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Russian warships off Syria, US carriers near Iran:
http://www.debka.com/article/21504/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Aircraft Carrier CVN-77 Parks Next Door To Syria Just As US Urges Americans To Leave Country "Immediately":
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/aircraft- ... mmediately" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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US carrier strike force enters Syrian waters. Russian carrier en route

DEBKAfile Special Report November 26, 2011, 11:33 AM (GMT+02:00) Tags: Syria US aircraft carriers Russian warships Arab League Turkey The USS Bush enters Syrian watersThe Syrian crisis aassumed a big power dimension this week with the build-up of rival United States and Russia naval air carrier armadas in Syrian waters, debkafile's military sources report.

The USS George H.W. Bush arrived Wednesday, Nov. 23, in the wake of the three Russian warships anchored earlier opposite Tartus which established a command post in the Syrian port. They will be augmented by Russia's only air carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov, which is due in mid-week.

By deploying 70 ship-borne fighter-bombers plus three heavy guided missile cruisers and five guided missile destroyers opposite Syria, Washington has laid down military support for any intervention the Arab League in conjunction with Turkey may decide on.

Bashar Assad can see for himself that Washington has hoisted a nuclear aerial umbrella to protect its allies, Israel, Turkey, and Jordan, against the retaliation his armed forces high command pledged Friday for the deaths of six Syrian air force elite pilots in an ambush Thursday.

For some time, Ankara has been weighing the creation of a protected haven for rebels and refugees inside Syria. France has proposed slicing "humanitarian corridors" through Syria for them to flee safely from military tank and gunfire and secure supply of food, medicines and other essential supplies to the cities under army siege.

Both plans would depend on being safeguarded by substantial ground and air strength inside Syria which would certainly face fierce resistance from Assad's military.

The Arab League has scheduled weekend meetings to decide how to proceed after Damascus ignored its Friday deadline for accepting hundreds of monitors. Saturday, Nov. 26, AL finance ministers will discuss economic sanctions. In the past 48 hours, at least 70 people were reported killed as the Syrian army continued its crackdown in the face of spreading armed opposition.

The Russian Kuznetzov carrier and its accompanying strike vessels will join the three Russian warships parked opposite Tartus for more than a week. It will enter the same Syrian offshore waters as the USS Bush and the US Sixth Fleet, which is permanently posted in the Mediterranean.

The Syrian crisis is therefore building up to a superpower face-off unparalleled since the Cold War between America and the Soviet Union ended in the nineties, debkafile's military sources note.

While Washington clearly stands ready to back operations against the Assad regime, Moscow is drawing a red line around his presidential palace in Damascus. The Kremlin is warning the US, NATO and the Arab League that they will not be allowed to repeat their feat in Libya of overthrowing Muammar Qaddafi against Assad.

In the face of this escalating big power standoff and the high possibility of the Syrian ruler deciding to lash out against his country's neighbors, the Israeli, Jordanian and Turkey armies have declared a high state of war preparedness.
Doesn’t look good does it Col. One miss step and it could all go up in flames. :(

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I have noticed the shift from economics and woe to a talk of war. It's 1938 all over again.

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But....but....we can't be worrying about what is happening in the Middle East! We only need to hear about politics and the Kardashians. sarc/

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Iran's Khamenei presents war scenarios

In an unusual step, Iran's spiritual leader publishes commentary on official website outlining three scenarios for strike against Islamic Republic. Meanwhile, Yedioth Ahronoth reports Israel has taken in shipment of Patriot missiles
Dudi Cohen
Published:11.25.11, 12:02 / Israel News

In an unusual step that comes on the heels of Iran's threats and warnings to the US and Israel over the consequences of a possible strike on its nuclear facilities, the official website of Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei published an analysis written by Dr. Amir Mohebian, a senior political commentator.

The article details three possible war scenarios Iran could be faced with if Israel or the US proceed with a strike:

1. An all out war of attrition that would combine aerial and ground forces attack.

2. Limited war as a preparatory action for political proceedings. This would include hitting Iran’s control centers for the purpose of disrupting the stability of the Islamic regime. The best case scenario here would be that war leads to the regime's fall; the worst case would see Iran surrendering at the negotiating table.

3. A war on specific targets with the aim of destroying the regime's assault capabilities, especially against the "Zionist regime."

The Iranian commentator goes on to assess the possibility of likelihood of each scenario. He believes the feasibility of the first option is due, among other things to the fact that "the western countries' capabilities to carry out such a complex operation are very limited and nearly nonexistent."

Mohebian also mentioned the upcoming US presidential elections and the fact that the west doesn't have sufficient intelligence on Iran. In light of these problems Mohebian believes that the chances of an all out war against Iran are close to nothing.

He goes on to point out the main problems of the second and third scenarios: The Iranian regime is prepared for an attack on its centers of power, the Iranian response to such an attack could be unexpected, the attack could turn the regime to an even more extreme path and encourage it to set the Middle East on fire, which would endanger the western world.

Mohebian claims that even the third and most likely scenario has a relatively small likelihood of happening. He notes that the scenario's execution would be complicated. It would be impossible to attack all of the country's nuclear facilities due to its size; a limited war could develop into a regional war.

Patriot protection
For example, an attack on Bushehr could lead to harsh ecological consequences for the region. Attacking only certain nuclear sites would not lead to a complete shutdown of Iran's technological nuclear capabilities.

