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Hi guys,
MY wife just shared with me an experience, she keeps seeing this little girl, she just stands there..... the problem from my point of view is this... it is my understanding that there are no spirits in the form of children.... they are all adults. I have also heard spirits can manifest themselves in a way we can recognize them better.... but the form of a child? anyway any feedback would be great!
Thank you!
-Erick

Zkulptor wrote:Hi guys,
MY wife just shared with me an experience, she keeps seeing this little girl, she just stands there..... the problem from my point of view is this... it is my understanding that there are no spirits in the form of children.... they are all adults. I have also heard spirits can manifest themselves in a way we can recognize them better.... but the form of a child? anyway any feedback would be great!
Thank you!
-Erick

Is your wife seeing this little spirit or dreaming about it?

Seeing children often happens when a person is supposed to have another child. I know several people who have had this experience. My aunt was one of them. The little girl kept coming to her but she refused to have another kid. Eventually the little girl went away. 20 years later my aunt's biggest regret is that she didn't have her.
The second kind of appearance of seeing a child that I know people have had, is when they have lost a child. My understanding is that they come in that form so the person will recognize them and that it will be a comfort to them.

I don't know if this will be at all helpful to your question, but it seems to me to be somewhat related. I don't see spirits. I do, however, often "sense" them, in a way that has a visible component, but not precisely. When I was in the hospital after just having given birth to my first child, a son (I very much wanted a boy!), I began "sensing" a spirit, that I think was my daughter, who was the one who was born next (about a year and half later). What I remember sensing was something that was pink, fluffy, very feminine, who was very excited...and moved very fast, like she was flying around on roller skates or something. I didn't see her, that is to say, there was no shape, really, to be able to say that it was a child. I just got the impression of pink fluffiness that was saying, over and over, "it's my turn, I'm next, I'm next, I'm next...." Perhaps it was only my imagination, but I do believe that it really was my daughter's spirit visiting me, and letting me know she was very happy and excited, joyful and jubilant even, to know she would be born into my family soon. And that is her personality. But I believe that you are right, that spirits don't look like old or young people, just the way people will look in their perfected state, as in the resurrection. But perhaps your wife's perception is of a child because that is the message she needs to receive? I really have no idea, but I do find the notion to be utterly fascinating. Perhaps prayer might lead to some light being shed on the question? Good luck!!

Nan: My wife had a similar expereince with our youngest daughter and last of six chidren. I accepted the dream, not a vsion, as from God so we ended up having the girl she saw... Rachael.

That would be a hint!!! Your wife is pregnant!!!

I think Spirits can appear in any form or dress, child or adult, according to the way we will most recognize them & their message best.

JulesGP wrote:IMaybe your wife should ask the little girl why she's there!

+1 She may be your unborn child but she may also be a child who has been left off a family group sheet, especially if your wife has been working on family history & temple work. Or someone with a message or ...? Your wife should pray about it and if the child returns talk to her. But it would be good to pray about it regardless. Also, your wife may have had feelings during the visit which would be good to consider as well.

perhaps it wasn't just a spirit...........it was a deceased child who has a spirit?

Without going into detail, I have seen a child spirit.

Samuel the Lamanite wrote:Nan: My wife had a similar expereince with our youngest daughter and last of six chidren. I accepted the dream, not a vsion, as from God so we ended up having the girl she saw... Rachael.

Hey my wife had that same experience with our final baby Rachael as well. I just knew we would find common ground eventually! )

Mark: Wonderful. I know we started off badly but IMO things have gotten much better. I hope you and others lurking would agree.

My wife and I have both had experiences, via dreams, in which we saw some of our children before they were born. In one of those experiences my wife was told specifically by the child... "don't forget about me in 2010"... That was our daughter, born December 2010. I won't get into all the details but I know there was a reason for the specificity there.

Mark wrote:

Samuel the Lamanite wrote:Nan: My wife had a similar expereince with our youngest daughter and last of six chidren. I accepted the dream, not a vsion, as from God so we ended up having the girl she saw... Rachael.

