Ravening wolves are amongst us...

[HeirofNumenor]

As I see it, and remember from 18 years ago, the main concerns are these:


Performing temple ordinances outside the temple.

Saying the 1st presidency has suppressed Pres. Benson

feminists who advocate women holding the priesthood and pray to a Mother in Heaven.

Intellectuals who challenge the origins of the _Book of Mormon_ and church authority.

These above concerns are leading indicators of apostasy.

o People who sell their services of gospel understanding for money.
o Quoting the exact day of the coming of Jesus Christ.
Many people of whom have quit their jobs and moved their families to mountain retreats.

These are indicators of either priest craft, following false prophets out of fear (they shall look for me in the desert and shall not find Me) only to perish, as well as flirtations with apostasy, though not advanced as the earlier list I made.

The other comments, about homeschooling, food storage, etc., are there I believe because those who do the things on my apostasy list, also tend to do this more innocent things. Remember -- they were trying to make a profile, for something that has suddenly come up among them.

Obviously, the Church's renewed emphasis on food storage vindicates that concern, and Elder Rector (emeritus 70) told us in 2001 that...[comment deleted by author]...At that time, he said there were about 10,000 families in the Salt Lake valley who were wanting to do home schooling. Undoubtedly that number has grown since. The Church does not have a problem with it.

[Army Of Truth]

I agree 100%, Mark. Excellent observation. Credibility is everything indeed. No one will ever listen to you, let alone check any facts you give them if they don't think you are credible. Letting them reach their own conclusions is key.

Speaking of setting up time tables, a close friend at my ward (after discussing politics about 2 weeks ago) said that something will happen in June of this year and that I need to have all my food storage ready by then. When I asked him where he got that information from, he said "trust me, something's going to happen in June" and left it at that. I still talk to him and love him like a brother, but I'm a little concerned that he may be mislead by setting dates for Armageddon.

BTW, I never heard that comment by Elder Rector before. Thanks, HeirofNumenor

[Proud 2b Peculiar]

The only problem with John is that the Lost Tribes come after the temple in Zion is built and yet the man like Moses is I believe to lead the first saints back to Independence to redeem Zion. But then some like Darren believe the lost tribes have started to come forth and we do after all have temples in Zion now, and there are others like Charity that believe that they are already in Zion and will remain until the Temple is built thus no return needed. Clearly I don't know the answer and I do not for a second believe that they are wrong. I simply do not know and hence apply the knowledge the best I can and take it where it leads me until such time that I do know.

I believe that there are tribes here and tribes that will return.

[HeirofNumenor]

I never trusted Bo Gritz. He had all the characteristics of a c i a infiltrator.

Or an opportunist.

[HeirofNumenor]

BTW, I never heard that comment by Elder Rector before. Thanks, HeirofNumenor

That was something given at a small dinner gathering regarding Kimber academies. Not for widespread public dissemination (so I just deleted that phrase), but I gave it only to say that the Brethren are concerned about public education, and home schooling per se is not an evil to them.

[Proud 2b Peculiar]

to promote credibility, I suggest you start with this speech.

Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.

lol

[SwissMrs&Pitchfire]

Thank you, that was very fun to read aloud with dramatic vim and vigor.

[Army Of Truth]

to promote credibility, I suggest you start with this speech.

Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it is my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V.

lol! good one, 3%! I loved that scene from the movie.
I learned a new word: vichyssoise - ("vi - shee - swahz") A thick creamy potato soup flavored with leeks and onions, usually served cold.
Not sure if I'd like a taste of that, but good to know nonetheless.

[ChelC]

If you warm it up it's nummy.