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Pope Benedict to step down at the end of the month. Pretty crazy stuff. This hasn't happened since the middle ages.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02 ... the-month/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://news.yahoo.com/pope-benedict-ste ... 22132.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Wow! I wonder what the next guy will be like?

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“After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths due to an advanced age are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry,” he told the cardinals. “I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only by words and deeds but no less with prayer and suffering.

“However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the barque of St. Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary – strengths which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfill the ministry entrusted to me.”
I respect this. Seems to be a very humble man.

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Peter of Rome is whom to be the next called.

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Elias Returns wrote:Peter of Rome is whom to be the next called.
Another example of the first shall be last? (Catholics consider Peter the first pope, I think.)

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Very good O.I., I did not even think of that possibility.

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Elias Returns wrote:Peter of Rome is whom to be the next called.
ER....do you think it is Cardinal Peter Turkson? or one of the Italian cardinals.

btw, I sent you a message. :)

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Yep. Enter Peter the Roman. I guess now we'll see how much validity there really is to St. Malachy's papal "prophecy". Will the next pope really be the last pope? Who knows.

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I think it will be interesting too to see if the next pope will be the last pope and the events that transpire.

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there's a prophecy that says, the next one will be the "black pope" AND the last one

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So I got curious and looked it up.

There are many other visions as well...
9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive)....

10. PETER THE ROMAN - The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." The last pope may just cut Catholics loose from unity and the papacy, causing total disruption and confusion. See Saint Francis of Assissi's 13th century prophecy below. It is believed the next pope will

Another vision....
Saint Hildegard (12th Century)

The time is coming when princes and peoples will reject the authority of the Pope. Some countries will prefer their own Church rulers to the Pope. The German Empire will be divided.

Before the comet comes, many nations, the good excepted, will be scourged by want and famine. The great nation in the ocean that is inhabited by people of different tribes and descent will be devastated by earthquake, storm, and tidal wave. It will be divided and, in great part, submerged. That nation will also have many misfortunes at sea and lose its colonies.

[After the] great Comet, the great nation will be devastated by earthquakes, storms, and great waves of water, causing much want and plagues. The ocean will also flood many other countries, so that all coastal cities will live in fear, with many destroyed.

All sea coast cities will be fearful, and many of them will be destroyed by tidal waves, and most living creatures will be killed, and even those who escape will die from a horrible disease. For in none of those cities does a person live according to the Laws of God.

A powerful wind will rise in the North, carrying heavy fog and the densest dust, and it will fill their throats and eyes so that they will cease their butchery and be stricken with a great fear.
Source: http://www.bibleprobe.com/last10popes.htm

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This is justifiably significant news; the sudden resignation of the current Pope and subsequent succession of a new Pope is a religious, historical and political event. I have a number of good Catholic friends who have given me an interesting view of how Catholics differ in their relationship to their Church. Any organization with such a deep history is bound to struggle with internal conflict from both within and without. Some Catholics I know have been very supportive of some Pope’s and more suspicious of others. In short, the Catholic Church is more like a federation of orders.

This latest news concerning the pending resignation of Pope Benedict XVI took me by surprise. I was already hearing news about unusual activities and ceremonial processions at the Vatican this past weekend. I did some additional digging and discovered that this past weekend has indeed been very eventful. I’m not sure if the events (see link) are related or not, but the timing is interesting.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... at-vatican

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Original_Intent wrote:
Elias Returns wrote:Peter of Rome is whom to be the next called.
Another example of the first shall be last? (Catholics consider Peter the first pope, I think.)
Seriously? You guys aren't joking? I thought it was a joke.

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Not a joke. In many Catholic Churches in Mexico the statues representing San Pedro Apóstol (Saint Peter the Apostle) are shown with Peter wearing Papal regalia.

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Oh, I know that the original Peter was considered the first pope. What I was surprised about was that the next pope is supposed to be named Peter. That's the part I thought was a joke. Peter of Rome, of all places. I've never heard of the prophesies.

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Called to Serve wrote:Oh, I know that the original Peter was considered the first pope. What I was surprised about was that the next pope is supposed to be named Peter. That's the part I thought was a joke. Peter of Rome, of all places. I've never heard of the prophesies.
I hadn't before today either. I found this: http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Glenn wrote:This is justifiably significant news; the sudden resignation of the current Pope and subsequent succession of a new Pope is a religious, historical and political event. I have a number of good Catholic friends who have given me an interesting view of how Catholics differ in their relationship to their Church. Any organization with such a deep history is bound to struggle with internal conflict from both within and without. Some Catholics I know have been very supportive of some Pope’s and more suspicious of others. In short, the Catholic Church is more like a federation of orders.

This latest news concerning the pending resignation of Pope Benedict XVI took me by surprise. I was already hearing news about unusual activities and ceremonial processions at the Vatican this past weekend. I did some additional digging and discovered that this past weekend has indeed been very eventful. I’m not sure if the events (see link) are related or not, but the timing is interesting.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/201 ... at-vatican
I agree, in my situation I grew up Catholic until I joined the church close to the end of high school. I understood some things about it, but my honest warning about members of the church is that well, if you multiplied the membership of our church, then made our church hisory last much longer than the 1830 founding, then yes, you would have plenty of internal conflict, and political pressure over whom our church should have to succeed the prophet, or even more besides. It's not to say there haven't been some conflicts of succession in our church: one example being the succession following the prophet Joseph Smith's death, but it's not as if the world outside of church membership regularly cares or makes a big deal about who the new Prophet is, but again, if our church was far larger in membership, and far longer in it's history, it probably wouldn't be as different in magnitude as the Catholic Church is.

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i believe after this the catholic church may become more liberal in it's doings.. not sure if that's a good or a bad thing but we are in times of change that is for sure

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