JohnnyL wrote:A Random Phrase wrote:JohnnyL wrote:Pro-LDS? Ha ha, ha ha. NOT! Or maybe you could say, "which" LDS?
Headline of the site: (Why are they trying to get people interested in joining the church?)
Mormonism-Unveiled: Fact Vs. Fancy
Mormonism-Unveiled provides a discussion of Latter-day Saint (Mormon) doctrines, practices, and current events from the pro-LDS point of view. In Mormonism-Unveiled, note that I speak only for myself and do not officially speak on behalf of the LDS Church. Get all the facts before you join. Mormonism may not be for everyone - but it might be for YOU
Column on left side: "LDS NEWS" with links to "Your Houston News" and to some "Deseret News" articles. The blurb on one says:
A
ksl.com link about unprecedented number of LDS teenagers signing up for missionary service.
A link to
"LDS NEWSROOM" (All "shouting" is theirs.)
4 links to
"OFFICIAL LDS YOUTUBE CHANNELS"
32 links under
"OFFICIAL LDS WEBSITES" and they certainly look like the church I belong to. You know, the one presided over by Thomas S. Monson.
Why would an anti-Mormon site have all of that and a whole lot more?
There
is an article about a former missionary doing things he shouldn't have, but it is not from an anti point of view as far as I can see, though it does not seem to hide from the facts. (This is probably why Heir cannot view the site.)
You people who insist this is an anti Mormon site, have you actually read any of it? This site is as anti Mormon as LDS.org.
Ok, so how about this:
Anti-Mormon Websites
Ex-Mormon
First And Only Issue Of The Nauvoo Expositor
Mormon Curtain
Mormon Think
Musings On Mormonism (Blogger)
Saints Alive In Jesus (Ed Decker)
Through The Maze Ministry (James Spencer)
Utah Lighthouse Ministry (Sandra Tanner)
About Me, Jack Mormon
I'm a Jack Mormon - which means I believe it, but don't practice all of it. Why do I stay with Mormonism? Because it answers more of my questions and offers me more possibilities than any other denomination or faith. All religions contain varying amounts of the truth - I just believe Mormons have more of it than anyone else.
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Much more, but I guess we have different views on "Pro-Mormon".
I feel that it certainly isn't anti-mormon in how:
1) It discusses the activities of various members of the church, both good and bad actions, in the case of negative actions, Jack, as he refers to himself, argues in a positive context how the actions are the perpetrators' actions, and that the church doctrine isn't favorable.
2) It discusses how the church really does have a politically diverse membership. I will admit, I don't agree politically with everyone in the church, not even everyone on this forum, in the same way. However, what I feel about politics, is that the various sides tend to exaggerate and character assasinate on the basis of how bad the other side really is. I feel that what's most important is who ultimately makes the decision to stand with the church and the ways of God, in my own experience, it's very risky when you wish to judge people as to their faith based on their political affiliation. Just for the record, I myself am a democrat. I am not, however, in favor of abortion, and I do bring to the table how I feel about the issue, I am also not unquestionably Democrat in how I vote, either, if the time does arise, as it has for me on a number of occasions, and I do feel that the Democratic politician isn't the better choice, I have no problem voting Republican or Third Party, I am open to researching my available options, and that's what I feel is more important to me, than whether I am registered as red, blue, green, or whatever color a political party has, in fact, I feel it goes along well with what the prophet Joseph Smith stated in mentioning principle above party. Anyways, the other main reason I register as either red or blue is that I have no vote in the primaries if I don't. I have made appeals to change that, because I do feel it isn't fair to those in third party. I also feel that it's not fair how in many debates, only two parties actually show up. I don't agree with Jack's Perspective on the blog, but while his claims are certainly debateable, his conduct and response to me commentary has been anything but irrational and personal attacks, again, a key aspect he refuses here is guilt by association.
3) Jack Mormon makes the disclaimer at the top of the page that he doesn't speak for the church, I think that's pretty important to make that claim.
4) He brings up some issues that are controversial, but nonetheless acceptable in a mature context. He mentions the flaws of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. To me, knowing myself, my own flaws, and my own repentances, as well as my own misjudgements of others, I do understand where he and Dr. Mark Peterson are going. They are arguing that despite flaws, we can still understand the great contributions that they, and possibly the advice or appeal of others helped them make, and understand the story in a more mature way. It's true that MLKJr. cheated on his wife, and did plagiarize phrases in a thesis which he wrote. However, it neccessarily change the complexity and benefit of what he encouraged others and did for others, despite his wrongful acts, he did push to emphasize the need to forgive to others, rise above the circumstances, and he did express, IMO very important viewpoints, and a rational opposition to the War in Vietnam as an unjust war of aggression. Do his flaws outweigh the work he undertook for others? Again, I can't be the judge of this, but it's all confirmed historical information.
To me, anti-mormonism has the limit when a person has an obsession with defaming the church. This isn't just anyone who calls the church false, it's about how far someone takes the focus.
I will admit, Jack isn't exactly anti-mormon, because he doesn't bring out a focus on inherently defaming the church as much as he takes his own opinion, and puts up for discussion where points are contestable, and where actions of church members can be either could or bad, but not neccessarily representative of the church as a whole.
I love his article from last year about the girl in California who started a modesty club, among people regardless of membership in the church! I wonder why I didn't bother trying something similar, like a no swearing club. But either way, it's also positive too, and humorous as well.
I totally thought it was intentional. :p