LDSs support of Secret Combinations

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This question for your consideration was motivated by the recent discussions about Sunday School Lesson 46. In what ways, by action or inaction, are Latter-day Saints, (hopefully inadvertantly) supporting the agendas of the secret combination that is destroying the US Constitution and our constitutional government and converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitutional Republic into a servile member state of a one-world dictatorship ?

For openers, I suggest the following:

We have neglected the admonitions of prophets and apostles to study, uphold, and abide by the principles of the US Constitution "in the tradition of the Founding Fathers", or as the Lord, who established it, intended it to be understood.

"And now, verily I say unto you concerning the laws of the land, it is my will that my people should observe to do all things whatsoever I command them. And that law of the land which is constitutional, supporting that principle of freedom in maintaining rights and privileges, belongs to all mankind, and is justifiable before me. Therefore, I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land" (D&C 98: 4-6)

"...we must learn the principles of the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers." {President Ezra Taft Benson, October 1987 General Conference}

"[T]here appears to me to be a trend to shift responsibility for life and its processes from the individual to the state....The attitude of "something for nothing" is encouraged....Under this climate, people gradually become blind to what has happened and to the vital freedoms which they have lost." (Howard W. Hunter, BYU, 8 March 1966)

"During the first half of the twentieth century we have travelled far into the soul-destroying land of socialism." (David O. McKay, Church News, 18 October 1952)

"We all know that...there has been an alarming increase in the abandoning of the ideals that constitute the foundation of the Constitutiton of the United States and of the American home, and you will agree with me that there is real cause for apprehension." (David O. McKay, October 1966 General Conference)

"...unless the people of America forsake the sins and the errors, political and otherwise, of which they are now guilty and return to the practice of the great fundamental principles of Christianity, and of Constitutional government, there will be no exaltation for them spiritually, and politically we shall lose our liberty and free institutions." (Written statement by Presidents Heber J. Grant, J. Reuben Clark and David O. McKay, 11 October 1941)


We have failed to understand the warnings of secret combinations in our day given us in the Book of Mormon and by latter-day prophets and have not become aware of (awakened to) their modus operandi and goals to attain wealth and control of government and their connection to our "awful situation" today.

"We live in a time of war, that spiritual war that will never end. Moroni warned us that the secret combinations begun by Gadianton ‘are had among all people. . . . Wherefore, O ye Gentiles [and the term gentile in that place in the Book of Mormon refers to us in our generation], it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you. . . . Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you.'" [Ether 8:20, 23–24] (President Boyd K. Packer, August 2010 Ensign Magazine)

"I testify that wickedness is rapidly expanding in every segment of our society. It is more highly organized, more cleverly disguised, and more powerfully promoted than ever before. Secret combinations lusting for power, gain and glory are flourishing. A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations and countries is increasing its evil influence and control over America and the entire world." (President Ezra Taft Benson, October 1988 General Conference)

"Do not think that all these usurpations, intimidations, and impositions are being done to us through inadvertancy or mistake, the whole course is deliberately planned and carried out; its purpose is to destroy the Constitution and our Constitutional government." (President J. Ruben Clark, October 1949 General Conference)


We have not made adequate effort to know history and current events, knowledge of which is essential to understanding the threats that prophets have warned will afflict us in our time. .

"For members of the Church, education is not merely a good idea—it’s a commandment. We are to learn "of things both in heaven and in the earth, and under the earth; things which have been, things which are, which must shortly come to pass; things which are at home, things which are abroad;" (President Dieter F. Uchtdorf October 2009 General Conference}. The remainder of that Verse 79, which was referenced in the published version President Uchtdorf's address, reads "The wars and the perplexities of the nations, and the judgements which are on the land; and a knowledge also of countries and of kingdoms–"


Probably due mostly to pride, we have unwittingly chosen to follow Satan's plan of enslaving each other.

"I, the Lord God, make you free, therefore ye are free indeed; and the law also maketh you free." (D&C 98:8)

"...when we begin to tamper with the Constitution we begin to tamper with the law of Zion which God Himself set up, and no one may trifle with the word of God with impunity." (J. Reuben Clark, October 1942 General Conference)


Please contribute any ideas of your own.

