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What are the "the Scriptures of the Lost Tribes of Israel"?

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I'm moving this discussion over from the "POLYGAMY Law of Melchizedek’s Salem" thread http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... =1&t=18746
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While studying the (un-cannonized) Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel I came across this practice of polygamy as they practiced it in Scandinavia before the 8th Century. Bruce Wydner, who has an amazing perspective on history, with exceptional abilities, has shared with us his perspective on the subject.

I personally find Bruce's perspective to be of more worth than that of these other posters who seem to think that Brigham Young or John Taylor can do us any favors in this discussion, when they are not here to defend their words, and the Holy Spirit can teach so much. The Anglo/Saxon/Jutes were successful in practicing polygamy for many centuries, unlike these most recent times to establish polygamy. It just may be that we could learn a lot from the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel on this and related subjects.

Darren,

to what are you referring when you state "the (un-cannonized) Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel" / "the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel" ?


Are you referring to the Norse/Icelandic Eddas (both the Elder/Poetic an also the Younger/Prose compiled by Snorri Sturluson; including and maybe especially the Volsunga)? Sturulson's Heimskringla,and the Ynglinga saga? How about the Nibelungenlied? Wagner's Ring Cycle? Hans Christian Anderson? The Brothers Grimm's Germanic Fairy Tales?
Elias Lönnrot 's compilation of Finnish folklore - The Kalevala?

Or is there something else to which you are pointing, a collection of records similar to the Bible, Book of Mormon, or even the Mayan Codex & Dead Sea Scrolls that shows quite clearly the gospel, and not merely a type, shadow or faint echoes of the truth, nor an adulteration/dilution of the Gospel - as the Apocrypha & Pseudepigrapha are (Book of Enoch, Book of Jasher, Adam & Eve, etc.)?

I ask this seeking understanding, not in mocking.

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Darren wrote:
HeirofNumenor wrote:Darren,

to what are you referring when you state "the (un-cannonized) Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel" / "the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel" ?

Are you referring to ...
Yes those books are important works in studying the Gospel of Christ's visit to Germany, Denmark and Scandinavia, other important resources include Monumenta Germaniae Historica and the large encyclopedia sized Dictionary of the Germanic Language by the Grimm Brothers.

Most importantly is the works of Bruce Wydner that guide you through the LDS perspective, in introducing you to the Gospel of the lost tribes of Israel. In Bruce Wydner's books is distilled the Gospel Story from all of these collections and works, and by his efforts that go way beyond reading a bunch of old books.

The Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel are the basis to our Restored Church, the Free Enterprise System and Constitution, D&C 86:8-11.

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Darren

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We'll get them when they come, I imagine.

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We, members of the Church are the literal gathering lost tribes of Israel.

Via the internet is the continuing rediscovery of our culture, our heritage and the story that has lingered and persisted of Jesus Christ's visit to our ancestors in their homeland in the North.

The Doctrine and Covenants are an example of the continuation of our heritage, through revelation, to the prophets of the lost tribes of Israel. D&C 86:11 “Therefore, blessed are ye if ye continue in my goodness,” is of the continuation of the ancestral lost tribes of Israel Gospel culture. As also is the constitution an example of the continuation of our heritage, and the elders of Israel who save the constitution will need to understand that heritage and bring our culture back from the efforts of the Apostate to “drive the church into the wilderness,” (D&C 86:3) and reclaim our superior standing above all creatures on the earth, and live together by the Law from the New Jerusalem.

Bruce Wydner is your guide through this history, these Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel, and I am also at your service. Just as he served in that capacity when Cleon Skousen said to Bruce Wydner, "You and me, we are going to write The Fifth Thousand Years."

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Sorry Darren. I have read most everything you have posted... and while I will say it has brought to me a different perspective on world history and the battle's between the apostate, exilarch, anti-christ, etc. against the followers of Christ through the centuries...I highly doubt those writings will ever be considered scripture.
26 And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves; and they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence.

27 And an highway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep.

28 Their enemies shall become a prey unto them,

29 And in the barren deserts there shall come forth pools of living water; and the parched ground shall no longer be a thirsty land.

30 And they shall bring forth their rich treasures unto the children of Ephraim, my servants.
It seems to me that this prophecy is still yet to be fulfilled. I expect that when this happens, we will then receive the scriptures of the lost tribes.
11 After this vision closed, the heavens were again opened unto us; and Moses appeared before us, and committed unto us the keys of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north.
The keys for leading the ten tribes from the land of the north were given to the prophet Joseph Smith and would have been passed down from then until now to our current prophet, Thomas S. Monson, the first presidency, and the twelve apostles. I'm not aware of these keys being passed to Bruce Wydner.

Are you implying that the prophet and the church are just unaware of these scriptures and eventually they will come around to see that the writings of Bruce are the long awaited for writings of the lost ten tribes? :-o
12 For behold, I shall speak unto the Jews and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the Nephites and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto the other tribes of the house of Israel, which I have led away, and they shall write it; and I shall also speak unto all nations of the earth and they shall write it.

13 And it shall come to pass that the Jews shall have the words of the Nephites, and the Nephites shall have the words of the Jews; and the Nephites and the Jews shall have the words of the lost tribes of Israel; and the lost tribes of Israel shall have the words of the Nephites and the Jews.
Are you implying that Bruce is one of the prophets of the lost ten tribes that the Lord commanded to write?

With the polygamy thread and now this, you and the pushing of the writings of Bruce are starting to lose a lot of credibility for my part.

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truthseeker wrote:...
26 And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves; and they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence.

27 And an highway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep.

28 Their enemies shall become a prey unto them,

29 And in the barren deserts there shall come forth pools of living water; and the parched ground shall no longer be a thirsty land.

30 And they shall bring forth their rich treasures unto the children of Ephraim, my servants.
In my mind the "they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence." is the installation of buried fiber optic cables that carry the data that include the Internet. The lost tribes of Israel to really get going with their return by "Riding the Light."

It seems to me that this prophecy is in the process of being fulfilled with the advent of the Internet. And we are currently in the process of receiving and organizing the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel.

Bruce Wydner has met directly with President Kimball and President Hinkley. When Bruce explained to President Hinkley his work, he was told "God bless, you." And President Kimball who had known Bruce from before, while contemplating the humble beginnings of the "Ride the Light" project at BYU, after he had learned that BYU had failed and Bruce Wydner's program was a success, acknowledged Bruce Wydner and his work to Bruce's associate, then later in front of Bruce and other Church leaders at the Lion House. Just like Cleon Skousen's assignment that he received from President McKay, Bruce has been a party connected to and operating under Prophetic direction.

You are right Keys reside with the President, the work is under his direction. Bruce Wydner is in good standing with the Church, and has continued to operate under the blessing and council of his leaders, and his works continue under that same authority and blessing.

It may be that as these Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel continue to come to light, it will help determine who it is among the lost tribes, who remain the doubters and who it is that receive faith by them, and help save the constitution and establish Zion by these true principles, that have always been called the Free Enterprise System, or the system of working together by our covenants, just as the Anglo/Saxon/Jutes did before the 8th Century.

And yes a prophet he is, much like any prophet or prophetess engaged in the work of revelation in the responsibilities they are given, but he is not "the Prophet." Big difference.

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Darren wrote:
truthseeker wrote:...
26 And they who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord; and their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves; and they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence.

27 And an highway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep.

28 Their enemies shall become a prey unto them,

29 And in the barren deserts there shall come forth pools of living water; and the parched ground shall no longer be a thirsty land.

30 And they shall bring forth their rich treasures unto the children of Ephraim, my servants.
In my mind the "they shall smite the rocks, and the ice shall flow down at their presence." is the installation of buried fiber optic cables that carry the data that include the Internet. The lost tribes of Israel to really get going with their return by "Riding the Light."

It seems to me that this prophecy is in the process of being fulfilled with the advent of the Internet. And we are currently in the process of receiving and organizing the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel.

Bruce Wydner has met directly with President Kimball and President Hinkley. When Bruce explained to President Hinkley his work, he was told "God bless, you." And President Kimball who had known Bruce from before, while contemplating the humble beginnings of the "Ride the Light" project at BYU, after he had learned that BYU had failed and Bruce Wydner's program was a success, acknowledged Bruce Wydner and his work to Bruce's associate, then later in front of Bruce and other Church leaders at the Lion House. Just like Cleon Skousen's assignment that he received from President McKay, Bruce has been a party connected to and operating under Prophetic direction.

You are right Keys reside with the President, the work is under his direction. Bruce Wydner is in good standing with the Church, and has continued to operate under the blessing and council of his leaders, and his works continue under that same authority and blessing.

It may be that as these Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel continue to come to light, it will help determine who it is among the lost tribes, who remain the doubters and who it is that receive faith by them, and help save the constitution and establish Zion by these true principles, that have always been called the Free Enterprise System, or the system of working together by our covenants, just as the Anglo/Saxon/Jutes did before the 8th Century.

And yes a prophet he is, much like any prophet or prophetess engaged in the work of revelation in the responsibilities they are given, but he is not "the Prophet." Big difference.

God Bless,
Darren
Huge red flags just went up all over the place. Sorry Darren, I am just am not buying it.

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Meeting Iohni Wolfgram in 1993 my wife and I received a blessing under his hands, I came to realize that I had met a prophet among the Tongan People. And I know a lot of Tongan people agree with me on this one. "By their works ye shall know them." Thank God for Iohani Wolfgram.

When I met Bruce Wydner in 1995 and my wife and I began to receive of his perspective, one on one, I came to realize that I had met a prophet among the lost tribes of Israel. And other people are coming to realize this as well. I was able to recognize again the humble earmarking of a prophet among his people.

Bruce will never be The Prophet of any church, but his lost tribes of Israel people will be looking to him to strengthen their love of the Gospel, and for guidance to help save the constitution.

