If you become a God some day...

[Col. Flagg]

what will your 10 commandments be? The same as our Lord's? And, were the 10 commandments given to Moses specific for his children who would come down to this earth or could they have been something that had been handed down from generations of other Gods as something that is 'written in stone' (pun not intended) for all spirit children to abide by? If they are something specific handed down to this earth by our God through the Prophet Moses, then I know one I am including already if I am fortunate enough to make God status one day (heaven help us right)... 'Thou shalt not create credit, paper money or go into debt for anything'! That one alone should help prevent a LOT of families from breaking up and marriages from ending in divorce on my earth.

[iamse7en]

The 10 commandments were part of the lesser law because the Children of Israel rejected the higher law. Because of their choices, they had a different set of laws and commandments. Law is adapted to the light and capacity of the recipients. That is why God's commandments have not stayed exactly the same throughout these last 6000 years. God is the constant, mortals are the variable. So, to answer your question, I have no idea what my 10 commandments would be or if they would be revealed. But I certainly would reveal light on the evils of fiat money... it will only be the "radicals" that will accept and share this light, so hopefully others listen to them.

Perhaps Harry Reid's world wouldn't receive such light. Tongue is in my cheek.

[Nan]

If I become a God some day, I intend to spend the first 1,000 years sleeping. I am so tired all of the time.

I think I would go with what God has done here. We have been warned so many times to stay out of debt. Most people aren't listening. I think he made them short and to the point hoping they would be easier that way.

[HeirofNumenor]

Those 10 Commandments are the most basic list of the major sins that plague mankind...to go more specific runs the risk of making them too unwieldy, complicated, hard to remember....not to mention a lot harder for Moses to carry....(just TWO stone tablets were heavy enough!) :p

[Samuel the Lamanite]

I don't have to worry because according to some here on the forum, I'm an apostate or one in waiting. :-ss

[ndjili]

First I'm not even going speculate anything beyond this life. How does the song go...."wake up and do something more, than dream of your mansions above..."
Also I dont think Gods laws change...the big 10 still apply to us today...and we are still living lesser laws....tithing anyone...

[LukeAir2008]

I don't have to worry because according to some here on the forum, I'm an apostate or one in waiting. :-ss

Hey, Its ok to be called an apostate - it just depends on why they're calling you an apostate. When the High Priest was slapping and spitting in Jesus's face he was accusing him of being an an apostate. Its usually the real apostates doing the name calling. I get called an apostate because I believe in the teachings of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, Wilford Woodruff etc. If that makes you an apostate in 2011 then Im proud to be an apostate

[Samuel the Lamanite]

Luke: IF you haven't been attacked by some on the forum YET, you will be. I can promise you that. I wonder how Samauel the Laminate felt when he was attacked by those trying to kill him?

[Original_Intent]

Luke: IF you haven't been attacked by some on the forum YET, you will be. I can promise you that. I wonder how Samauel the Laminate felt when he was attacked by those trying to kill him?

There you go again...

[Samuel the Lamanite]

OI: Is my statement true or false? I wish I could say false. I respect that you differ with me on some issues but I will never say that your on your way to apsotacy thus closing the dialogue.

[HeirofNumenor]

Luke: IF you haven't been attacked by some on the forum YET, you will be. I can promise you that. I wonder how Samauel the Laminate felt when he was attacked by those trying to kill him?

There you go again...

:ymsigh:

[Original_Intent]

OI: Is my statement true or false? I wish I could say false. I respect that you differ with me on some issues but I will never say that your on your way to apsotacy thus closing the dialogue.

And I have never said that you are on the road to apostacy. In most things I consider you well ahead of me (if it's a contest) as far as knowledge, and I think you are an upstanding guy. but there is a lakc of hesitation to call the brethren to account that I fear is an Achilles heel for you. I'm not trying to contend with you, but you can ask any of my friends (and yes, believe it or not, I have some) - I am much more demanding and critical of my friends than I am of my opponents and those I consider "enemies", (No one on this forum qualifies by a long shot).

Just like I have asked Col Flagg (whom I very much appreciate) to tread carefully when criticising the GAs - same here - I think you are a great man and enjoy what you add to the forum, and it would be a shame for such a great person to throw away all the good things you do and all the knowledge you have gained by stumbling over what I consider covenant breaking.

I was in very strong disagreement with the church leadership on their stance on undocumented workers BUT I HELD MY TONGUE - nto that I din;t speak often and loudly about what I believed to be right, but I refrained from speaking negatively about them, if you see the difference. And recently I had an opportunity come up that changed my position 180 degrees literally within a day. And this was not a postiion I held lightly, i had studied, I felt very strongly that my position was the right one, and that this was something that the brethren were just incorrect on.

Now I KNOW better.

[sbsion]

all principles of laws are eternal, if we don't "obey" them, we won't be a GOD....that's what makes Him "A" God, the 10 commandments are merely the "milk" edition or "pearls before swine", if you can get past yourself and dwell on helping others, then you can rise above "criticism"......to be an apostate in "mans" interpretation is probably a plus, it's what the GODS "think" that matters. Olivers excommunication for apostacy was problem a plus, but, not understood by man?