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I appreciate the concern of the post. I think the LDS church does not support secret combinations; but I believe many LDS people support secret combinations. They do this mostly from lack of understanding the scriptures and constitution, and from sheer naivete. For example, in Utah too many people trust the Republican party and it's officials to be "good". From experience I will say it has become a secret combination and those in power reward those who follow them. Those that try to follow constitutional principles chance having their reputations defamed or are threatened, among other things. There are those trying to fight from within, but it is a steep uphill battle. When trying to educate the delegates and districts of constitutional principles those educating are called radicals, and the leadership tells them to not listen.

So, try as we might, unless the majority of the people recognize the combinations and vigorously try to root them out, they are here to stay until the Lord destroys them.

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In addition to the ways already mentioned, I think one is supporting LDGs or partaking in their spoils by:
Accepting a government job.
Accepting government handouts.

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Being disobedient to the basic commandments.

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Not teaching our children how to analyze modern media. If people truly understood the propaganda machine that the US media/military/government is built upon it would scare a lot of our inactives back to Church. If one would ask what is most dangerous, porn or prime-time TV I would not really be able to say one over the other. Of course I say that for effect but if one considers the message not genre of "entertainment" then is there anything that would make most TV programs any more suitable for promoting exaltation with our families?

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nearly ALL support the anti-Christ, wolf in sheeps clothing, political Israel/Tel Av iv/Bernanke/ Netanyahoo

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sbsion wrote:nearly ALL support the anti-Christ, wolf in sheeps clothing, political Israel/Tel Av iv/Bernanke/ Netanyahoo
Well, aren't we cheery :|

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Ether 8... says it all... and we are ripe. :( :-s

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I suggest that many people may have supported the "secret combination" by not speaking up during Sunday School Lesson 46 about Moroni's warning about the secret combinations begun by Gadianton and the commandment that "...when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you.'" and to "suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you". It appears that many SS teachers, including ours, skated around that topic, avoiding it completely.

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It seems a lot of Mormons don't realize and don't care that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and the USA PATRIOT Act (Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism) both significantly veer from Constitutional protections. Nor do they realize nor care that mandatory health care is compulsory and only exists by mandate and thus invades individual rights and desires for free choice of coverage. Far too many support these things.

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It seems plain that for the Lord's reasons our Church leaders are staying silent on secret combinations. But even so I'd like to see something, anything from them. Ideally, I'd like to see President Monson, in his main General Conference address, look straight at the membership of the world and quote this scripture:
For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward. (D&C 58:26)
Then I'd like him to say something to the effect of "I want all of you to look at the way the world is. Don't wait for government or religious leaders or the media to tell you what's going on and how you should feel about it. I want you to see, to understand for yourselves what is happening around you. Then do something about it. The Lord's will is that we teach you correct principles then leave it to you to govern yourselves. We've endeavored our best to do the first, now keep the Lord's commandments and do the second."

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jeanpierre wrote:It seems a lot of Mormons don't realize and don't care that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and the USA PATRIOT Act (Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism) both significantly veer from Constitutional protections. Nor do they realize nor care that mandatory health care is compulsory and only exists by mandate and thus invades individual rights and desires for free choice of coverage. Far too many support these things.
Most are indistinguishable from the Average WalMart-shopping American who trusts the government to tell them the truth and is more concerned with who wins American Idol than being concerned with any domestic or foreign policy.

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Fairminded wrote:It seems plain that for the Lord's reasons our Church leaders are staying silent on secret combinations. But even so I'd like to see something, anything from them. Ideally, I'd like to see President Monson, in his main General Conference address, look straight at the membership of the world and quote this scripture:
For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward. (D&C 58:26)
Then I'd like him to say something to the effect of "I want all of you to look at the way the world is. Don't wait for government or religious leaders or the media to tell you what's going on and how you should feel about it. I want you to see, to understand for yourselves what is happening around you. Then do something about it. The Lord's will is that we teach you correct principles then leave it to you to govern yourselves. We've endeavored our best to do the first, now keep the Lord's commandments and do the second."
Oh I think the brethren have been telling us but have we had "ears to hear". Here are just a few examples...

President Packer April and Oct 2012 Ensign/Liahona from a Seminary CES broadcast January 2012:
There are other things we could add to the list, but you know what you should and should not be doing in your life. You know right and wrong and do not need to be commanded in all things
..............