He is a prophet to the people who will buy it.
Bruce Wydner wrote:Christian Europe’s And Now The World’s
“FREE ENTERPRISE SYSTEM”


With the Victory of the Christian Side of the centuries-long World War known as, “The Crusades,” The Fleet of White Christian Europe (with the Invention from the Craftsmen of Europe’s Guild System that won that Victory in the Crusades — Guns) extended the range of the Waters of the world which it controlled from the North Atlantic to all of the Oceans of the World.

As the “international custom as evidence of a general practice accepted as law” — of The International Court of Justice at The Hague (and among its predecessors back through time) as well as of the United Nations since its founding — as practiced among the Merchants involved in Christian Commerce, the Customs that have been the way that White Christian Europe has done its Business, back through time, have today become the Customs for doing Business of the World.

It has become common practice for the People of the World to call these Customs of Europe’s Merchants, “The Free Enterprise System.” Technically these Ancient Customs of the Merchants of Europe are designated, “The Law Merchant.”

These Christian Merchants always operated out of “The United (City-) States of Europe,” the Union of fortified harbors etc. that always called itself by the ancient Viking name, “The Hansa.” And, from the beginning of all records and memory of their Law, the basis of the Law Merchant has always been the presumption that these White Christian Merchants were doing all that they did “IN THE GOOD FAITH” of the Lord Jesus Christ.

We may swiftly descend from the sublime to the ridiculous to review the way that the people of the Mediterranean Race prostituted this “economic aspect” of the True Religion of the Lord Jesus Christ with their “All Fine-payers in Christendom are a-tone-d at the Tone of the Tone” Fiasco that made the Roman Catholic Mass in Roman Catholic Cathedrals the essence of Medieval “Fin-ance.”

One could still observe this same Medieval Fiasco in rural Mexico as late as the 1970’s. They only held “Fair” or Market Days in a rural village on those days when people went to Confession. The “Fin-es” that those who went to Confession had levied against them and which they were solemnly obligated to pay to the church located adjacent to that Market, were the Funds that “fin-anced” the transactions that took place in that Market. And, just as an extra insurance that the credit of the fin-ancial institution fin-ancing that Market (the rural church located immediately adjacent to it) was not doubted, there were a lot of gold statuettes, figurines, furnishings etc. on its premises that insured satisfactory payment.

This Mediterranean “Fiasco” is an obvious corruption of something — “But what?” The Northern European Merchants’ Free Enterprise System finds all of their sophisticated Business Customs originating in the ancient Vikings’ and then the Crusaders’ commitment to do all that they do in the Good Faith of the Son of God.

The shameless corruptors, living off of Mediterranean Statecraft, that were resolved through the ages to gyp all of the suckers who fall for their corruptions, maintain that they have something to do with this same Being.

Ultimately the Free Enterprise System is the way that White Christian Northern Europeans BUY and SELL — according to the way that one may observe how people BUY and SELL among them, back to the beginning of their records.

“Well, where do White Christian Northern Europeans get their Customs for how they BUY and SELL?”

The “BUY” side is very obvious to linguists as well as to all of the people who still live throughout Northern Europe today. A “by” is a “township” throughout Scandinavia and Britain. The Townmeetings of all English-speaking Townships enact “BY-laws” or “Township Laws.” North American Corporations are imitations of New England Townships, and the rules which their Boards of Directors or Stockholders’ Meetings enact are their “BY-laws” also. Many Townships in Britain still have the word “by” as a part of their names — “Derby, Thorganby etc.” All Townships in Scandinavia are called “by-s” till this day. A “by” is where one “a-bi-des.”

The way that one says the word “by” in Scandinavia sounds like “buu” with a bit of a “y” influence. It could be that the English word that is spelled “bu-y” is for the specific Business Customs which English people observed Viking maritime people following in England as they had in Scandinavia. Whatever could be the reason for this specific spelling, the fact is ― that the people of the Townships of Northern Europe, from time immemorial, went to the vicinity of their Township’s Meetinghouse, regularly located in the biggest settlement therein, to “shop” for the things that they needed — that they would “go to town” to “buy” these things.

However, that is only one of the vestiges of what to nearly everybody there is the obvious origin of the Custom of “BUY-ing” among Northern Europeans.

All across the trade routes of the large lakes of Southern Sweden (Götaland, Juteland or Gothland) many of the large trading centers are named (something-) “buy-ing” (or “shopp-ing”). There are: Lidköping, Falköping, Jonköping, Linköping, Norköping, Nyköping, and Malmköping. North of there, in Uppland, one finds: Köping and Enköping.

The Swedish word “köping” is pronounced: “ch-” (lips formed to say “o” but voicing “eh”) “-ping.” It sounds something like “cherping.” The Swedish word for “to buy” is “köpa.” The Swedish word “köping” means “buying.” We get both of our English words “shop” and “cheap” from this ancient Scandinavian word “köp.”

At the end of the Crusades the Crusaders of Sweden rushed to the eastern frontier of Finland to make its lakes there Sweden’s barrier against Genghis Khan’s 700,000-man Cavalry coming to attack White Christian Western Europe that had been winning the Crusades. This made Finland a part of Sweden down till after the French Revolution. One result of this was that every city in Finland was named a “buy-ing.” The Swedish word “köping” came out in Finnish as “kaupunki” by the same pronunciation rules by which the Swedish word “Helsing” became “Helsinki” in Finnish. Thereafter the Finnish word for a “shop” became “kauppa.”

To the south of Scandinavia the Dutch, whose language, from the time of the Crusades, became the spoken language of the Hansa = Free Enterprise System, have used the word “kopen” to mean “to buy.” Sea-faring Europeans started calling the Danish city, that Scandinavians name “Köpen-hamn,” “Copen-hagen.”

Most people who are familiar with the two brother Germanic languages of Dutch and “Deutsch” (German) understand that the Dutch word for “to buy,” “kopen,” is the same as the German word for “to buy,” “kaufen.”

The German word for a “Merchant” is a “Kaufman” — a “buyer.”

So, people can easily see how the Germanic-languages-speaking People of Northwestern Europe, whose ancient Customs for doing Business have now been adopted by the entire world and named, “The Free Enterprise System,” perhaps used to say something like, “Let’s go to ‘town,’ to our ‘buy,’ to ‘shop’; and let’s hope that we can get what we want ‘cheap.’“

This everyday part of the linguistic life of the neighborhoods of Northern Europe becomes profound to people who have lived during the 20th Century and who are aware of the way that linguistic innovations were introduced into Northern Europe during the Middle Ages. When Mediterranean Catholicism took over the mental environment of that area it told its inhabitants that it called their Townships or “Buys” by the Roman word, “Communes,” since the main feature of these Communes was the fact that the people therein assembled weekly, every Sunday, at their Buy Meetinghouse to take what Roman Catholicism named the “Communion” of the Lord’s Supper.

The Steppes Persecutors of the White Christian Race of Europe have taunted them throughout the 20th Century by challenging their most heart-felt Customs. These Persecutors maintained that the Communes of White Christian Europe had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Lord Jesus Christ — that the factual “-ism” of all of the Communes of White Christian Northern Europe was nothing more than a thieving economic agenda that had nothing to do with Christ since all of these Townships or Buys had nothing to do with Roman Catholicism; they were all there functioning in the same way that they still do before Catholicism got there.

Taunted to terror by this barrage, the People of the USA were bilked into, what became an, about, $5 Trillion National Debt to these Persecutors before superior US Technology destroyed the military threat of Soviet Communism.

So, the Townships, the Buys, the Köpings, Kaupunkis, Köpen-hamns etc. of Northern Europe are where its people buy — and they think, or thought, that that centered on Jesus — about which thinking their Taunters drove them to distraction throughout the 20th Century — making that distraction the biggest issue of the Century.

However, a “buy” which a person makes anywhere in the Free Enterprise System today is only the “reaction” side of the Buying and Selling that make up the System. An individual, who has come into possession of some amount of “the coin of the realm” with which he or she is able to “buy” something, is only a tiny participation in the System. These are hardly the people who make up the Rules for how the overall System operates.

“Who did make up the Rules for how the Free Enterprise System operates? Who was the original Author of all of these Customs by which the Entire World today Buys and Sells? Who invented this Concept represented to all of the World today by this Germanic Word, ‘SALE’? What is the Free Enterprise System’s Concept of the ‘Sale’? What EXACTLY is it, and exactly WHERE does it come from?”

If one looks up the word “sale” in Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary one sees: [ME, fr. OE. sala, fr. ON — more at SELL]. If one looks up “sell” in that Dictionary one sees: [M(iddle) E(nglish) …, fr.(om) O(ld) E(nglish) …, O(ld) N(orse) sala sale] (the information in parentheses added).

Elsewhere in that Dictionary one finds these points of information about the word “sala.” [French salon, from Italian salone, augmentative of sala hall, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German sal hall; ...]

This citation in Webster’s Dictionary mentions “sala hall, of Germanic origin.”

In many ways the Free Enterprise System of England has always been, and today that System for the Entire World still is, directed from “the London Guildhall,” the City Hall of the ancient, independent, medieval City State of World Commerce of London. All of the Medieval City States of the Hanseatic League across Northern Europe had a “City Hall.” A modern descendant of Medieval Guilds are Labor Unions. When one goes to a “Labor Temple” one may go to its “Hiring Hall” to sign up for work. The London Guildhall has always maintained a “Temple.” It is still there today. The people who wish to try to maintain the Customs of the Guild of Medieval Masons maintain a strong relation to the Temple of London and to the specific organization that ran it.

So the words “sale” and “sell” come from the Old English and Old Norse word “sala”; and “sala” is also the Germanic word for a “hall,” which is a structure that has always been at the heart of the operations of the organizations that created the Free Enterprise System.
In German dictionaries the English word “hall” translates into the German word “Saal” (in the singular), many “Säle” (in the plural).

In Dutch dictionaries the English word “hall” is pronounced exactly the same way as that German word but is spelled “Zaal.”
In Swedish the English word “hall” is “sal”; “the hall” is “salen”; many “halls” is “salar.” The Swedish word for “to club together” is “sala.” In Finnish a “hall” is a “Sali.”

