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Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 2:13 pm
by Col. Flagg
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01 ... s-own-city" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Glenn Beck Building Ayn Rand-Inspired Utopia
Glenn Beck has a dream. On Thursday, the former Fox News host, gold bug, survival-seed guru, movie star, and bestselling author unveiled plans for a new planned community—inspired by the Ayn Rand novel Atlas Shrugged—to be built at an undisclosed location somewhere in the United States*.
No, really:
Glenn believes that he can bring the heart and the spirit of Walt's early Disneyland ideas into reality. Independence, USA wouldn't be about rides and merchandise, but would be about community and freedom. The Marketplace would be a place where craftmen and artisan could open and run real small businesses and stores. The owners and tradesmen could hold apprenticeships and teach young people the skills and entrepreneurial spirit that has been lost in today’s entitlement state.
There would also be an Media Center, where Glenn's production company would film television, movies, documentaries, and more. Glenn hoped to include scripted television that would challenge viewers without resorting to a loss of human decency. He also said it would be a place where aspiring journalists would learn how to be great reporters.
Across the lake, there would be a church modelled after The Alamo which would act as a multi-denominational mission center. The town will also have a working ranch where visitors can learn how to farm and work the land.
Independence would also be home to a Research and Development center where people would come to learn, innovate, educate, and create. There would be a theme park for people to recharge and have fun with their families.
People would also have the option to live in Independence, with a residential area where people of different incomes could all come together and be neighbors.
Beck estimates the city-theme-park will cost about $2 billion to build, or roughly .002 trillion-dollar platinum coins, or .178 Fox News blue whales.
Correction: This post originally stated that the city would be in Texas. Beck hasn't specified which state he'll build Independence in.
Interesting.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 2:21 pm
by singyourwayhome
Have you read the book "
How an Economy Grows and Why it Crashes"?
Your answer is inside.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 2:40 pm
by karend77
Don't know if Beck is involved in this one, but here's a link to a proposed planned community in Idaho:
http://realestate.aol.com/blog/2013/01/ ... community/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 4:08 pm
by ebenezerarise
Truly bizarre. Does anyone have a link from Beck on this? Coming from Mother Jones, there's something about this that is beyond odd. Not that Beck's not capable of this, he definitely is.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 4:32 pm
by singyourwayhome
Which planned community do you think is bizarre?
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 4:59 pm
by mes5464
Here is the Citadel's web site.
http://iiicitadel.com/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 6:08 pm
by HeirofNumenor
Okay Flagg - that OP pic is just WRONG! :ymsick:
How dare he sully such a wonderful castle with his image? X(
(sorry - I love castles)
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 8:31 pm
by ebenezerarise
singyourwayhome wrote:Which planned community do you think is bizarre?
So far, everything I've read in this thread. So don't know if this is something Beck is actually doing though.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 8:38 pm
by Thomas
I wonder who will do the work. It sounds like it will be full of wind bags, like Beck, who have never done any real work.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 8:49 pm
by jbalm
Thomas wrote:I wonder who will do the work. It sounds like it will be full of wind bags, like Beck, who have never done any real work.
=))
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 9:09 pm
by ajax
If God chose Beck to be the "mighty and strong one".....I'm gonna to be ticked.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 10:33 pm
by singyourwayhome
jbalm wrote:Thomas wrote:I wonder who will do the work. It sounds like it will be full of wind bags, like Beck, who have never done any real work.
=))
Careful with how you judge and the generalizations you throw out. Of any accusations you could levy against him, being lazy is not one of them. I also think he's one of a few putting his money where his mouth is, that he understands the needed change in the country comes both through educating people (read Helaman 5), and through helping them CREATE. His community is meant to be an incubator and place of learning, and yes, he's really planning on building it. Try
his website - TheBlaze.com- for more accurate information.
If the most charitable use of one's money is to give it directly to someone, then why does the Church bother with Deseret Industries, with cattle ranches, with peanut farms, peach orchards, and fields of wheat?
Their goal is "The Lord's Way"- teaching responsibility and self-reliance, giving 'a hand up, not a handout'.
Sure, Glenn Beck isn't going to do it perfectly. But he's at least trying.
Moroni 7:13 But behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good continually; wherefore, every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love God, and to serve him, is inspired of God.
7:18 And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the light by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 10:57 pm
by Thomas
Sorry, I just don't buy into the Ayn Rand philosophy. It takes the work of thousands to make the major corporations successful. Rand gives the credit to one individual. She also does not give any credit to God for creating the earth and all the resources in it.
I guess Beck could go to work with me for a week and if he survives it, I will respect him. I have little respect, for millionaire air bags, who live off the backs of the poor.
Isaiah 65:
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
When he builds a city like this, then we will be getting somewhere. Until that happens, I call Beck out. Lets see him him build for real. Lets see him use his own hands to build this city, for real, everyday for years. The talk doesn't impress me.
The Ayn Rand model is the opposite of Zion. One labors, and another eats. One builds and another inhabits. Those who labor, labor in vain, while the Becks of the world enjoy the fruits thereof.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 8:41 am
by singyourwayhome
Thomas wrote:Sorry, I just don't buy into the Ayn Rand philosophy. It takes the work of thousands to make the major corporations successful. Rand gives the credit to one individual. She also does not give any credit to God for creating the earth and all the resources in it.
Well, then, there's a big difference between a true Rand follower and Beck. He does believe in God and give him credit.
Thomas wrote:I guess Beck could go to work with me for a week and if he survives it, I will respect him. I have little respect, for millionaire air bags, who live off the backs of the poor.
You're assuming a lot about a person you don't know.
