Flagg, how did you miss this???

[bobhenstra]

Daily Paul Liberty Forum
This is an urgent message! Read this and spread the word! Subject: Foreign Trade Zones. This is unbelievable at first, but you will soon realize that there are several motives for the global communists to physically weave our United States territory together with communist China. Read On! Here's what is going on!
Each and every one of our state governors has approved and allocated a certain amount of acres of their U.S. state land to be inhabited by Chinese communists --communists straight from China! They are to set up little towns and live here, supposedly for the purpose of producing Chinese products for sale in the U.S.A. The land the states are giving them for their little towns will be considered "foreign territory"!!! We are told that the laws of the state (in which these Chinese communists dwell) will apply to the communist Foreign Trade Zone (FTZ). Comment: If so, why are they allowed in here!??! Isn't the whole set up unlawful??? There are 257 of these little communist towns to be built all over the United States. Go to this website and see the list of the states, and how many FTZ's are to be erected in each and every state! Our nation is being peppered all over with these communist closed towns called "zones"! This insane brainstorm by Washington, D.C. officials was just recently discovered by alert citizens in the State of Idaho, where an FTZ is being built there, just south of Boise, Idaho, possibly 30,000 acres of Idaho is going to be used for that FTZ. Check this site quickly before it is removed:
http://ia.ita.doc.gov/ftzpage/letters/ftzlist-map.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
When you get to this website, be prepared by having enough paper to print 40 pages, listing all the FTZ's to be built over the whole United States! 257 of these FTZ's! It is absolute insanity!! How gullible are we??? The excuse given for creating communist towns all over our nation is that these Chinese people will produce products for sale in the United States, and the FTZ will eliminate overseas shipping costs of the products they create! A bizarre excuse!!! Can't we manufacture our own products anymore with American workers? How foolish are we to allow this??? Remember the hard-learned lesson taught to gullible people back in ancient times, when the Trojan Horse was built and they pulled it past their protective gates??? Do we Americans look THAT STUPID to the Chinese and to our Washington,D.C. leaders???
It will not mean jobs for Americans. All the help will be Chinese! Besides, it is to be classed as "foreign territory", remember! You won't know what is really going on inside the enclave. Is there any danger for Americans to allow this? What do you think?!!!
It is a known fact that China has been preparing for war against the United States! Many guns are pointed at us. Why should these FTZ's be allowed??? What is the real reason?? Is it that Washington, D.C. needs foreign help to disarm American citizens (who have privately-owned firearms) so that the federal administration can comply with Public Law 87-297, signed into law by J.F. Kennedy for "general and complete disarmament of the United States"? It is a law continually financed by Washington, D.C. That's the law that calls for us to have no more army, no more navy, and no more air force, all of which is to be transferred over on a permanent basis to the communist-dominated United Nations! That law also prohibits all firearms from being owned by American citizens!
Without firearms, there will be no more liberty, freedom, or justice in government. Guns are the main core of the check and balance system. Our nation's founders realized that firearms in the possession of the people are the indispensible safeguard upon which all of the other rights in the "Bill of Rights" depend! That's why the Second Amendment was meant to be honored, treasured, and preserved!
Some people are wondering if the American land in these FTZ's is being given as collateral for the huge debt we owe to China? Some people are asking: "Does China own us and is our land collateral in case we don't pay the debt?" China is allowing American businesses to get established in China as FTZ's. Americans must build the structures in China, and they must employ all Chinese people to do the work in what is built there. After a short amount of years, the Americans must vacate, leave the buildings and let the Chinese keep the technology and the active operation as on-going. What this amounts to is transferring American technology and management to communist China.
FTZ's are also known as SEZ's (Special Economic Zones) Please relay this information to all your friends. Someone has to answer for this on state and federal levels! What a set-up for sabotage, espionage, and a study on how to take over the whole United States in a war! Because the newspapers and other media are controlled, they will not be reporting on this unless there is a great public outcry. Remember when being a communist was a punishable crime in the U.S.A. My, how we have changed! Complete reversal. Best to take this information to local public officials as well as all your contacts. Please do not delay spreading this information. Check with Idaho Eagle Forum also for updates http://www.eagleforum.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HeirofNumenor]

Utah has its FTZ as Salt Lake City (no specific location, parameters, boundaries, or size listed).
As SLC itself is rather small, methinks this will be mainly all of downtown (minus Temple Square?), the airport, the refineries, and the U of U...
- of course that is just a occupation base for starters...

