Are Space Aliens actually Demons?

[shestalou]

Yes I know that you have to recieve the needle if you are O negative also, I am O positive did not need the needle but my daughter is O negative and has to have the needle in order to prevent miscarriage, what is funny though I am the one who had the 4 miscarriages and she had none, what are the nephilim, the story of them doesnt make sense that they were angels mating with humans, no evidence what so ever, I dont believe demons can mate, so what is up, the theory that the sons of God were the Sethites makes more sense, but hey Im open to what ever may be!

[dreampurplequeen]

interracial marriages that have success in having children are the result of either 2 factors...
1. either they are both rh positive, in which case there would be no problems with bearing children between them
or
2. if the woman is rh negative, she MUST get the rhogram shot to be able to have a healthy baby...studies show that rh negs may have one healthy child from a rh positive,(without the shot) but if she attempts to have any more, her body has built up anti bodies from the 1st pregnancy, so when she gets pregnant the 2nd time her body will then attack it and kill it. every time.

[A Random Phrase]

yeah about angels I will stick to the J Fielding Smith about celestial bodies and suns, in doctrine of salvation, but demons is a whole different thing, when moroni appeared to JS the three times he said that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God...

Does it means he came from there all those 3 times?

Good question.

[EmmaLee]

yeah about angels I will stick to the J Fielding Smith about celestial bodies and suns, in doctrine of salvation, but demons is a whole different thing, when moroni appeared to JS the three times he said that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God...

Does it means he came from there all those 3 times?

Good question.

Sure! At least I've always thought celestial/resurrected beings can travel at the speed of thought, so it would take no time at all to get from God's presence to Joseph's room. Or Moroni could have just been lingering around somewhere between each of his visits to Joseph (perhaps visiting the Hill or other places he was familiar with) - but I get the impression the visits were very closely spaced to each other. Anyway, speed of thought, unless further light and knowledge informs me of another way.

[drjme]

Yes I know that you have to recieve the needle if you are O negative also, I am O positive did not need the needle but my daughter is O negative and has to have the needle in order to prevent miscarriage, what is funny though I am the one who had the 4 miscarriages and she had none, what are the nephilim, the story of them doesnt make sense that they were angels mating with humans, no evidence what so ever, I dont believe demons can mate, so what is up, the theory that the sons of God were the Sethites makes more sense, but hey Im open to what ever may be!

nephilim were fallen 'sons of God' that were evil. It would definitely refer to a demonic/spiritual aspect as they were present on the earth before AND after the flood.

6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.”

in numbers 13:33 it also says that the Israelites though they saw nephilim (giants) in Canaan. This also would seem like a justification of why the Israelites were commanded to destroy other nations in war in the bible. they were commanded to destroy the nephilim and their descendants.

I'm not sure why 'sethites' would be the 'fallen sons of god committing evil', Noah was of Seths lineage. and according to the flood account His lineage was preserved, and if we are to take the account as literal and that all life was wiped off the known earth, then the only explanation of why they (nephilim) were present before and after the flood would be because of a spiritual aspect.

I dont believe demons can mate, so what is up

i'm not sure on the specifics, but I do believe that those who are possessed can 'mate', I also believe in generational cursing that are inherited as a result of living under a dark heritage and a denial of Christ/God. I'm not sure if you have met anyone (christian) who has encountered the demonic possessed, but I have met one person who has, who said that the things these possessed people are able to do without dying are shocking, which would explain also the 'feats' that they could commit and why they were men of 'renown'.

it quite an interesting topic to look into without all the alien stuff added in.

[A Random Phrase]

Sure! At least I've always thought celestial/resurrected beings can travel at the speed of thought, so it would take no time at all to get from God's presence to Joseph's room.

Makes sense to me.

[Rock34]

3. the millennium is not a 'new age' (it's not even 1000 years), it is a reconciliation/redemption to how things are meant to be with God and his kingdom. it's not 'new', it's 'on earth, as it [already] is in heaven'

I learn something new every time I visit here. I guess the church should tear out the hymns that mention things like "a thousand years in Zion to praise the Lamb".

http://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns/ ... n?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Thousand" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[drjme]

3. the millennium is not a 'new age' (it's not even 1000 years), it is a reconciliation/redemption to how things are meant to be with God and his kingdom. it's not 'new', it's 'on earth, as it [already] is in heaven'

I learn something new every time I visit here. I guess the church should tear out the hymns that mention things like "a thousand years in Zion to praise the Lamb".

http://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns/ ... n?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Thousand" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe studying what the original meaning were from the original languages of the bible will help clarify.

