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Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 24th, 2013, 8:19 pm
by bobhenstra
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Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 24th, 2013, 9:12 pm
by jcricket6048
That is a wonderful story of faith, love and forgiveness. They can teach us about humility and Christ like attitude thank you Bob for bringing this out I enjoyed this story. About the guy with red hair I had hair that was almost red and when I saw that I was thrilled

Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 24th, 2013, 11:18 pm
by bobhenstra
King Lamoni moments! Three Nephites?

Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 6:56 am
by marc
I'm working on blog entries about the Timbimboo family. In this article you see Pachecos and Timbimboos. Moroni Timbimboo, if I recall, was the first Lamanite Bishop in the area. His great, great (great?) grandson, Hunter Timbimboo is a friend of mine. He has taken my son hunting often. He's cousin to another friend and co-worker, through the Pachecos. Hopefully I can get all this on to my blog within the next couple months. I've been digging through a ton of history in the Logan and Tremonton (and Brigham City where I live) areas to put it all together. Hopefully I can get some time with Hunter and interview him. His parents (Timbimboos) live just down the street from me.

Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 11:00 am
by bobhenstra
Marc I would appreciate a link to your blog.

Bob

Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 25th, 2013, 11:13 am
by marc
Hi, Bob! You can click the link to my blog, "Latter-day Lamanite" in my signature below or the website icon link under my avatar.

Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 26th, 2013, 9:50 am
by larsenb
Fascinating follow-up on the Bear River massacre, which was always depressing to me to read about, especially without this information. I had picked the story up directly from the DesNews. It may be worth quoting an extract that describes the singular experience that brought this group into the Church, for those who were disinclined to hit Bob's link:
For the next 10 years, the Northwestern Shoshone struggled to survive amid poverty and a tug-of-war with government officials over their lands and resources.

In early 1873, one of Sagwitch’s fellow chiefs had a vision in which three men visited him. One of the three messengers told him “that the Mormon’s God was the true God … that he and the Indian’s Father were one; that he must go to the Mormons and they would tell him what to do; that he must be baptized, with all his Indians; and that the time was at hand for the Indians to gather, stop Indian life, and learn to cultivate the earth and build houses,” according to Christensen’s biography of Sagwitch.

All the chiefs believed the dream was the will of the Great Spirit. They also found common ground with various aspects of the Latter-day Saint religion, such as healing by the laying on of hands. They went looking for George Washington Hill and found him in Ogden.

Hill had previously developed a trusted relationship with the Indians as a missionary. He spoke their language. They requested that Hill, whom they called “Inkapompy” — “Man with Red Hair” — come and preach to them.

Hill wanted to help them but first needed LDS Church President Brigham Young’s permission. A few days later, Hill was summoned to the prophet’s office, where he was called to be a missionary to the Indians. President Young also charged Hill with helping the people establish a place where they could learn to farm and be self-supporting.
We used to live in a part of the U of U Student Family Housing that was wihin easy walking/distance from the Ft. Douglas cemetery. As I recall, Ft. Douglas itself was established by Col Connor just after the massacre along with this little cemetery where they buried the 17 soldiers who were killed there along with others who were wounded and died later from their wounds.

Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 26th, 2013, 12:53 pm
by bobhenstra
I'll be looking forward to Marc's historical research on this matter! The massacre was a terrible stain on early America, and especially the so called California volunteers and their leader Conner, the resulting promotion of Conner when he should have been court marshaled. Yet,* the limited information we currently have concerning the aftermath very inspirational. It bothers me that it took ten years for Mormons to start helping those people, but our Lord sending messengers to the Chiefs, again inspirational.

When I was a kid, late 40's, early 50's, as a family we attended shows put on by the Indian School in Brigham City, they were great shows, and I looked forward to them each year. What those kids could do with hoops absolutely amazed me!

I loved President Young's response when the government attempted to move the Utah Shoshone to Ft. Hall in Idaho; In so may words---"Those people are Mormons, they stay right here!"

Bob

Re: Bear River Massacre

Posted: January 26th, 2013, 2:16 pm
by marc
My research won't necessarily be on the Bear River Massacre as there is already ample research done on it, though I might touch on it. I apologize for going somewhat off topic. Anyway, my blog entry will revolve around Yeager's son, Moroni Timbimboo who was the first Lamanite bishop in the LDS church and Shoshone life during this time period and possibly life for his posterity down to Moroni's great, great grandson, Hunter, who is my son's friend and one of my friends on Facebook. Once I can put everything together, I hope to sit down with Hunter for an interview and possibly with his parents to get a more intimate perspective on this history.

Moroni displaying hides:
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Moroni wearing his headdress:
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