who is smarter -- Swedes or Utah folk?

[uglypitbull]

You have studies that say fluoride in drinking water is bad and your guts will rot, and studies that say fluoride in drinking water is good and promotes good oral health, when otherwise it wouldn't happen. Who's right? You can't go by a scientist's word alone, or can you? This all boils down to the selective listening each of us tunes into. We have itching ears to hear what we think is right. Same with everything. Global warming, 9/11, chemtrails, GMO, moon landing, Han shot first, etc.

It should boil down to freedom of choice. Thomas Jefferson warned ""If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
What is put in the municipal water supplies is not pharmaceutical grade fluorine (the ingredient in naturally occurring fluoride that helps teeth), but rather sodium fluoride or hydrofluorosilicic acid. This stuff will eat through concrete, I don't want it in my body in ANY dose!


Using myself as a data point (yes, hardly scientific rigor), I know fluoride does fantastic things to tooth enamel to make it last far longer than you will be alive. It hardens it against cavities and decay. However they tell you on the toothpaste and prescription strength gel, "Don't swallow this concentration of fluoride, you dingbat!" But I also have had exactly zero problems drinking municipal water in Virgina, Utah, Oklahoma, Washington, wherever. Yah flouride is frickin' toxic as all get out in pure form, but what isn't? Dilution rates matter in this case, and I'm open to learning exactly what goes on in tap water that has a statistically significant impact on the population.

Perhaps little doses of radiation are good for us too? Or how about lithium, which has recently been proposed to be added to drinking water in order to "limit suicide".

As a sidebar, in my experience, Europeans (Czech, French, English, Spaniards) have downright awful oral health. But who knows why that is. I'm not going to speculate.

My view is this.... if you want additives in your food and water, then go buy them with your money, and add them to your own!

[Henmasher]

You have studies that say fluoride in drinking water is bad and your guts will rot, and studies that say fluoride in drinking water is good and promotes good oral health, when otherwise it wouldn't happen. Who's right? You can't go by a scientist's word alone, or can you? This all boils down to the selective listening each of us tunes into. We have itching ears to hear what we think is right. Same with everything. Global warming, 9/11, chemtrails, GMO, moon landing, Han shot first, etc.

It should boil down to freedom of choice. Thomas Jefferson warned ""If the people let government decide what foods they eat and what medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny."
What is put in the municipal water supplies is not pharmaceutical grade fluorine (the ingredient in naturally occurring fluoride that helps teeth), but rather sodium fluoride or hydrofluorosilicic acid. This stuff will eat through concrete, I don't want it in my body in ANY dose!


Using myself as a data point (yes, hardly scientific rigor), I know fluoride does fantastic things to tooth enamel to make it last far longer than you will be alive. It hardens it against cavities and decay. However they tell you on the toothpaste and prescription strength gel, "Don't swallow this concentration of fluoride, you dingbat!" But I also have had exactly zero problems drinking municipal water in Virgina, Utah, Oklahoma, Washington, wherever. Yah flouride is frickin' toxic as all get out in pure form, but what isn't? Dilution rates matter in this case, and I'm open to learning exactly what goes on in tap water that has a statistically significant impact on the population.

Perhaps little doses of radiation are good for us too? Or how about lithium, which has recently been proposed to be added to drinking water in order to "limit suicide".

As a sidebar, in my experience, Europeans (Czech, French, English, Spaniards) have downright awful oral health. But who knows why that is. I'm not going to speculate.

My view is this.... if you want additives in your food and water, then go buy them with your money, and add them to your own!

so no inhalation danger. I seemed to see some guys in rubber suits with something a little more technical than a dust mask. we deserve to die if we allow this crap in the water. good grief

[Fiannan]

As a sidebar, in my experience, Europeans (Czech, French, English, Spaniards) have downright awful oral health. But who knows why that is. I'm not going to speculate.

Not really seen that. Brits I think come by their facial structure quite naturally, in other words they are not for the most part the prettiest people but that is not due to lack of fluoride -- in fact, Britain is one of the few European nations that has fluoride in much of its urban water systems. As for other variables in a national health care system often dental work is not paid for by the state (better take note of that). So since most people have no private health insurance all dental care for adults comes out of the pocket -- 100%.

However, as a whole Europeans are healthier than Americans -- again, with the exception of the Brits. And one might note that European scientists are pretty smart people -- so why is there fluoride in many cities in the USA and not in continental Europe or China? And as we are to support the WofW can we just sit back and let government people tell us what we must take into our bodies?

[uglypitbull]

so no inhalation danger. I seemed to see some guys in rubber suits with something a little more technical than a dust mask. we deserve to die if we allow this crap in the water. good grief

It has a poison number for transport. I agree, and yes, there IS inhalation danger. When you take a hot shower you breathe the steam, which contains chlorine too. I think Alex Jones did an expose on a TX municipal water plant....and they said they had to replace the pipes and tanks on a frequent basis due to the corrosion from the fluoride. He got this all on film too.

Update! Albuquerque, NM just got rid of it in their water supply....

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[Fiannan]

One wonders what is worse for health, green tea or fluoridated water. Maybe members should send letters of complaint to LDS Church leaders and inform them of the dangers of what a large number of members will now be forced to ingest.