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This thread is about Truth and labeling.

Some of my posts have led others to believe that I am involved in a "Sovereign Citizen" movement, that is utterly false. I first learned of said movement in my former profession as a Government employee. Simply put, Government does not like anyone who does not instantly submit to their "authority" without question and without rebuttal. Like it or not, that is a fact.

The Government, in order to maintain its illusion of control over the masses, it needs an enemy, a wolf, a boogie man. So, through the ages, it (in all its forms) created one. Jews have gentiles (and too many others to list).

In the history of this land, the common threat was, for most founding fathers, Jews and Roman Catholics, in fact, most of the colonies has "laws" against Jews and Roman Catholics settling in this land. (Virginia and Maryland were set up for "those people". And with the founding of a central Government, both groups were excluded from being elected officials. Please, look it up before you comment, its historical record.

In our own history as a nation, the boogieman shifted to the Irish, the Polish (depending on where you lived) the "Indian" etc, the Bankers, the Southern States, the Mormons and on and on.

Each group was going to "end" Liberty and the american way and steal your kids, blow up your house, et al.

In no way am I posting that we do not have real enemies, that is why we have the Book of Mormon and the Holy Ghost, to allow us to know the real enemy, which, in the vast majority of cases, is our own sinful and fallen nature. or the Secret oaths and combinations no matter where we find them.

Even when real threats arrive, our defense is not ONLY the violence that must follow, but our own righteousness as a group that keeps us safe, in life or death, victory or defeat.

See Mormon Chapter 3.

WE, as a people, WERE the "threat" in Missouri. We were the enemy, we were the Sovereign Citizens, the Roman Catholics, Jews and Muslims. That we now, point our fingers and judge others without even confirming what they "preach" as being true or Lawful, makes me morn for my nation and frankly, fear the wrath and sword, not of our proclaimed "enemies", but our Creator.

It is the Church membership, ZION (myself included) today that are the REAL threat. Why? Because WE are the salt of the earth, the Church was restored for the reason that the sealing power of the Priesthood (held by scores of men, the priesthood was never taken from man/the earth completely) was brought back to protect this planet from utter destruction by Global warfare.

You want an enemy? A WOLF, a boogie man, look in the mirror, that is where I found mine.

I live in a glass house, this stone is being thrown by me, at me, you are free to comment, as that is why I posted it here.

Thank you.

Lawful wrote:This thread is about Truth and labeling.

Some of my posts have led others to believe that I am involved in a "Sovereign Citizen" movement, that is utterly false. I first learned of said movement in my former profession as a Government employee. Simply put, Government does not like anyone who does not instantly submit to their "authority" without question and without rebuttal. Like it or not, that is a fact.

The Government, in order to maintain its illusion of control over the masses, it needs an enemy, a wolf, a boogie man. So, through the ages, it (in all its forms) created one. Jews have gentiles (and too many others to list).

In the history of this land, the common threat was, for most founding fathers, Jews and Roman Catholics, in fact, most of the colonies has "laws" against Jews and Roman Catholics settling in this land. (Virginia and Maryland were set up for "those people". And with the founding of a central Government, both groups were excluded from being elected officials. Please, look it up before you comment, its historical record.

In our own history as a nation, the boogieman shifted to the Irish, the Polish (depending on where you lived) the "Indian" etc, the Bankers, the Southern States, the Mormons and on and on.

Each group was going to "end" Liberty and the american way and steal your kids, blow up your house, et al.

In no way am I posting that we do not have real enemies, that is why we have the Book of Mormon and the Holy Ghost, to allow us to know the real enemy, which, in the vast majority of cases, is our own sinful and fallen nature. or the Secret oaths and combinations no matter where we find them.

Even when real threats arrive, our defense is not ONLY the violence that must follow, but our own righteousness as a group that keeps us safe, in life or death, victory or defeat.

See Mormon Chapter 3.