In Latin languages the suffix “-on” or “-one” is “augmentative,” which means that that suffix is used to show that something is “big.” A “hall” is a “big room.” However the Normans (or others before them) got the Germanic word “sala” used for so many kinds of “rooms” in France: “salle à manger” = “dining room,” “salle d’ attente” = “waiting room,” “salle de bain” = “bathroom,” “salle de lecture” = “reading room,” that the word “salle” just became the word “room” in French.

When the French wanted to get back to make the point that a “salle” was a “big room,” like a “hall,” they added the suffix “-on” to make the new word “salon.” In French the “-on” is pronounced something like the sound in the English word “own.” To keep that sound in Dutch the Dutch language uses a double “o” = “oo.” In the Netherlands the Dutch surname, “Roosevelt,” meaning “rose field,” is pronounced “row-se-felt.” For the Dutch to use the French expression “salon,” meaning a “big room,” they have to spell it “saloon.”
So, once again, our searching seems to have brought us to a glimpse of something going from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Somewhere in North Europe there was a hall that seems to have been named “sala” or “sal,” meaning “sale,” that was a “temple” of the working people of Europe, of their Guild System. This Hall or Temple has such a profound effect on the people of North Europe that all halls in Germanic countries and Scandinavia are named for it till this day. To the extent that the proceedings in this Hall at the origin of the Guild System were “confidential,” that explains why, in Finland, where every hall is called a “Sali,” the root of the word for “secret” is “sala.” Moreover, every “room” in the French-speaking world is named a “salle,” from that same origin; and it seems that the word for every neighborhood beer hall in the English-speaking world (when such are called “saloons”) means that they got their name from that same origin.

So, in answer to the question of “what” exactly is a “sale,” it seems that it has a relationship to a great “hall,” a “temple” somewhere in North Europe that has something to do with the origin of the way that the people there have always worked together. And, even though we get this information from so nefarious a place as the tracing of the origin of the word “saloon” in Webster’s Dictionary, we also find there, at that same place in that Dictionary, the information that that word is also [ … akin to Lithuanian sala village], which may help us on our way to find out exactly “where” the concept of the “sale” comes from.

Near to the coast, in the Country of Lithuania, one finds the Lithuanian town named, Salantai. Near the Latvian border, in the middle of the Country, one finds the town of Salociai. From there, a short distance away to the southeast, one finds the town of Salamiestis; and, east of there, on the eastern border of the Country, is the town of Salakas. Latvia borders Lithuania on the north. On the west coast of Latvia one finds the town of Ventspils. Just to the south of Latvia’s capital, Riga, one finds the city of Salaspils. Between the two and near Lithuania one finds the town of Saldus.

Westward from these cities and towns, out in the Baltic Sea, one finds the large Swedish island of Gotland, the headquarters of the Hanseatic League during the centuries of the Crusades. These cities and towns of Latvia and Lithuania were places near the Hansa’s headquarters whereto its merchants sent merchandise intended for transshipment etc. to inland areas in Russia and elsewhere. “Did these cities and towns of Latvia and Lithuania take the Old Norse word ‘sala,’ meaning ‘sale,’ as the names for their markets, to which these Viking Merchants from the Baltic freighted their goods for sale there (as well as to transport them from there eastward into Russia etc.), in a way that is somewhat analogous to the way in which all of the towns to the west of them had developed the meaning ‘buy’ from the function that their ‘B-u-ys’ fulfilled as the centers to which the people from surrounding neighborhoods came to ‘buy’ the things which they needed?”

The World might think that all of the Business Customs of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe are centered in that word “Buy.” Indeed, therein is the genius of the concept of: “The Consent of The Governed.” The people of the world today now all have to be entreated into giving their Consent — as they individually CHOOSE the things which they WANT to BUY. This is so much better than the scare from failed Communism which imposter of these Business Customs fought against people being able to individually choose what they wanted to Buy.

But, as alluded to, although a tiny participation in the overall System is a vote of approval cast in favor of the System, it is not the concept of “the Buy” that is the ESTABLISHMENT or the BEGINNING of the overall System. It is the concept of “the SALE” that is the establishment or the beginning of the Free Enterprise System. All of the Ancestral Customs, including the Business Customs, of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe BEGAN or were established with the Introduction among them of the concept of: “The SALE.”


The Beginning


Let’s suppose that these cities and towns of northern Lithuania and of Latvia, of which we have spoken, were established by the Crusaders who, in the 1200’s, flocked to the east shore of the Baltic Sea, with their Guns, to stop Genghis Khan’s 700,000 mounted lancers coming to conquer White Christian Europe; or, let us suppose that they were established by those Crusaders’ predecessors in the Hanseatic League. They may have been named by those Crusaders or their predecessors in the Hansa for this Scandinavian concept of “the Sale” = “Sala” because of the activities of the Scandinavian Hansa’s headquarters, located nearby, in a northwesterly direction from them. The Hansa is what transmitted to the world the concept of “the Sale” = “Sala,” and the Hansa was the provisioner of the Crusaders and of their supporting populations in that area.

“Is it obvious where the Scandinavian Hansa originally got the concept of ‘the Sale’ = ‘Sala’?”

Yes.

All of the Customs of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe come from the vicinity of the large lake that extends to the west of Stockholm, Sweden. Since the coming to Sweden of Catholicism that Lake has been renamed, “Mäleren Lake.” Before that time it was known throughout Northern Europe as, “Lake LAW.”

Juteland, the original home of the Jutes = Goths who conquered the European Roman Empire including Roman Britain, is the land to the south of Lake LAW and of the other large lakes to its west, which divide Sweden between Swealand to their north and Juteland to their south. That part of Swealand which is immediately north of Lake LAW has always been known as “Uppland,” which means “Up-land” in English.

When it was alluded to that across the trade routes of Juteland one finds so many of the large shopping towns there named “(something-) köping,” mention was made of the fact that there are two trading centers just across Lake LAW from Juteland, on the north shore of Lake LAW, in Uppland, that also have this designation. One of these, on the central north shore, is Enköping. At the west end of Lake LAW there is a port city with just the name, “Köping.” Between these two and about halfway inland into Uppland is the city of “Sala.” Here, in these two cities of ancient Uppland, we have the cities of “Buying” and “Selling.”

Moreover, all there know that they got all of their Customs from the nearby Ancient Capital City of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe, Sweden’s Ancient and Medieval Capital, and still the “intellectual capital” of Sweden, that is located in the center of Uppland — the city of Uppsala, which in English is “Upper Sala.”

Uppsala or Upsala is the site of the large Temple of the pre-Roman-Catholic “LAW Religion” of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe. It is the “big room,” “Hall,” “sal,” “Saal,” “Zaal,” “sali” or “salle” where they get their idea of “the Sale.”

“What is it that was ‘on Sale’ at that Temple at Upper Sale?” Everything! Everything in existence was on Sale at the Temple at Upper Sale. However, everything in existence was considered to be a part of “the Sale” that is on Sale at Sale.

In modern German the way that one pronounces the word for what is on Sale at Sale sounds something like, “Say-leh.” In German that is written: “die Seele.” In German those two words are pronounced, “dee Zay-leh.” “Die Seele” in German means, “the Soul.” In the Germanic language of English one might say, “The Soul is Sold here.”

If asked, “Which Soul?” the answer in German would sound in English something like: “The Selly-est Soul.” In written German that is: “die seligste Seele.” “Selig” in German means, “heavenly blissful or happy.”

The Swedish word for “sell” is “sälja” (pronounced “sell-ya”). The Swedish word for “soul” is “själ” (pronounced “shell”). The Swedish word for “heavenly blissful” is “säll” (pronounced “sell”). Its word for “blessed” or “saved” is “sälig.” The Swedish word and the word used throughout Scandinavia for that “blissful,” “lucky,” “happy” part of mankind that has been fortunate enough to be initiated into our ancient Customs is “Sällskap” = “Sell-ship” or “Sell-hood.” “Sällskap” is the universal Scandinavian word for “Society” or “Association.”

It is well known around the world that in the Great World Language of German the abbreviation that is used by large corporations in Germany, corresponding to the abbreviation “Inc.,” that is used in the USA, is “A.G.” In German that is the abbreviation for “Aktiengesellschaft” — “Stock Company.” The German word for all “Society” or any society, association or company is “Ge-sell-schaft,” which is the same word for the same meaning as the Scandinavian word, “sällskap.” In German, “to join” anything is “gesellen.” The word “gesellig” means “sociable” or “convivial.” The expression “Gesellen-” means “Journeymans-” (a journeyman is one who has followed the Ancient Customs of the Germanic Peoples to join one of their Craft Guilds — “Associations”).

Now, since “all of the Customs of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe” originated from “the concept of the Sale” or the act of “sell-ing,” it probably shouldn’t come as too great of a surprise to discover that when the Mediterranean Foes of those Customs of that Race took over control of the mental environment of Northern Europe they would try to expunge the Germanic word “sell.” That is what they did in Germany. There Roman Catholicism forced Germany’s people to change and use an expression that means “to for-buy,” “verkaufen,” to, thereafter, express what had been the essence of Germany: the word “sell.”

So, the German word for “heavenly blissful” is “selig” = “sell-y.” The Swedish word is both “sälig” and just plain “säll.” “Whose ‘Sale’ (Soul) is it that is the ‘selly-est’ (the most “heavenly blissful”) ‘Sale’ that is for ‘Sale’ at the Temple, the Hall, the “big room” or “salle” in Uppland, north of Lake LAW in Upper Sale, that is, in Uppsala?” The answer is given to us in the Story that begins that greatest of insights into the History of the Crusades, “the Sagas of the Kings of Norway” or “the Heimskringla.”

The First Saga, wherein this Story is told, begins with a geography of Europe. Its author, writing shortly after the time of the Magna Carta, tells his readers that the Mediterranean Sea goes from the Strait of Gibraltar “all the way to Jerusalem-land.” His Old Norse or Icelandic expression is: “all the way to JorSALA-land.” To the Vikings Jerusalem is Jorsala. To the Vikings all Crusaders were called, “Jerusalem-farers” — “Jorsalfar-s.” There is one Saga, around which Edvard Grieg composed a Symphony, that is called, “The Saga of King Sigurd Jorsalfar” — King Sigurd the Crusader or the “Jerusalem-farer.”

