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I've heard her name brought up a bunch. I saw 2 minutes of an interview with her on tv once. Who is this lady and why is she so popular?mingano wrote:And wait a second... why is Aussie even reading Joanna Brooks? And to actually recommend her? Uh, no thanks. People need to come closer to the church, not seduced away by that siren.
I also disagreed with what he said about this. He made light of Christ's greatest commandment and counsel and encouraged further disregard for the greatest principle there is.ajax wrote: 2-Makes fun of the lyrics “all you need is love” in Beatles song in GC as the audience snickers(see Matthew 22:37-40).
But the above items do perturb me a bit and make me go grrrr.
I know he is human and fallible and I shouldn’t expect perfection and that he will not always speak as a prophet, but still.
awake wrote:I also disagreed with what he said about this. He made light of Christ's greatest commandment and counsel and encouraged further disregard for the greatest principle there is.ajax wrote: 2-Makes fun of the lyrics “all you need is love” in Beatles song in GC as the audience snickers(see Matthew 22:37-40).
But the above items do perturb me a bit and make me go grrrr.
I know he is human and fallible and I shouldn’t expect perfection and that he will not always speak as a prophet, but still.
All we need is love/Charity and all will be well with us in the last day and in our marriages.
Joseph Smith said that if we will just have 'love/charity', then we will not be deceived in this life and we will achieve Exaltation and our calling and election made sure.
In a world and Church that doesn't hardly even believe in love anymore and needs to be re-taught how vital it is, I was really disappointed that he said such a thing.
There is no possible way that it is that simple. Even primary kids learn doctrine that clearly state that much more is required.awake wrote:Joseph Smith said that if we will just have 'love/charity', then we will not be deceived in this life and we will achieve Exaltation and our calling and election made sure.
Truly brother. If suggesting a very relevant thread about people feel like they aren't getting any answer to prayer is offensive because the website has girl in the title then I can't help you.mingano wrote:Oh, I wouldn't be so quick to jump on him. If somebody jumps to the conclusion that everything is about gender issues I'm sure there's just a little bit of overcompensation at play.Andrew52 wrote:Is this an insinuation of "Mingano" being feminine? Is this the cause of such anger,
gender issues?
Might I suggest sensitivity in revealing this to the forum Aussie!
(Aussie - what you said was out of line)
I concur.abundanceofwater wrote:The Church is in good hands.
The Church is true.
Amen.
You're distorting the issue again. We can indeed decide on any criteria we choose as to whether someone is 'righteous enough' by our personal standards. That is completely separate of the Lord's criteria, however, which is what I posted about. He tells us he looks upon the heart, which is something we generally don't see. At least you did recognize that factors in pre-mortality play a part. This would explain why at least several teenagers we know of in the scriptures were visited by the Lord personally. It also explains Saul and very possibly the sons of Mosiah and Alma Jr. (partly).awake wrote: That is my belief. And I believe 'it is for us to decide' who is righteous or not around us. So we can protect ourselves from being deceived.
You missed the source of the offense.AussieOi wrote:Truly brother. If suggesting a very relevant thread about people feel like they aren't getting any answer to prayer is offensive because the website has girl in the title then I can't help you.
Could this be the very same Ryan Bundy from southern NV, the brother of Ammon?Ryan Bundy wrote: ↑August 23rd, 2012, 1:53 pmIn the temple there is a room called the "solemn assembly" and another that is called the "Holy of Hollies" These are in the upper floors that most of us have never been in. I was able to peek through the window of the doors going into the solemn assembly room in the St. George T. one time but was not allowed to enter.
Not since 1890, no.Squally wrote: ↑August 19th, 2012, 5:13 pm I have always been taught that the Lord directs this church throught the Prophet. It has been implied and stated quite regularly through my years growing up in the church (seminary, sunday school) that the Savior personally visits with the Prophet to lead and direct His church. Does anyone have any source or statement that our current Prophet has had communion with the Savior (face to face). Or any statements or information on any heavenly manifestations, angelic ministerings, visions, prophecies, thus sayeth the Lord revelations recieved by our current Prophet? If you have any information on this I would appreciate it. Thanks for your help!
GBH had an opportunity to knock it out of the park and bear witness of Jesus Christ, that he is an eyewitness, that he is a special messenger, like Joseph Smith's testimony shows, and GBH delivers the biggest lukewarm dud of all time. He struck out. Didn't even get on base. Seriously, THAT is what a prophet sounds like?? "I don't know." And "Now we don’t need a lot of continuing revelation."BigD wrote: ↑August 19th, 2012, 9:42 pm I did some research a while back as to what some recent Prophets have said in interviews with the media. The following quotes were originally included in a private thread as pertaining to prophesies in the Book of Mormon, which is of NO concern to the present public thread.