Meanwhile, it would seem that Israel is also preparing for every possible scenario. Yedioth Ahronoth on Friday revealed that "a friendly country" has in the past few weeks secretly sent Israel anti-aircraft Patriot missile batteries that also serve as a missile defense system.

The new battery arrived at the Ashdod Port, the first Patriot missile battery to arrive in Israel in eight years. Nevertheless, the IDF claims there is no connection between the current shipment and recent talk of the possibility of a strike against Iran's nuclear sites.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 92,00.html

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War is in the door...We are at war...we are so preoccupied with the middle east we are destracted to what is going on in our own backyard.

Our unborn are being exterminated by planned parenthood types.
Our babies are being immunized by weaponized slow kill vaccines.
Our youth are being bused to and sociailized by our enemies in government installations.
Our young people are being sacrificed in wars for Zionists, bankers and oil interests.
Our youth are eating government lunch.
Our factories and patents are gifted to our enemies.
Our medical establishment is being seized by our enemies.
Our establishment media has been seized and propaganda fills the news.
Our drinking water is being floridated by our enemnies.
Our air is polluted by heavy metals and viruses by our enemies.
Workers and farmers are being paid not to produce by our enemies.
Our sick are being paid not to get well.
Our money has been hijacked by our enemies...it is printed and we have to rent it into circulation and pay them interest, they never give us the money to pay the interest... GUARANTEEING DEBT SLAVERYI.
Our lands, buildings, vehicles, businesses and our bodies have been liened on as collateral for our debts.
We cannot even cut hair or walk a dog without a licence or a permit.
Our elderly are being bought off by social security.
Our churches are muzzled by taxing authorities.
Our wealth is being transferred to and spent by those whom it does not belong.
Our population is unhealthy, depressed, drugged.
Our population is addicted to tv, gaming, porn, drinks, smokes, sports.
Foreign troops and heavy equipment are being staged within our borders.
Our government brings in the drugs...ships weapons to drug cartels AND THEN BLAMES THE SECOND AMMNENDMENT for people getting hurt.
Secret societies fill our legislatures, our judicial and executive branches of government and sell us out for power and gain.
Our enemies practice doing drills to take out our power grids, water and transportation systems.
Our men are being castsrated/fememized and our women are being masculanized.
Our population is turning to government instead of home to meet needs.
Our voting machines that have been tampered with. Elections are bought
The American Bar association is not even american...it is controlled by our enemieslk...giving us admiralty jurisdiction. The Uniform commerical code.
Our flag has been compromized by a gold trim placed by our enemies... meaning admiralty jurisdiction.
Congress has been made super, some say our president is financed by special interests, gay, communist, illegal and Islamic.
Our police is being federalized and militarized against us... not against our enemnies.
We are being taken over by our enemies using debt instruments and social engineering...It is cheaper than expensived armies that occupy.
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Oldemandalton wrote:Doesn’t look good does it Col. One miss step and it could all go up in flames. :(
Nope, sure doesn't. :( I hate feeling powerless as the drumbeat of war gets louder and louder, deceit reigns and evil flourishes, all for positioning on the global chess board for the opportunity to checkmate other nations. X(

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dauser wrote:War is in the door...We are at war...we are so preoccupied with the middle east we are destracted to what is going on in our own backyard.

Our unborn are being exterminated by planned parenthood types.
Our babies are being immunized by weaponized vaccines.
Our youth are being sociailized by our enemies.
Our young people are being sacrificed in wars for Zionists, bankers and oil interests.
Our youth are eating government lunch.
Our factories and patents are gifted to our enemies.
Our medical establishment is being seized by our enemies.
Our drinking water is being floridated by our enemnies.
Our air is polluted by heavy metals and viruses by our enemies.
Workers and farmers are being paid not to produce by our enemies.
Our sick are being paid not to get well.
Our money has been hijacked by our enemies...it is printed and we have to rent it into circulation and pay them interest, they never give us the money to pay the interest GUARANTEEING DEBT SLAVERYI.
Our land, buildings, businesses our bodies have been liened on as collateral for our debts.
We cannot even cut hair or walk a dog without a licence or a permit.
Our elderly are being bought off by social security.
Our churches are muzzled by taxing authorities.
Our population is drugged.
Our population is addicted to tv, gaming, porn, drinks, smokes, sports.
Foreign troops and heavy equipment are being staged within our borders.
Secret societies fill our legislatures, our judicial and executive branches of government and sell us out for power and gain.
Our enemies practice doing drills to take out our power grids, water and transportation systems.
Our men are being castsrated/fememized and our women are being masculanized.
Our population is turning to government instead of home to meet needs.
Our police is being federalized and militarized.
We are being taken over by our enemies using debt instruments and social engineering...It is cheaper than armies that occupy.
Great post dauser... so true.

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Col. Flagg wrote:
dauser wrote:War is in the door...We are at war...we are so preoccupied with the middle east we are destracted to what is going on in our own backyard.

