Will Jesus Christ End the Fed?

[marc]

Or will we do it first?

D&C 117: 16 And again, verily I say unto you, let all my servants in the land of Kirtland remember the Lord their God, and mine house also, to keep and preserve it holy, and to overthrow the moneychangers in mine own due time, saith the Lord. Even so. Amen.

[John5]

I think our society will self destruct without any external help. We are ripe, especially in DC.

[marc]

The startling thought just occurred to me that the moneychangers could refer to those in "mine house" now that I reread it.

[Kingdom of ZION]

The startling thought just occurred to me that the moneychangers could refer to those in "mine house" now that I reread it.

Your eyes are getting keener... you can take your glasses off. Moneychangers are those found in the outer court of the Temple, that defile the temple by doing commerce, selling the poor those things needed to make a righteous offering. LIKE MAYBE RENTING YOU (THE POOR) TEMPLE CLOTHING FOR AMERICAN (ROMAN) COINS, IN THE OUTER COURTS OF MODERN TEMPLES????

[marc]

KoZ, the more I read in the scriptures, the more I realize that I have been wearing rose colored glasses. I can't help but think that there is much more to it than what you just posted. Still, my feet are on solid ground.

[dauser]

The bank is the anti-temple.

One can buy anything in this world with the bank's money.

If he bank is the center of the community it will try to destroy the temple.

If the temple is the center of the community it will replace the bank.

The temple would eliminate the bank.

[marc]

Although, KoZ, I understand that the temple clothing rented at a small fee covers the cost of laundering/maintenance. Isn't that appropriate?

[kathyn]

The temples that rent out clothing are not making any sort of profit from it. And the number of shields and towels used is enormous, with no fee being charged at all. There is a small laundry staff at the Jordan River temple plus volunteer workers. As an ordinance worker at the JR temple, I had a few extra minutes yesterday during my shift and spent the time folding dozens of shields for the initiatory. The amount of laundry that was being done there was huge. The washers and dryers are going a lot. To try to paint the temple as a "money-changer" is blaspemous to me.

The work that goes on in the temple is most holy and sacred and is not to be mocked.

Plus, the Church now absorbs half the cost of new garments so that everyone can afford to have garments in good condition.

[Kingdom of ZION]

The temples that rent out clothing are not making any sort of profit from it. And the number of shields and towels used is enormous, with no fee being charged at all. There is a small laundry staff at the Jordan River temple plus volunteer workers. As an ordinance worker at the JR temple, I had a few extra minutes yesterday during my shift and spent the time folding dozens of shields for the initiatory. The amount of laundry that was being done there was huge. The washers and dryers are going a lot. To try to paint the temple as a "money-changer" is blaspemous to me.

The work that goes on in the temple is most holy and sacred and is not to be mocked.

Plus, the Church now absorbs half the cost of new garments so that everyone can afford to have garments in good condition.

That is good, it sounds like posting on Forums over the years, someone has been listening, and they are repenting. That is not how they use to do business in the Temples. And to say the most wealthiest corporation and church in the US cannot provide Tithe Paying Members, especially the poor for as a general rule the membership who attend the Temples regularly own their own clothing, is absurd to anyone, that the costs are to hard for the Church to bear. I am extremely glad for the poor members of the Church!

But it was blasphemous to me then the Temples had "money-changer" in them!

[Kingdom of ZION]

KoZ, the more I read in the scriptures, the more I realize that I have been wearing rose colored glasses. I can't help but think that there is much more to it than what you just posted. Still, my feet are on solid ground.

All scriptures have seven levels of interpretation, according to the Jews. The highest being the understand of how it is in the eternities.

Although, KoZ, I understand that the temple clothing rented at a small fee covers the cost of laundering/maintenance. Isn't that appropriate?

What is appropriate to one might be an abomination to another... but that really is not the issue here! What does the Father think of doing commerce in the Temple Courtyard? Again, if you are a full tithe payer, that 1 or 2 dollars per month in laundry cost, this cost could not be born by the Church to avoid all evil in the Temple? Or, appearances of evil for those who think G_d will not mind... we are just covering our just cost and we are not doing it for profit!

The bank is the anti-temple.
One can buy anything in this world with the bank's money.
If he bank is the center of the community it will try to destroy the temple.
If the temple is the center of the community it will replace the bank.
The temple would eliminate the bank.

Maybe you can use your debit or credit card to pay the laundry fee if you do not have the change for it on you.

Might the Bishops who collect the tithes also be moneychangers in this exchange of tithes for admission into the Temples? Just another level of scriptural understand? Dauser added the banking system as another level of moneychangers... there is three levels so far.

[Silas]

I think it is safe to say there will be no Federal Reserve when Christ returns. I don't think it will last for him to personally dispose of it though. Also in regards to KOZ's last thought. The Law of Tithing has nothing to do with money changing, it certainly doesn't prohibit the poor from entering the temple as everyone pays the same ten percent. I am pretty sure that the Lord does want his covenant people to obey his commandments.

[Kingdom of ZION]

I think it is safe to say there will be no Federal Reserve when Christ returns. I don't think it will last for him to personally dispose of it though. Also in regards to KOZ's last thought. The Law of Tithing has nothing to do with money changing, it certainly doesn't prohibit the poor from entering the temple as everyone pays the same ten percent. I am pretty sure that the Lord does want his covenant people to obey his commandments.

Really? Have you ever read the Parable in D&C 101? So where do the servants get the money that they decide to give to the exchangers (Banks) rather than building the Tower? Does this not make them Money Changers?

And now, where do you think the money originally came from to build the new Mall? Or a thousand other things, if the truth be known?

I am sorry if you think this law of tithing is and has been lived correctly. That tying it to Temple admittance is not selling ones Signs and Tokens. Where is the revelation resending the Law of Consecration? I assumed you have covenanted to live this law? And have been warned in relation to this covenant... "G_d will not be mocked"?

You want something safe to say... in the hour of the coming of the Messiah? Their will be so few left upon thy earth, that a small child may write their names. (see Isaiah and the BoM) How few is a few? These times will be liken unto the times of Noah, eight souls will ark over into this new world.

Shalom

[awake]

You want something safe to say... in the hour of the coming of the Messiah? Their will be so few left upon thy earth, that a small child may write their names. (see Isaiah and the BoM) How few is a few? These times will be liken unto the times of Noah, eight souls will ark over into this new world.

So you believe there will only be 8 or maybe alittle more, like 20 or 30, souls that will survive the cleansing and establish Zion? I believed it would be very few and mostly women, but I didn't think that low. Do you know the reference in Isaiah for that thought? Thanks.