To the Vikings, their Great King, who brought LAW to the White Christian Race of Northern Europe and who had the large Temple built at Upper Salem — Uppsala, came from the area at the east end of the Mediterranean Sea, the area of Lower Salem — Jorsala, Jerusalem.


Salem

The City of Jerusalem originated as the ancient City of Salem, where the Patriarch Abraham paid his tithing. As one becomes familiar with the Sagas one sees how the Vikings, who saw Uppsala originating as a copy of Jorsala, see their concept of “the Sale” as the “Sale” part of the ancient name “Sale-m.”

In order for us to understand, “Who is Germany’s ‘die seligste Seele,’ ‘the selly-est Sale,’ ‘the most heavenly blissful Soul,’ whom is ‘sold’ at Upper Sale?” we must investigate the origin of Upper Sale’s origin, the original City of “Sale.”

The Patriarch Noah was Abraham’s eighth great grandfather. By the Chronology given by Moses, in the Book of Genesis, Chapters 5 and 11, etc., Noah was still alive for many years after Abraham was born. By those Chronologies Abraham was 58 years old when Noah died, the Antediluvian Noah living to the great age of the Antediluvians. In Genesis 9:28-29 one reads that the lifetime of the Patriarch Noah extended for 950 years. He lived for 350 after the Flood (which extends his lifetime 58 years into that of his 8th great grandson, Abraham.)

Both Noah and Abraham held the Holy Melchizedek Priesthood of the Son of God.

Noah’s birthright son and immediate heir to the Patriarchate of the Human Race, Shem, was also an Antediluvian. He also lived to the great age of the Antediluvians; however, most of his lifetime followed the Flood. The Book of Genesis says that he lived for 502 years after the Flood. That is, the Patriarch Shem, who also held the holy Melchizedek Priesthood of the Son of God, outlived his seventh great grandson and heir in the line of the Birthright, or of the Patriarchate of the Human Race, Abraham.

“Which of the Patriarchs was the ancient Patriarch Melchizedek, who founded the City of Salem?” The Apostle Paul, speaking from his background of Hebrew Scholarship, in the Epistle to the Hebrews, 7:1-3, says of Melchizedek:

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Shem outlived Abraham and all of Abraham’s Patriarchal Forefathers back to Shem with the exception of Heber: the Forefather of the Hebrews. Heber was Shem’s great grandson and Abraham’s fourth great grandfather. During the 152 years that Shem outlived Noah, Shem was “without father.” At the end of Abraham’s lifetime he was also “without descent” in those eight intervening generations between him and Abraham, except for the Patriarch Heber and Heber’s father, the Patriarch Salah (who outlived Abraham by three years). That is, throughout most of Abraham’s lifetime and for 35 years after Abraham’s death, Shem was the Reigning Patriarch of the Human Race, in primogeniture etc. descent from Adam. Shem certainly seems to be of the dignities which Paul referred to that pertained to the Patriarch Melchizedek.

If Shem is Melchizedek then how interesting is the ancient Hebrew wisdom supplied to us by the Prophet Alma the Younger in the Book of Mormon where Alma tells us these things about Melchizedek in Alma 13:14-18.

14. Yea, humble yourselves even as the people in the days of Melchizedek, who was also a high priest after this same order which I have spoken, who also took upon him the high priesthood forever.
15. And it was this same Melchizedek to whom Abraham paid tithes; yea even our father Abraham paid tithes of one-tenth of all he possessed.
16. Now these ordinances were given after this manner, that thereby the people might look forward on the Son of God, it being a type of his order, or it being his order, and this that they might look forward to him for a remission of their sins, that they might enter into the rest of the Lord.
17. Now this Melchizedek was a king over the land of Salem; and his people had waxed strong in iniquity and abomination; yea they had all gone astray; they were full of all manner of wickedness;
18. But Melchizedek having exercised mighty faith, and received the office of the high priesthood according to the holy order of God, did preach repentance unto his people. And behold, they did repent; and Melchizedek did establish peace in the land in his days; therefore he was called the prince of peace, for he was the king of Salem; and he did reign under his father.

[It may be that a main thought that brings this information up, for LDS, is from the expressions that are found in D&C 107:2. “Why this is called the Melchizedek Priesthood is because Melchizedek was such a great high priest,” and in D&C 138:41. “Noah, who gave warning of the flood; Shem, the great high priest; Abraham, the father of the faithful; Isaac, Jacob, and Moses, the great law-giver of Israel; “]

During the lifetime of Heber’s son Peleg, Shem’s second great grandson, the Babel = Babylon Rebellion of “Politics Against the Patriarchal Order of the Human Race” began. The Rebellion apparently also became a Racial War, as well as Linguistic Confusion; and the Human Race was forced to scatter from our Home Valley of the Mesopotamia (where we had “begun,” for a second time, after the Flood) to all parts of the Earth. Noah survived his third great grandson Peleg by twelve years. Apparently Noah and the Holy Priesthood of the Patriarchate needed to flee from the vicious children of their posterity, of, by then, remote generations, in the scattering from Babel in the days of Peleg.

The site of Jerusalem/Salem is, so to speak, located upon a remote mountainous crag on the periphery of the Mesopotamian Valley. The enormous defensive value of the site lies in the fact that the Crag has a Spring. When one builds a Fortress upon that long, narrow, protruding tongue of land, a steep-walled “mesa,” about 500 feet wide and protruding out from the rest of the mesa from which it originates for less than half a mile, “Mount Zion” or “the mountain of the Lord’s House,” the Spring, at the tip of that tongue of land, gives its controllers a source of pure drinking water no matter how long an invading army, of the size that the Fortress can resist, decides to linger around the base of the mountain or foot of the Fortress’s walls waiting for victims to come out.

Noah, Shem, probably Heber and others of the Patriarchs such as Heber’ father, Salah, fleeing from the Rebellion of Politics against the True Order of the Human Family, may have needed to find such a Site and build such a Fortress to defend themselves against their own frenzied remote descendants. That is, these true Leaders of God’s Church on the Earth, preserved by miracles to their great age to provide a link between the Human Family and Heaven, this most precious link, and Noah, the very father of everybody, would have been murdered in a heartbeat by the clowns who had gotten sizable followings for their mal-conceived schemes because these true Leaders are evidence of the mal-conception of those schemes! “Sound familiar?” “Would the leaders of today’s mal-conceived social schemes nuclear bomb Mount Zion today if they knew the true identity of its Founders and realized that there might be some hidden cache of information there demonstrating for the Human Family the falsity of Politics?” Almost certainly.

Noah and Shem were the true Patriarchal Leaders of the Human Family and of God’s True Church on Earth during their lifetimes. Abraham accorded to Melchizedek the obedience due to such a Leader. If Shem is Melchizedek, the King and military commander of that Fortress of ancient Salem, then he saw to the performance of these mundane duties “under” the surveillance communicated to him from the True Leader of Melchizedek’s people, the Second Father of Mankind, Shem’s father Noah.

In that instance, then, Noah is the Founder of Salem.

The last of Noah’s Patriarchal Forefathers died just before or at the time of the Flood. Therefore, from the time of the Flood and throughout the rest of his lifetime Noah was, as everyone acknowledges, the Patriarch of the Human Family. As well, he was the True Leader of the Melchizedek Priesthood during the remainder of his lifetime. If Noah was the Founder of Salem then, in view of these other things, the intended flight to that location by Abraham’s Patriarchal father, Terah, could be explained as a flight by Terah and his family to live in the righteousness of that vicinity among the people that respected that Office, of which he was in the line of its heirs, and away from the amoral chaos that had become the Culture of the Chaldeans.

However, as Moses’ Bible narrative tells us, by the time that Abraham and a small part of his family finally did leave Haran, in the Mesopotamia, and come into the vicinity of Salem to live, Abraham was 75 years old. By that time Noah had been dead for 17 years. When Abraham came to the region of Salem to live, for the remaining 100 years of Abraham’s lifetime, and for 35 years after Abraham’s death, Shem was the Reigning Patriarch of Mankind.

Among the many things that Noah had been, one of his duties might be referred to as that of “the Presiding High Priest of ‘the Religion of the Offering of Sacrifices’ of Adam.”

Genesis 8:15 And God spake unto Noah, saying,
16 Go forth from the Ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons’ wives with thee.
20 And Noah builded an altar unto the Lord; and took of every clean beast, and of every clean fowl, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

In the First Saga, the Ynglinga Saga, its author says that “Asia City,” where the King ruled who brought its Law from Asia Land to Uppland, “was a great place for sacrifices.”

“Who was the Sale (German “Seele,” English “Soul”) for whom Salem was founded by the Ancient Patriarchs of Mankind to be the place for the sacrificial offering of that Soul?”

Isaiah 53:10 ... when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed ...
12 ... he hath poured out his soul unto death ...

As people become familiar with purposes performed in the world today by the Book of Mormon, it seems that many may feel inclined to think that, “the God of Israel helps people to understand things like the words of Isaiah through explanations given in the Book of Mormon by persons such as the Prophet Abinadi”:

Mosiah 14:5. ... the chastisement of our peace was upon him ...
10. ... when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin he shall see his seed ...
12. ... he hath poured out his soul unto death ...
15:10. ... Behold, I say unto you, that when his soul has been made an offering for sin he shall see his seed. And now what say ye? And who shall be his seed?
11. Behold I say unto you, that whosoever has heard the words of the prophets, yea, all the holy prophets that have prophesied concerning the coming of the Lord — I say unto you, that all those who have hearkened unto their words, and believed that the Lord would redeem his people, and have looked forward to that day for a remission of their sins, I say unto you, that these are his seed, or they are the heirs of the kingdom of God.
12. For these are they whose sins he has borne; these are they for whom he has died, to redeem them from their transgressions. And now, are they not his seed?