Our unborn are being exterminated by planned parenthood types.
Our babies are being immunized by weaponized vaccines.
Our youth are being sociailized by our enemies.
Our young people are being sacrificed in wars for Zionists, bankers and oil interests.
Our youth are eating government lunch.
Our factories and patents are gifted to our enemies.
Our medical establishment is being seized by our enemies.
Our drinking water is being floridated by our enemnies.
Our air is polluted by heavy metals and viruses by our enemies.
Workers and farmers are being paid not to produce by our enemies.
Our sick are being paid not to get well.
Our money has been hijacked by our enemies...it is printed and we have to rent it into circulation and pay them interest, they never give us the money to pay the interest GUARANTEEING DEBT SLAVERYI.
Our land, buildings, businesses our bodies have been liened on as collateral for our debts.
We cannot even cut hair or walk a dog without a licence or a permit.
Our elderly are being bought off by social security.
Our churches are muzzled by taxing authorities.
Our population is drugged.
Our population is addicted to tv, gaming, porn, drinks, smokes, sports.
Foreign troops and heavy equipment are being staged within our borders.
Secret societies fill our legislatures, our judicial and executive branches of government and sell us out for power and gain.
Our enemies practice doing drills to take out our power grids, water and transportation systems.
Our men are being castsrated/fememized and our women are being masculanized.
Our population is turning to government instead of home to meet needs.
Our police is being federalized and militarized.
We are being taken over by our enemies using debt instruments and social engineering...It is cheaper than armies that occupy.
Great post dauser... so true.
Echo that....nice list dauser!

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Iran: We'll fire 150,000 missiles at Israel if attacked:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 40,00.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Are the CIA and Mossad involved in Iranian sabotage?

REPORT: Explosion rocks Iran city of Isfahan, home to key nuclear facility...
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east ... y-1.398312" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Image shows Iranian missile site was destroyed...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/che ... _blog.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Iran loses top missile expert in explosions sparked by failed bid to fit nuclear warhead on Shahab-3

DEBKAfile Special Report November 12, 2011, 9:53 PM (GMT+02:00)

Brig. Hassan Moghadam, head of Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) missile development and sections of its nuclear program, was killed in one of the two consecutive explosions that hit two IRGC bases 46 kilometers west of Tehran Saturday, Nov. 12. The official fatality figure is 32. Fourteen hours after explosions blasts could still be heard and fires raged. DEBKAfile's exclusive sources report the bases are located in Malard, a town in the Shahryar district. The Moadarres facility was the first to be hit, while the second and bigger blast occurred at Amir-al-Mo'menin.

Their force was such that the Iranian Red Crescent rushed 45 ambulances to the two facilities plus 23 buses converted to first-aid vehicles and a helicopter to evacuate the critically injured.

However, only six rescue workers were given access to the Moadarres base and none were permitted to enter Amir-al-Mo'menin because of the facility's sensitivity.

Fourteen hours after the explosions, the blasts continued and fires raged. Surrounding streets were closed and reporters kept away from the scene.

Our sources report increasing evidence that the first explosion was caused by a failed effort to mount a possible nuclear warhead on a Shahab-3 intermediate-range missile.

It was powerful enough to shatter windows and damage shops in Tehran. People gathering on street corners wondered if Israel had attacked Iran's nuclear sites or destroyed Revolutionary Guards missile bases. They recalled Supreme Ruler Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's threat Thursday, Nov. 10 to take the war to the streets of Tel Aviv if Tehran was attacked.

IRGC spokesman, Brig. Ramedan Sharif, sharply denied what he said was speculation that the military base was linked to Iran's nuclear program. "This blast is not related to any nuclear tests," he said in response to widespread rumors. He insisted the explosion had occurred at an ammo store which was part of the Guards' "self-sufficiency" system, a term they apply to their munitions plants and the factories manufacturing missile components.

The Iranian authorities, after raising the fatality figure to 32, withheld information on the injured, most of which where transferred to IRGC rather than civilian hospitals. Some may have been foreign engineers or scientists whose presence Tehran is anxious to conceal.

The Emergency Council which deals with extraordinary happenings liable to affect the regime's stability met in emergency session Saturday night.

Earlier Saturday, DEBKAfile reported on the two huge explosions at two separate military bases west of Tehran killing dozens of Iranian Revolutionary Guards (IRGC), wounding many more and trapping an unknown number under rubble.

In Tehran, 40 kilometers away, windows were shattered and damage caused vehicles and shops. The blasts were heard in Tehran's center.

DEBKAfile's military and Iranian sources report that the explosions may have been part of a series carried out by Iranian dissident groups last month.

The suspicion of sabotage was strengthened by the occurrence Friday of a big fire at a Tehran warehouse used according to our sources by the IRGC for crowd dispersal gear.

The ammo base blown up Saturday in the town of Malard in Shahryar district contained large quantities of rubber bullets, tear gas and other ordnance. A short time later, the second explosion hit a light arms depot at a military camp of Bidganeh several kilometers away. That both were accidents is hardly credible.

The two blasts were confirmed by the Iranian lawmaker Hossein Garussi without further details.

Tehran recently broke up an armed dissident group called Oghab. Three members were executed and the others were allowed to flee the country. An organization of that name operates in the United States, but its leader denied involvement in any sabotage operations inside Iran.

http://www.debka.com/article/21474/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Suspicion in Iran that Stuxnet caused Revolutionary Guards base explosions

DEBKAfile Exclusive Report November 18, 2011, 2:29 PM (GMT+02:00)

Is the Stuxnet computer malworm back on the warpath in Iran?

Exhaustive investigations into the deadly explosion last Saturday, Nov. 12 of the Sejil-2 ballistic missile at the Revolutionary Guards (IRGC) Alghadir base point increasingly to a technical fault originating in the computer system controlling the missile and not the missile itself. The head of Iran's ballistic missile program Maj. Gen. Hassan Moghaddam was among the 36 officers killed in the blast which rocked Tehran 46 kilometers away. (Tehran reported 17 deaths although 36 funerals took place.)

