Ron Paul runs - Ron Paul Wins!

[dauser]

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Ron Paul is doing satanic salutes and handshakes? What is going on here?

Are we being deceived?

Someone needs to debunk this!

[LoveIsTruth]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread749005/pg1

Ron Paul is doing satanic salutes and handshakes? What is going on here?

Are we being deceived?

Someone needs to debunk this!

American sign language for I LOVE YOU! Common man!

[LoveIsTruth]

New Ron Paul 2012 Ad: Trust

[LoveIsTruth]

Ron Paul speech at Palmetto Freedom Forum 9/5/2011

Awesome!

[LoveIsTruth]

Why Ron Paul (In 60 Seconds)

[LoveIsTruth]

Ron Paul Rally - Post Debate Speech - Columbia, SC 09-05-11

Wow!

[Jason]

Check out his stance on sound money, and free competition in currencies. Right after righteousness of the people NOTHING is so key to survival and triumph of Liberty as sound and honest monetary system.

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yeppers....and the verdict is still out!

[silver] Probably have a couple more weeks of run time......and I wouldn't be surprised to see silver hit 50 in the next 2 to 3 weeks. Should hit the debt ceiling this next week.....or two at the most.....so speculation will be rampant as to the outcome.

I think we will see the peak during the next month or two. Probably in the $20-$30 range 6 months out (Oct/Nov).....in the $10-20 range (Feb/Mar 2012).....and $5-10 at 12 months (May/June 2012).

So "couple more weeks of run" says you? Ha!

Ok.

In 6 month (Oct-Nov 2011) $50-$70 or so.

Feb-Mar 2012: $80-90 ($100 is possible).

April 2012: $120 or thereabouts.

Within 2 years at least $200, probably much higher within 3.

Theoretically, it is going to infinity as the dollar that we have now is going to ZERO.

....just chugged over $39.50 this afternoon -
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....and up a couple of bucks.....and now down a couple of bucks....with much speculation in regard to the Bernank's comments in Jackson Hole at the end of the week.

....looks like Oct/Nov might be in the middle of our predictions ($30-$50)??? Wouldn't that be wonderfully ironic...LOL!

[LoveIsTruth]

It's not October yet.

[Jason]

It's not October yet.

LOL....so true!

[InfoWarrior82]

Ron Paul excerpts from the GOP debate in Simi Valley, California on 9/7/2011

[InfoWarrior82]

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Poll Shows Ron Paul Won Debate at Reagan Shrine

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
September 8, 2011

It’s embarrassing for the establishment. They keep holding these “debates” and Ron Paul keeps winning. The corporate media keeps posting polls and Ron Paul keeps winning. And yet we are told he can’t possibly win the nomination.

Following the dog and pony show at the Ronnie Reagan library last night, the “NBC News Political Unit” posted a poll on their website asking who won.



Ron Paul is the winner with 48 percent of nearly 100,000 votes (as of 7 AM CST). Mitt the Democrat who wants you to think he is a Republican came in a distant second at a mere 18 percent. Michele Bachmann, the Tea Party decoy came in with a pathetic 2.4 percent of the votes. Rick Santorum barely registered at 1.1%.

Polls are irrelevant to “pundits” who love the state, though. For instance, over at the “conservative” website Newsmax, Ron Paul is considered the loser “because he’s just so out of it” and because he dissed Ronnie at his very own shrine-library. Paul dared speak the truth – Ronnie talked the talk, but when the rubber met the pavement he turned out to be just another tax-and-spender, or rather borrow-and-spender.

The Washington Post didn’t even mention Ron Paul when it talked about winners and losers. Rick Santorum, John Huntsman and the veteran globalist insider Newt Gingrich warranted more coverage, even though they obviously are not considered serious candidates by the American people, or those who are not yet completely disenchanted with politics and still pay attention.

USA Today and the rest of the corporate media ignored Paul as much as possible. They spent a lot of time discussing “job creation” and the exchange between the statist from Texas and the one from Massachusetts, both who actually think (or their wranglers do) that government can create jobs.

Perry attacked Social Security – in order to maintain his fake Tea Party stance – and Romney attacked Perry for daring to criticize the retirement fund at gunpoint program. Both “front-runners” spent most of the night worshiping the state.

Although the NBC poll showed Perry coming in a dismal third, the Los Angeles Times declared him the “the presumptive GOP front-runner” and said Paul and the other candidates “often seemed like extras, visible but silent much of the time.”

Ron Paul was “silent” because he was not asked questions by NBC news anchor Brian Williams and Politico editor John Harris. Ron Paul won the debate, “even though you gave him almost zero time to speak, and gave him questions designed to make him look like an idiot when you did,” a comment on the NBC poll page notes.

Mother Jones – the fount for “progressives” – declared the debate a toss-up between “Governor Goodhair” and the establishment Tea Party diva Michele Bachmann. They didn’t mention Paul, either, even though anti-war Democrats would do well to back Paul, the only candidate who does not support attacking small countries and militarily occupying them.

The “debate” was held in order to give the impression that the two front-runners are slugging it out and the others are merely stage props.

Millions of Americans are coming around to Ron Paul and his message. It is up to the establishment media to ignore him and get people thinking about Rick Perry and Mitt Romney who will if elected continue the charade of endless wars and a bankster dominated economy.

[LoveIsTruth]

Ron Paul takes O'Reilly to School



Thanks Guys for Posting!

[InfoWarrior82]

Ron Paul takes O'Reilly to School



Thanks Guys for Posting!

=))


Interviewer: "See that wasn't so bad... you wouldn't have been able to explain this to O'Reilly?"

Ron Paul: "He wouldn't have understood it."