WE, as a people, WERE the "threat" in Missouri. We were the enemy, we were the Sovereign Citizens, the Roman Catholics, Jews and Muslims. That we now, point our fingers and judge others without even confirming what they "preach" as being true or Lawful, makes me morn for my nation and frankly, fear the wrath and sword, not of our proclaimed "enemies", but our Creator.

It is the Church membership, ZION (myself included) today that are the REAL threat. Why? Because WE are the salt of the earth, the Church was restored for the reason that the sealing power of the Priesthood (held by scores of men, the priesthood was never taken from man/the earth completely) was brought back to protect this planet from utter destruction by Global warfare.

You want an enemy? A WOLF, a boogie man, look in the mirror, that is where I found mine.

I live in a glass house, this stone is being thrown by me, at me, you are free to comment, as that is why I posted it here.

Thank you.

I don't recall anyone suggesting you were part of the sovereign citizen movement. Your "lawful money" viewpoint was simply compared to the sovereign citizen movement and personally I suggested that it was equally impractical and doomed to failure.

As to the rest of your post...um...well, I guess I'm glad you got that rant out of your system.

+1

Kaarno wrote:+1

+1 to what?

Fairminded wrote:

Lawful wrote:This thread is about Truth and labeling.

Some of my posts have led others to believe that I am involved in a "Sovereign Citizen" movement, that is utterly false. I first learned of said movement in my former profession as a Government employee. Simply put, Government does not like anyone who does not instantly submit to their "authority" without question and without rebuttal. Like it or not, that is a fact.

The Government, in order to maintain its illusion of control over the masses, it needs an enemy, a wolf, a boogie man. So, through the ages, it (in all its forms) created one. Jews have gentiles (and too many others to list).

In the history of this land, the common threat was, for most founding fathers, Jews and Roman Catholics, in fact, most of the colonies has "laws" against Jews and Roman Catholics settling in this land. (Virginia and Maryland were set up for "those people". And with the founding of a central Government, both groups were excluded from being elected officials. Please, look it up before you comment, its historical record.

In our own history as a nation, the boogieman shifted to the Irish, the Polish (depending on where you lived) the "Indian" etc, the Bankers, the Southern States, the Mormons and on and on.

Each group was going to "end" Liberty and the american way and steal your kids, blow up your house, et al.

In no way am I posting that we do not have real enemies, that is why we have the Book of Mormon and the Holy Ghost, to allow us to know the real enemy, which, in the vast majority of cases, is our own sinful and fallen nature. or the Secret oaths and combinations no matter where we find them.

Even when real threats arrive, our defense is not ONLY the violence that must follow, but our own righteousness as a group that keeps us safe, in life or death, victory or defeat.

See Mormon Chapter 3.

WE, as a people, WERE the "threat" in Missouri. We were the enemy, we were the Sovereign Citizens, the Roman Catholics, Jews and Muslims. That we now, point our fingers and judge others without even confirming what they "preach" as being true or Lawful, makes me morn for my nation and frankly, fear the wrath and sword, not of our proclaimed "enemies", but our Creator.

It is the Church membership, ZION (myself included) today that are the REAL threat. Why? Because WE are the salt of the earth, the Church was restored for the reason that the sealing power of the Priesthood (held by scores of men, the priesthood was never taken from man/the earth completely) was brought back to protect this planet from utter destruction by Global warfare.

You want an enemy? A WOLF, a boogie man, look in the mirror, that is where I found mine.

I live in a glass house, this stone is being thrown by me, at me, you are free to comment, as that is why I posted it here.

Thank you.

I don't recall anyone suggesting you were part of the sovereign citizen movement
Just because you do not "recall it" does not mean it did not happen, because it did.
Your "lawful money" viewpoint was simply compared to the sovereign citizen movement and personally I suggested that it was equally impractical and doomed to failure.

Where are you getting that "lawful money" is somehow MY idea? Read this:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/12/411" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As to the rest of your post...um...well, I guess I'm glad you got that rant out of your system.

