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HELP!!!! New Hampshire issues!! FRAUD!
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 11:37 am
by Proud 2b Peculiar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY
It appears that Ron Paul and McCain's totals were switched!!!
We need people that know how to track this stuff down!
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 12:23 pm
by shadow
Seems about right. Totally expected. The last thread, our vote, falls apart.
Thanks for the link LC.
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 12:26 pm
by ChelC
I read that the columns were misaligned. So according to unconfirmed comment, the totals were correct, but McCain had Hunters numbers, Paul had McCains... on down the line.
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 12:34 pm
by shadow
But it still doesn't make sense if they were mis-aligned. If Paul got 8% (as has been reported)of the vote, he would still have more numbers than were shown. Maybe Paul really did get less than 1% of the vote, but I don't think so. (I still can't believe that Hillary won either)
This brings up another idea about vote fraud. It has been said by ETB that the last thread of our constitution is our vote. How has the media affected the vote? Even when the people respond that Paul won debates, the media downplays it and manipulates everyone into thinking that another candidate won. Talk about a false flag operation.
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 1:14 pm
by Steve Clark
Thanks for posting this. It is quite unsettling. I'm not jumping to conclusion of all out fraud just yet (though I'm not too far off). I have heard some people say all the columns were shifted over one space, but that wouldn't make sense for Huckabee - in this scenario he would have had almost nothing. Any other possibilities?
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 1:29 pm
by Steve Clark
Just looked a bit closer into it. Looks like the column under McCain's name isn't there at all any more, and the rest of them to the right of that column have shifted over on the new graph.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/200 ... s_by_town/[/url]
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 1:43 pm
by Proud 2b Peculiar
They are changing all the numbers... and columns
People have video taped and printed out the changes.
They have evidence. In addition to that:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ja ... ounted.htm
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ja ... admits.htm
This woman that is mentioned is one of my groups. It is her family whose votes were not counted!
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ja ... Sutton.htm
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 2:26 pm
by Jeremy
When your vote doesn't count it is the same as not being able to vote. I know of a few systems where you don't get to vote...I can only think of one that works and we are so very far away from it.
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 2:38 pm
by Col. Flagg
This just re-affirms the need to toss out the Diebold machines and go back to paper ballotting, but unfortunately, they've already ruled that paper ballotting is now a thing of the past. Let the vote fraud begin!
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 3:31 pm
by buffalo_girl
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UPDATE JAN 9 9am PST: TOWN OF SUTTON CONFIRMS RON PAUL TOTALS WERE 31, NOT ZERO.
I just got off the phone with Jennifer Call, Town Clerk for Sutton. She confirmed that the Ron Paul totals in Sutton were actually 31, and said that they were "left off the tally sheet" and it was human error.
This is not an acceptable answer, especially because one of the most common forms of fraud in a hand count system is to alter or omit results on the reporting sheet. Hand count is lovely, transparent. They then fill out another reconciliation sheet, often in front of witnesses, and it looks fine. Then they provide a summary or media sheet with the incorrect results.
A Web site here:
http://www.wheresthepaper.org has more on fraud techniques with hand counted paper ballots. You'll have to dig for it -- or Google, and the excellent research on this is Theresa Hommel from the state of New York.
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Comma delimited database: NH municipalities hand count vs use Diebold machines:
http://www.bbvdocs.org/NH/state/Jan-08- ... ems-NH.txt
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/message ... #POST39516
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 5:15 pm
by Bridgey
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=749
Hand Count Shows 15% For Ron Paul
By zooamerica | January 9, 2008
This would have placed Dr. Paul in 3rd place, just as the polls were showing before the primary…
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23643
The computer counted votes are the problem.
Not a single hand count township showed less than 10%
Supposedly, Ron Paul got 8% - this does not make sense.
richmond is hand count 34% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
lyman is hand count 28.7% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Orange is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Harts location is hand count 25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
wentworth is hand count 24% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
goshen is hand count 17.68% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
marlow is hand count 16.6% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
cornish is hand count 14.8% for dr. Paul…100% reporting
Rumney is hand count 14.5% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
croydon is hand count 14 % for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
dorchester is hand count 13.89% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
effingham is hand count 13% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
albany is hand count 12.9% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
antrim is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
south hampton is hand count 12% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
sullivan is hand count 12.61% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
troy is hand count 12.21% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
mason is hand count 11.88% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
newport is hand count 11.45% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
charlstown is hand count 11.3% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Allenstown is hand count 11.16% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
bristol is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
warren is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Strafford is hand count 11% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
washington is hand count 11.02% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
lancaster is hand count 10.9% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
springfield is hand count 10.6% for Dr.Paul…100% reporting
wilton is hand count 10.37% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Northfield is hand count 10.3% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
mont vernon is hand count 10.25% for Dr. Paul…100% reporting
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 5:39 pm
by Bridgey
http://www.ronpaulwarroom.com/?p=754
Greenville Vote Discrepancy SAME as Sutton
By AnalogDan | January 9, 2008
We have caught Sutton red-handed. However, there are other other tonwships that have been reporting 0 votes, including Greenville, as sourced here:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primar ... val=NHREP9
Moreover, when Sutton had been found out, they quickly added 31 votes, and cited ‘human error.’ What is their excuse for this source, now showing Greenville at 25 votes:
http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbc ... y=news0807
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a pattern. Let’s get this info out ASAP.