I request that everyone ignore all the highlighting and only focus on the actual words. These interviews were from about 15 years ago and are still hosted on some diverse media websites. If interested, you can follow the links to the actual entire interviews. However, the entire interviews MAY NOT be posted on this thread because such would be a COPYRIGHT VIOLATION. Let me repeat, if interested, go read the entire interviews on the media websites.
David Ransom of ABC News Australia posted (maybe conducted) the interview below with President Gordon B. Hinckley.
The San Francisco Gate also has a similar interview with President Gordon B. Hinckley, which appears following the first interview.
ABC News Australia: Interview with President Gordon B. Hinckley wrote:COMPASS
INTERVIEW WITH PRESIDENT GORDON B. HINCKLEY
Aired: November 09, 1997
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RB: As the world leader of the the Church, how are you in touch with God? Can you explain that for me?
GBH: I pray. I pray to Him. Night and morning. I speak with Him. I think He hears my prayers. As He hears the prayers of others. I think He answers them.
RB: But more than that, because you’re leader of the Church. Do you have a special connection?
GBH: I have a special relationship in terms of the Church as an institution. Yes.
RB: And you receive........
GBH: For the entire Church.
RB: You receive?
GBH: Now we don’t need a lot of continuing revelation. We have a great, basic reservoir of revelation. But if a problem arises, as it does occasionally, a vexatious thing with which we have to deal, we go to the Lord in prayer. We discuss it as a First Presidency and as a Council of the Twelve Apostles. We pray about it and then comes the whisperings of a still small voice. And we know the direction we should take and we proceed accordingly.
RB: And this is a Revelation?
GBH: This is a Revelation.
RB: How often have you received such revelations?
GBH: Oh, I don’t know. I feel satisfied that in some circumstances we’ve had such revelation. It’s a very sacred thing that we don’t like to talk about a lot. A very sacred thing.
Q: But it’s a special experience?
GBH: I think it’s a real thing. It’s a very real thing. And a special experience.
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RB: Now up until 1978 I understand Blacks were not allowed to be priests in your Church?
GBH: That is correct. Although we have Black members of the Church. They felt that they would gain more in this Church than any other with which they were acquainted and they were members of the Church. In 1978 we (the president of the Church) received a revelation under which all worthy men would receive all the blessings of the Church available to them as well as to any others. So across the world now we are teaching the Gospel to Blacks, Whites, everyone else who will listen.
RB: So in retrospect was the Church wrong in that?
GBH: No I don’t think it was wrong. It things, various things happened in different periods. There’s a reason for them.
RB: What was the reason for that?
GBH: I don’t know what the reason was. But I know that we’ve rectified whatever may have appeared to be wrong at that time.
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RB: Is it possible that the rules could change in the future as the rules are on Blacks ?
GBH: He could change them yes. If He were to change them that’s the only way it would happen.
RB: So you’d have to get a revelation?
GBH: Yes. But there’s no agitation for that. We don’t find it. Our women are happy. They’re satisfied. These bright, able, wonderful women who administer their own organization are very happy. Ask them. Ask my wife.
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Please don't attack me, the quoter (messenger), if you disagree with what was said in the interview. Whether President Gordon B. Hinckley was being completely "open" about his revelation, I do NOT know.SF Gate: Interview with GBH wrote:...
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Leading the charge is Gordon B. Hinckley. Now 86, Hinckley has been at the highest levels of Mormon power for more than 35 years.
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Q: What do you see as some of the differences between Mormon theology and other Christian theologies?
A: Well, in the first place, it's the restoration itself. The Catholic Church is here, the Protestant churches are outgrowths from the Catholic Church. We are not part of the Catholic Church, and we're not protesting anything. We say that we are a restoration of the church that existed anciently, and that's the reason we have the name "Latter-day Saints." In the early days of the church, back in the days of the Apostles, they were called saints as Christians. We're the latter-day saints. And that's one thing that's different. Modern revelation. We believe all that God has revealed, all that he does now reveal, we believe he has yet to reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God. So, we believe in the principle of continuous revelations.
Q: You are the president, prophet, seer and revelator of the Mormon Church?
A: I am so sustained, yes. (Laughter)
Q: Now, how would that compare to the Catholic Church? Do you see yourself as Catholics would see the pope?
A: Oh, I think in that we're both seen as the head officer of the church, yes.
Q: And this belief in contemporary revelation and prophecy? As the prophet, tell us how that works. How do you receive divine revelation? What does it feel like?
A: Let me say first that we have a great body of revelation, the vast majority of which came from the prophet Joseph Smith. We don't need much revelation. We need to pay more attention to the revelation we've already received.
Now, if a problem should arise on which we don't have an answer, we pray about it, we may fast about it, and it comes. Quietly. Usually no voice of any kind, but just a perception in the mind. I liken it to Elijah's experience. When he sought the Lord, there was a great wind, and the Lord was not in the wind. And there was an earthquake, and the Lord was not in the earthquake. And a fire, and the Lord was not in the fire. But in a still, small voice. Now that's the way it works.
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