Definition of 'Lawful Money'
Any form of currency issued by the United States Treasury and not the Federal Reserve System, including gold and silver coins, Treasury notes, and Treasury bonds. Lawful money stands in contrast to fiat money, to which the government assigns value although it has no intrinsic value of its own and is not backed by reserves. Fiat money includes legal tender such as paper money, checks, drafts and bank notes.

Also known as "specie", which means "in actual form."

Investopedia explains 'Lawful Money'
Oddly enough, the dollar bills that we carry around in our wallets are not considered lawful money. The notation on the bottom of a U.S. dollar bill reads "Legal Tender for All Debts, Public and Private", and is issued by the U.S. Federal Reserve, not the U.S. Treasury. Legal tender can be exchanged for an equivalent amount of lawful money, but effects such as inflation can change the value of fiat money. Lawful money is said to be the most direct form of ownership, but for purposes of practicality it has little use in direct transactions between parties anymore.

Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/law ... z2866si1J3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I suppose now Investopedia, the Cornell Law Library, Congress and the Federal reserve are just my "theory" as well. Is this forum a joke?

Frankly, I am embarrassed that I have suggested this forum to other researchers and people to discuss this principle. I actually suggested it because I thought members of the Church would have some respect for

redemption (rɪˈdɛmpʃən)

— n
1. the act or process of redeeming
2. the state of being redeemed
3. Christianity
a. deliverance from sin through the incarnation, sufferings, and death of Christ
b. atonement for guilt
4. conversion of paper money into bullion or specie
5. a. removal of a financial obligation by paying off a note, bond, etc

I suppose the dictionary is in on the scam too or was the word "redeemed" used by mistake in Title 12 of the United States Code?

Come on people, really?

The words "buy" and "sale" are ancient Nordic words and come from the practices of people who keep their commitments to each other, in their commonwealth culture, to their Church, and to their God, these words traditionally have nothing to do with the concept of money.

The word "law" is an ancient Nordic word that means "look." When Jesus visited the lost tribes of Israel in the north, he told them to, "Look unto Me (virtue)" and this culture of looking to Him/virtue is the culture of Law. For something to become lawful it must have been determined by a jury that that thing is part of looking to Jesus (virtue).

Money is part of the Orthodox Religion and Babylonian Statecraft Government. Money cannot ever be Lawful, at best money can be a fiction and proxy for real wealth issuing from the commitments (good faith) of the people.

See the History of Money parts 1 and 2
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... part_1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... part_2.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Story of Our Law for Little Children and Work Together by the Law
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... ur_law.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... he_law.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The only true Sovereign Citizens are those who "Work Together by the Law."

God Bless,
Darren

Darren wrote:The words "buy" and "sale" are ancient Nordic words and come from the practices of people who keep their commitments to each other, in their commonwealth culture, to their Church, society and to their God, these words traditionally have nothing to do with the concept of money.

The word "law" is an ancient Nordic word that means "look." When Jesus visited the lost tribes of Israel in the north, he told them to, "Look unto Me (virtue)" and this culture of looking to Him/virtue is the culture of Law. For something to be lawful it must have been determined by a jury that that thing is part of looking to Jesus (virtue).

Money is part of the religion of the Greco/Roman Pagan Goddess Moneta, and is part of the arm of flesh controls of the Empire. Money is part of that Orthodoxy System, as promoted in Babylonian Statecraft Government. Money cannot ever be Lawful, at best money can be a fiction and proxy for real wealth from the commitments of the people.

See the History of Money parts 1 and 2
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... part_1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... part_2.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and Work Together by the Law
http://s98822910.onlinehome.us/thousand ... he_law.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The only true Sovereign Citizens are those who "Work Together by the Law."

God Bless,
Darren

Thank you Darren. That was actually a response! I might explain that there are "laws" that are just. Money can be lawful because we, with Creator endowed rights and powers can "agree on the value of anything as being money". There is nothing unlawful about that, nor is there anything unlawful about defining and assigning things of actual value (took work or skill) a defined value and call it "money".

