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United States ranks last in comparison to 16 other peers
Posted: February 4th, 2013, 7:38 pm
by Benjamin_LK
A recent Washington Post article the discussion over the United States ranking poor against other developed nations in its statistics for infant mortality (infants dying within their first year following birth. Against 16 other "peer" nations, the United States ranked last.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/won ... lity-rate/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: United States ranks last in comparison to 16 other peers
Posted: February 4th, 2013, 8:13 pm
by Original_Intent
Well, making us dead last is easy to do. If we are tenth, rank only the top ten of our "peers". If 17th, 17, etc.
Doesn't mean that we shouldn't improve. Could the problem be that we are also well down the list in education, therefore we end up with more poorly educated doctors?
Is it that we have so much socialization and needless expense in anything medical, that we are paying more for poorer quality? (again, same can be said for education and other things.)
Is it because of the poisons in our food and/or the poor nutritional value of our increasingly GMO diets (thus impairing both the mother and the growing child, causing the higher mortality rates?
Statistics are good, seeking root causes is important though. It's easy to state a problem.
Re: United States ranks last in comparison to 16 other peers
Posted: February 5th, 2013, 9:20 am
by gclayjr
You have to be careful about statistics. For instance, as bad as abortion is in the U.S., we do not abort babies that may have problems as regularly as other countries...particularly those European countries with lower infant mortality.
So I guess you have to decide is it better to get rid of potential difficult babies before they are born, or let them be born and struggle to raise them, while some of them won't make it... and raise our statistical infant mortality rate?
Regards,
George Clay
Re: United States ranks last in comparison to 16 other peers
Posted: February 5th, 2013, 11:46 am
by Benjamin_LK
gclayjr wrote:You have to be careful about statistics. For instance, as bad as abortion is in the U.S., we do not abort babies that may have problems as regularly as other countries...particularly those European countries with lower infant mortality.
So I guess you have to decide is it better to get rid of potential difficult babies before they are born, or let them be born and struggle to raise them, while some of them won't make it... and raise our statistical infant mortality rate?
Regards,
George Clay
Abortion isn't counted as infant mortality, although I and others wish it were. Again, the deaths counted as infant mortality are within the first year after birth. I do feel that some of it may be correlated with unusually early vaccination, such as at two to four months. Japan had it's healthcare system forced by law to start vaccinations after the child is past the first year, and there has been measured a significant decrease.
http://www.naturalnews.com/032892_vacci ... ality.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Again the source deserves some critical thinking, but researchers in Japan and Sweden have warned against vaccinating children before they are over one year old.
I would suspect there are other causes, but I do feel concerned that the healthcare system in the United States doesn't question a lot of it's progressing practices, including early vaccination age.
Re: United States ranks last in comparison to 16 other peers
Posted: February 5th, 2013, 11:47 am
by Benjamin_LK
Original_Intent wrote:Well, making us dead last is easy to do. If we are tenth, rank only the top ten of our "peers". If 17th, 17, etc.
Doesn't mean that we shouldn't improve. Could the problem be that we are also well down the list in education, therefore we end up with more poorly educated doctors?
Is it that we have so much socialization and needless expense in anything medical, that we are paying more for poorer quality? (again, same can be said for education and other things.)
Is it because of the poisons in our food and/or the poor nutritional value of our increasingly GMO diets (thus impairing both the mother and the growing child, causing the higher mortality rates?
Statistics are good, seeking root causes is important though. It's easy to state a problem.
I agree, and that's why I set up this topic. I figured it's a good way to invite some facts, insights, and opinions to the board.