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Good discussion on gun rights

Posted: January 17th, 2013, 12:46 pm
by uglypitbull

Re: Good discussion on gun rights

Posted: January 23rd, 2013, 8:56 am
by Benjamin_LK
I have figured a little estimate right here as to how serious of a threat getting murdered is...

Let's say that the U.S. has the 2010 murder rate of 4 per 100,000.

If you have 4 per 100,000, that comes out to a a fraction of 0.00004 or 4/100 of one percent.

Now here's the assumption: If the murder rate is uniform for all age groups, then you could multiply it by 75 years, an average lifespan, to get a figure of 0.003, or 3/10 of one percent, and given that slightly less than half of all murders use guns, the figure would be close to 12/100 to 15/100 of one percent. In other words, you're far more likely to have death by a heart attack, or be on your death bed from cancer, than get murdered with a gun.

Again, even this stat, as I calculated it, has it's inaccuracies and assumptions, I am totally certain there are better ones out there, but either way, while not the absolute best, the U.S. could at least be considered decent in making sure the murder rate is relatively small, at less than 10 per 100,000.

Re: Good discussion on gun rights

Posted: January 23rd, 2013, 7:48 pm
by jlgprovo
The issue of gun rights is really where the rubber meets the road, in terms of our Constitution.

Those who stand up for gun rights make a very important point about the Constitution, which applies not only to the Second Amendment, but also to the 9th and 10th Amendments, as well as other important components of the Constitution.

As evidenced by the unconstitutional, federal firearms regulations that are already on the books, as well as the high profile movement to increase those regulations, the U.S. Government continues to slide down the slippery slope of erosion of the rights and powers of the People.

Gun rights is where the rubber meets the road, because gun rights are not just about the Second Amendment, they are about the entire Constitution. Are you going to just sit back and let them continue to erode away at the Power of the People? Or, will you take a stand, as the founders intended you to do, when your rights are infringed by your own government?

You might say that the Supreme Court protects your rights from executive overreach. But, what do you do when the Supreme Court violates the Constitution ... or "interprets it" in their own, deceiptful and power-hungry manner?

Indeed, should 9 people in black robes in Washington even have that much power, to begin with? They seem to feel that they can interpret the Constitution any old way that they want, without being held accountable.

I say, no. The time has come for State Nullification powers, as well as local and grass roots enforcement of the Constitution. When federal officials, even the President or the SCOTUS, violate their Oathes of Office and the Constitution itself, someone has to hold them accountable and prevent the kinds of federal atrocities that occured at Waco, TX in 1993.