Although I have found no evidence that Jesus ever touched money, he did, have a group treasurer (Judas) and directed the Temple tax of his day be paid. He had that payment in His name, in Gold coins redeemed from the sea. For those with eyes to see, that is a powerful metaphor on lawful money redemption.

What can be unlawful about money is when a "thing" of NO actual value (pretty paper with numbers on it) backed by nothing but promises and the labor of other people to back it, is lawful ONLY with your acceptance (quasi-contract agreement) and YOUR promise to pay the amount agreed upon at some future date, not with "money" but with "goods and services" at a negotiable "value" plus interest. That is not really a fair agreement to those using the NOTES as 'money'. But the notes we are talking about "Federal reserve notes" were never issued to be used by you and I, they were for inter and intra bank transactions. To be later "redeemed in lawful money".

Like it or not, Congress has the power to "coin money and set the value thereof" granted to it in their Constitution, so money can be lawful as issued, without anything or anyone else agreeing to its value

Thank you for the links, I will watch them and I appreciated the history and definition of the words, I will check those out too.

Lawful wrote: Thank you Darren. That was actually a response! I might explain that there are "laws" that are just. Money can be lawful because we, with Creator endowed rights and powers can "agree on the value of anything as being money". There is nothing unlawful about that, nor is there anything unlawful about defining and assigning things of actual value (took work or skill) a defined value and call it "money".

Although I have found no evidence that Jesus ever touched money, he did, have a group treasurer (Judas) and directed the Temple tax of his day be paid. He had that payment in His name, in Gold coins redeemed from the sea. For those with eyes to see, that is a powerful metaphor on lawful money redemption.

What can be unlawful about money is when a "thing" of NO actual value (pretty paper with numbers on it) backed by nothing but promises and the labor of other people to back it, is lawful ONLY with your acceptance (quasi-contract agreement) and YOUR promise to pay the amount agreed upon at some future date, not with "money" but with "goods and services" at a negotiable "value" plus interest. That is not really a fair agreement to those using the NOTES as 'money'. But the notes we are talking about "Federal reserve notes" were never issued to be used by you and I, they were for inter and intra bank transactions. To be later "redeemed in lawful money".

Like it or not, Congress has the power to "coin money and set the value thereof" granted to it in their Constitution, so money can be lawful as issued, without anything or anyone else agreeing to its value

Thank you for the links, I will watch them and I appreciated the history and definition of the words, I will check those out too.

Words themselves may be used as proxy for thoughts. True language are the thoughts themselves. The writing system of China, has for thousands of years, established that the basis of language is the "picturable thought." From the babel system (phonetics) they have been promoting that the "audible sound" is the basis of language. To get back to true language we need to be able to understand thoughts themselves, as we can picture them in our on minds, and act upon them with our intelligence.

The material items of this world may be used as proxy for human energy. Human energy is pure as it is seeking virtue and is the only true unit for Buying and Selling, it's value is represented by the oath and covenant, and in the simplest form is represented as a contract. In the Temple we Sell the only possession we actually have, our will/intelligence, for the only thing Intelligences can be traded for, Eternal Life through the Great Mediator.

Before money became the great lie it is today, language has been the inductive exchange of thoughts and human energy has been exchanged as virtuous commitments.

God Bless,
Darren

Darren wrote:

Lawful wrote: Thank you Darren. That was actually a response! I might explain that there are "laws" that are just. Money can be lawful because we, with Creator endowed rights and powers can "agree on the value of anything as being money". There is nothing unlawful about that, nor is there anything unlawful about defining and assigning things of actual value (took work or skill) a defined value and call it "money".

Although I have found no evidence that Jesus ever touched money, he did, have a group treasurer (Judas) and directed the Temple tax of his day be paid. He had that payment in His name, in Gold coins redeemed from the sea. For those with eyes to see, that is a powerful metaphor on lawful money redemption.

