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SwissMrs&Pitchfire wrote:I watched the video shot from the bridge of the destroyer. For all I know it was our special forces running around in those speedboats. What a joke. If Iran wanted to do something the ships would take a few dozen silkworms and sink. Playing in speedboats? Come on.

Col. Flagg wrote: Iran's sunburn missile is to be even more feared...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.inf ... le7147.htm

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I can't help but wonder if this is another Gulf of Tonkin in the making?

LoveChrist wrote:Dear President Bush,

It is time to give up the empire. You cannot save the dollar or appear to be doing what is in the best interest of the people of the United States by trying to provoke yet another war.

It is clear that the Iranian people are not a threat to us, but you are making us a threat to them.

So you, are the threat to our national security and the goons that are working with you.

If you pursue this course, the empire that you are trying to expand will be destroyed. It is the right of other nations to do what is in their best interest. To have forced the Iraqi people to sell their oil in dollars once again rather then Euros was not enough to save your empire. And robbing them of 17% of their profits by the conversion is abominable. Now that Iran has also started selling under the Euro rather then the dollar, you propose to go in and force them to do the same.

Iran is not Iraq. They have witnessed your nation building, and they are prepared for you.

Sincerely,

The American people

shadow wrote:I think the whole thing is humorous. If ANY country had their warships just off our coast they would be bombed out of the water. So when another country drives a few speedboats around our battleships off THEIR coast, then they're the bad guys, not us??? How ripe our we as a nation for a humbling? We're well over due.

HeirofNumenor wrote:Just remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident was said to involve N. Vietnamese patrol boats allegedly firing on a US navy destroyer. I imagined those boats were similar to WW2 PT boats (up to 80 ft long, with torpedoes, machine guns, and a cannon).

IF this really happened, those torpedoes could have done/do some damage.

U.S.: Voices on Recording May Not Have Been From Iranian Speedboats

Just two days after the U.S. Navy released the eerie video of Iranian speedboats swarming around American warships, which featured a chilling threat in English, the Navy is saying that the voice on the tape could have come from the shore or from another ship.

SwissMrs&Pitchfire wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4115702&page=1

U.S.: Voices on Recording May Not Have Been From Iranian Speedboats

Just two days after the U.S. Navy released the eerie video of Iranian speedboats swarming around American warships, which featured a chilling threat in English, the Navy is saying that the voice on the tape could have come from the shore or from another ship.

Anyone recall the USS Cole 12 Oct 2000??? How soon we forget. I don't think the parents of the 17 sailors who died have forgotten.

Why is it that when an incident like this comes up there is such a rush from many here to paint America or its service men and women in the worst possible light?

The US navy claimed yesterday that Iranian fast boats harassed them in the Straits of Hormuz. On July 3, 1988, USS Vinceness shot down Iran Air Flight 655 (IR655) killing 290 innocent civilian from six nations including 66 children.

The US navy initially claimed that they mistakenly identified the passenger liner as an Iranian fighter, and denied that they were not inside Iranian territorial waters.

But the official ICAO investigation found that the US Navy guided missile cruiser’s attempts to contact Iran Air 655 were sent on the wrong frequency and addressed to a non-existent "Iranian F-14".

US government’s own investigations found that both IR655 and the USS Vincennes were inside Iranian territorial waters at the time of the attack.

Instead of admitting its mistake and issuing an apology, the US Government the people responsible for the atrocity were awarded medals for "heroic achievement".

"The U.S. has a long history of sailing into Iranian waters and otherwise provoking Iran," Journalist Reese Erlich , the author the news book The Iran Agenda: The Real Story of U.S. Policy and the Middle East Crisis said. "Remember on July 3, 1988, the USS Vincennes shot down an unarmed Iranian passenger plane and the U.S. tried to cover up the incident. In that context, the U.S. version of events must be carefully examined. It seems highly unlikely that Iran planned to blow up U.S. naval ships and precipitate a major incident or even war. If the U.S. attempts to make propaganda points based on the incident, it will reflect a new truculence coming out of Washington."