People now, to a large extent, are tempted to surrender their agency or independence and replace it with the word entitlement. They expect that everything will be freely provided for them. If that pattern is in your thinking, get rid of it. If you want to be happy, you must pay the price through obedience. The restraints that you face against wrongdoing are an enormous protection for you


http://www.lds.org/broadcasts/article/s ... +things%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.lds.org/liahona/2012/10/how- ... +things%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


October 2012 Ensign Quentin L Cook:
In my view, those of you in the rising generation are better prepared than any previous generation. Your knowledge of the scriptures is particularly impressive. However, the challenges your generation faces as you prepare for service are similar to those faced by all members of the Church. We are all aware the culture in most of the world is not conducive to righteousness or spiritual commitment. Throughout history, Church leaders have warned the people and taught repentance. In the Book of Mormon, Alma the Younger was so concerned about unrighteousness and lack of commitment that he resigned as chief judge, the leader of the people of Nephi, and concentrated all his efforts on his prophetic calling.

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2 ... ry=warning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

President Eyring talk on warning others April 2009 Ensign:
You may have been the only one to sense by inspiration the warning cry. The others may feel, as you will be tempted to think, “Maybe the trouble I thought I saw is just my imagination. What right do I have to judge another? It’s not my responsibility. I’ll leave it alone until he asks for help.”................
First, you are under covenant, as has been made clear to you, that when you accepted the trust from God to receive the priesthood, you accepted a responsibility for whatever you might do or fail to do for the salvation of others however difficult and dangerous that might appear to be for you.


http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2 ... ry=warning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

go to lds.org and type the word warn or warning into the search field...lots of hits

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The Prophet and Apostles have already warned us. Ezra Taft Benson used that very scripture from D&C 58 to begin his conference address in 1965. I have heard from reliable sources who have and are in contact with the Prophet and Apostles that they are through warning us. We have been warned since the restoration of the gospel, and in the scriptures. I believe it is up to each one of us to warn our neighbors, and in sunday school not all teachers are skirting around the issue. I have been teaching these things all year long, and I am going to return to it again this sunday. I am thinking of starting my lesson by reading "The Secrets of the Melbourne Man." What do you think?

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karend77 wrote:
Fairminded wrote:It seems plain that for the Lord's reasons our Church leaders are staying silent on secret combinations. But even so I'd like to see something, anything from them. Ideally, I'd like to see President Monson, in his main General Conference address, look straight at the membership of the world and quote this scripture:
For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward. (D&C 58:26)
Then I'd like him to say something to the effect of "I want all of you to look at the way the world is. Don't wait for government or religious leaders or the media to tell you what's going on and how you should feel about it. I want you to see, to understand for yourselves what is happening around you. Then do something about it. The Lord's will is that we teach you correct principles then leave it to you to govern yourselves. We've endeavored our best to do the first, now keep the Lord's commandments and do the second."
Oh I think the brethren have been telling us but have we had "ears to hear". Here are just a few examples...

President Packer April and Oct 2012 Ensign/Liahona from a Seminary CES broadcast January 2012:
There are other things we could add to the list, but you know what you should and should not be doing in your life. You know right and wrong and do not need to be commanded in all things
..............

People now, to a large extent, are tempted to surrender their agency or independence and replace it with the word entitlement. They expect that everything will be freely provided for them. If that pattern is in your thinking, get rid of it. If you want to be happy, you must pay the price through obedience. The restraints that you face against wrongdoing are an enormous protection for you


http://www.lds.org/broadcasts/article/s ... +things%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.lds.org/liahona/2012/10/how- ... +things%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


October 2012 Ensign Quentin L Cook:
In my view, those of you in the rising generation are better prepared than any previous generation. Your knowledge of the scriptures is particularly impressive. However, the challenges your generation faces as you prepare for service are similar to those faced by all members of the Church. We are all aware the culture in most of the world is not conducive to righteousness or spiritual commitment. Throughout history, Church leaders have warned the people and taught repentance. In the Book of Mormon, Alma the Younger was so concerned about unrighteousness and lack of commitment that he resigned as chief judge, the leader of the people of Nephi, and concentrated all his efforts on his prophetic calling.

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2 ... ry=warning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

President Eyring talk on warning others April 2009 Ensign:
You may have been the only one to sense by inspiration the warning cry. The others may feel, as you will be tempted to think, “Maybe the trouble I thought I saw is just my imagination. What right do I have to judge another? It’s not my responsibility. I’ll leave it alone until he asks for help.”................
First, you are under covenant, as has been made clear to you, that when you accepted the trust from God to receive the priesthood, you accepted a responsibility for whatever you might do or fail to do for the salvation of others however difficult and dangerous that might appear to be for you.


http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2 ... ry=warning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

go to lds.org and type the word warn or warning into the search field...lots of hits


True, the prophets have given plenty of warnings. I'm just afraid that our current willfully blind society isn't equipped to hear subtle warnings. The prophets of old had to be VERY direct with their warnings to wicked societies, and we saw quite a bit of that in earlier years. But those sorts of blatant warnings are several decades in the past.