What can be unlawful about money is when a "thing" of NO actual value (pretty paper with numbers on it) backed by nothing but promises and the labor of other people to back it, is lawful ONLY with your acceptance (quasi-contract agreement) and YOUR promise to pay the amount agreed upon at some future date, not with "money" but with "goods and services" at a negotiable "value" plus interest. That is not really a fair agreement to those using the NOTES as 'money'. But the notes we are talking about "Federal reserve notes" were never issued to be used by you and I, they were for inter and intra bank transactions. To be later "redeemed in lawful money".

Like it or not, Congress has the power to "coin money and set the value thereof" granted to it in their Constitution, so money can be lawful as issued, without anything or anyone else agreeing to its value

Thank you for the links, I will watch them and I appreciated the history and definition of the words, I will check those out too.

Words themselves may be used as proxy for thoughts. True language are the thoughts themselves. The writing system of China, has for thousands of years, established that the basis of language is the "picturable thought." From the babel system (phonetics) they have been promoting that the "audible sound" is the basis of language. To get back to true language we need to be able to understand thoughts themselves, as we can picture them in our on minds, and act upon them with our intelligence.

The material items of this world may be used as proxy for human energy. Human energy is pure as it is seeking virtue and is the only true unit for Buying and Selling, it is the Oath, or the contract. In the Temple we Sell the only possession we actually have, our will/intelligence, for the only thing Intelligences can be traded for, Eternal Life through the Great Mediator.

Before money, language was thoughts and human energy was traded as commitments.

God Bless,
Darren

A pure Adamic language, yes. There was no way to "misunderstand" another with a perfect language. That in fact, is why that language was "confounded" at the Tower. The concept of miss-under-standing is used as a tool of control by those who know how to manipulate language, written or spoken.

The way I understand the concept behind the words "full faith and credit of the United States" it is in fact, their control over human energy, which directly feeds the beast system in Washington, Vatican City and London City, in effect you are saying the Great Whore/Beast that sits upon the many waters is being fed the only real currency, human energy, if that is the case, I completely agree with your "image of the Beast" being relayed to me.

Just as the "matrix" is a visual representation of the semi-sentient BEAST feeding of the energy of actual bodies, their unwitting avatars go though life with no open eyes, minds or ears, a direct feed of information directly into the brain of the actual body, which sleeps.

What you are "showing" me is what I have known for most of my life and has always been confirmed as I grew in truth and light. This control is not of this world, it predates this world and will exist after this world, money or no money. To my mind, the best word description of the collective energy of mankind can only be a form of "priesthood".

Lucifer temps man with things of this world and things NOT of this world (Cain was offered and given Reign of all Lucifer had) while Christ was only offered "all the Kingdoms" of THIS world. Why was that?

Lawful wrote: A pure Adamic language, yes. There was no way to "misunderstand" another with a perfect language. That in fact, is why that language was "confounded" at the Tower. The concept of miss-under-standing is used as a tool of control by those who know how to manipulate language, written or spoken.

Pure Adamic language, inductive in nature, is how we understand the whisperings of the Holy Ghost. The proxies to pure language are where the abominations begin to come from. In the spirit world we began to use our deductive reasoning, as some used that to abandon their inductive seeking, to instead follow the false thinking of Lucifer. Seeking virtue must maintain control over the use of language arts, dialog, and rhetoric for hope of true communication.

The same is true for pure economic intercourse, everything is the Lord's and we enjoy everything in common through our stewardships. Stewardships in 10s, 50s, 100s, and 1000s in the Kingdom are the structure, covenants/contracts are the facilitator. Money is a deductive proxy for inductive, virtue seeking, human energy. Corporations use covenants and contracts, they may also use money, but that is not necessary, for economic intercourse in a company or commonwealth of companies. And it is with money where abominations come from, when covenants and contracts to work together in good faith/virtuous seeking are replaced with the proxies of doubting man's thinking.