The Sale

That which is named, “die Seele,” in German, that was “poured out ... unto death” at the site of ancient Salem, founded by Melchizedek and his father, included the Intelligence (the “Will”), the Spirit (“Ghost” in Germanic languages) and the Body of its Offerer.
When His “Seele” was made an offering for sin, when He had poured out His Soul unto death, He saw His seed. “Who are His seed?” Those who look to Him. Before His coming it was those who “looked forward” on “the Son of God.” After the Last Supper it is those who “always remember him.”

The “Sale” that was poured out unto death at Ancient Salem, Jerusalem or Jorsala, is the Soul that was Sold at the Temple of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe at Upper Sala. “How did the People of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe BUY, in all of their ‘By’s’ (the “Communes” into which He divided all of Northern Europe), that Soul that is Sold in the ‘Communion’ that thereafter was held every Sunday in the Meetinghouses of every one of those Communes?”

There is this modern “Tragedy,” in relation to this thought, in the sad situation about which we have spoken at the length that we have. That is the Tragedy that so many people feel that has hurt Mankind so much. It seems that many express that hurt saying things such as: “The heads of the entire Human Race have been incessantly clubbed by the baseball bat of Communism throughout virtually all of the Twentieth Century with the fact that no one has the slightest clue about the ‘-ISM,’ the true belief, that is behind the Communion that was always the central fact of life in all of the Communes into which the homeland of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe has been divided, since the beginnings of memory about them, from the Customs of which Communes, on how to behave with other people, have come the procedures for functioning of all Human Society in the Twentieth Century.”

It can be thought that: “Human beings really only have one thing that is truly ours to give, that has always been ours forever. We have only had our Bodies for a short while. They were given to us by our earthly parents at birth. Germanic languages call the ‘inner man’ within all humans (the ‘eye’ of which, the ‘mind’s eye,’ is that with which we see our dreams) the ‘ghost’ of a human being. These ‘ghosts’ were given to us by our Heavenly Parents in the life before this one on this Earth. However, our Intelligence, our Mind (our “Will,” in Germanic languages) is the essence of what we are and always have been, ‘from everlasting.’ It is THE ONLY THING that is truly yours and mine TO GIVE.” The Son of God tells all men that they may give Him that sole treasure that is theirs to give, if their Intelligence, their Mind, their Everlasting Will, will tell their Mind’s “Eye” to LOOK TO HIM. If they will do that then He is theirs, and He is everything — He owns all things — and they are His.

That was referred to in the Bible. The Lord said that: “On” the “commandments” that include, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God” “with all thy mind” “hang ALL THE LAW and the prophets.” As has been referred to, the True Administration of the Sacrament, that has been restored, tells that as we “always remember him” we are qualifying to “always have his Spirit to be with” us. As we keep these Covenants to “always remember” we are progressing, in The True Law that is restored to Latter-day Saints, to “love the Lord thy God” with “all thy mind.”

[People know that President David O. McKay was a very determined opponent of Communism. The people who produced the Technology Advancements that did away with Communism know that that Production was done in the environment that was initiated by President McKay. In relation to this we know that W. Cleon Skousen told how President McKay “prophesied” to him that “The Way will open up” for “our People” to learn, again, how to “Work Together By The Law.” The World names what LDS refer to as, “the Law,” with the technical name, “The Common Law of England.” And, that name refers to the “Law” of the Forefathers of Joseph Smith and of the other early Latter-day Saints, that was involved in the “Communion of the Lord’s Supper,” which they partook of in the “Communes” of their Forefathers. The sacred information concerning the administration of the Sacrament in the Restored Church has already been referred to, which explains how the essence of the True Law, in relation to the administration of the Sacrament, has been restored to serve all who join the True Church.]

The effective doing of this by the Forebears of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe throughout the first centuries of the Christian Era (and throughout its first millennium in Scandinavia and, somewhat, in Britain) established the Customs for human behavior that are the only fiber holding together the Fabric of all human life upon this Planet at the close of the Twentieth Century.

The Tidal Wave of Filth, of Willful Ignorance and of Evil that swept over Mankind in the Rebellion against the True Church of the Son of God, as He established it among the “multitude of nations” of the Patriarchal Race of Mankind, has begun to ebb and is now flowing back out to Sea. The Victimizers that are taking so many Victims with them back out in that Flow have no reason to rejoice. They are all going to die in the icy deep right along with all of their Victims that they take with them.

“How may you and I REMAIN, so that we don’t get carried away with the Wicked in that ebb of the Tidal Wave of Filth and Evil now flowing back out to Sea?”

In the 86th Section of the Doctrine and Covenants the Lord speaks through the Prophet Joseph Smith to His Latter-day Servants. He begins speaking of how the True Church was begun by His Apostles. Then He speaks of its fate:

Section 86:2. ... the apostles were the sowers of the seed.
3. And after they have fallen asleep the great persecutor of the church, the apostate, the whore, even Babylon, that maketh all nations to drink of her cup, in whose hearts the enemy, even Satan, sitteth to reign — behold he soweth the tares; wherefore, the tares choke the wheat and drive the church into the wilderness.
8. Therefore, thus saith the Lord unto you, with whom the priesthood hath continued through the lineage of your fathers –
9. For ye are lawful heirs, according to the flesh, and have been hid from the world with Christ in God –
10. Therefore your life and the priesthood have remained and must needs remain through you and your lineage until the restoration of all things spoken of by the mouths of all the holy prophets since the world began.
11. Therefore, blessed are ye if ye continue in my goodness, a light unto the Gentiles, and through this priesthood, a savior unto my people Israel. The Lord hath said it. Amen.

Here the Prophet Joseph Smith and his fellow Servants of the Lord are told that their Anglo-Saxon flesh is that through which they are “lawful heirs according to the flesh” of “the priesthood” of the Original Church of the Apostles, which had been driven “into the wilderness.” They are told that they are those “with whom the priesthood hath continued through the lineage of your fathers.”

They are told that their Anglo-Saxon flesh has “been hid from the world with Christ in God,” in Old England and then in New England.
They are told, “Therefore, blessed are ye if ye continue in my goodness.” The Lord’s Goodness is the heart of the Anglo-Saxon Customs clung to by those in the lineage of Joseph Smith’s and his fellow Leaders’ “fathers.”

All men are told that we will be blessed if we continue in the Lord’s Goodness as clung to through time by the ancestors of Joseph Smith and his associates. In answer to the complaint that the Persecutors of Christ’s people have sown such chaos where there used to be supposed understanding of what Christ’s Goodness is, people realize that the Lord has given His Church the Latter-day Books of Scripture which clearly show us how to continue in Christ’s Goodness.

However, knowledgeable persons may ask, “When the Enemies of White Christian Europe discovered that, because of our Invention of Guns, their massive attack with Genghis Khan’s 700,000-man Cavalry was worthless going westward, they used it, instead, to go eastward to murder 1/3 of the population of China, strip it of all of its gold and treasure and, then, through this domination of the World’s Gold Supply, attack us mentally through the Greek Orthodox Gold Coinage that we had adopted during the Crusades as the MONEY through which, thereafter, the White Christian Race would BUY and SELL in our Free Enterprise System. Our Enemies have completely taken the control of the Finances of our Free Enterprise System away from us through their absolute control of the World’s Money Supply, which control they got through their control over the World’s Gold Supply, which they got through their Murder of the Chinese. With this Control they can command a Worldwide Monetary Collapse whenever they want to, throwing virtually everybody in the world into complete confusion, disorder, chaos and destitution. From the beginning of our Church it seems that our Enemies have, through secular Governments, managed to manipulate things to thwart almost every attempt which we make to ‘continue’ in our ancestral principles of trying to ‘work together’ in Jesus’ ‘Goodness,’ in relation to the overall way that we do our work. This Enemy, through Government, seems to try to check every effort which the Church might attempt to allow us to continue functioning by our Ancestral Principles of Jesus’ Goodness in our workplaces. ‘How can we use these Principles; how can we continue clinging to them in our work, now that that Tidal Wave of Filth and evil, that brought this Enemy in over us, is now washing back out into the Icy Deep so much over which it has gained control?’”

The Financial World is controlled by the BOND Market that for centuries now has been the same thing as the ancient, independent republic of the Commonwealth of London in England. The way that that Bond Market works, in theory, is by continuing in Jesus’ Goodness as the Ancestors of Joseph Smith and his associates had so continued throughout the history of London. The workings of that Bond Market depend entirely upon a universal Custom of the Workmen of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe, which any Latter-day Saint is free to do whenever he or she wants to. If any of us choose to we need not be washed away with the Wicked in their Chaos. On the contrary, we may continue in Jesus’ Goodness maintaining and protecting us from the Chaos that is washing so much of the Evil away.

Anyone who goes through the Temple knows that our Father in Heaven asks us there to do certain things. The Entire Financial World, operating on the Customs of the White Christian Race of Northern Europe, is dependent upon ONE SINGLE CUSTOM OF THE WORKMEN OF THOSE PEOPLE. Trying to continue in the Goodness of their Forefathers’ Christian Customs, ALL OF THESE WORKMEN HAD THE CUSTOM of asking the Lord what it is, specifically, that the Lord wanted each of them to do. That is, an individual Craftsman asks the Lord (in the most sacred place available to him) specifically what it is that his Conscience is prompting him that the Lord wants him to do. Then, when he knows specifically what it is that his Conscience is telling him that the Lord wants him to do, he returns to that sacred place and promises the Lord that he will do it.

If an individual Latter-day Saint will do this, then, to the extent that it really is the Lord telling him to do that, to the extent that he does what the Lord told him to do, the Lord is “BOUND,” Doctrine and Covenants 82:10.

The London “BOND” Market is based 100% upon this One surviving Ancestral Custom of the Christian Anglo-Saxon People (which in earlier times had a much more general observance throughout Northwestern Europe).