[HeirofNumenor]

Look at California....off to the right in the list are various business listed as "SubZones"....the numbers of oil refineries and tech companies are huge! Talk about asset transfer!

[Col. Flagg]

Bob, what do you mean? I don't read the Daily Paul every day, in fact, I only visit the site occasionally and I'm well aware of these communities being set aside for the Chinese here in the U.S. - we've been sold down the river by bought and paid for 'representatives' who care more about their own political careers and bank accounts than you or I or the nation.

By the way Bob... what's your boy Mitt and his son been up to lately to spread the cause of freedom, truth and personal liberty?

[bobhenstra]

Same place Ron Paul is, "defeated" What gets me is all the people who stayed home or voted for the various potted plants thus endorsing Obama!

[HeirofNumenor]

I've known about the Idaho FTZ for about a year now, and about 6 months ago leaned about the Michigan area between Detroit and Toledo, Ohio...

[Tribunal]

So now what? People have known about this for a long time and nothing! Now that more and more people are learning about this, now what? Nothing! I thought so!

[Col. Flagg]

Same place Ron Paul is, "defeated" What gets me is all the people who stayed home or voted for the various potted plants thus endorsing Obama!

Bob, you of all people should know and should have seen all the red flags for Romney given what you know about the fraudulent political system we have and the fact that any candidate being promoted by the establishment is bad news and any candidate being shunned, ignored, scoffed at, minimized, marginalized and ridiculed, especially given his message of freedom, liberty, truth and the Constitution, is exactly who we ought to be supporting. Oh well... maybe you'll finally get it next election (if we have one). #-o

[bobhenstra]

I would rather have Mitt than Obama! Sadly, so many "so called" conservatives and libertatians preferred endorsing Obama by staying home or voting for a various potted plants who had no chance of winning. Indeed It's sad, Mitt is a decent honorable man, he would have been a great president, he was our country's last chance! But I'm prepared!

[HeirofNumenor]

So now what? People have known about this for a long time and nothing! Now that more and more people are learning about this, now what? Nothing! I thought so!

It's hard to keep up your end of the argument, when your Governor (as in ID - GOP no less) loves the Free Market to a fault, and sees a major influx of cash when their state/county/city is out of money...and the police, firemen, etc all want to get paid....

And then there is the aspect that China is seeking to protect their investment/seize USA collateral for our massive debts...

But most of all....they want North America for its resources, and for breathing room for it's population (already occupying parts of Siberia, and the Russians can't/won't stop them (out of money for military, lack of population there, lack of political will, etc)...

[Col. Flagg]

I would rather have Mitt than Obama! Sadly, so many "so called" conservatives and libertatians preferred endorsing Obama by staying home or voting for a various potted plants who had no chance of winning. Indeed It's sad, Mitt is a decent honorable man, he would have been a great president, he was our country's last chance! But I'm prepared!

I'm not questioning Mitt being decent or honorable (although an argument could be made against it), but I am questioning his dedication to the Constitution because of words and actions contrary to it not to mention his being promoted and funded by the same entities that put Obama into office in 2008 - I can't believe that was inconsequential in your mind? :-\

[A Random Phrase]

Utah has one, but Arizona has 7?

[HeirofNumenor]

Utah has one, but Arizona has 7?

Including Mesa, AZ....

[A Random Phrase]

Yes. Mesa is to Arizona sort of what Salt Lake is to Utah.

[SempiternalHarbinger]

I would rather have Mitt than Obama! Sadly, so many "so called" conservatives and libertatians preferred endorsing Obama by staying home or voting for a various potted plants who had no chance of winning. Indeed It's sad, Mitt is a decent honorable man, he would have been a great president, he was our country's last chance! But I'm prepared!