The word "faith" in the phrase full faith and credit, does not explain very well that inductive act necessary to be virtuous. The word "look" as in the mental looking represented in the word "remember," works better for what the word faith here is trying to mean, that act that if targeted to goodness/virtue is truly Lawful. The phrase in the covenant "Always Remember Him" from the sacrament prayers is the "full faith and credit" phrase of the LDS people that if done is the only true medium of control over human energy, virtuous self-control.

We use money to represent the false "faith," that we have to the deductive system, the Orthodox System.

Lawful wrote:The way I understand the concept behind the words "full faith and credit of the United States" it is in fact, their control over human energy, which directly feeds the beast system in Washington, Vatican City and London City, in effect you are saying the Great Whore/Beast that sits upon the many waters is being fed the only real currency, human energy, if that is the case, I completely agree with your "image of the Beast" being relayed to me.

Just as the "matrix" is a visual representation of the semi-sentient BEAST feeding of the energy of actual bodies, their unwitting avatars go though life with no open eyes, minds or ears, a direct feed of information directly into the brain of the actual body, which sleeps.

What you are "showing" me is what I have known for most of my life and has always been confirmed as I grew in truth and light. This control is not of this world, it predates this world and will exist after this world, money or no money. To my mind, the best word description of the collective energy of mankind can only be a form of "priesthood".

Lucifer temps man with things of this world and things NOT of this world (Cain was offered and given Reign of all Lucifer had) while Christ was only offered "all the Kingdoms" of THIS world. Why was that?

At the end of the temple endowment is the phrase, "Power in the Priesthood," which comes to us as we work together by the Law, "looking to Jesus." And as a steward in the Kingdom we have power over all things, and are given eternal life. The "matrix" is Lucifer getting us to second guess our intelligence's seeking and instead give our power over to his systems of control.

God Bless,
Darren

Agreed, Darren and amen.

Lawfull the +1 was me agreeing with fairminded.

You two agree that a 30-50% instant pay raise from the Treasury itself is impractical?

David Merrill wrote:You two agree that a 30-50% instant pay raise from the Treasury itself is impractical?

Or they agree that judging others because of beliefs they do not agree with or is not the cultural majority is perfectly okay.

You're going to call me out after sending me a PM to quit posting on your threads, a request I've honored up to this point?

Well I'll continue to honor it, so there's no need to get huffy. Don't call me out again.

Did we just have a "back to high school" moment on this thread?

So is this a Liberal forum or a Conservative one? Because most post here read like something to be found on Revleft. Extreme, irrational Leftist rhetoric with little basis in reality.

Anyways, I'll try to debunk some of this nonsense. The Islamic world, which we supposedly have an irrational fear of, has been attacking Western Civilization for over 1,000 years. The great Byzantine Empire was completely lost to Mohammedans. Iberia was captured for 8 centuries. The Frankish Empire was almost completely taken over by Islam but spared due to the Battle of Tours. The racial make-up and culture of North Africa was completely changed. The land of Augustine became the land of Mohammad Abradurka. Now today, Muslims flood Western countries, don't respect the culture, and act like barbarians. There is no 'tolerance' needed. They are of inferior racial stock and hold a culture that doesn't respect women, animals, or anything really. There's no reason to have Muslims in western nations, save for people like Albanians.

Not sure why you bring up Jews. Just about every on this board seems to worship Jews and believes them to be some sort of Master Race. And the Vatican actually has ended up being an invasive entity in the United States. They are one of the leading churches promoting illegal immigration, right up there with the LDS church. Who cares about race, culture, and nation when you have money?