[HeirofNumenor]

I was in very strong disagreement with the church leadership on their stance on undocumented workers BUT I HELD MY TONGUE - nto that I din;t speak often and loudly about what I believed to be right, but I refrained from speaking negatively about them, if you see the difference. And recently I had an opportunity come up that changed my position 180 degrees literally within a day. And this was not a postiion I held lightly, i had studied, I felt very strongly that my position was the right one, and that this was something that the brethren were just incorrect on.

Now I KNOW better.

Any spiritual; change, any conversion, any coming to an understanding of the Truth (e.g. Gospel-wise), can only come from humbling one's self, humbling and sincerely asking God to show you the way, being humble enough to set aside your own pride and previously held positions....and being quiet and still enough to listen and be able to hear the whispering of the Holy Ghost, and/or the voice of God - telling you His way is correct...NOT your way...takes humility to acknowledge that also...


These spiritual truths cannot be learned by intellectual study and analysis, nor by any exercise of logic/logic games, or deductive/inductive reasoning. They can lead you to begin understanding background facts and circumstances, but by themselves cannot lead to a mighty change of heart. You can prove anything by logic - then turn around and prove the opposite by using logic. The Holy Ghost is sure.

[HeirofNumenor]

all principles of laws are eternal, if we don't "obey" them, we won't be a GOD....that's what makes Him "A" God, the 10 commandments are merely the "milk" edition or "pearls before swine", if you can get past yourself and dwell on helping others, then you can rise above "criticism"......to be an apostate in "mans" interpretation is probably a plus, it's what the GODS "think" that matters. Olivers excommunication for apostacy was problem a plus, but, not understood by man?

to be an apostate in "mans" interpretation is probably a plus,

Do you mean apostate = heretic (as in the Arian heresy in the 200's AD?)...Because normally when we say apostate, we generally have in mind someone like the guys who did "The Godmakers", Fawn Brodie, or the Tanners...

[Samuel the Lamanite]

Darn, I had writteh a long post but lost it before sending. I suppose the personal I revealed about myself were NOT to be made public.

To me a LDS apostate is one who deny's Jospeh Smith, the BofM, and continuing revelation having once declared them to be true. I find that apostates can't leave the Church alone but become attackers after they leave willingly or are EXed. It was Apostates who tried to muder JS in Kirtland and were successful in Nauvoo. A true apostate is in great danger of Telestial Kingdom and IF deny the HG revelations they once received, possibly outer darkness.

I have seen NO comments made here including my own that even come close to apostacy. Yes, some may disqualify one for a TR.

[SpeedRacer]

what will your 10 commandments be? The same as our Lord's? And, were the 10 commandments given to Moses specific for his children who would come down to this earth or could they have been something that had been handed down from generations of other Gods as something that is 'written in stone' (pun not intended) for all spirit children to abide by? If they are something specific handed down to this earth by our God through the Prophet Moses, then I know one I am including already if I am fortunate enough to make God status one day (heaven help us right)... 'Thou shalt not create credit, paper money or go into debt for anything'! That one alone should help prevent a LOT of families from breaking up and marriages from ending in divorce on my earth.

This question is so fundamental it is sometimes scary to think about. I like the pose earlier talking about the big bang and if it were real then it would have had to be matter and law. This goes back to the council in heaven. It was not Jesus' plan vs. Satan's plan we know that. You could call it Heavenly Father's plan, but it may not be the actual being that sired your spirit, but the great Father in Heaven back an infinity of generations. Law is law. I don't think that God pulled the 10 commandements, his gospel, or anything else out of thin air, but that is just the way things work. After spending millions of years learning, he found out how it all works, and the law he gives us enlightens us on how we can operate within the universal law to our benefit.

Anytime we suppose to create laws, however benficial we may think they are, are creating a plan like that of Satan where people are forced to something a way they don't want to. You just give the law and let people live.

As for the comment on divorce, it was not the paper money or the debt that caused the divorce, but the individuals in the marriage that had set their heart on money, and had grown to love it more than their spouse. They simply ingnored the passage that the love of money was the root of all evil, and loved it to the demise of their marriage. It is sad that it happens so often.

[sbsion]

[Do you mean apostate = heretic (as in the Arian heresy in the 200's AD?)...Because normally when we say apostate, we generally have in mind someone like the guys who did "The Godmakers", Fawn Brodie, or the Tanners...

is it possilble that we could all be found to be hertics to today, compared the the church the Joseph Smith restored, if we maintained his "stature"?

[Samuel the Lamanite]

SB: IMO, that is a key question and one have asked myself many times except I add BY, JT, etc, etc stopping with the death of ETB. I just KNOW this.. the Church I joined in 1965 is different in good ways but I also drifting towards wanting to more popualr and accepted by Baylon. The recent Letter on Illegal Immigration IMO tends in that direction.