I'm not questioning Mitt being decent or honorable (although an argument could be made against it), but I am questioning his dedication to the Constitution because of words and actions contrary to it not to mention his being promoted and funded by the same entities that put Obama into office in 2008 - I can't believe that was inconsequential in your mind? :-\

Col. Flagg, you do know who Ron Paul's biggest donors are right? :-\ Try this one on for size, gay activist, billionaire, head of the Bilderberg steering committee Peter Thiel. Say whatever you want about Mitt, but one thing is for sure, Mitt at least puts his money where his mouth is, (literally tens of millions) where Ron Paul does not. Paul has never done himself what he has always asked of his supporters, donate your hard working money for the cause and ideas. literally, not a penny. America lost when Obama won, but America is better off now that one long standing career politician has retired. :ymparty: Vote all incumbents out. In today's political climate, it is too much to ask one to remain true for more than one term.

[Col. Flagg]

I would rather have Mitt than Obama! Sadly, so many "so called" conservatives and libertatians preferred endorsing Obama by staying home or voting for a various potted plants who had no chance of winning. Indeed It's sad, Mitt is a decent honorable man, he would have been a great president, he was our country's last chance! But I'm prepared!

I'm not questioning Mitt being decent or honorable (although an argument could be made against it), but I am questioning his dedication to the Constitution because of words and actions contrary to it not to mention his being promoted and funded by the same entities that put Obama into office in 2008 - I can't believe that was inconsequential in your mind? :-\

Col. Flagg, you do know who Ron Paul's biggest donors are right? :-\ Try this one on for size, gay activist, billionaire, head of the Bilderberg steering committee Peter Thiel. Say whatever you want about Mitt, but one thing is for sure, Mitt at least puts his money where his mouth is, (literally tens of millions) where Ron Paul does not. Paul has never done himself what he has always asked of his supporters, donate your hard working money for the cause and ideas. literally, not a penny. America lost when Obama won, but America is better off now that one long standing career politician has retired. :ymparty: Vote all incumbents out. In today's political climate, it is too much to ask one to remain true for more than one term.

Semp, I am surprised you are that dense. Actually, Peter Thiel is and was not Paul's biggest contributor... Ron's biggest campaign donations came from individuals inside our own military... our men and women in uniform. :ymapplause: What does that tell you? Also, for the record, our former Comptroller General, David Walker, went to work for one of Peter Thiel's foundations after he was unsuccessful in his efforts to warn Americans of what was coming for the country financially and our true debt situation. I don't know anything about Thiel being connected to Bilderberg but if he is, maybe Ron is also unaware? And tell me how if Mr. Thiel contributes anything to Paul's campaign that that affiliates Ron with the man and thus he is an insider because of Thiel's alleged connection to Bilderberg??? You're like my brother who thinks that if the KKK supported Ron that there would be no way in hell he could. #-o

Anyone who thinks Ron Paul is some sort of 'insider' is simply ignorant. And, with Romney being the preferred republican candidate, not to mention his connections to and in the financial world and the hundreds of millions to his name for his 'work' of re-structuring companies, laying people off and off-shoring American businesses for higher profits, he had just a little more money to throw at his campaign that Ron did - you can't even begin to make the comparison because it's like comparing apples and oranges. Furthermore, Ron was fighting the entire establishment and even Romney's people because a president Paul would never bow to the corporate, banking and military-industrial complex interests that had bought both Obama and Romney.

[InfoWarrior82]

Semp, I am surprised you are that dense. Actually, Peter Thiel is and was not Paul's biggest contributor... Ron's biggest campaign donations came from individuals inside our own military... our men and women in uniform. :ymapplause: What does that tell you? Also, for the record, our former Comptroller General, David Walker, went to work for one of Peter Thiel's foundations after he was unsuccessful in his efforts to warn Americans of what was coming for the country financially and our true debt situation. I don't know anything about Thiel being connected to Bilderberg but if he is, maybe Ron is also unaware? And tell me how if Mr. Thiel contributes anything to Paul's campaign that that affiliates Ron with the man and thus he is an insider because of Thiel's alleged connection to Bilderberg??? You're like my brother who thinks that if the KKK supported Ron that there would be no way in hell he could. #-o

Anyone who thinks Ron Paul is some sort of 'insider' is simply ignorant. And, with Romney being the preferred republican candidate, not to mention his connections to and in the financial world and the hundreds of millions to his name for his 'work' of re-structuring companies, laying people off and off-shoring American businesses for higher profits, he had just a little more money to throw at his campaign that Ron did - you can't even begin to make the comparison because it's like comparing apples and oranges. Furthermore, Ron was fighting the entire establishment and even Romney's people because a president Paul would never bow to the corporate, banking and military-industrial complex interests that had bought both Obama and Romney.