Liberty_Agent wrote:Anyways, I'll try to debunk some of this nonsense. The Islamic world, which we supposedly have an irrational fear of, has been attacking Western Civilization for over 1,000 years. The great Byzantine Empire was completely lost to Mohammedans. Iberia was captured for 8 centuries. The Frankish Empire was almost completely taken over by Islam but spared due to the Battle of Tours. The racial make-up and culture of North Africa was completely changed. The land of Augustine became the land of Mohammad Abradurka. Now today, Muslims flood Western countries, don't respect the culture, and act like barbarians. There is no 'tolerance' needed. They are of inferior racial stock and hold a culture that doesn't respect women, animals, or anything really. There's no reason to have Muslims in western nations, save for people like Albanians.

Not sure why you bring up Jews. Just about every on this board seems to worship Jews and believes them to be some sort of Master Race. And the Vatican actually has ended up being an invasive entity in the United States. They are one of the leading churches promoting illegal immigration, right up there with the LDS church. Who cares about race, culture, and nation when you have money?

Muhammad was illiterate and could not have written the Koran. Those of us who have read the Koran from cover to cover easily see who wrote the Koran. The Koran was written by the Pharisees operating out of Constantinople as an Orthodox designed religion to help destroy the Christian Church of the North.

Jews today are the patriarchal decedents of the Huns with a false Religion also fabricated by the Pharisees, as did also these Pharisees work with Diocletian and his successor Constantine to design the false Religion of the Roman Catholic Assembly. All three religions have their roots in the statement by Socrates that, "Virtue cannot be taught." This is the craft of the Pharisees, to set up and operate Satan's State.

But knowing these truths about the fraud perpetuated upon the world today by the Apostate and his Assembly is only a side show to understanding the truths of the Gospel, and how to organize Zion as our Anglo/Saxon ancestors did.

God Bless,
Darren

That is true, the latest genetic research actually shows modern day Ashkenazis to have more of a caucasian (as in Georgian, Armenian, Khazar, etc..) origin than a Levantine one. The study came out last September and has been accepted by the mainstream, which is actually pretty surprising. The "khazar hypothesis" isn't a fringe belief anymore, that's for sure. And yes, the Rabbinical religion really took off in 70 A.D. after Mosaic Judaism completely collapsed. And the earliest written Talmud dates back to the Middle Ages.

It's still amazes me that there are people calling us 'paranoid' for questioning Islam or Muslim immigration. What is this-- Revleft? I guess the historically ignorant bunch have never heard of the battle of Tours, 1 million Europeans in the Islamic slave trade, fall of Byzantines, Moors, or the 1,000 year long war of Islam attacking Christendom. Sorry, I'm not a little girly man that trashes my ancestors for some desert religion that has done nothing but harm our civilization. Have fun spewing your cancerous rhetoric with your libtard friends, I'm out of here. Bit too much self-hatred and leftist rhetoric for me.

Liberty_Agent wrote:That is true, the latest genetic research actually shows modern day Ashkenazis to have more of a caucasian (as in Georgian, Armenian, Khazar, etc..) origin than a Levantine one. The study came out last September and has been accepted by the mainstream, which is actually pretty surprising. The "khazar hypothesis" isn't a fringe belief anymore, that's for sure. And yes, the Rabbinical religion really took off in 70 A.D. after Mosaic Judaism completely collapsed. And the earliest written Talmud dates back to the Middle Ages.

It's still amazes me that there are people calling us 'paranoid' for questioning Islam or Muslim immigration. What is this-- Revleft? I guess the historically ignorant bunch have never heard of the battle of Tours, 1 million Europeans in the Islamic slave trade, fall of Byzantines, Moors, or the 1,000 year long war of Islam attacking Christendom. Sorry, I'm not a little girly man that trashes my ancestors for some desert religion that has done nothing but harm our civilization. Have fun spewing your cancerous rhetoric with your libtard friends, I'm out of here. Bit too much self-hatred and leftist rhetoric for me.

I have to agree. Most people in the LDS Church go along with the Israel Agenda at the expense of their own Anglo-American Heritage.

We have a sure connection to the only true Culture, yet the false Culture is embraced. Cleansing coming.

God Bless,
Darren