So have we reached the points where the prophets have pulled out and left the wicked to their destruction? If so how does that square with the promise that the Church will never again be taken from the earth?

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I am troubled because new members of the Church and younger adults have not heard the admonitions and warnings to study, uphold, and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, to understand the warnings of secret combinations in our day, and to make adequate effort to know history and current events, knowledge of which is essential to understanding the threats that prophets have warned will afflict us in our time. Many members, when exposed to these admonitions and warnings, express intent ot ignore them unless and until they come from leadership. I can only hope that the Spirit is working on these new and young members such that they will somehow recognize promptings of the spirit to take action on these things and not wait to be" commanded in all things".

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Fiannan wrote:
jeanpierre wrote:It seems a lot of Mormons don't realize and don't care that the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and the USA PATRIOT Act (Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism) both significantly veer from Constitutional protections. Nor do they realize nor care that mandatory health care is compulsory and only exists by mandate and thus invades individual rights and desires for free choice of coverage. Far too many support these things.
Most are indistinguishable from the Average WalMart-shopping American who trusts the government to tell them the truth and is more concerned with who wins American Idol than being concerned with any domestic or foreign policy.
This... and my own Mother is one of them. :ymblushing: But I still love and appreciate her. :ymhug:

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lundbaek wrote:I am troubled because new members of the Church and younger adults have not heard the admonitions and warnings to study, uphold, and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, to understand the warnings of secret combinations in our day, and to make adequate effort to know history and current events, knowledge of which is essential to understanding the threats that prophets have warned will afflict us in our time. Many members, when exposed to these admonitions and warnings, express intent ot ignore them unless and until they come from leadership. I can only hope that the Spirit is working on these new and young members such that they will somehow recognize promptings of the spirit to take action on these things and not wait to be" commanded in all things".
It is, at least to a degree. Ron Paul helped A LOT with it.
On the other hand, it drives others away.
It's a splitter, for sure. There are converts, though.

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Benjamin Harrison wrote:I am thinking of starting my lesson by reading "The Secrets of the Melbourne Man." What do you think?
You're gonna read "The Secrets of AussieOi"? ;) JK - I think he's in Sydney actually. All I know is that if a lesson like that started out in our ward, you'd have about 1/4 of the Elders disinterested because they're constantly checking NFL scores using the net on their phones or simply surfing. :ymapplause: #-o

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Maybe I will make alot of copies so they can focus.

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Benjamin Harrison wrote:Maybe I will make alot of copies so they can focus.
give them the url, let them go there on their phones--keep them from checking the football scores... :D

http://www.latterdayconservative.com/ar ... -fireside/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But who is this guy? Substantiated/ second witness (I doubt it)? Etc.
Good stuff to think about anyway.

Please everyone, say something when you get to Ether 8!! STIR AND SHAKE THE GIANT AWAKE!

(unless, of course, you already got there)

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Nan and anybody else, would you include 1.) ignoring the admonitions of prophets and apostles to study, uphold, and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, 2.) ignoring the warnings of secret combinations in our day given us in the Book of Mormon and by latter-day prophets, and 3.) not making adequate effort to know history and current events, in being disobedient to the basic commandments. Ref. Lundbaek's opening post. Lundbaek and I are having our own private discussion on this and agree yes but our wives both agree no, these are not basic commandments.

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jeanpierre wrote:Nan and anybody else, would you include 1.) ignoring the admonitions of prophets and apostles to study, uphold, and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, 2.) ignoring the warnings of secret combinations in our day given us in the Book of Mormon and by latter-day prophets, and 3.) not making adequate effort to know history and current events, in being disobedient to the basic commandments. Ref. Lundbaek's opening post. Lundbaek and I are having our own private discussion on this and agree yes but our wives both agree no, these are not basic commandments.
I agree with you , not the wives. We are supporting the secret combinations, not overtly, but by your 1-2-3 list above. It is more a sin of omission- a failure to do something one can and ought to do.