Hey my wife had that same experience with our final baby Rachael as well. I just knew we would find common ground eventually! )

Are you and Sam the same person?? You're one twisted AP! Please delete my name, address and phone number from your records [-(
The scary part is that my sis-in-law is named Rachael so you're probably my Father-in-law :ymtongue:

You can talk to her, I would suggest praying for insight and guidance. If it is not a righteous spirit, you would give power by engaging it. Just a thought.

shadow wrote:

Mark wrote:

Samuel the Lamanite wrote:Nan: My wife had a similar expereince with our youngest daughter and last of six chidren. I accepted the dream, not a vsion, as from God so we ended up having the girl she saw... Rachael.

Hey my wife had that same experience with our final baby Rachael as well. I just knew we would find common ground eventually! )

Are you and Sam the same person?? You're one twisted AP! Please delete my name, address and phone number from your records [-(
The scary part is that my sis-in-law is named Rachael so you're probably my Father-in-law :ymtongue:

Thats Captain Moroni to you chump! I own you!! :ymdevil:

Rand wrote:You can talk to her, I would suggest praying for insight and guidance. If it is not a righteous spirit, you would give power by engaging it. Just a thought.

I thought the same thing. Every post so far has been where the spirit was here for supposed good things. I would not be so quick to respond to this juvenile "spirit of light". I would know how to engage, pray about it, and if you choose to engage be prepared to cast it out. When was the last time your house was dedicated. Maybe it would be a good idea to do so and really desire of the lord what this spirit is there for. Good Luck!

To clear the air again. I don't post under any name then Samuel the Lamanite since 2008. I what I've found from studied in human behavior is that some project on to others behavior that they temselves do. Could that be happening here?

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What say ye?

Zkulptor wrote:Hi guys,
MY wife just shared with me an experience, she keeps seeing this little girl, she just stands there..... the problem from my point of view is this... it is my understanding that there are no spirits in the form of children.... they are all adults. I have also heard spirits can manifest themselves in a way we can recognize them better.... but the form of a child? anyway any feedback would be great!
Thank you!
-Erick

I recommend a book titled "Life before Life", I don't know the author. It deals with a number of people who had experiences along this line. My own family had 2 of these experiences, so I believe that they are real, and a manifestion of The Lord's love for us. And as a witness of the importance, to Him, of families.

Mr Lonely

Amore Vero wrote:I think Spirits can appear in any form or dress, child or adult, according to the way we will most recognize them & their message best.

This is true. My wife had a dream of our daughter beforehand where she was presented as a little girl. Previously I had seen a vision of her presented as a young adult. My experience is that they're presented in child form as a hint that we are to bring them into the world, especially when their time is close at hand. It's all about the most efficient way to get their message across to us.

Samuel the Lamanite wrote:To clear the air again. I don't post under any name then Samuel the Lamanite since 2008. I what I've found from studied in human behavior is that some project on to others behavior that they temselves do. Could that be happening here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What say ye?

I think Samuel may be onto something here. (sorry for the diversion Z. I couldn't resist) Shadow is a classic case of Freuds deepest darkest fear. Am I right or am I right?

According to Sigmund Freud, projection is a psychological defense mechanism whereby one "projects" one's own undesirable thoughts, motivations, desires, and feelings onto someone else. 'Emotions or excitations which the ego tries to ward off are "spit out" and then felt as being outside the ego...perceived in another person'.[4] It is a common process.[5] The related defence of 'projective identification differs from projection in that the impulse projected onto an external object does not appear as something alien and distant from the ego because the connection of the self with that projected impulse continues'.[

Get help Shadow. You are one sick puppy! @-)

PS Sam you are one in a million!

Nan wrote:Seeing children often happens when a person is supposed to have another child. I know several people who have had this experience. My aunt was one of them. The little girl kept coming to her but she refused to have another kid. Eventually the little girl went away. 20 years later my aunt's biggest regret is that she didn't have her.
The second kind of appearance of seeing a child that I know people have had, is when they have lost a child. My understanding is that they come in that form so the person will recognize them and that it will be a comfort to them.

This is such crap! There are so many things wrong with this mormon wives tail I don't know where to begin. I have a family member say the exact same thing, she was from Utah. No one outside of UTAH says this kind of crap. She has six children already and living at or near poverty levels and she says I keep feeling we are missing someone. As John Stahsels would say Give me a BREAK.

Having a child should not be based on some so called "VISION" or feeling that someone is missing.

Look if you pray about it, have the means by all means have another child but this crap of saying I keep seeing a child in vision and that means I am missing a child in my family. So I need to pump out another child is so off it like superstition.