Since the disaster, experts have run tests on missiles of the same type as Sejil 2 and on their launching mechanisms.

DEBKAfile's military and Iranian sources disclose three pieces of information coming out of the early IRGC probe:

1. Maj. Gen. Moghaddam had gathered Iran's top missile experts around the Sejil 2 to show them a new type of warhead which could also carry a nuclear payload. No experiment was planned. The experts were shown the new device and asked for their comments.

2. Moghaddam presented the new warhead through a computer simulation attached to the missile. His presentation was watched on a big screen. The missile exploded upon an order from the computer.

The warhead blew first; the solid fuel in its engines next, so explaining the two consecutive bangs across Tehran and the early impression of two explosions, the first more powerful than the second, occurring at the huge 52 sq. kilometer complex of Alghadir.

3. Because none of the missile experts survived and all the equipment and structures pulverized within a half-kilometer radius of the explosion, the investigators had no witnesses and hardly any physical evidence to work from.

Iranian intelligence heads entertain two initial theories to account for the sudden calamity: a) that Western intelligence service or the Israeli Mossad managed to plant a technician among the missile program's personnel and he signaled the computer to order the missile to explode; or b), a theory which they find more plausible, that the computer controlling the missile was infected with the Stuxnet virus which misdirected the missile into blowing without anyone present noticing anything amiss until it was too late.

It is the second theory which has got Iran's leaders really worried because it means that, in the middle of spiraling tension with the United States and Israel or their nuclear weapons program, their entire Shahab 3 and Sejil 2 ballistic missile arsenal is infected and out of commission until minute tests are completed. Western intelligence sources told DEBKAfile that Iran's supreme armed forces chief Gen. Hassan Firouz-Abadi was playing for time when he announced this week that the explosion had "only delayed by two weeks the manufacturing of an experimental product by the Revolutionary Guards which could be a strong fist in the face of arrogance (the United States) and the occupying regime (Israel)."

Iran needs time to thoroughly investigate the causes of the fatal explosion and convince everyone that the computer systems controlling its missiles of the Stuxnet malworm will be cleansed and running in no time just like the Natanz uranium enrichment installation and Bushehr atomic reactor which were decontaminated between June and September 2010.

If indeed Stuxnet is back, the cleanup this time would take several months, according to Western experts - certainly longer than the two weeks estimated by Gen. Firouz-Abadi.

Those experts also rebut the contention of certain Western and Russian computer pros that Stuxnet and another virus called Duqu are linked.

The head of Iran's civil defense program Gholamreza Jalali said this week that the fight against Duqu is "in its initial phase" and the final report "which says which organizations the virus has spread to and what its impacts are has not been complete yet. All the organizations and centers that could be susceptible to being contaminated are under control."

http://www.debka.com/article/21496/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Col., looks like it was either Iranian dissidents or the Stuxnet virus. Either way I am sure the Mossad was involved.


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Oldemandalton wrote:Col., looks like it was either Iranian dissidents or the Stuxnet virus. Either way I am sure the Mossad was involved.

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Agreed - but don't rule out the CIA as well as it is probably more sophisticated technologically than the Mossad when it comes to electronic warfare.

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Col. Flagg wrote:
Oldemandalton wrote:Col., looks like it was either Iranian dissidents or the Stuxnet virus. Either way I am sure the Mossad was involved.

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Agreed - but don't rule out the CIA as well as it is probably more sophisticated technologically than the Mossad when it comes to electronic warfare.
Israeli's rule the roost when it comes to electronic warfare....

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Col. Flagg wrote:
Oldemandalton wrote:Col., looks like it was either Iranian dissidents or the Stuxnet virus. Either way I am sure the Mossad was involved.

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Agreed - but don't rule out the CIA as well as it is probably more sophisticated technologically than the Mossad when it comes to electronic warfare.
Israeli's rule the roost when it comes to electronic warfare....
Really? I never would have guessed. :-o

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Jason wrote:Israeli's rule the roost when it comes to electronic warfare....
Really? I never would have guessed. :-o
Look into Israeli US defense contractors.....they are on the bleeding edge of high tech. Israel manufactures its own nuclear missiles, electronic systems and tanks. Many of the Fortune 100 R&D labs are located in Israel.
TEL AVIV — Israel, setting a new record, has reported more than $4.4 billion in defense exports in 2006.

The Defense Ministry said Israel has become one of the top five defense exporters in the world, behind only the United States, Russia and Britain. Officials said Israeli foreign military sales exceeded $4.4 billion in 2006.

"The Israel defense industry has reached a new record, with an orders backlog based on contracts signed throughout the world that amount to more than $4.4 billion," the ministry said in a statement on Dec. 31.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribun ... 61111.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One of the Fort Worth area's biggest defense contractors doesn't build planes, helicopters or armored vehicles.

Elbit Systems of America just produces vital electronic components and systems that enable pilots and soldiers to effectively operate and guide aircraft and vehicles and precisely aim their weapons.

In an era when defense budgets figure to be tight, projects small and performance requirements high, it's a company that seems well-positioned to thrive.

Based on Marine Creek Parkway in northwest Fort Worth, Elbit Systems of America is the U.S. subsidiary of Israeli defense contractor Elbit Systems Ltd. A $35 million division when General Dynamics sold it in 1993, it expects to report revenue of $1 billion for 2011 -- about half from its local operations and half from a series of acquisitions made over the last decade.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/06/18 ... actor.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JERUSALEM (JTA) -- Israel’s Elbit Systems Ltd. and Israel Aerospace Industries inked a combined $141 million deal with the Turkish Air Force.

