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Walking on Water

Posted: April 20th, 2012, 7:06 am
by ATL Wake
I have attached a post from John Pontius' blog
http://unblogmysoul.wordpress.com/2012/ ... the-water/

John is also the author of "Following the Light of Christ into His Presence" and "The Triumph of Zion-our Personal Quest for the New Jerusalem"

http://www.amazon.com/Following-Light-C ... ap_title_0
http://www.amazon.com/Triumph-Zion-our- ... pd_sim_b_2


From time to time I think about Peter, who upon seeing Christ walking upon the water, asked him “If it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.”

When Christ answered “come”, Peter came “down out of the ship, [and] walked on the water, to go to Jesus”. (Matthew 14:28-29)

There are many amazing elements to this story. Most often, what people like to observe is that when Peter heard the winds and saw the waves that he became afraid and began to sink. I think the greater point is that he was actually walking upon the water! No matter if it was one step or ten, or if he sank quickly or slow, or if he was afraid or of little faith, he actually did walk upon the water. As far as sacred history records, only Jesus Christ and Peter have ever done so.

When Christ caught him as he sank, I believe his faith was restored. He walked out there, he knew he could do it, and one can only marvel that Peter most probably walked back to the ship upon the water.

But, my point is this, that unless Peter had seen the Master walking upon the water, Peter could not have even conceived the idea of walking upon the water, let alone had the faith to do so.

For almost two-hundred years there has been a moratorium upon sharing grand spiritual experiences. We are told “Those who know don’t talk. Those who talk don’t know.” This is actually a Chinese proverb from “Tao Te Ching”. The rest of the proverb says “Close your mouth, block off your sense, blunt your sharpness, untie your knots, soften your glare, settle your dust.” In other words, stop talking and listen. Or as the kids of today say, “Calm your storm.”

How it came in this later-day world to mean that personal and glorious spiritual experiences should not be shared, and if someone is sharing them they’re being inappropriate, is hard to tell. But, it is not true in my opinion. Those who know should talk when inspired, and we should not dismiss such things because of a Chinese proverb.

If Peter had been looking the other way, or asleep in the boat, then his faith and belief would have never blossomed. He had to see such a thing to believe it because belief limits us to our own definition of possible. The only reason he knew he could was because he saw Jesus doing it, and then asked and received permission to do it himself.

We are not so different from Peter. When we see someone work a miracle by the priesthood, when we hear by spiritual ears of a miracle or great manifestation, then our faith is empowered to do the same. Without that witness, without seeing and knowing that someone else did these great things in the storms of their lives, we most often lack the faith to do so in ours. In fact, this is the power of the scriptures, that someone did it before us. This is the power that is so dramatically shut off when “those who know don’t talk.”

Imagine a priesthood meeting in some millennial day where Peter, now resurrected, takes a High Priest group to a nearby lake and turning to face them says, “Brethren, today’s lesson is on walking on the water, and here is how it is done.” With that, he takes ten steps upon the water, then returns and says, “Now you do it.” I think all of us would go home wet from the first few tries, but like Peter, we would suddenly know that we could because we saw him do it, and we eventually would walk upon the waters ourselves.

I think we are all Peters who would happily walk upon the water if we knew how. The UnBlog has taught me that I am not alone in the desire to do so. So many of us have read the scriptural promises, or believed the words of sacred ceremony, and are seeking to claim them all, sometimes without the approval of spouse, friends or family, and we desperately wish someone who actually knew how, would just speak up. I hope you realize that you are not alone in your drive to seek and obtain greater things, those things which “eye has not seen, nor yet entered into the heart of man”. But, when the eye of faith does see fellow pilgrims walking upon the water, then it does enter into the heart, and after some spectacular failures and serious dog-paddling, we do eventually find ourselves walking upon the waters heedless of the storms around us."

John has also given and published a number of great firesides at"
http://followingthelight.org/books-and-essays/

My personal favorites would probably be:
Fireside Jan. 22, 2012; Spanish Fork, Utah, "The Entire Process of Spiritual Growth"
Fireside Nov. 27, 2011; Goshen, Utah, "Seek the Face of the Lord"

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 20th, 2012, 7:23 am
by marc
I have been enjoying his writings and those of other authors. So many books, so little time. Does anyone know what John does with the money earned from his books, etc? I'm just curious.

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 20th, 2012, 7:51 am
by ATL Wake
coachmarc wrote:I have been enjoying his writings and those of other authors. So many books, so little time. Does anyone know what John does with the money earned from his books, etc? I'm just curious.
No, but in one of his talks he does allude to the fact that he had a successful venture in the past and he wouldn't need money from his books. But i am not sure what he does with the proceeds.

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 20th, 2012, 7:53 am
by ATL Wake
I think John is a truly wonderful, humble man. His tone doesn't strike people the way Denver's does, yet he testifies of the same wonderful things.

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 20th, 2012, 9:36 am
by Mark
ATL Wake wrote:I think John is a truly wonderful, humble man. His tone doesn't strike people the way Denver's does, yet he testifies of the same wonderful things.

Thanks much ATL for the link. I am very interested in reading this Brothers materials. I appreciate the tip.

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 20th, 2012, 2:46 pm
by HeirofNumenor
ATL Wake wrote:I think John is a truly wonderful, humble man. His tone doesn't strike people the way Denver's does, yet he testifies of the same wonderful things.

THAT would be a welcome relief......

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 21st, 2012, 4:56 pm
by Mark
HeirofNumenor wrote:
ATL Wake wrote:I think John is a truly wonderful, humble man. His tone doesn't strike people the way Denver's does, yet he testifies of the same wonderful things.

THAT would be a welcome relief......

I listened to his Jan 22nd talk on Spiritual growth that ATL recommended and it was a wonderful presentation. Bro. Pontius seems to be a very insightful man who has paid the price to receive greater light and knowledge in his life.

It is indeed a welcome relief Heir in that I did not detect any prideful attitudes that often seem to infect some who seek for greater truths in their life and invariably develop a case of the self righteous yips. ;)

It is often such a tricky road to travel for many. Keeping a humble and charitable attitude toward the church and its members along with the Brethren while learning and understanding the mysteries of the Kingdom.

There is such a temptation in many to begin fault finding and accusing once they begin that path of enlightenment in their life. Bro. Pontius does not seem to be one who has fallen prey to that trap.

I was in the temple last night and many of the insights he shared were very helpful in further understanding of the endowment. I am anxious to read and hear more of this good Brothers thoughts and experiences. Which book of his would be first on the list ATL?

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 21st, 2012, 5:35 pm
by ATL Wake
Mark wrote: Which book of his would be first on the list ATL?
"Following the Light of Christ Into His Presence"

You can also subscribe to his Unblog. He writes very uplifting posts every other day (on average).

http://unblogmysoul.wordpress.com/

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 21st, 2012, 7:50 pm
by Mark
ATL Wake wrote:
Mark wrote: Which book of his would be first on the list ATL?
"Following the Light of Christ Into His Presence"

You can also subscribe to his Unblog. He writes very uplifting posts every other day (on average).

http://unblogmysoul.wordpress.com/

That one was out of print at the bookstore so I picked up his Zion book. It sounds very intriguing. In reading the intro he makes the case of the New Jerusalem following the path of the City of Enoch in becoming translated. My middle name is Enoch so maybe this translation idea isn't out of the question.. NOT!! :))

Re: Walking on Water

Posted: April 21st, 2012, 10:20 pm
by ATL Wake
Mark wrote:
That one was out of print at the bookstore so I picked up his Zion book. )
i think only the hardback is out of print, check the paperback.