Testimony meeting today

[ithink]

None of this will really matter anyway, since Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife is going to win it all because she's the one who attended the Bilderberg mtg in Ottawa in 2006.

But in all seriousness, how the heck would you share the gospel with Ron Paul? You couldn't -- he'd just read the Book of Mormon and come back and say "this can't be YOUR canonized scripture -- your people either haven't read it or they're wilfully blind!?" Either that or he'd give the same response the Hopi gave to Nibley: "we'll come join you when you start living your religion".

[drjme]

None of this will really matter anyway, since Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife is going to win it all because she's the one who attended the Bilderberg mtg in Ottawa in 2006.

I just watched 'endgame' again today and realized this exact thing as I was watching it.

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

or he'd give the same response the Hopi gave to Nibley: "we'll come join you when you start living your religion".

I love that one. And isn't that the truth. All that is required of us it to live our religion, the rest will come out in the wash.

[CHH]

None of this will really matter anyway, since Monica Lewinsky's ex-boyfriend's wife is going to win it all because she's the one who attended the Bilderberg mtg in Ottawa in 2006.

But in all seriousness, how the heck would you share the gospel with Ron Paul? You couldn't -- he'd just read the Book of Mormon and come back and say "this can't be YOUR canonized scripture -- your people either haven't read it or they're wilfully blind!?" Either that or he'd give the same response the Hopi gave to Nibley: "we'll come join you when you start living your religion".

:oops:

That is indeed a problem but then I could say, "Well your people had the Bible and look what they have done with it." I had dinner with Ron Paul in 2006. He is a nice man.

And you are right about Clinton to a point. If she is the Candidate preselected she will be the next president. That is how Bush won even though he lost twice.

[CHH]

or he'd give the same response the Hopi gave to Nibley: "we'll come join you when you start living your religion".

I love that one. And isn't that the truth. All that is required of us it to live our religion, the rest will come out in the wash.

Eschew Socialism is our religion. How many members do that? LOL

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

If you change it to espew socialism than a lot of members do!

[a-train]

We should never "want" to go to war with anyone, but sometimes we have no choice. Do you realize that in the Book of Mormon, and after Captain Moroni had hoisted the "Title of Liberty," that anyone of their people that did not support the cause of freedom were put to death? (Alma 51:7,13-20) A lot of members of the church do not realize this.

OK, so if the US Military is supposed to hunt down and put to death all who do not support the title of liberty, we need to nuke about half the planet.

If it were not for the UN we would have finished the 91 Gulf
Conflict in a proper way. But because of the wickedness of the UN and not wanting to fight, the poor Kurds were slaughtered after we pulled out. Saddam Hussein should have been finished off a long time ago. The Lord be thanked that this wicked man finally died an "Ignominious" death, and that his reign of terror is over. (Thanks to our final invasion of Iraq.)

Perhaps the author is unware of the death toll of this current invasion.

I have some good friends who are directly involved in Afghanistan and Iraq. The cause of freedom is going forward and the terrible terrorists are being thwarted. The people there are so grateful for our help. There is even the possibility of the gospel going there. You never hear this because the liberal media does not want you to know that we are being successful there. Even many members of the church are against freedom going to the Iraqis, and purport all kinds of conspiracies. Yes, there are problems, but what cause of freedom comes free?

I like the fact that the press release for our new First Presidency reminded us that there was a temple behind the Iron Curtain before its fall. Although I don't know any members of the Church who are against freedom in Iraq, I do know many who celebrate the peaceful manner in which the gospel pierced the Iron Curtain.

When Ammoron was fighting against the Nephites, he had been warned by Moroni multiple times (kind of like the 18 UN resolutions that Hussein ignored) Finally, Captain Moroni told him that he would take his armies and even "arm my women and my children" and "we will FOLLOW you into your own land" and we will not stop until you have been "destroyed from off the face of the earth." (Alma 54:4-14)

Didn't we just say that the UN was wicked? Which is it? Is the UN Moroni or Ammoron? And, once again, perhaps this person is down to nuke the whole planet and do baptisms for the dead.

-a-train

[CHH]

OK, so if the US Military is supposed to hunt down and put to death all who do not support the title of liberty, we need to nuke about half the planet.

Moroni ONLY did that WITHIN the borders of his own Country. Anything such thing against another country is Satanic.

Spanish American, WWI, WWI, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf I, Gulf II were ALL Satanic with us on Satan's side.

[HeirofNumenor]

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I have some good friends who are directly involved in Afghanistan and Iraq. The cause of freedom is going forward and the terrible terrorists are being thwarted. The people there are so grateful for our help. There is even the possibility of the gospel going there.

According to Dr. Skousen, the Gospel will NEVER go into the Mid-East...at least not by missionaries, but in the same way the Jews will receive it - when the Saviour stands upon the Mount of Olives and they realize that His wounds were given by their fore-fathers. Then soon after, the Muslims will take hold of he Jew and say " Let us go up to Jerusalem, for your God is there." (OT scripture paraphrased from memory).

Yes, there will be 2 prophets / Apostles in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years, preaching to the Jews (with no success), but they will be mainly holding at bay the forces of evil at Armageddon, while the city is under siege for these 3 1/2 years.

[HeirofNumenor]

Was my ward the only one that went straight from I miss/love President Hinkley to I know that Mitt Romney is true... I couldn't stand it any more. so 3 mentions of Mitt, how was your ward? how many Mitt comments?

I don't know. My Bishop came around and said our Church was cancelled. Too much snow.

I'm serious. There were concerns about getting the snow cleared from the parking lot (my neighbors have to snow-blow/shovel their driveways 3 times in less than 2 hours -- couldn't tell they did it earlier); said they were concerned with people getting there safely (I live 1 block and walk each week), maybe all the elderly in my ward, or too many Californians

Maybe it's a blessing. After fighting the spirit last month, I was set on testifying this time -- about the Constitution, liberty, judging candidates on their religion - being blind to their record, Saints' charge to uphold the Constitution, etc. I'm not sure I could have used enough discretion. Most of my ward is for Romney.

As is, the old man who spoke last month in fast meeting spoke on Ether 8. He'd be a good support, except he believes he is part of the "Patriot Shadow Government" that will take over when the gov't crumbles.

Anyway, back in 1998 in my San Diego singles' ward, my stake pres spoke to us about the proper way to bear testimony, and had the missionaries set the example. No travelogues, stories, self-promotion (pro or con) -- only pure testimony of the Savior, the Gospel, and the Atonement. I have tried to do that every time since -- it seemed to help the meetings...until some young single sisters got all sappy/weepy -- especially about how badly they wanted to have a date, get married, and be a mommy ASAP

[Proud 2b Peculiar]

WHOA..I think you would have been in more trouble then me!

[lundbaek]

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