The IAI and Elbit subsidiaries will supply Turkey’s Air Force with airborne air and space imagery intelligence systems over the next four years, Israel’s business daily Globes reported.
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2008/12 ... y-ink-deal" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Elbit Systems Ltd. is one of the world's largest defense electronics manufacturers and integrators. Established in 1967, and based in Haifa, Israel, Elbit employs 11,000 people worldwide. Elbit Systems is traded on NASDAQ as well as on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange where it is a constitute of the TA-25 Index of leading shares; As of 2010, over 45% of its stock is owned or controlled by Michael Federmann, who serves as the company's Chairman of the Board.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbit_Systems" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

srael Aerospace Industries (Hebrew: התעשייה האווירית לישראל ha-ta'asiya ha-avirit le-yisra'el) or IAI (תע"א ta`a') is Israel's prime aerospace and aviation manufacturer, producing aerial systems for both military and civilian usage. It has 16,000 employees as of 2007. IAI is wholly owned by the government of Israel. In addition to local construction of fighter aircraft, IAI also designs and builds civil aircraft (including for Gulfstream with aircraft such as the G100/G150 and G200/G250 mid-sized business jets) and performs local maintenance and reconfiguration of foreign-built military and civilian aircraft. In addition, the company works on a number of missile, avionics, and space-based systems. Although IAI's main focus is aviation and high-tech electronics, it also manufactures military systems for ground and naval forces. Many of these products are specially suited for the Israel Defence Forces needs, while others are also marketed to foreign militaries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Ae ... Industries" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...anyways just some tidbits on the big names.....not even delving into the software side. They don't get the attention since they are mainly R&D...
There are approximately 150 defense firms in Israel, with combined revenues of an estimated $3.5 billion. The three largest entities are the government-owned IAI, IMI and the Rafael Arms Development Authority, all of which produce a wide range of conventional arms and advanced defense electronics. The medium-sized privately owned companies include Elbit Systems and the Tadiran Group, which focus mainly on defense electronics. The smaller firms produce a narrower range of products. In all, the industry employs close to 50,000 people, all of whom share a commitment to high levels of research and development and the ability to make use of the IDF's combat experience.

Israel's defense exports are coordinated and regulated through SIBAT - the Foreign Defense Assistance and Defense Export Organization - which is run by the Ministry of Defense. SIBAT's tasks include licensing all defense exports as well as marketing products developed for the IDF, from electronic components to missile boats and tanks. Each year, SIBAT publishes a defense sales directory, an authoritative guide to what the industry has to offer.

In the wake of the Lavi's cancellation, IAI diversified and expanded with funding from the United States, developing the Amos and Ofeq satellites and the world's first operational anti-missile missile system, the Arrow. IAI's unmanned air vehicles (UAV or pilotless aircraft) systems, including the Hunter, have now become standard for military establishments in many countries around world. The company is also engaged in the repair and maintenance of aircraft and helicopters, and in upgrading aircraft with state-of-the-art avionics. It also designs, develops and manufacturers naval and ground systems, electronic warfare and radar equipment and missiles. Company sales in 2000 amounted to $2.18 billion, of which exports accounted for $1.7 billion. In the same year, IAI signed some 1,600 new contracts worth approximately $2.6 billion.

The third government-owned defense firm, the Rafael Arms Development Authority, developed and now manufactures Python and Popeye "smart" airborne missiles, both of which have co-production agreements with major US aerospace companies. In addition, its products include such varied categories as passive armor, naval decoys, observation balloon systems, acoustic torpedo countermeasures, ceramic armor, air-breathing propulsion, and air-to-air, air-to-surface and surface-to-surface missiles.

Elbit Systems, based in Haifa, develops, manufactures and integrates advanced, high-performance defense electronics systems, focusing on upgrade programs for aircraft and armored vehicles. The company also manufactures command, control and communication (C3) systems, and upgrades in weapons platforms and electronic systems and products for both Western and former Eastern bloc countries. In 2000, Elbit Systems merged with another major private-sector defense concern, El-Op Electro-Optics Industries Ltd, and combined sales reached $591 million, up from $436 million the previous year.

The second major private sector defense firm is the Tadiran-Elisra Group, whose subsidiaries specialize in defense electronics. The group's Elisra Electronics offers a range of electronic warfare systems for the military, including radar warning systems, active countermeasure systems, comprehensive self-protection systems, ESM and ELINT systems, and sophisticated communication links complemented by extremely lightweight components and super components. It employs a staff of over 800, two thirds of whom are engineers. Tadiran Electronic Systems designs and produces a wide range of military applications, including intelligence, reconnaissance and electronic warfare and specialized naval communication systems, all tailored to customer specifications. Tadiran Spectralink specializes in pilot-rescue electronic equipment while BVR Systems develops innovative flight simulators for fighter pilots. The group, which is controlled by Koor Industries, announced sales of $284 million in 2000.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... dustry.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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When you've been fighting for your survival for 60+years after have 5 million of your people killed tends to focus your survival instincts.

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Jason wrote:Israeli's rule the roost when it comes to electronic warfare....
Really? I never would have guessed. :-o
Look into Israeli US defense contractors.....they are on the bleeding edge of high tech. Israel manufactures its own nuclear missiles, electronic systems and tanks. Many of the Fortune 100 R&D labs are located in Israel.
TEL AVIV — Israel, setting a new record, has reported more than $4.4 billion in defense exports in 2006.