There can be no “Law” prohibiting the LDS People from going into a business that operates in the same way as that quintessence of Anglo-Saxon Law — the London Bond Market — has always operated. Should any of them want to continue in this Ancestral Custom of the Anglo-Saxons, that is the operating basis of this Bond Market which today controls the Financial World, the unique force therein that creates all of the Value that there is in this Bond Market is the Ancestral Custom of these Craftsmen that they “confide” in one another what each promised the Lord that he would do.
"By their works ye shall know them."

God Bless,
Darren

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Re: What are the "the Scriptures of the Lost Tribes of Israe

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It seems to me that this prophecy is in the process of being fulfilled with the advent of the Internet.
I have to pick this one thing out and support it. If we look at the life of Christ and the way his life fulfilled prophecy, we see that those who were the most learned, failed to see what was going on. If God operates the same in all ages, it will be the same in our day. The people who read the scriptures without the spirit will not see the prophecies being fulfilled allowing Christ of come as a thief in the night. The majority of the events leading up to the Second Coming will be gradual and seem less drastic than they may seem to be portrayed in the scriptures.

The fact that the lost ten tribes are on earth has been made clear, so first we must get rid of thoughts about space ships and such. We also know that the apostasy before the Dispensation of the Fullness of times was the Great Apostasy and that means the gospel was no where to be found on earth in 1820. So we have to debunk the myth that somewhere the 10 tribes were living together with the gospel intact.

Now we have to do some geography and see where Israel exists on the map. Now if you go 1 inch north of there and draw a line around the globe you have the location of the northern countries. The places where they may have ended up is quite an expanse. There has been plenty of research both in and out of the church on this. There have been pockets of people found all over these northern countries where people with Hebrew customs have been found. It is far more practical for the Lord to do something as simple as scatter them all over the countries north of Israel than make some super secret spot where they are hiding.

That said, we have missionaries is most of these northern countries, and therefore the gospel is more than likely being preached to them, which equates to the gathering of Israel. The prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak.

Now getting back to the quoted item, the internet is an excellent tool revealed to us from the Lord that helps with missionary and temple work. I love to see how the Lord revealed the internet line upon line, precept upon precept. The first transistors existed in 1948. before 1948, the Lord knew we need transistors to build computers and networks. We did not have the transistor go microscopic and turn into a microchip for a great long while, and personal computers came a good long time after that. Then we waited a decade or so for the internet, then another decade for high speed internet. It is like the frog in the water. You don't notice it unless you are spiritually aware.

I am just saying don't hold your breath for something that will make headlines all across the country in fulfillment of scripture. The only thing we know will be that way will be the ultimate coming of the Lord in Glory to the whole earth. That is specifically mandated that all people in the whole earth will be aware of his coming. This will not be without fanfare, it will not be sudden to those who do not see the signs. It is the Great and Dreadful day of the Lord.

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Re: What are the "the Scriptures of the Lost Tribes of Israe

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The Lost Tribes haven't come yet, nor their scriptures.

What is now going on has nothing to do with that; it is the gathering of the remnants, not the return of the Lost Tribes.

P.S. Does anyone believe in the JS's explanation that the Lost Tribes are on another "planet" that broke off from this earth?

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JohnnyL wrote:The Lost Tribes haven't come yet, nor their scriptures.

What is now going on has nothing to do with that; it is the gathering of the remnants, not the return of the Lost Tribes.

P.S. Does anyone believe in the JS's explanation that the Lost Tribes are on another "planet" that broke off from this earth?
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JohnnyL wrote: P.S. Does anyone believe in the JS's explanation that the Lost Tribes are on another "planet" that broke off from this earth?
Do you have a reference for this?

How does this fit with the land of the north and ice flowing down at their presence?

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There are a variety of quotes out there, some directly from Joseph Smith, others from those who say they heard him talk about the lost tribes. You can probably find a great deal on this site, using the search function. You have, for instance, the hollow earth theory, or the divided earth theory, etc.

The one thing we can be sure of, they will be led back as a body or group of people. The lost tribes are not "among us," waiting to be gathered out; they are somewhere else, as a group, and John the Revelator is among them.

Article of Faith 10
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
D&C 110:11
11 After this vision closed, the heavens were again opened unto us; and Moses appeared before us, and committed unto us the keys of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north.

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TheProfessor wrote:There are a variety of quotes out there, some directly from Joseph Smith, others from those who say they heard him talk about the lost tribes. You can probably find a great deal on this site, using the search function. You have, for instance, the hollow earth theory, or the divided earth theory, etc.

The one thing we can be sure of, they will be led back as a body or group of people. The lost tribes are not "among us," waiting to be gathered out; they are somewhere else, as a group, and John the Revelator is among them.

Article of Faith 10
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
D&C 110:11
11 After this vision closed, the heavens were again opened unto us; and Moses appeared before us, and committed unto us the keys of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north.
You gotta give me more than that. I have been over this at length with my Father-in-law. He is an ex mission president and Patriarch. Every time I bring this up with different theories, he quietly points me back to the discovories of groups of people with hebrew traditions found northward of Israel.

The three nephites and John the revelator are translated beings. Do they fall under the authority of our current church president? After the great apostacy, was it John the revelator that brought them the gospel? They would need some reason to be gathered and brought back.

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Umm... I'm no expert in this area, and will readily admit that there is a great deal of conflicting information. I don't personally have a favorite theory.

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After Zion is built in Jackson County, and after the Temple is built upon that spot of ground where the corner stone was laid in 1831; after the glory of God in the form of a cloud by day shall rest upon that Temple, and by night the shining of a flaming fire that will fill the whole heavens round about; after every, dwelling place upon Mount Zion shall be clothed upon as with a pillar of fire by night, and a cloud by day, about that period of time, the ten tribes will be heard of, away in the north, a great company, as Jeremiah says, coming down from the northern regions, coming to sing in the height of the latter-day Zion.

Their souls will be as a watered garden, and they will not sorrow any more at all, as they have been doing during the twenty-five hundred long years they have dwelt in the Arctic regions. They will come, and the Lord will be before their camp, he will utter his voice before that great army, and he will lead them forth as he led Israel in ancient days. This long chain of Rocky Mountains, that extends from the cold regions of the north away into South America, will feel the power of God, and will tremble before the hosts of Israel as they come to sing on the heights of Zion.

In that day the trees of the field will clap like hands, says the Prophet, and in that day the Lord will open waters in the wilderness, and streams in the desert, to give drink to his chosen, his people Israel. And when they come to the height of Zion they shall be crowned with glory under the hands of the servants of God living in those days, the children of Ephraim, crowned with certain blessings that pertain to the Priesthood, that they could not receive in their own lands.
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But as a still further testimony of the power that will be made manifest in the restitution of Israel, let me refer you to another passage, which is contained in the 11th chapter of Isaiah, "He shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth." Here is a declaration that the two great kingdoms of Israel--its "outcasts," the ten tribes, scattered seven hundred and twenty years before Christ, and the "dispersed of Judah," dispersed among all nations, shall be gathered.

But before he gathers them he will set up an ensign--an ensign is to be raised in the latter-days especially for the gathering of Israel. Again, says the Prophet, "And the Lord shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea." How? "With his mighty power shall he shake his hand over the river and shall smite it in the seven streams and make men go over dryshod. And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people which shall be left from Assyria like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt." The same thing, not a spiritual, but a literal transaction, as the Lord smote the tongue of the Egyptian sea in ancient days, and caused his people to go through on a highway in the midst of those mighty waters which stood like walls on each side of the assembly of Israel.

So in the latter days he will not only cut off the tongue of the Egyptian sea, but the river in its seven streams will also be divided and men will go through dryshod. This is the testimony of the prophets concerning the events that are to take place when the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
Proclamation of the Twelve Apostles, April 1845
We would now make a solemn appeal to our rulers, and other fellow citizens, whether it is treason to know, or even to publish what we know? If it is, then strike the murderous blow, but listen to what we say. We say, then, in life or in death, in bonds or free, that the great God has spoken in this age.--And we know it.

He has given us the Holy Priesthood and apostleship, and the keys of the kingdom of God, to bring about the restoration of all things as promised by the holy prophets of old.--And we know it.

He has revealed the origin and the records of the aboriginal tribes of America, and their future destiny.--And we know it.

He has revealed the fulness of the gospel with its gifts, blessings, and ordinances.--And we know it.

He has commanded us to bear witness of it, first to the Gentiles, and then to the remnant of Israel, and the Jews.--And we know it.

He has commanded us to gather together his Saints, on this continent, and build up holy cities and sanctuaries.--And we know it.

He has said, that the Gentiles should come into the same gospel and covenant, and be numbered with the House of Israel, and be a blessed people upon this good land forever, if they would repent and embrace it.--And we know it.

He has also said, that if they do not repent, and come to the knowledge of the truth, and cease to fight against Zion, and also put away all murder, lying, pride, priestcraft, whoredom, and secret abomination, they shall soon perish from the earth, and be cast down to hell.--And we know it.

He has said, that the time is at hand for the Jews to be gathered to Jerusalem.--And we know it.

He has said that the ten tribes of Israel should also be revealed in the North Country, together with their oracles and records, preparatory to their return, and to their union with Judah, no more to be separated.--And we know it.

He has said, that when these preparations were made, both in this country and in Jerusalem, and the gospel in all its fullness preached to all nations for a witness and testimony, he will come, and all the Saints with him, to reign on the earth one thousand years.--And we know it.

He has said, that He will not come in His glory and destroy the wicked, till these warnings were given, and these preparations were made for His reception.--And we know it.

Now, fellow-citizens, if this knowledge, or the publishing of it, is treason or crime, we refuse not to die. But be ye sure of this, that whether we live or die, the words of the testimony of this proclamation which we now send unto you, shall all be fulfilled.
And, since I'm the most fair and balanced individual that I know, here is another perspective:

Elder McConkie (The Millennial Messiah, pp. 319-326):
"We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes." (A of F 10.) This inspired language leaves the clear impression that the gathering of Israel is one thing and the restoration of the Ten Tribes is another. Why this distinction? Are not the Ten Tribes a part of Israel? And if Israel is to be gathered, surely in the very nature of things this would include the gathering of the major portion of that ancient and favored people.