Yep.. one rich Bilderberg dude who calls himself a libertarian donates money to Ron Paul = Ron Paul is a disinfo puppet/insider/actor/liar. NAILED IT! #-o

I have a conspiracy theory... maybe that guy donated money for the sole purpose to make you think that.

Last I heard, Marriott still pays tithing to the church.

[Col. Flagg]

Last I heard, Marriott still pays tithing to the church.

Uh-oh... cue my good buddy AussieOi. ) A portion of Marriott's tithing is filthy lucre and I don't think I need to elaborate why.

[SempiternalHarbinger]

I have a conspiracy theory... maybe that guy donated money for the sole purpose to make you think that.

Come on silly rabbits, Trix are for kids. That is the most ridicules thing I have ever heard. It's truly amazing what hard core Ron Paul fanatics come up with to justify his doings while condemning others of the same thing. So hypocritical. On one hand you throw a fit that powers that be financed Mitt Romney campaign, while on the other hand you ignore the fact that your guy has been the one in business with them for the past 40+ years, 35 years as congressman. Than when one brings up just one of his many ties you guys go butt crazy and come up with bull crap conspiracies to justify it. Ron Paul is a first class fraud and no friend of the constitution. You guys shout conspiracy, that everyone is bad, except the one you support. Right, just like everyone in society claims. Everyone is bad except the one they support. Ron Paul is a life-time politician for a reason. Never has the big banks thrown tons of money to defeat Ron Paul, that's because he is on their side. Always has been. He didn't get murdered, didn't get his name thrown throw the mud, didn't get forced out, nope, he retired a filthy millionaire and because of old age. America is a better place without that life-time political hack. The problem is while you guys say you do not support latter-day secret combinations, yet, you support Ron Paul who is one of them.

If Col. Flagg could only hold Ron Paul to the same standards as the leaders of the church than we would be talking. The thing is the Church does not support latter-day gadianton robbers, but they support Ron Paul who is one. The prophet and the brethren are doing serious wrongs while Ron Paul cannot do any wrong and is their real prophet. Go ask Rockefeller why he brought Austrian economics to America and why he has poured billions into the very ideas Ron Paul has pushed all these years? Maybe you should thank him. Either way, the powers that be, satan's financial empire has funded both Austrian economics and the libertarian movements since their inception. It was not an accident. But you guys don't care about your guy only what the other guy is doing. For crying out loud, the Father of Ron Paul economics was a fascist. The very people who funded Austrian economics in the beginning were the very same people who financed the Bilderberg. Bilderberg support of Austrian economics goes back a long way. Peter Thiel, is just the latest bilderberger to support Ron Paul but definitely not the first. Why don't you go ask Ron Paul why he lied about his mysterious ghost writer? Very good reason why he LIED! Or why he lied to the American people about Obama being a constitutional expert and constitutionally qualified to be president? He was silent and mocked those who demanded the constitution be upheld. He betrayed his oath to God, and the American people. Not one representative honored their oath to God in regards to Obamas natural born status, to preserve defend, and protect the constitution against all enemies. Ron Paul mocked those who love liberty. But you guys don't care about the truth because you too are so invested. Good luck. Go Rand Paul!!! :ymparty: Father like son...

[bobhenstra]

Semp, I suspect you were attempting to explain to Flagg that Peter Thiel was Ron Paul's biggest "SINGLE" supporter?

Ron Paul's sole purpose was to pull as many votes as possible away from Mitt Romney, the reason he stayed in the race for as long as he did, stayed even though he was stomped in the vast majority of the primaries.

Indeed, endorsements of Obama come in many ways!