The Defense Ministry said Israel has become one of the top five defense exporters in the world, behind only the United States, Russia and Britain. Officials said Israeli foreign military sales exceeded $4.4 billion in 2006.

"The Israel defense industry has reached a new record, with an orders backlog based on contracts signed throughout the world that amount to more than $4.4 billion," the ministry said in a statement on Dec. 31.
http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribun ... 61111.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
One of the Fort Worth area's biggest defense contractors doesn't build planes, helicopters or armored vehicles.

Elbit Systems of America just produces vital electronic components and systems that enable pilots and soldiers to effectively operate and guide aircraft and vehicles and precisely aim their weapons.

In an era when defense budgets figure to be tight, projects small and performance requirements high, it's a company that seems well-positioned to thrive.

Based on Marine Creek Parkway in northwest Fort Worth, Elbit Systems of America is the U.S. subsidiary of Israeli defense contractor Elbit Systems Ltd. A $35 million division when General Dynamics sold it in 1993, it expects to report revenue of $1 billion for 2011 -- about half from its local operations and half from a series of acquisitions made over the last decade.
http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/06/18 ... actor.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JERUSALEM (JTA) -- Israel’s Elbit Systems Ltd. and Israel Aerospace Industries inked a combined $141 million deal with the Turkish Air Force.

The IAI and Elbit subsidiaries will supply Turkey’s Air Force with airborne air and space imagery intelligence systems over the next four years, Israel’s business daily Globes reported.
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Elbit Systems Ltd. is one of the world's largest defense electronics manufacturers and integrators. Established in 1967, and based in Haifa, Israel, Elbit employs 11,000 people worldwide. Elbit Systems is traded on NASDAQ as well as on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange where it is a constitute of the TA-25 Index of leading shares; As of 2010, over 45% of its stock is owned or controlled by Michael Federmann, who serves as the company's Chairman of the Board.
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srael Aerospace Industries (Hebrew: התעשייה האווירית לישראל ha-ta'asiya ha-avirit le-yisra'el) or IAI (תע"א ta`a') is Israel's prime aerospace and aviation manufacturer, producing aerial systems for both military and civilian usage. It has 16,000 employees as of 2007. IAI is wholly owned by the government of Israel. In addition to local construction of fighter aircraft, IAI also designs and builds civil aircraft (including for Gulfstream with aircraft such as the G100/G150 and G200/G250 mid-sized business jets) and performs local maintenance and reconfiguration of foreign-built military and civilian aircraft. In addition, the company works on a number of missile, avionics, and space-based systems. Although IAI's main focus is aviation and high-tech electronics, it also manufactures military systems for ground and naval forces. Many of these products are specially suited for the Israel Defence Forces needs, while others are also marketed to foreign militaries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Ae ... Industries" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

...anyways just some tidbits on the big names.....not even delving into the software side. They don't get the attention since they are mainly R&D...
There are approximately 150 defense firms in Israel, with combined revenues of an estimated $3.5 billion. The three largest entities are the government-owned IAI, IMI and the Rafael Arms Development Authority, all of which produce a wide range of conventional arms and advanced defense electronics. The medium-sized privately owned companies include Elbit Systems and the Tadiran Group, which focus mainly on defense electronics. The smaller firms produce a narrower range of products. In all, the industry employs close to 50,000 people, all of whom share a commitment to high levels of research and development and the ability to make use of the IDF's combat experience.

Israel's defense exports are coordinated and regulated through SIBAT - the Foreign Defense Assistance and Defense Export Organization - which is run by the Ministry of Defense. SIBAT's tasks include licensing all defense exports as well as marketing products developed for the IDF, from electronic components to missile boats and tanks. Each year, SIBAT publishes a defense sales directory, an authoritative guide to what the industry has to offer.

In the wake of the Lavi's cancellation, IAI diversified and expanded with funding from the United States, developing the Amos and Ofeq satellites and the world's first operational anti-missile missile system, the Arrow. IAI's unmanned air vehicles (UAV or pilotless aircraft) systems, including the Hunter, have now become standard for military establishments in many countries around world. The company is also engaged in the repair and maintenance of aircraft and helicopters, and in upgrading aircraft with state-of-the-art avionics. It also designs, develops and manufacturers naval and ground systems, electronic warfare and radar equipment and missiles. Company sales in 2000 amounted to $2.18 billion, of which exports accounted for $1.7 billion. In the same year, IAI signed some 1,600 new contracts worth approximately $2.6 billion.

The third government-owned defense firm, the Rafael Arms Development Authority, developed and now manufactures Python and Popeye "smart" airborne missiles, both of which have co-production agreements with major US aerospace companies. In addition, its products include such varied categories as passive armor, naval decoys, observation balloon systems, acoustic torpedo countermeasures, ceramic armor, air-breathing propulsion, and air-to-air, air-to-surface and surface-to-surface missiles.

Elbit Systems, based in Haifa, develops, manufactures and integrates advanced, high-performance defense electronics systems, focusing on upgrade programs for aircraft and armored vehicles. The company also manufactures command, control and communication (C3) systems, and upgrades in weapons platforms and electronic systems and products for both Western and former Eastern bloc countries. In 2000, Elbit Systems merged with another major private-sector defense concern, El-Op Electro-Optics Industries Ltd, and combined sales reached $591 million, up from $436 million the previous year.