An immortal Moses, appearing in resurrected glory on the 3rd day of April, 1830, in the Kirtland Temple, committed unto his mortal fellow servants, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery. "the keys of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north." (D&C 110:11.) Again there is a distinction between Israel as a whole and the Ten Tribes who are the dominant portion of Jacob's seed. All scripture comes by the power of the Holy Ghost and is verily true. When special and unusual language is used, there is a reason. Holy writ is not idle chatter; it is the mind and will of the Lord; it says what he wants said. And so it now behooves us to learn why it is one thing to gather Israel from the four parts of the earth and yet another to lead the Ten Tribes from the land of the north.

We have already seen that all Israel, including specifically and pointedly the Ten Tribes, is scattered in all the nations of the earth, upon all the islands of the sea, and among every people who dwell on this planet. It is absolutely basic and fundamental to know this. We cannot understand the gathering of Israel, we cannot envision what is meant by the restoration of the Ten Tribes, and we cannot properly relate these two things to the Second Coming of our Lord unless we know where Israel and the Ten Tribes now are.

We are also aware that the Ten Tribes were first taken as a body into Assyria; that they went out from Assyria, northward, in a body, under prophetic guidance; and that they were then splintered and driven and scattered into all places and among all peoples. These Ten Tribes, no matter where they are located, are in nations and places known in the days of Isaiah and Jeremiah and the ancient prophets as the north countries. Hence, their return to Palestine at least will be from the land of the north.

The tribe of Ephraim is one of the Ten Tribes; and her people became wanderers in the nations, where they now reside and where they are now being found and gathered, one of a city and two of a family, into the stakes of Zion in those nations. This gathering of Israel is not to an American Zion; it is not to Palestine and the ancient holy land; it is not to any central place or location. Rather, it is to the holy places of safety that are now being set up in all nations as rapidly as our strength and means permit. As we have seen, this gathering of Ephraim falls in the category of the gathering of Israel and not of the leading of the Ten Tribes from the land of the north. This gathering of Ephraim is into the stakes of Zion in all the nations of the earth. There are, of course, isolated and unusual instances of people from the other lost tribes gathering with Ephraim, but these are few and far between. The gathering of these other tribes is not yet, but by and by.

What, then, is meant by the leading of the Ten Tribes from the land of the north? Our answer is: Just what the words say. We are gathering Israel now in all nations and counseling them to stay where they are, there to enlarge the borders of Zion, there to build up stakes of Zion in their own lands and among their own people. But with the Ten Tribes, in part at least, it will be another thing. They are destined to return (at least in large and representative numbers) to the same soil where the feet of their forebears walked during the days of their mortal pilgrimage. They are to return to Palestine. At least a constituent assembly will congregate there in the very land given of God to Abraham their father. Others will, of course, be in America and in all lands, but the formal return, the return from the north countries, will be to the land of their ancient inheritance. . . .

It is clear; it is plain; it is certain: God gave ancient Canaan to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the twelve tribes of Israel, of whom the Ten Tribes are the dominant part. It is their land, in time and in eternity. It is their land now whenever they are worthy to tread its blessed surface. And it shall be theirs again in that everlasting eternity that lies ahead. "It is decreed that the poor and the meek of the earth shall inherit it," in that celestial day when it shall be crowned with the presence of God, even the Father. (D&C 88:17-19.) Where else, then, would we expect to see the Ten Tribes return? Where else would we expect them to assemble to worship the God of their fathers and to be inheritors of the promises made to the ancient ones whose seed they are?

Thus it is that we see why the revelations speak of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth into the Church and kingdom of God on earth, and also of the leading of the Ten Tribes from the land of the north back again to their promised Canaan. The gathering of Israel is one thing, the return of the Ten Tribes to a specified place is another; and Moses gave to men in our day the keys and power to perform both labors. This means that Israel is gathered at the direction and pursuant to the power and authority vested in the legal administrators who preside over The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And it also means that the Ten Tribes -- scattered, lost, unknown, and now in all the nations of the earth -- these Ten Tribes, with their prophets, with their scriptures, in faith and desiring righteousness, shall return to blessed Canaan at the direction of these same legal administrators. The President of the Church is the only person on earth at any given time who does or can exercise these or any other priesthood keys in their eternal fulness. He will direct the return of the Ten Tribes. It will not come to pass in any other way. . . .

We do not say that occasional blood descendants of Reuben or Naphtali or others of the other tribal heads shall not return to their Palestinian Zion, or assemble in an American Zion, or find their way into the stakes of Zion in all nations, all before the Second Coming of Christ. Some shall no doubt return to Canaan as true believers and members of the true Church, with the intent and purpose of fulfilling the scriptures and building up the ancient cities of Israel. This may well happen in some small measure, and to it there can be no objection. Great movements have small beginnings, and floods that sweep forth from bursting dams are first forecast when small rivulets trickle from the pent-up reservoirs. But we do say that the great day of the return of the Ten Tribes, the day when the assembling hosts shall fulfill the prophetic promises, shall come after our Lord's return. . . .

In that day, "They who are in the north countries shall come in remembrance before the Lord." The lost tribes of Israel, the Ten Tribes whose members are scattered among the northern nations, shall be remembered. The set time to favor them will have dawned. The work of the Father will then commence among them; converts will be made; they will believe the everlasting gospel taught to them by the elders of Ephraim; and they will be baptized and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. They will become again the Lord's people. "And their prophets shall hear his voice, and shall no longer stay themselves."

Their prophets! Who are they? Are they to be holy men called from some unknown place and people? Are they prophets unbeknown to the presiding officers of "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth"? (D&C 1:30.) Perish the thought! The President of the Church, who holds the keys to lead the Ten Tribes from the nations of the north wherein they now reside, holds also the keys of salvation for all men. There are not two true churches on earth, only one; there are not two gospels or two be plans of salvation, only one; there are not two competing organizations, both having divine approval, only one. "Is Christ divided?" (1 Cor. 1:13.) God forbid. Their prophets are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are stake presidents and bishops and quorum presidents who are appointed to guide and direct the destinies of their stakes and wards and quorums.
Lots of interesting stuff to consider :D

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Here's a link to a great article by Joseph Fielding McConkie:

http://emp.byui.edu/huffr/A%20Scriptura ... 20Lost.htm

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Thanks for all that TheProfessor.

I have some thoughts on this based on my family history lineage from both my mother (Swedish) and my father (Dutch).

hmmm....

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TheProfessor wrote:There are a variety of quotes out there, some directly from Joseph Smith, others from those who say they heard him talk about the lost tribes. You can probably find a great deal on this site, using the search function. You have, for instance, the hollow earth theory, or the divided earth theory, etc.

The one thing we can be sure of, they will be led back as a body or group of people. The lost tribes are not "among us," waiting to be gathered out; they are somewhere else, as a group, and John the Revelator is among them.

Article of Faith 10
We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
D&C 110:11
11 After this vision closed, the heavens were again opened unto us; and Moses appeared before us, and committed unto us the keys of the gathering of Israel from the four parts of the earth, and the leading of the ten tribes from the land of the north.
Agreed.
If they're on a different planet, I guess being a translated being helps. :)

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It is so much better that I know much more about the lost tribes of Israel by studying their Scriptures, available on the Internet, that contain their culture and beginnings, than all the other scholars who speculate about them to the point that they do not know them. Kind of like how the scholars who know everything about Jesus Christ and yet he says to them, I never knew you. Once you get past the doubts and speculation that the information is already out there, what to do with the Scriptures of the lost tribes of Israel is the next question.

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Bruce Wydner wrote:“The Customary LAW” of the North Europeans was that, if they went to Church every Son of God Day, and kept the Promises that they made as they participated in the Sacrament of “the Lord’s Supper,” they could be “Born Again,” as that is the Important Part of what they all called, “the Lord’s ‘Gospel.’” [Medieval Greco-Roman-Byzantine Statecraft eventually erased the North Europeans’ word for “the Story of God” = “Gospel,” all over the European Continent. However, they were not able to get their Armies etc. over to the Islands of the British Isles nor over to the Scandinavian Islands (Iceland etc.) to erase, there, that word of the North Europeans for the Godly Source of the Origin of their LAW, their Ancestral “GOSPEL”

Throughout all of Northern Europe, and throughout all Scandinavian Countries, till this time, the word for, “to be BORN AGAIN, in Christianity, has been, TO BE MADE “FREE.” A Greco-Roman “Title” for the Lord, Jesus Christ, has never been used throughout Scandinavia. There He has always been called, as He still is called, there, at this time, that He is, “the FREE-maker.”

So, the South Europeans thought that they were going to TRICK the North Europeans, with their concept that all of them sought, in all that they did, for each of them to be able to be, “Born Again,” to be made “FREE,” by telling them that the Ancient Pagan Greek Political Thinkers, who tried to and were able to ENSLAVE so many of the Populations of the Ancient Greek and, then, Roman Empires, (Historians estimate that ½ of the Population of the Ancient Roman Empire were Slaves), who THOUGHT UP the “Statecraft” by which the South Europeans’ Military Dictators ruled their Lands, ALSO deserved to be “Born Again,” into the way that the “theoretically” Christian South European Military Dictators were ruling their Countries in the Middle Ages. Those South European Military Dictators used, as their name for the way that those Beginners of that Ancient Greek Way Of Enslaving People were going to be “Born Again,” the French word for “Being Born Again,” which is, “renaissance.” Then, when the North Europeans were informed of this Trickery that it seemed that the South Europeans were trying to pull on them, they “PROTESTED” against that. And that was the beginning of those North Europeans dividing themselves off from the South Europeans, as those North Europeans, thereafter, referred to themselves as, “the Protestants,” “protesting” against those trying to play some kind of their South European Statecraft Trickery on them, which was the beginning of “the Protestant Reformation.”