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jeanpierre wrote:Nan and anybody else, would you include 1.) ignoring the admonitions of prophets and apostles to study, uphold, and abide by the principles of the US Constitution, 2.) ignoring the warnings of secret combinations in our day given us in the Book of Mormon and by latter-day prophets, and 3.) not making adequate effort to know history and current events, in being disobedient to the basic commandments. Ref. Lundbaek's opening post. Lundbaek and I are having our own private discussion on this and agree yes but our wives both agree no, these are not basic commandments.
Even moreso is the simple fact that secret combinations/false churches/pride of the world are traceable by false doctrines.

What encourages man to BOTH believe in Christ and do good is of God, if it does not contain either or both of these conditions, it is not of God.



12 Wherefore, all things which are agood cometh of God; and that which is bevil cometh of the devil; for the devil is an enemy unto God, and fighteth against him continually, and inviteth and enticeth to csin, and to do that which is evil continually.

13 But behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do agood continually; wherefore, every thing which inviteth and benticeth to do good, and to love God, and to serve him, is inspired of God.


False Doctrines

Alma 30, Korihor
1) There is no God
2) Because there is no God, the commandments according to God are not serious offenses, esp. unchastity, in the case of Korihor.
3) The leaders of the Church are lazy, and force your well-earned savings to pay for luxurious lifestyles of theirs.
4) If there is a God, give me some miraculous sign to prove it.

Jacob 7, Sherem

1) There cannot be a Christ, or Messiah, because we cannot foresee what will happen in the future
2) God doesn't perform miracles
3) A precedent for Korihor in demanding signs for proof.

2 Nephi 28, Vain and Foolish Doctrines

1)No God
2) No devil
3) One doesn't need a repentant attitude (Eat, Drink, and be Merry)
4) No miracles anymore
5) All is well
6) No more revelation or scriptures neccessary
7) Anger against "that which is good"

2 Nephi 32
1) Men should not pray. (Source: the Devil himself)

What I find interesting from reading the Book of Mormon is that most of the anti-Mormon, anti-theological, or false religious doctrines used nowadays are pretty much regurgitated from what Nephi, Moroni, and the other BoM prophets foretold would happen, as well as the false doctrines and slander against God used by the earlier forerunners: Sherem and Korihor, it's all nothing new. The important counsel, is to recognize the false doctrines, and find the companionship of the spirit. How is one supposed to recognize the word of the spirit of God, much less the works of evil, without living more in line with God, and not treating God's word as revealed in the scriptures lightly? It's not bright to try otherwise. Right now, the important priorities are outlined quite well at General Conference, they are doctrinal and they are about going out and getting some serious work done for the sake of the Lord, why, because without the companionship, it certainly will be a case of being unprepared spiritually for when the Lord calls us out from the Secret Combinations. It all starts with the doctrines far more than trying to figure out every possible false flag operation out there.

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Secret combinations are the result of several paradigm shifts that either the people or our leaders have allowed themselves to be led by the adversary into. The primary means toward a society's degeneration are personal worthiness, the subtle rationalization away from constitutional principles, and the yoke of financial bondage and military conquest.

The media has so conditioned our perspectives towards these issues and of course the false choices they blatantly parade in front of us, that we are almost always kept off balance. That being "who deceiveth the whole world' is a formidable opponent, let us not take him lightly. We must do all we can to battle him with true principles every way we possibly can.

First of all then, we have to know these principles to aid us in waging war against the adversary. The gospel, scriptures, church leaders have given us many of them already. We can also go to the Lord to guide us to those that have not been revealed. Most of us already know this but the task seems so overwhelming that we become discouraged before we even start.

Getting gain and power or more specifically ill gotten gain and unrighteous power seem to me to be the adversary's primary agenda. This unrighteous foundation must be attacked. Drilling down even deeper, money is at the root of it all "the love of money is the root of all evil". Take away the funding for these secret combinations, unrighteous power structures and they can be easily defeated.

I don't believe that the 16th Amendment (Income Tax) and the Federal Reserve Act (both enacted in the same year) was by accident. I also can't believe our political leaders at that time weren't fully aware that these 2 actions wouldn't allow a steady stream of ill gotten wealth to be put into the pockets of the banking establishment and in return a diversion of funds from them into the coffers of our political leaders to keep them in office. I describe the simple solution to reforming our monetary system to de-fund these elitists and bring financial control back to our local communities (I'm just the messenger; Mike Montagne is the author of this system). See "Mathematically Perfected Economy, the solution" in the LDSFF. Please don't judge it until you see just how rock solid its principles really are. It's not Capitalism, nor is it Socialism, but true free market enterprise in its purest form.

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