Now, he (Obama) who was (not so) secretly endorsed, has invited the Chinese in to take part in our "supposed" financial recovery, Good luck with that!

All I can say is, THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

Bob

[Mark]

I have a conspiracy theory... maybe that guy donated money for the sole purpose to make you think that.

Come on silly rabbits, Trix are for kids. That is the most ridicules thing I have ever heard. It's truly amazing what hard core Ron Paul fanatics come up with to justify his doings while condemning others of the same thing. So hypocritical. On one hand you throw a fit that powers that be financed Mitt Romney campaign, while on the other hand you ignore the fact that your guy has been the one in business with them for the past 40+ years, 35 years as congressman. Than when one brings up just one of his many ties you guys go butt crazy and come up with bull crap conspiracies to justify it. Ron Paul is a first class fraud and no friend of the constitution. You guys shout conspiracy, that everyone is bad, except the one you support. Right, just like everyone in society claims. Everyone is bad except the one they support. Ron Paul is a life-time politician for a reason. Never has the big banks thrown tons of money to defeat Ron Paul, that's because he is on their side. Always has been. He didn't get murdered, didn't get his name thrown throw the mud, didn't get forced out, nope, he retired a filthy millionaire and because of old age. America is a better place without that life-time political hack. The problem is while you guys say you do not support latter-day secret combinations, yet, you support Ron Paul who is one of them.

If Col. Flagg could only hold Ron Paul to the same standards as the leaders of the church than we would be talking. The thing is the Church does not support latter-day gadianton robbers, but they support Ron Paul who is one. The prophet and the brethren are doing serious wrongs while Ron Paul cannot do any wrong and is their real prophet. Go ask Rockefeller why he brought Austrian economics to America and why he has poured billions into the very ideas Ron Paul has pushed all these years? Maybe you should thank him. Either way, the powers that be, satan's financial empire has funded both Austrian economics and the libertarian movements since their inception. It was not an accident. But you guys don't care about your guy only what the other guy is doing. For crying out loud, the Father of Ron Paul economics was a fascist. The very people who funded Austrian economics in the beginning were the very same people who financed the Bilderberg. Bilderberg support of Austrian economics goes back a long way. Peter Thiel, is just the latest bilderberger to support Ron Paul but definitely not the first. Why don't you go ask Ron Paul why he lied about his mysterious ghost writer? Very good reason why he LIED! Or why he lied to the American people about Obama being a constitutional expert and constitutionally qualified to be president? He was silent and mocked those who demanded the constitution be upheld. He betrayed his oath to God, and the American people. Not one representative honored their oath to God in regards to Obamas natural born status, to preserve defend, and protect the constitution against all enemies. Ron Paul mocked those who love liberty. But you guys don't care about the truth because you too are so invested. Good luck. Go Rand Paul!!! :ymparty: Father like son...

So true Semp. The outright hypocrisy here is staggering. Ron Paul could become President elect of the Bilderbergers and the Col. And others would still make excuses for him. He can do no wrong in their eyes. They are the easiest ones to deceive because of the lack of any kind of filtering concerning "their guy". Yet in the same breathe those like the Col. assume the worst about the Prophets in their stewardship responsibilities. Just staggering..

[Col. Flagg]

Ron Paul's sole purpose was to pull as many votes as possible away from Mitt Romney, the reason he stayed in the race for as long as he did, stayed even though he was stomped in the vast majority of the primaries.

Indeed, endorsements of Obama come in many ways!
Bob

Bob... hat tip for the most absurd post of the month. :ymapplause: #-o

[HeirofNumenor]

Semp, I suspect you were attempting to explain to Flagg that Peter Thiel was Ron Paul's biggest "SINGLE" supporter?

CORRECT.

While Ron Paul received more donations from active duty military personnel than did all other candidates combined.

[Col. Flagg]

So true Semp. The outright hypocrisy here is staggering. Ron Paul could become President elect of the Bilderbergers and the Col. And others would still make excuses for him.

If that were to ever happen, I would immediately lose all faith and trust in Ron. But it didn't happen, never would happen and won't happen.

He can do no wrong in their eyes.

