Additionally, the whole concept of regularly administering a chemical to "feel better" in the absence of disease is a gateway to using any drug or chemical for recreation.
Interesting that you mention this, I have actually found that I could get plenty of antioxidants from raisins and pomegranates, to name a few, and a lot of bang for the amount I eat too!

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I am always skeptical when I only hear one side of any story. Must be the conspiracy theorist in me.

"Why Coffee is Bad for you. Some Reasons:
1. Heart disease. Some prospective cohort studies have found that coffee consumption is associated with significantly increased risk of cardiovascular disease.
On one hand, diterpenes cafestol and kahweol present in unfiltered coffee and caffeine each appear to increase risk of coronary heart disease. High quality studies have confirmed the cholesterol-raising effect of diterpenes. Also, coffee consumption is associated with an increase of plasma homocysteine, a risk factor for coronary heart disease.

2. Cholesterol. Heavy consumption of boiled coffee elevates blood total and LDL ("bad") cholesterol levels [7]. Unfiltered coffee contains two cholesterol-raising compounds cafestol and kahweol.
3. Blood vessels. Coffee negatively affects the blood vessel tone and function.
4. Heart rhythm disturbances. Coffee can cause rapid or irregular heartbeats (cardiac arrhythmias).
5. Blood pressure. Although coffee drinking is a significant risk factor for hypertension, it produces unfavorable effects on blood pressure and people prone to hypertension may be more susceptible. Recent Italian study found that coffee drinking can increase the risk for development of sustained hypertension in people with elevated blood pressure.
6. Osteoporosis. Coffee intake induces an extra urinary excretion of calcium. coffee consumption increases the risk of osteoporosis, especially in women with a low calcium intake
7. Heartburn. A cup of coffee triggers the heartburn.
8. Sleep. Most are aware of the stimulatory effects of caffeine. High amounts of caffeine taken before going to sleep causes difficulty falling asleep, tendency to be awakened more readily by sudden noises, and a decreased quality of sleep.
9. Dehydration. The caffeine in coffee is a mild diuretic and increases urine excretion.
10. Dependence. according to the FDA, caffeine is still a drug, a central nervous system stimulant, and it produces dependence. Caffeine withdrawal is a real syndrome. You may get a few days of headache and irritability if you choose to quit drinking coffee, however, it is relatively easy to break this habit, and most people are addicted to caffeine."

To me, caffeine creates an illusionary state, like most drugs and stimulants do. Do you know everyone can have their own special cup of coffee every morning? It's called the Spirit. To me, caffeine is an artificial substitute of the Spirit.

It really helped mask my problems when I had severe depression a few years ago, but it never fixes the problem. The Spirit needs our minds to be clear and active, unadulterated from counterfeit stimulants. They take your real power away. There's so much science behind why coffee is actually BAD for you, but you have to do a little digging. Especially since coffee companies are multi-billion dollar corporations, and they pay popular websites to post untrue statements. "What the WHAT?! You mean, if people found out coffee was bad, it would put millions of people out of a job?! That can't happen. People need their jobs...let's have people believing they are drinking something beneficial! Let's pay these popular websites, tv shows, magazines to tell people that coffee is indeed good for you!" And it works. People eat it up...er...drink it up.

Always do your research. People believe that all this packaged processed crud is good for them. Many of them don't realize what truly feeling good is even like. I am amazed at how the American people can get along semi-well with all the abuse they put their bodies through. Bodies need fresh fruits and vegetables. Real fuel. When you give the body food with living enzymes, your body responds by becoming energized and living. Americans are dead in so many ways, well, because all the food they eat is dead.

Going off on tangents.8)

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Quite often studies are misinterpreted. Correlation does not mean causation. For example, the reduced rates of type 2 diabetes associated with coffee consumption could be due to decreased consumption of sodas. Coffee may be displacing worse options. So you could just avoid the worse stuff and do just as well.

Likewise the reduced rates of liver cirrhosis in coffee drinkers could be due to reduced alcohol consumption.

As for the studies showing less depression in coffee drinkers, how do you know if its cause or effect? Maybe you have to be happier in the first place to drink coffee. If you're depressed, probably don't want to go to the trouble to make the stuff.

And so if you're depressed, you might go for booze instead, which then increases the rates of liver cirrhosis, which is supposedly reduced by coffee drinking. So ultimately being happy might be the underlying cause of all the benefits. And happiness is largely based on genetics.

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Customer: Whew, this coffee tastes like mud!
Waitress: Well, it was ground just this morning.

Sorry. With all this coffee talk I couldn't resist.

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IWantToBelieve wrote:tobacco i can see being bad, i think the day coffee causes cancer i will chose to stay away, it seems 1 cup of coffee a day could not hurt
As Latter Day Saints we don't necessarily choose to stay away from tobacco because it causes cancer, we do so because the Lord told us through His prophets to do so. That's also the reason we stay away from coffee and tea.

I notice your screen name indicates a desire to believe. I have found in my own difficulties that my belief in something has to be backed up by my actions to allow me to hear the Spirit testify to me of the truth of that thing. I can't do that if I close my ears with disobedience to what I've already been told to do.

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AussieOi wrote:the lord specifically didnt command it

Hey Aussie, D&C 58:26 reads "For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward." Just sayin. Hope all is well with you in the land down under.

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