The second major private sector defense firm is the Tadiran-Elisra Group, whose subsidiaries specialize in defense electronics. The group's Elisra Electronics offers a range of electronic warfare systems for the military, including radar warning systems, active countermeasure systems, comprehensive self-protection systems, ESM and ELINT systems, and sophisticated communication links complemented by extremely lightweight components and super components. It employs a staff of over 800, two thirds of whom are engineers. Tadiran Electronic Systems designs and produces a wide range of military applications, including intelligence, reconnaissance and electronic warfare and specialized naval communication systems, all tailored to customer specifications. Tadiran Spectralink specializes in pilot-rescue electronic equipment while BVR Systems develops innovative flight simulators for fighter pilots. The group, which is controlled by Koor Industries, announced sales of $284 million in 2000.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... dustry.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dang... thought I was more up to speed on this issue. :ymblushing: Makes me wonder if maybe in fact the nano-thermate for the destruction of the World Trade Centers came from Israel after all? :-\ :-o

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Dang... thought I was more up to speed on this issue. Makes me wonder if maybe in fact the nano-thermate for the destruction of the World Trade Centers came from Israel after all?

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Explosions rocking Tehran spark warning of 'big event'

Suspicions grow that Iranian blast targeted Khamenei

Posted: November 28, 2011
8:44 pm Eastern
By Reza Kahlili
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Two massive blasts on Nov. 12 that hit near Tehran, the Iranian capital, and rocked the city may have been an attempt to assassinate the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who had been scheduled to be there at the time of the explosions, sources suggest.

Now the question is whether the Iranians will retaliate.

At the time of the explosions, Iranians found themselves wondering if Israel had attacked. The International Atomic Energy Agency's recent report on Iran's nuclear weapons program and the warnings of military action by Israeli officials have alarmed Iranians about the possibility of war.

The simultaneous explosions, which hit the Iranian Revolutionary Guards' base 28 miles west of Tehran, not only shook the surrounding area but were heard and felt throughout Tehran, even breaking car and building windows.

Revolutionary Guard officials soon announced that the explosions occurred at one of their ammunition depots while ammunition was being moved and claimed at first that 15 people were killed.

Iran's state-owned media rapidly changed the story multiple times on the number of fatalities and the cause of the incidents, but they all ruled out the possibility of a plot and stated that the explosions had nothing to do with Iran's nuclear program. Then they announced that Brig. Gen. Hassan Tehrani-Moghadam, the "architect of Iran’s missile program," was one of those killed.

The shock was palpable among the Iranian leaders, and soon sources within Iran revealed that the correct number of casualties was well over 100. It also was reported that right after the explosions, tanks and armored vehicles mobilized in and around Tehran and in other provinces.

Photos reveal that at the site where the explosions happened, there was an image created on the ground that referenced the "Madhi," the "12th imam" expected by Shia Muslims who describe him as their "Islamic messiah." They believe he will appear at the end of time to reign. Further, the belief is that Muslims can hasten the appearance of the Madhi by bringing about cataclysmic violence on earth.

The "Madhi" reference, therefore, at the site of the still-unexplained explosions raises an ominous possibility that Iran may believe its best next move is violence, Western observers note.

Satellite image of the guards' base in Bidganeh, near the town of Shahriar. Before the explosion, it shows tunnels into the mountain similar to the Fardo nuclear facility, indicating that possible nuclear work also was conducted at this military facility. IAEA has not been authorized by the Islamic regime to inspect Iranian military bases.

Satellite image from the same site shows the word "Ya - Mahdi" carved in the facility. See Article for pictures. Mahdi is the name of the Shiite's 12th Imam and the last Islamic messiah who will reappear at the end of time. Nuclear and missile programs of the radicals ruling Iran are directly connected to that belief Khamenei attended the funeral of those killed and described the severity of the incident: "The bloody incident, which resulted in the martyrdom of some of our best, including the superior commander and scientist Hassan Moghadam, is truly bitter and sad."

Although Iranian officials claimed the explosions were accidental, their statements later indicated that there was more to the incident.

One explosion "set back the manufacture of the (Guards') researched product only for two weeks, which could be a punch in the mouth of the global arrogance (forces of imperialism) and the occupying (Zionists)," said Maj. Gen. Hassan Firouzabadi, the chairman of Iran's Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Referring to Israel, Guards Gen. Masoud Jazayeri said the "Zionist regime" should expect shocking explosions in Tel Aviv and other cities. Iran is blaming the explosions on Israel.

Interestingly, a little more than a week later, a similar explosion occurred at a weapons' depot of the terrorist group Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. And there have been subsequent reports of more explosions.
But most revealing was the statement reflected on the Revolutionary Guards' media outlet, Javan Online, by Mehdi Taeb, the head of the Ammar Garrison and one of the most fanatical figures in the Islamic regime. He stated that He "a big event will take place after the martyrdom of Hassan Moghadam." He added that the deceased general was working on a project that, despite his absence, will soon come together and result in the "big event."

As reported in May, Khamenei ordered the Guards to arm their missiles with nuclear warheads before the end of the Iranian year – March 2012 – and that the Guards were already in possession of two nuclear-capable warheads. According to the agreement between the Revolutionary Guards and the Ministry of Defense, eight more nuclear warheads will be produced and delivered to the Revolutionary Guards within the next several months.