[inquirringmind]

I think there is purposeful deceit that has been going on since the Roswell crash in the 50's that has gone a long way in equating UFOs to automatically = alien beings from another world.

Based on a great deal of personal research I've done, and a great deal of prayer into the matter, I'm convinced of the following:
1) UFOs are man-made, and man-manned. There's a great deal of evidence and testimony that supports this conclusion, but I won't go into such here.
2) "Aliens" (e.g. little grey men) are demons. I lean toward the Genesis 6 theories -- that deeply Luciferian groups somehow conduct DNA experiments, or conduct some sort of twisted-offspring breeding to occur (ala "Rosemary's Baby" type deal) which results in the creation of physical, organic "bodies" which Lucifer and his minions can somehow inhabit/take control of. These condemned spirits are so desperate to inhabit and take control of any flesh (as demonstrated in the New Testament when the Savior cast them out from the crazy guy and permitted them to enter the herd of swine) that it's entirely feasible that they'd go to any lengths to have any kind of body created for them -- and if Luciferian groups used their free-agency to create them, the Lord would probably not intervene to stop it (as He doesn't intervene with the millions of abortion deaths nor fetal DNA experimentation, cloning, etc.)
3) At some point within the next 7 to 10 years, these "aliens" will be introduced to the world as a benevolent race of "watchers" -- likely sold to the world as the Ascendent Masters that have been communicating with and inspiring New Age followers. Books like "Communion" serve to prepare the minds of the masses for this introduction.

That's about all I have to say on the matter. If anyone wishes to rebut, feel free, but I apologize in advance for not having any additional free time to respond.

This is a very interesting theory, but why would God allow man to give the fallen angels bodies, after He denied them bodies?

and if Luciferian groups used their free-agency to create them, the Lord would probably not intervene to stop it

But if the genetically engineered greys are more than just bodies (i.e. if they have souls), what about their agency?

Wouldn't humans knowingly involved in "Luciferian groups" be more likely to be possessed than any innocent creatures they created in the laboratory?

When I was in the Navy I was the captain's damage controlman. I sat behind the captain's chair whenever something happened like sea and anchor detail, fuel replenishment, or general quarters. One late night I was called to my station. The plotters had found something (a hit on the radar) that was confusing everyone. For a few minutes the plotters thought it was a small boat in the middle of the Pacific because of its signature, then for a few more minutes it was a helicopter because it was airborne and hovering, then it was a fast moving aircraft and it was coming right at us. A large ball of light shot across the bow of the ship causing the bridge to light up. The ball of light made no noise. Then the object was gone.

My dad had a similar experience when he was in the Navy.

He and some shipmates saw two balls of light from the deck of an aircraft carrier, and after he saw them stop, and reverse, and then speed forward, he said he saw them dive into the sea.

But when I asked him if they displaced any water, or left a wake behind them, he said "no."

Now how could any physical, nuts and bolts type things from another world, dive into the sea at high speed without displacing water?

My buddy and I were laying on brick walls and looking up at the night sky. We watched as an aircraft with navigator lights blinking traveled from south to north. We noticed four other lights intercepting the aircraft from the north, south, east, and west. They didn't have navigator lights. My partner looked to me and asked if I could see the four aircraft without navigator lights? I told him I could and the four lights could just be the escorts.

When the four lights reached the aircraft at about the same distance the light that came from the north reversed 180-degrees and was now traveling in-front of the aircraft. The lights coming from the east and west cut 90-degrees and were traveling along side the aircraft. And the light trailing the aircraft continued to follow.

My partner and I looked at each other and couldn't believe what we had just observed. We had both been around combat and recon aircraft for a long time and we both knew that nothing could do what those three lights did.

So why do you and dcmarkham both seem to assume that these things were physical, nuts and bolts objects?

If they are demonic, isn't it more likely that they're more like holograms?

[Ostro Levante]

I always love to write stories which sort of have a sci fi and religious aspect to them, endlessly fascinating to blur the two.
In one it has a race of near deity like powerful destroyers and one comes to earth to...well destroy it.
Many times it is called a Demon of the Starry Voids.
Heck they even sprout horns when they use too many powers.

[suburbanism]

Since the book of Job describes two very large, frightening animals (one apparently water-dwelling and the other apparently land-dwelling), I would suspect that Noah had some kind of dinosaur babies/eggs on board - but that the drastic change in the weather/climate after the flood killed them off (along with the help from humans, who seem always willing to make species disappear, especially if they fear them). Some say the stories in our past about dragons were actually stories about dinosaurs.[/quote]

I think of dragons and unicorns.