What about all those couples who can not have children because of physical problems. What an awful experience that would be. Those would be horror visions to them.

Look the bottom line is that this is just BUNK!!!!!! Like so many other saying in the church.... remember the beyond a shadow of a doubt. Almost every testimony was I know it beyond a shadow of doubt. Yet those same people did not even pay tithing they did not have temple recommends and they knew it beyond a shadow of a doubt. It was just popular to say. So is this I feel like our family is missing someone.

It is a superstition that I would like to squash if I could. There are many more in the church but this one gets to me.

I don't know, but I'll share a story that was shared in one of our adoption classes. The wife kept hearing a baby crying to her. In her dreams, and I think she just sensed the crying all the time. They ended up finding out about a baby who was born drug addicted, deaf, with no recordable brain activity. They were asked if they'd be willing to take him home and take care of him until he died.

Part of the protocol was giving the baby some kind of drug because of being born addicted. The husband was a police officer and said it really bothered him to see the baby's eyes roll back. He couldn't stand it and decided to stop the drugs.

They had take the baby to Primary Children's where it was confirmed that there wasn't brain activity. They said they'd ring a bell above his head and no brain activity was detected. After several months when the baby hadn't died, the hospital asked them to bring him back to do some tests. Guess what? This time he did have brain activity. At the time of our classes he was a healthy teenager with partial hearing lOSS but no other problems.

I think this Mom was guided to this child for obvious reasons.

I'm not sure why your wife is seeing this little girl, but I bet she'll figure it out.

7cylon7 wrote:

Nan wrote:Seeing children often happens when a person is supposed to have another child. I know several people who have had this experience. My aunt was one of them. The little girl kept coming to her but she refused to have another kid. Eventually the little girl went away. 20 years later my aunt's biggest regret is that she didn't have her.
The second kind of appearance of seeing a child that I know people have had, is when they have lost a child. My understanding is that they come in that form so the person will recognize them and that it will be a comfort to them.

This is such crap! There are so many things wrong with this mormon wives tail I don't know where to begin. I have a family member say the exact same thing, she was from Utah. No one outside of UTAH says this kind of crap. She has six children already and living at or near poverty levels and she says I keep feeling we are missing someone. As John Stahsels would say Give me a BREAK.

Having a child should not be based on some so called "VISION" or feeling that someone is missing.

Look if you pray about it, have the means by all means have another child but this crap of saying I keep seeing a child in vision and that means I am missing a child in my family. So I need to pump out another child is so off it like superstition.

What about all those couples who can not have children because of physical problems. What an awful experience that would be. Those would be horror visions to them.

Look the bottom line is that this is just BUNK!!!!!! Like so many other saying in the church.... remember the beyond a shadow of a doubt. Almost every testimony was I know it beyond a shadow of doubt. Yet those same people did not even pay tithing they did not have temple recommends and they knew it beyond a shadow of a doubt. It was just popular to say. So is this I feel like our family is missing someone.

It is a superstition that I would like to squash if I could. There are many more in the church but this one gets to me.

Revelation has ceased in our time. We have no need for it

Who urinated in your cheerios :ymtongue:

Two experiences; My wife, a dental assistant, her bosses wife couldn't have children, they had adopted two, both from unwed mothers. One day she excitedly announced she was going to have another baby, a week later they were contacted by an adoption agency concerning another unwed mother who wanted her child in a good home, they soon had three kids.

Second experience; Jo and I had six kids, she was pregnant with our seventh, but just before it was born Jo passed out, fell and we lost the baby. Taking the prior advice of a General Authority we managed to have our children two or more years apart, Jo's dr suggested we have no more children, but Jo would have none of it, she wanted another baby, and insisted on it. We got a girl, the baby we lost was a boy. Thing is, Jo just loved he babies, she loved holding them, nursing them, and couldn't stand being away from them. But she knew she had to have another baby!

It's my opinion that in the pre-existence spirits actually commit to one another through the female spirits. In other words, no matter who the female marries in mortality, she gives the spirits committed to her, then that commitment continues through the daughters.

If a husband married in the temple is stupid enough to cause sealings to be cancelled, it's he who loses the children, the children stay sealed to the mother. If she is married and sealed to another man, her children becomes children to the new husband. Tough on stupid husbands, but right for the righteous sisters!

Bob