It is now clear that the missile project the Guards were working on was the one Khamenei ordered that would weaponize their missiles. Even though there is no evidence pointing to a nuclear blast, sources indicate that IRGC missile experts were working on a new warhead that could carry a nuclear payload, and the explosion not only caused major devastation to the Guards' base but much of the surrounding area.
Sources within Iran also indicate that Khamenei may have been the target of the explosion. At the time, he was scheduled to arrive at the site to witness the Guards' advancements. If true, this shows deep infiltration within the Iranian leadership and a direct warning that assassination of the highest ranks in Iran is on the table.

It was not the first successful attack on Iran's nuclear and missile programs. There have been several others – from the assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists, to Stuxnet and other viruses infecting their nuclear facilities, to mysterious explosions. In 2008, an explosion destroyed a Revolutionary Guards convoy carrying military equipment destined for Hezbollah in Lebanon, and in 2010 Iran's Shahab-3 ballistic missiles depot inside a Revolutionary Guards' base in the western Iranian province of Lurestan was struck.
However, the most recent incident has shaken the Iranian leaders to the core. Out of security concern, Khamenei and Guards' top commanders immediately canceled an important event commemorating Eid-E-Ghadir, which recalls Muhammad's purported appointment of Ali as the first of his hereditary successors. Last year on that occasion, Khamenei delivered his sermon to all top commanders and tens of thousands of Guards and Basiji forces.

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Oldemandalton wrote:Dang... thought I was more up to speed on this issue. Makes me wonder if maybe in fact the nano-thermate for the destruction of the World Trade Centers came from Israel after all?

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Dalton, do a little research into Israel's Mossad to find out what their expertise is and then do some homework on Israel's Negev Special Weapons Research Center near Dimona, specifically, what they make there. You might not be laughing afterwards. You do know the Mossad was involved in 9/11 right?

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Dalton, do a little research into Israel's Mossad to find out what their expertise is and then do some homework on Israel's Negev Special Weapons Research Center near Dimona, specifically, what they make there. You might not be laughing afterwards. You do know the Mossad was involved in 9/11 right?
Short memory Col? :)
http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... a&start=30

Conspiracy Theories About Jews and 9/11 Cause Dangerous Mutations in Global Anti-Semitism
http://www.adl.org/PresRele/ASInt_13/4346_13.htm

9/11 Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theories Still Abound
http://www.adl.org/main_Anti_Semitism_D ... eories.htm

Christopher Bollyn has been a Guest on David Duke's Show a Number of Times
http://911review.com/denial/holocaust.html#davidduke

Insightful 911 Investigator Christopher Bollyn =))
http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/to ... er-bollyn/

Articles by Christopher Bollyn;

Israel's Secret Super Thermite Lab =))

The Zionists Who Gained from 9-11

Israel's Vast Spy Network of Fake Art Students

Controlled Press Hides Chertoff's Israeli Roots

Did Mossad Deceive the U.S. Military on 9-11?

The Israeli Connection to 9-11

The Zionist Strategy to Balkanize Iraq

Is Ariel Sharon the Mastermind of 9-11?

The Ties between Netanyahu and Silverstein

How the Zionist Media Network Interprets 9-11

The Israeli Code on U.S. Government Computers

Ehud Olmert's Ties to 9-11

The Zionist Network behind 9-11

The 9-11 Cover-Up: Italian Gangsters and Jewish Bosses

Mayor Giuliani, Senator D'Amato & Israeli Intelligence

Is 9-11 Judge Working for Israel?

Michael Chertoff's Childhood in Israel

Ehud Olmert's Secret Visit to New York on Eve of 9-11

Top Secret: Ehud Olmert's 9-11 Visit to NYC

The Mossadniks of 9-11: Sivan and Paul Kurzberg

Voxeo's Ties to 9-11 and the Israeli Military

The Zionist Money Behind 9-11

Ehud Barak - Architect of 9-11

Mossad in Germany and 9-11 Disinfo

Friends of Israel and the Treason of 9/11

How Ehud Barak Pulled Off 9-11

Obama is Obliged to Arrest Ehud Barak - 9-11

The Gang of Czech Jews around the Collapses of 9-11

"Israel Did 9-11" - U.S. Military Expert Supports Bollyn Thesis

The Zion Crime Factory - Israel and 9/11

The Israeli Connection to 9/11

9/11 and Israel: Interview with Alan Sabrosky

Questions about Olmert's 9/11 Visit to NYC

Israel and 9/11: Mossad in Florida

The Sarfati Connection, Art Students & Israeli Support to Colombian Drug Lords

Behind Closed Doors: Israelis Dismissed from 9/11 Trial

Zionist Judge Sets Arbitrary Time Limit on 9/11 Trial

Eric Holder: The Zionist Agent & the "Mastermind of 9/11"






Christopher Bollyn must see a Jew under ever rock! =))

Oh BTW the Holocaust never happened according to Bollyn. 8-|



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Nuke carrier leads US strike force into Syria waters

The above link is a you tube vid.

Can someone plz post a link or advise on how to post the the full you tube vid so that it can be played from within this post, thanx.

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Very conveniently protestors attacked the British Embassy in Tehran and now the UK Government are demanding international sanctions against Iran.

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LDSNZ wrote:Nuke carrier leads US strike force into Syria waters

The above link is a you tube vid.

Can someone plz post a link or advise on how to post the the full you tube vid so that it can be played from within this post, thanx.

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Russia Times? :))

How about the Gog and Magog Times?

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