[jwharton]

Sons of God were those who were righteous, those "of the covenant" or "members of the church" in our vernacular. The daughters of men were those not "in the covenant" thus, in essence, "non-members". Young men leaving their religious beliefs to marry those who did not share these religious beliefs. Nothing strange or supernatural about it.

There's also nothing forbidden about this and there certainly isn't any justification for the severe cursing they received for it.

There is more to it. In my opinion, and I have plenty of evidences to show in favor of this, they were men of the Order of the Son of God (know as Melchizedek Priesthood holders today) who in the time of Seth abused their priesthood authority in order to take daughters as captive wives.

This is exactly what Jacob chapter 2 said would bring a curse to utter destruction on the Nephites. Abusing young and tender daughters.

Also, I do not think it is a coincidence that Nephites and Nephilim are so similar.

[FSM]

No

[Kolob Revenge]

I know this will sound crazy but I think enough evidence supports the existence of the tribes within the hollow of the Earth. Certainly you'd have to believe in a hollow Earth to conform to this thinking. I have a lot of evidence, or at least know of evidence, that supports this.

Now, the tribes within the Earth live for 600+ years and haven't had any wars. Because they have had hundreds of years of peace, the people have been able to focus their energies on technology to benefit mankind and not for war profits. Think about how much farther along the people on Earth would be without war and secret combinations.

Earth isn't hollow. Source: I have two degrees in geology, one of which is from the Lord's university.

[SempiternalHarbinger]

:-$

[zionminded]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

But god sent the city of Enoch to another sphere?

Hum.. I'm not sure this statement is correct.

[davedan]

God tells Joseph Smith he would never send angels except those that belong to the Earth .

Eg No aliens visiting from other planets.

But god sent the city of Enoch to another sphere?

Hum.. I'm not sure this statement is correct.

If God sent the City of Zion to another sphere, it was uninhabited. When the City of Zion returns, they still "belong" to this Earth.

[minorityofone]

Someone else may have pointed out, but if you think of God like the typical lds members aren't you literally worshipping a "space alien?" In what way would angels or an anthropomorphic god not be considered space aliens?

[zionbuilder]

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[Matchmaker]

I believe that all of Heavenly Father's children, no matter what planet they reside on at the moment, were made in His image and will be bipedal humanoids. If they look like lizards or insects that walk and talk, they didn't come from Heavenly Father.

[EmmaLee]

Agreed. ^^ We are made in the image of our Father - we are all the same species. Regardless of what planet our God lives on, he is not an "alien", unless by "alien" it is meant someone from a different place - in which case, we're all aliens (to this earth) since our spirits lived on another world before this earth was even created. If my earthly father/mother lived in another country than me, some might call them "aliens", but they are still my father/mother - same race, same form, same features. I do not consider any of my brothers and sisters who are living on other planets that were created by our God/Father as "aliens". Angels are of the human race, as well -

“An angel of God never has wings. Some will say that they have seen a spirit; that he offered them his hand, but they did not touch it. This is a lie. First, it is contrary to the plan of God: a spirit cannot come but in glory; an angel has flesh and bones; we see not their glory. The devil may appear as an angel of light. Ask God to reveal it; if it be of the devil, he will flee from you; if of God, He will manifest Himself, or make it manifest. We may come to Jesus and ask Him; He will know all about it.” (History of the Church, 3:392.)

More here - https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-and ... d?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[JohnnyL]

Angels that deal with earth WERE here, and still might be (if they're spirits in the spirit world). If they're not here, they still PERTAIN to this world, not another.

[brig]

Yes, some space aliens seem rude. When we talk about "discernment of spirit" in family home evening we say "fear and shame are not of god", and pay attention to the handshake LOL. I think our bodies give us dominion over them. They seem earth bound to me. From under ground cities or the "artificial" moon. I don't see extra terrestrials wanting to return once they escape the matrix. LOL. You know, I resent the idea of paying for the armament of space. And yet there might be an incoming planet LOL. Question: Is Satan the Set who killed Osiris?

[shestalou]

I think honestly Satan and his minions are the true demonic space aliens that rape and abduct people for experiments, they are the greys.

[shestalou]

I think honestly Satan and his minions are the true demonic space aliens that rape and abduct people for experiments, they are the greys. @-)