What constitutes APOSTASY? And helping each other avoid it

[CHH]

I think they just did not want to be associated with "conspiracy theories" -- from what I read in the newspapers.

If the BYU or the church does not want to be associated with "conspiracy theories" they should disavow the Boom of Mormon.

[Captain Moroni]

CHH, what is Boom of Mormon?

[TheBrotherOfJared]

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[Captain Moroni]

Brother, I see you're getting the HORRIBLE picture. For the wise virgins, yes there will be refuges in the MW wilderness. For the unwise, they will be faced to make a decision about the mark and denying Christ to be able to work and trade in the beast's economic system. That will NOT be an easy decision as you see you're little ones starving and homeless becaue you won't deny the Christ. Many will deny the Christ for the sake of their children.

[TheBrotherOfJared]

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[Captain Moroni]

MW= Moutain West, NOT just Utah and not just the USA. IF the call comes to leave your home like Lehi did and go into the wilderness, IT WILL COME THORUGH PRIESTHOOD CHANNLES. DON'T LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU DIFFERENTLY.

[TheBrotherOfJared]

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[Captain Moroni]

IMO, there will be saints living in the refuge areas that will consecrate their lands to the Church (i.e. Live the LofC) or agree to let immigrating saints to live rent free.

Some of these refuge areas will be near the Cardston, Manti, and St. George Temples... perhaps many more but there have been no visions of others that I'm aware of.

[TheBrotherOfJared]

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[Proud 2b Peculiar]

Who had these visions?

[Captain Moroni]

Brother, much better than internet. Connections with Kolob though beam up machines like on Star Trek..

Proud, IF you seek references I will try to give them to you. Unfortuantely, when my computer crashed a few months ago, I lost many files. A lot of Church related items. Oh well.

I will try to reconstruct but it could take some time. Can you be patient? Can you help?

[CHH]

CHH, what is Boom of Mormon?

It is a spelling error. Did you need to rephrase the question to ask what I meant? Or are you intelligent enough to figure it out on your own?

[Captain Moroni]

CHH, no need. Sometimes I can be REAL dense.

[CHH]

Will they have internet connection there?

What is an internet connection but a Urim and Thummim? The stone is a Urim and Thummim.

And the key word to use it is your new name.

THE REVELATION
OF ST JOHN THE DIVINE
CHAPTER 2
17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that aovercometh will I give to eat of the hidden bmanna, and will give him a cwhite dstone, and in the stone a new ename written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.


Footnotes
17a
Rom. 6: 22 (11-22).
22 But now being made afree from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your bfruit unto choliness, and the end everlasting life.
Rom. 12: 21 (4-21).
21 Be not overcome of evil, but aovercome evil with good.
b
TG Bread of Life.
TG Jesus Christ, Types of, in Anticipation.
c
D&C 130: 11 (10-11).
11 And a awhite stone is given to each of those who come into the celestial kingdom, whereon is a new bname written, which no man knoweth save he that receiveth it. The new name is the key word.
d
TG Urim and Thummim.
e
Isa. 62: 2.
2 And the Gentiles shall asee thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new bname, which the mouth of the Lord shall name.
Isa. 65: 15.
15 And ye shall leave your name for a acurse unto my chosen: for the Lord God shall slay thee, and call his servants by another bname:
Rev. 19: 12 (12-16).
12 His aeyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a bname written, that no man knew, but he himself.
TG Name.

[ShawnC]

CHH, no need. Sometimes I can be REAL dense.

Agreed!

[TheBrotherOfJared]

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[Captain Moroni]

Brother, did the Lord give time to Lehi to liquidate his assets? How about the Nauvoo saints?

We have been warned for years to get out of debt, to use the criteria of buying homes, cars, etc according the the Temple criteria: sufficient for our needs. How long have we been told to have a year's supply? AS ETB said, we don't need more words of the prophets: we need listening ears.

So NO, what you sow you shall reap. Just be ready spiritually and physically for April, 2009.

[ShawnC]

MW= Moutain West, NOT just Utah and not just the USA. IF the call comes to leave your home like Lehi did and go into the wilderness, IT WILL COME THORUGH PRIESTHOOD CHANNLES. DON'T LET ANYONE CONVINCE YOU DIFFERENTLY.

I would think the church would give ample time for those who own homes so they can sell it and use the cash to buy survival equipment such as travel trailers so they can move to these church owned or consecrated lands.

I'm with Private Doug (you've been officially demoted ) on this one, (except for the April 09 thing), but I really think that the counsel we have been given over the years is all for a good reason. No need to take time to sell things and etc., when call comes it is time to forsake all and follow the Lord.

[Captain Moroni]

We are told to prepare and NOT go in haste. It seems to me that God through the Prophets have given us time to prepare fully. IF my April, 2009 date is correct (you will find out soon), then we still have 6 months to prepare.

[ldsff]

We are told to prepare and NOT go in haste. It seems to me that God through the Prophets have given us time to prepare fully. IF my April, 2009 date is correct (you will find out soon), then we still have 6 months to prepare.

I think I missed something. What is going on in April 2009?

[Captain Moroni]

ldsff , go to God and ask him. I have discussed this over and over again over the past four weeks.

[TheBrotherOfJared]

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[Captain Moroni]

Brother of Jared, here is my scenario.

Probably in early April, 2009 (remember GC occurs then), each Stake President and then to the Bishops will receive a PRIVATE communication from The 1st Presidency to contact all his members privately and have them bring their year's supply to the Wardhouse to dedicate it. Everyone will thus have partially started living the Law of Consecration.

The Church will have detaiuled directions of exactly what to do including renting U-Hauls, etc to consolidate the dedicated food supplies. This will have a deadline of 72 hours before the trucks leave for the MW wilderness. The saints will NOT be asked to dedicate their 72 hour kit. With constant driving, the saints anywhere in the USA can reach the MW wilderness. Wise virgins in other lands will have safe haven provided.

Then members will journey into the MW wilderness to their assigned locations leaving all behind just like Lehi had to do. The Church is good at organizating such matters. Also, remember that each SP should have a satellite telephone as part of Emergency Preparedness.

Honestly, let each of us do some deep soul searching. How many saints including me and you would leave all behind? In essence to be willing to live the FULL LofC? Only, the wise virgins who are praped both spiritually and physically.

We will see by April, 2009 if my scenario or something like happens in just 6 MONTHS. If I'm wrong, so be it. You will be better prepared both spiritually and physically. In other words, a win-win situation.

Make sure you have a current TR and USE it as mcuh as possible. This will greatly increase our level of spirituality and committ,ment to live all Covenants.

Search your heart and soul so you are 100% committed to living the FULL LofC. You can't wait until April,2009 to do this just like the unwise virgins tried to do but the door was locked.