“So, in that situation, what could the Spanish Dictators and their associated other South European Military Dictators do, to stop the North European Hanseatic League’s very many Harbor Townships, from their getting their idea to take their Biggest Number of Sea-going Ships in the World, and, with them, sailing over to the Americas to take away from the South Europeans their ability to keep on Looting from all of the INDIANS of the Americas so much of all of the Treasures that so many of those Tribes there had?”

Those South European Military Statecraft Powers, after putting their plans together, for quite a while, thought up their idea of their launching their THIRTY YEARS WAS, from 1618 to 1648, against all of those Harbor Townships of the Hanseatic League, with all of their Huge Number of Ocean-going Sailing Ships, all along the North Coast of Germany. It is said that that Thirty Years War did more damage to Germany than the First and Second World Wars combined.

However, a significantly Large Part of the Hanseatic League was that one of its “Four Major ‘Kontors’ (Headquarters Stations),” that was the Ancient “Commonwealth” of London, in England.

The Southern Europeans were not able to successfully attack England, although they gave that a try with their “Spanish Armada.”
By Article 13 of the Magna Carta, that Ancient Commonwealth of London, (THE ANCIENT LONDON BOND MARKET OF WHICH, THAT IS CONTROLLED BY THE 500,000 LONDON “FREE MEN,” THERE, TODAY, HAS BEEN THE FINANCIAL CAPITAL OF THE WORLD, for Centuries, now) operates by the Exact Same Free Enterprise System of the Ancient Ancestors of the English-speaking People, today, as it did when it was founded, by the Anglo-Saxon Tribe that was named, “the Jutes,” when they established London, in the year 450 AD.

Then, that which is a Brief Explanation of their way of operating, there, by their Ancestral LAW, of the Free Enterprise System:

[In the Ancient Apocrypha, in the Book of Esdras, it is spoken of how it was when the Empire of Babylon had conquered the Ancient Empire of Assyria, and told the “Ten Tribes of Ancient Israel,” that had been conquered by the Assyrians, that they were freed, to leave their Captivity in Assyria, they said, “Let us go to a Northern Land, where man has never been. There we will keep the Law that we never kept in our old Land.”

Then, shortly after that time, the Records show that “the Germanic Tribes” arrived at the Northwest of Europe, where they settled in Scandinavia etc.

All of their Historical Records show that those Ancient Germanic Tribes, as they reached and settled in Northwest Europe at about the time of 600 BC have always been organized in the way that Moses organized the Twelve Tribes of Ancient Israel, to work with their “Judges.” As Moses instructed them, the Twelve Tribes of Israel, then, appointed a Judge for every 10 Men, then for every 50 of them, then for every 100 of them, then for every 1,000 of them, that there were among all of the 600,000 Israelite Men that are “enumerated” in the Old Testament’s Book of Numbers.

When the Ancient Germanic Tribes arrived in Northwest Europe, and settled there, their Men, (heads of families), of their Different Tribes, organized themselves into: “Ten-ships,” “Fifty-ships,” “Hundred-ships,” and “Thousand-ships.” The Ancestors of the English-speaking People began calling their “Ten-ships,” “TOWNSHIPS.” In the Southeast Part of England, ten Townships, there, form what is still called, a “HUNDRED,” (which organization was named, “a County,” in the USA). Throughout Germany 10 Townships have always been called, a “HUNDRED-SHIP” (“eine Hundert-schaft”), in the German Language. And, throughout Southern Sweden the name there for the Organizations of 10 Townships has been that they are, “Hundrar.”

Then, 10 of each of those “Hundreds” was called, a “Shire,” in Britain, a “Gau,” in German-speaking Lands, a “Fylke,” in Norway, etc., which were the predecessors for calling the equivalent Organizations in North America, “Provinces,” in Canada, and the “States,” of the USA.

Then the “Land” that was occupied by each of those German-speaking Tribes, on the Continent of Europe, that was so divided, into those 1,000’s, 100’s, and 10’s, was called by the name of that Tribe, that it was the “Land” of: the Bavarians, the Swabians, the Saxons, the Austrians, the Swiss etc.]
Bruce Wydner wrote: The History of “the Jutes”

So, then, let’s talk, somewhat, about “the Overall History” of the Anglo-Saxons, such as is contained in the Icelandic Eddas, (which the Experts on all of the Genealogy Records of so many of the Countries of Europe say that those Records PROVE are TRUE), about the Origin of the Tribe that took the name of their being, “the Jutes.”

After the Resurrected Lord had instructed 10 of His 12 Apostles and all of the Members of His Church who were able to walk for a long way, in relation to this, (which did not include the very elderly and the Families with very young children - 2 of the 12 were instructed to stay there, in Judea, to be the Leaders there for them), He led those Members of His Church to walk around the west side of the Caucasus Mountains, along the East Shore of the Black Sea, and, then, across Eastern Europe to what has been the Saxony part of Germany.

There, after some of the Greatest Miracles that are told about, in the Ancient History of Germany, the Lord and His 12 Apostles (to whom He had given “the Keys” of His Kingdom), came to administer to the People of the Tribe, in Northern Germany, of the Saxons, as they established the Lord’s Church among them. The English word, “Church,” is the English version of the original German word, “Key-Reich,” meaning, “the Kingdom of the Keys.” It was understood that the People of that Tribe were Descendants of the 10 Tribes of Israel, who had migrated to “a Northern Land,” and who had been waiting for Centuries for the Messiah of the Tribes of Israel to come and to administer to them the Blessings that the Ancient Prophets of Israel had said would be given to them.

It seems that the Saxon people knew very well that they were the Descendants of those 10 Tribes of Israel, with many people, throughout History, saying that that name, “Saxon,” was an Ancient Anglo-Saxon Language way of those people naming themselves that they were, “the Sons” of “Sac,” or that they were the Descendants of the Ancient Patriarch, “Isaac,” who was the father of the Patriarch, “Jacob/Israel.”

Although the Lord and His 12 Apostles began the organizing of their Church there, in the Land of the Saxons, the Lord told them that, because of the Invasions that would be coming into that part of the European Continent, He could not establish the Headquarters of His Church there, but that He would do that on an Island that was just to the east of the Danish Peninsula, on which Peninsula the Israelite Tribe of the Angles lived. That Island, thereafter named, “The Island of Everlasting Joy,” “Fyn,” in the Ancient Danish Language, “Fun,” in English, remained that Headquarters for Centuries.

[The Records that are there show that a Main Part of the 10 Tribes of Israel first came to and settled, in that (Northern Land) that today is the Scandinavian Peninsula. However, because of the Religious Doctrine among them of, “Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,” those parts of those Tribes there quickly multiplied and filled Scandinavia, and, then, needed to begin migrating southward, where they began to fill up so much of the part of Europe that was to become Germany, and the Lands around it. And, then, when they did that, the Romans, who were on their way to making Slaves out of about ½ of the Populations that would be in their “Empire,” began the Military Part of their Empire, to stop the populating toward the Southwest of Europe by those Germanic Tribes from Scandinavia.]

Then, after the Lord established the Headquarters of the Church on the Island of Fyn, He went over to the one part of Europe that has never been conquered by an Invasion, over to the part of the Scandinavian Peninsula that today is the Country of Sweden, where He was welcomed so joyously by the Descendants of the 10 Tribes of Israel who lived there. In that joyous welcome by those Israelite People, who had waited there for so many Centuries, for the coming to them of their Messiah of Israel, the People of Southern Sweden told Him that they had a “favor” that they wished to ask of Him. They mentioned to Him how they knew that the Family through which He was born, His Mother, and her Husband, He was the one who was entitled, by birth, to the Kingship of the Tribes of Israel, through his primogeniture descend from King David, of the Tribe of Judah, who had served as the King of Israel. However, then, because He was the heir to that Kingship, as it had remained in the Ancient Hereditary Land of the Israelites, through that Main Tribe that had remained there, in their Kingdom of Judea, and, since He had achieved there, as the King of that Tribe of Judah, that had remained there, the FREEing of all of Mankind from the Death that there has been, since the time of the Garden of Eden, and the FREEing of all of Mankind that will accept and live the Truths of His Gospel, that He began the teaching of there, that will, eventually, be taught to all of Mankind, they asked Him (as that is recorded in the Icelandic Eddas) if He would permit them to use the name of His birth Tribe, (who were called, “the Judes,” by many in the World), and if they could call their Land, “the Land of the Judes.”

The Icelandic Eddas tell us how the Lord, then, gave them the permission to do what they had asked Him for. So, they named the South Half of Sweden, “Jute-land” (their way of trying to pronounce, “Jude-land”); and they took for themselves the name that they called themselves by thereafter, till this time, the Tribe of the “Jutes.”

While He was in Saxland, where He began the Organization of the Church among the Israelite Tribes of Northern Europe, He began a part of His LAW, which He continued and explained in such detail on the Shore of Lake Law, a Lake that He miraculously helped to create, that is just to the west of where Stockholm, Sweden has been located, through subsequent History.

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Re: What are the "the Scriptures of the Lost Tribes of Israe

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Bruce Wydner seems to be a compiler and clarifier of ancient histories. In this regard, he seems to be akin to the Nephite historians- who were also usually prophets. It will be interesting if there's a holy record distilled and written from those histories like the Book of Mormon was, but it's unlikely to be happening soon, IMO. And according to our Standard Works, men and women outside the Church line of authority can still act as prophets by living according to FATHER'S will and doing their appointed tasks. Besides, can anyone see the current body of the Church accepting scripture from a radical new source- even if it was presented in Conference? The next major event to watch out for is the Cleansing.

If anyone wants to find more holy writ and holy communication with GOD, right now they will have to find it for themselves by walking a holy walk with GOD.

Darren, I think the prophecies re: the lost tribes returning and ice flowing down will have a literal fulfillment as well as the symbolic one of the Internet. Is it possible that the Lost Tribes had a portion that was taken or hidden from the Earth that are yet to return to it? Joseph Smith and other eaarly Brethren thought so, and I like the scenario Skousen envisioned in "The Cleansing of America".

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