You're also making the claim that your kind of work is the only real work. And your next sentence reminds me of something the First Presidency wrote in the 1940's, echoed by Benson and others later:
We believe that our real threat comes from within and not from without, and it comes from the underlying spirit common to Naziism, Fascism, and Communism, namely the spirit which would array class against class,
In other words, pride. Me against you. Not ''what can I do to build the Kingdom of God', and 'what can I do to help others build the Kingdom?'
Thomas wrote:Isaiah 65:
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
That's a
promise of the Lord, not a
precondition of Zion. If you want to take that tack, you'd be saying that nobody would be allowed to move, to buy or sell their house or land. The promise is that nobody will TAKE the fruit of our labors away, not that we cannot give or sell them away. Socialism/communism takes, The Law of Consecration is based on freewill giving. That's what I see in this promise- the end of plunder, invasion, and redistribution of wealth.
Thomas wrote:When he builds a city like this, then we will be getting somewhere. Until that happens, I call Beck out. Lets see him him build for real. Lets see him use his own hands to build this city, for real, everyday for years. The talk doesn't impress me.
The Ayn Rand model is the opposite of Zion. One labors, and another eats. One builds and another inhabits. Those who labor, labor in vain, while the Becks of the world enjoy the fruits thereof.
Yes, we will watch and see if this city becomes a reality. Plans always have to start out as that- plans and words. God works that way too, and delegates the actual creating (does that mean God doesn't work?) - and no, I'm not saying Beck is God!- just that there is a pattern to creating. You know that, whatever your line of work is.
“Let us not be deceived in the sifting days ahead. Let us rally together on principle behind the prophet as guided by the promptings of the Spirit. We should continue to speak out for freedom and against socialism and communism. We should continue to come to the aid of patriots, programs, and organizations that are trying to save our Constitution through every legal and moral means possible.” (Ezra Taft Benson”Be Not Deceived” 1065)
Whatever your beef is with him, what I see is Beck trying to save our Constitution through legal and moral means. I can respect that.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 1:54 pm
by pjbrownie
If he wants to build Independence--he needs to wait for the First Presidency to announce it first
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 22nd, 2013, 2:24 pm
by singyourwayhome
pjbrownie wrote:If he wants to build Independence--he needs to wait for the First Presidency to announce it first
Nah, that Independence was announced a LONG time ago. We're just waiting for them to announce Zion by name. And I think
Elder Holland's talk last year didn't count.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 27th, 2013, 1:58 am
by Lucetta
oh my gosh I want to go!
that would be an awesome place to be!!
ahaha you know it's funny but every time I get an idea for something big like this Glenn Beck beats me to it (usually because he's got the funds, unlike me) but I've got pretty much similar ideas.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 2:54 am
by freedomforall
Thomas wrote:Sorry, I just don't buy into the Ayn Rand philosophy. It takes the work of thousands to make the major corporations successful. Rand gives the credit to one individual. She also does not give any credit to God for creating the earth and all the resources in it.
I guess Beck could go to work with me for a week and if he survives it, I will respect him. I have little respect, for millionaire air bags, who live off the backs of the poor.
Isaiah 65:
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
When he builds a city like this, then we will be getting somewhere. Until that happens, I call Beck out. Lets see him him build for real. Lets see him use his own hands to build this city, for real, everyday for years. The talk doesn't impress me.
The Ayn Rand model is the opposite of Zion. One labors, and another eats. One builds and another inhabits. Those who labor, labor in vain, while the Becks of the world enjoy the fruits thereof.
The Proverbs
Chapter 6
16 ¶These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.
We all could learn something.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 6:21 am
by BroJones
"Correction: This post originally stated that the city would be in Texas. Beck hasn't specified which state he'll build Independence in."
How about in Missouri? what a novel idea -- build the New Jerusalem in Missouri. Who would have thought of it?
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 9:37 am
by sadie_Mormon
I think it's a great idea! It's great seeing that there are folks who are putting these things into action. I say kudos to him and to save me a lot!
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 10:39 am
by dauser
Where did GB get $2 Billion dollars to build a city?
Is GB tapped into the zio-money machine?
The zio-money changers that change paper into green, legal tender, crisp hundred dollar bills?
GB calls himself a libertarian yet bashes Ron Paul and hates on Alex Jones?
and doing damage control for TPTB on all their false flag attacks?
Does something smell funny? Or is it just my breath again?
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 10:45 am
by Col. Flagg
HeirofNumenor wrote:Okay Flagg - that OP pic is just WRONG! :ymsick:
How dare he sully such a wonderful castle with his image? X(
(sorry - I love castles)
Beck isn't the church.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 10:45 am
by Col. Flagg
ajax wrote:If God chose Beck to be the "mighty and strong one".....I'm gonna to be ticked.
God isn't that foolish.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 10:46 am
by sadie_Mormon
dauser wrote:Where did GB get $2 Billion dollars to build a city?
Is GB tapped into the zio-money machine?
The zio-money changers that change paper into green, legal tender, hundred dollar bills.
GB calls himself a libertarian yet bashes Ron Paul and hates on Alex Jones?
and doing damage control for TPTB on all their false flag attacks?
Does something smell funny? Or is it my socks.
OK so when you say "zio-money" are you speaking of Zionist Jews? If so what do you have against them? It's simple people supporting the nation of Israel.
Re: Glenn Beck to build his own city???
Posted: January 28th, 2013, 10:48 am
by Col. Flagg
dauser wrote:Where did GB get $2 Billion dollars to build a city?
Is GB tapped into the zio-money machine?
The zio-money changers that change paper into green, legal tender, crisp hundred dollar bills?
GB calls himself a libertarian yet bashes Ron Paul and hates on Alex Jones?
and doing damage control for TPTB on all their false flag attacks?
Does something smell funny? Or is it just my breath again?
Exactly. :ymapplause: