Native Americans and Northern Europeans related by DNA--

[bobhenstra]

Interesting, relates to the Jaradites!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 151606.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[JohnnyL]

Interesting, relates to the Jaradites!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 151606.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or that they come from brothers, like Ephraim and Manasseh?

[bobhenstra]

Interesting, relates to the Jaradites!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 151606.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or that they come from brothers, like Ephraim and Manasseh?

No, I don't think so, the reference is before Ephraim and Manasseh, even before Abraham. My reasoning is with my application of everything being compared to scriptural events and God's purposes, as in: What's God doing with that star? Or any other subject, such as war, what's God's purpose with this or that war? I ask these questions because, for example, I know who's in charge of the armies of the earth, men may think they are, but God himself tells us he's in charge of the armies of the earth!

Bob

[Rock34]

The only thing surprising to me is how long it took to verify scientifically. I think the "Europeans" came from somewhere around Siberia (Hyperborea) too. It could have been an ancient hub of nations when human-like Elohim settled this planet aeons ago (see creation account in the book of Abraham). I also think Pangaea in some form is real (just look at a map), so there probably wasn't any oceans in between continents back then. I tend to think of the time of the Elohim (Gods) as hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years ago. It was the Golden Age of Greek mythology, a forgotten time in the mists of human memory, when gods dwelt among men. Most traditions of man, albeit poorly preserved through many oral traditions, trace back to a common origin point.

For more finds, look up Kennewick Man and Spirit Cave mummies. To me these are interesting. They date back well before Sumerian civilization (which supposedly came about around 4000 BC). There were also "European" mummies as far east as western China, with tartans, and many of the ancient Celtic symbols on them. This Tarim Basin in China may have been the landing point of the flood of Noah. I don't take the "Ararat" literally. Most flood myths moved the mountain of landing to the highest local mountain. (Abraham's family dwelt for some time near SE Turkey, and the Caucasus.) That's why they are called myths. Something's there, but the details became forgotten and embellished.

I don't count on them confirming Book of Mormon with DNA though. They would have to know what DNA for which they were looking first. How much of the current Native American peoples are descended from Jaredites, Lehites, or some other group entirely? I don't think the morphological differences in appearance and tone described in the Book of Mormon came about through pure divine intervention or chance mutation. They likely occured because Lamanites were at the fringes of Lehite society and intermixed with other peoples on the continent. The Book of Mormon only mentions people that they encountered. If they never encountered Jaredite ruins, they would have never mentioned them. So what if there were people which they never discovered or mentioned as noteworthy, yet still affected the populations of the people on the fringes? Nephite records didn't really know much about what went on in Lamanite communities, beyond the occasional raid or threat. It was much like the Caribbean colonial world's dealing with pirates. The only detailed glimpses come from accounts of escapees.

[JohnnyL]

Interesting, relates to the Jaradites!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 151606.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or that they come from brothers, like Ephraim and Manasseh?

No, I don't think so, the reference is before Ephraim and Manasseh, even before Abraham. My reasoning is with my application of everything being compared to scriptural events and God's purposes, as in: What's God doing with that star? Or any other subject, such as war, what's God's purpose with this or that war? I ask these questions because, for example, I know who's in charge of the armies of the earth, men may think they are, but God himself tells us he's in charge of the armies of the earth!

Bob

Check out the Giants and North American War posts (two are directly linked to, others are on the index page) on the "Notes" thread for relevant info you're talking about.

[Liberty_Agent]

I think they're just misinterpreting evidence for the Solutrean people, who are the indigenous people of the Americas.

[Benjamin_LK]

Interesting, relates to the Jaradites!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 151606.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or that they come from brothers, like Ephraim and Manasseh?

No, I don't think so, the reference is before Ephraim and Manasseh, even before Abraham. My reasoning is with my application of everything being compared to scriptural events and God's purposes, as in: What's God doing with that star? Or any other subject, such as war, what's God's purpose with this or that war? I ask these questions because, for example, I know who's in charge of the armies of the earth, men may think they are, but God himself tells us he's in charge of the armies of the earth!

Bob

Well Bob, just a little tidbit of info, because you and I are both human beings, a minimum of 95% or our DNA and genome is identical, so you could call that closely related RIGHT?!!