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 11:38 pm
by Stephen
I went out this evening and hung up a bunch of Ron Paul signs on posts on a major street near my home. I drove alone and had a lot of time to think.
I thought about the electronic voting machine issue...and all that many of us are doing to support Ron Paul...and the thought that Ron Paul more than likely is our countries last chance to attempt to retrieve ourselves to a constitutional government....then I thought about all of the evil things that the saints and citizens are buying into...food crisis....economic crisis...etc...and really got myself into a funk.
Then I watched a couple of Japanese pranks and laughed until I hurt and my nose is runny. It was like the equivalent of taking a shot of whisky to temporarily numb the pain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNxrK-hkHA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BtNN6M97q8&NR=1 The second one shows a few mens bottom cracks....sorry ladies.
Posted: January 9th, 2008, 11:56 pm
by Bridgey
Hilarious. those poor guys. How scarey. I wonder if we'd be sued if we had a game show that did the same.
Be funnier if G W Bush, Romney and crew were the test pilots though.
Posted: January 10th, 2008, 3:27 am
by HeirofNumenor
This is the Boston Globe's cop-out/cover up.
Note: Due to a formatting error, some of the columns of this chart appeared mislabeled in some users' browsers Wednesday morning. They are now correctly labeled. The data appearing on the map was not affected.
Posted: January 10th, 2008, 8:49 am
by Proud 2b Peculiar
Stephen wrote:I went out this evening and hung up a bunch of Ron Paul signs on posts on a major street near my home. I drove alone and had a lot of time to think.
I thought about the electronic voting machine issue...and all that many of us are doing to support Ron Paul...and the thought that Ron Paul more than likely is our countries last chance to attempt to retrieve ourselves to a constitutional government....then I thought about all of the evil things that the saints and citizens are buying into...food crisis....economic crisis...etc...and really got myself into a funk.
Then I watched a couple of Japanese pranks and laughed until I hurt and my nose is runny. It was like the equivalent of taking a shot of whisky to temporarily numb the pain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNxrK-hkHA&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BtNN6M97q8&NR=1 The second one shows a few mens bottom cracks....sorry ladies.
LOL
Posted: January 10th, 2008, 8:50 am
by Proud 2b Peculiar
HeirofNumenor wrote:This is the Boston Globe's cop-out/cover up.
Note: Due to a formatting error, some of the columns of this chart appeared mislabeled in some users' browsers Wednesday morning. They are now correctly labeled. The data appearing on the map was not affected.
"Due to a low IQ, some of our human counters forgot to write in the total votes for certain candidates in more then one county."
Posted: January 10th, 2008, 2:57 pm
by WhisperFox
Was it Stalin that said
" I don't care who votes, I care who counts the votes. "
loose translation
We're there folks
Posted: January 10th, 2008, 3:49 pm
by Jeremy
Posted: January 10th, 2008, 5:34 pm
by Stephen
Those posters were awesome. I remember reading...I think it was that snopes site...that it was wrongly attributed to Stalin. I like it better with Stalin saying it.
Posted: January 10th, 2008, 6:12 pm
by Proud 2b Peculiar
I have gotten word that a Candidate will be going to NH tomorrow and demand a vote recount.
Prison planet and Granniwarriors for Ron Paul (or something like that) will be helping.
The grassroots people are raising the $67,000 that is required to do it.
If Ron Paul is given another delegate due to the recount, then they give all that money back.
Posted: January 11th, 2008, 8:46 am
by prew
I hope that there is a recount initiated by Ron Paul. Then that shows that he cares about really winning the Presidential Election and doing what he says he will do. He needs to request the recount fast; there is a time limit to do so. More people need to ask him to do it.
If there is no vote recount, when there is evidence of vote fraud; then I believe people will lose hope in him, since it shows that he doesn't care.
Posted: January 11th, 2008, 12:22 pm
by Proud 2b Peculiar
By having there two other candidates do this, it protects Ron Paul from the mud slinging of the MSM and lets him focus on that he needs to focus on in the other states. IMO.
Albert Howard (Republican running for President in NH) and Dennis Kucinich are the two candidates that have already gone to file today for a recount.
Alex Jones is there for support as well, and there is supposed to be a press conference held today with the Secretary of the State of New Hampshire.
Since I don't watch TV, you guys will have to let me know if you see it, or how it goes.