We know Ron wasn't and isn't perfect... but he was the best chance and shot we had at returning to a constitutional form of representative government based on the principles of freedom, liberty, truth and justice. Unfortunately, that wasn't and isn't the plan.

They are the easiest ones to deceive because of the lack of any kind of filtering concerning "their guy".

Mark, if we were easy to deceive, we'd still accept the government's narrative of 9/11 and would believe in and have faith in the two-party system and that our federal government was interested in doing the right thing. =)) #-o

Yet in the same breathe those like the Col. assume the worst about the Prophets in their stewardship responsibilities. Just staggering..

I will always decry a multi-billion mammon mall that caters to the rich and expansive, expensive fine sanctuaries that rob the poor regardless of which church was involved in its/their construction and it has nothing to do with 'assuming the worst about our prophet(s)'.

[InfoWarrior82]

I have a conspiracy theory... maybe that guy donated money for the sole purpose to make you think that.

Come on silly rabbits, Trix are for kids. That is the most ridicules thing I have ever heard. It's truly amazing what hard core Ron Paul fanatics come up with to justify his doings while condemning others of the same thing. So hypocritical. On one hand you throw a fit that powers that be financed Mitt Romney campaign, while on the other hand you ignore the fact that your guy has been the one in business with them for the past 40+ years, 35 years as congressman. Than when one brings up just one of his many ties you guys go butt crazy and come up with bull crap conspiracies to justify it. Ron Paul is a first class fraud and no friend of the constitution. You guys shout conspiracy, that everyone is bad, except the one you support. Right, just like everyone in society claims. Everyone is bad except the one they support. Ron Paul is a life-time politician for a reason. Never has the big banks thrown tons of money to defeat Ron Paul, that's because he is on their side. Always has been. He didn't get murdered, didn't get his name thrown throw the mud, didn't get forced out, nope, he retired a filthy millionaire and because of old age. America is a better place without that life-time political hack. The problem is while you guys say you do not support latter-day secret combinations, yet, you support Ron Paul who is one of them.

If Col. Flagg could only hold Ron Paul to the same standards as the leaders of the church than we would be talking. The thing is the Church does not support latter-day gadianton robbers, but they support Ron Paul who is one. The prophet and the brethren are doing serious wrongs while Ron Paul cannot do any wrong and is their real prophet. Go ask Rockefeller why he brought Austrian economics to America and why he has poured billions into the very ideas Ron Paul has pushed all these years? Maybe you should thank him. Either way, the powers that be, satan's financial empire has funded both Austrian economics and the libertarian movements since their inception. It was not an accident. But you guys don't care about your guy only what the other guy is doing. For crying out loud, the Father of Ron Paul economics was a fascist. The very people who funded Austrian economics in the beginning were the very same people who financed the Bilderberg. Bilderberg support of Austrian economics goes back a long way. Peter Thiel, is just the latest bilderberger to support Ron Paul but definitely not the first. Why don't you go ask Ron Paul why he lied about his mysterious ghost writer? Very good reason why he LIED! Or why he lied to the American people about Obama being a constitutional expert and constitutionally qualified to be president? He was silent and mocked those who demanded the constitution be upheld. He betrayed his oath to God, and the American people. Not one representative honored their oath to God in regards to Obamas natural born status, to preserve defend, and protect the constitution against all enemies. Ron Paul mocked those who love liberty. But you guys don't care about the truth because you too are so invested. Good luck. Go Rand Paul!!! :ymparty: Father like son...

You're not even making sense. You're comparing one contributor. A single person. Peter Thiel. And then saying that we are hypocrites because we say that Mitt Romney has multiple GINORMOUS corporations donating to him (the same ones who donated to Obama)? Then you change subjects and bring up Rockefeller dumping money into the idea of free market so he could usurp and take the free market for himself and his buddies. Rockefeller hates the free market. Who was the one that said competition is a sin? Yep. Rockefeller did. Have you seen Ron Paul doing this/ supporting this/saying this? You make the connection to Rockefeller (as a known manipulator of the free market) to Ron Paul... how? You don't agree with Ron Paul's vision/concept of a free market?

I guess the church is corrupt for taking tithing money from Brother Marriott. Right?

Whoops, Semp.