[LoveIsTruth]

NY Sun: Ron Paul’s Secret Weapon

"Ron Paul gives the impression that he is animated by a clear and coherent set of principles in which he deeply believes. His sense of principle is his source of power, his secret weapon."

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[LoveIsTruth]

Huffington Post:
"I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul"

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[Jason]

Huffington Post:
"I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-a ... 44097.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is that a good thing....or a bad thing????

[LoveIsTruth]

Huffington Post:
"I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-a ... 44097.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is that a good thing....or a bad thing????

Excellent!

[Mark]

Huffington Post:
"I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-a ... 44097.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is that a good thing....or a bad thing????

Those who want to do whatever "feels good" with no moral accountability love anyone who gives them license to do so. Of course the ultra libs love a libertarian. They can go smoke their weed and whoremonger and sodomize to their little liberal hearts content without fear of reprisal. :ymparty:

Actually Jason you need to listen to the 1st hour of the program before Col. Klink (JK mate)started talking about 9-11. It was an interview with a fellow by the name of Jim Norlander talking about the foundations of the constitution and the role that righteousness plays in preserving liberty.

http://libertynewsradio.com/shows/lrt/2011/september/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He said a people can never use their freedoms or agency to destroy liberty which in essence is the foundational principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ and defined as Gods law, word, and spirit. Morality and virtue are paramount to protecting and preserving the liberty of a people and without it the constitutional republic crumbles. Both Jim and the host made wonderful points about liberty. He said he was speaking tonight at 7 in Orem at the new Boy scout office at 748 N 1340 W.

That is the only way our constitutional republic can survive. I wish everyone could understand that and teach that to their children.

[LoveIsTruth]

Huffington Post:
"I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-a ... 44097.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is that a good thing....or a bad thing????

Those who want to do whatever "feels good" with no moral accountability love anyone who gives them license to do so. Of course the ultra libs love a libertarian. They can go smoke their weed and whoremonger and sodomize to their little liberal hearts content without fear of reprisal. :ymparty:

With the same logic you might argue that God encouraged idle worship and wickedness when He said: Choose you this day whom you will serve.


Granting liberty is not the same as giving license for or encouraging wickedness. Liberty was so important that God was willing to see 1/3 of his children leave heaven than to destroy this most important principle of all, a principle without which joy, the purpose of life, is impossible. You should learn from Him, before you accuse Ron Paul of "giving license" to wickedness. He said it repeatedly, that he believes the purpose of life is to strive for moral excellence. And I believe him.

[Jason]

Huffington Post:
"I Voted for Obama, Now I'm Voting for Ron Paul"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-a ... 44097.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is that a good thing....or a bad thing????

Those who want to do whatever "feels good" with no moral accountability love anyone who gives them license to do so. Of course the ultra libs love a libertarian. They can go smoke their weed and whoremonger and sodomize to their little liberal hearts content without fear of reprisal. :ymparty:

Actually Jason you need to listen to the 1st hour of the program before Col. Klink (JK mate)started talking about 9-11. It was an interview with a fellow by the name of Jim Norlander talking about the foundations of the constitution and the role that righteousness plays in preserving liberty.

http://libertynewsradio.com/shows/lrt/2011/september/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He said a people can never use their freedoms or agency to destroy liberty which in essence is the foundational principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ and defined as Gods law, word, and spirit. Morality and virtue are paramount to protecting and preserving the liberty of a people and without it the constitutional republic crumbles. Both Jim and the host made wonderful points about liberty. He said he was speaking tonight at 7 in Orem at the new Boy scout office at 748 N 1340 W.

That is the only way our constitutional republic can survive. I wish everyone could understand that and teach that to their children.

Thank you for the link Mark!!!

[Jason]

Is that a good thing....or a bad thing????

Those who want to do whatever "feels good" with no moral accountability love anyone who gives them license to do so. Of course the ultra libs love a libertarian. They can go smoke their weed and whoremonger and sodomize to their little liberal hearts content without fear of reprisal. :ymparty:

With the same logic you might argue that God encouraged idle worship and wickedness when He said: Choose you this day whom you will serve.


Granting liberty is not the same as giving license for or encouraging wickedness. Liberty was so important that God was willing to see 1/3 of his children leave heaven than to destroy this most important principle of all, a principle without which joy, the purpose of life, is impossible. You should learn from Him, before you accuse Ron Paul of "giving license" to wickedness. He said it repeatedly, that he believes the purpose of life is to strive for moral excellence. And I believe him.

[Matthew.B]

Can I pop in just to say that the title of this thread always makes me LOL (in a good way)?

The simplicity and hope of the title, coupled with a childlike exuberance over Paul's campaign right now, along with the mental image of Dr. Paul in a photo finish at the end of a foot race (complete with athletic attire) always makes me =)) on the inside.

I feel that that really, really needed to be shared because it's 3:39 AM and I'm up because I'm trying to reset my circadian rhythm and my cats ran off, too tired to let me harass them anymore.

Okay, carry on with more Ron Paul updates. I'll be sitting here with my popcorn, watching :-B ... and waiting :!! ...



I could have sworn there was a popcorn smilie here somewhere...

[Mark]

This basic principle of liberty is so crucial to understand in all this discussion and even though I think some like Jason understand this I still think that the lines are blurred here on this forum. Liberty is not agency. We can use our agency to obtain liberty but we are not guaranteed that liberty because of Gods gift of agency to us.

The reason I posted that link on Liberty radio for Jason is because he understands this principle so well in looking at the politicians of today. I will repeat some of Bro. Norlanders points in the radio program because I think they are so critical to grasp.

He quoted Patrick Henry who said that this great nation was established not by religionists but by Christians; not based on religion but on the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Liberty as in the context of the preamble of the constitution is defined as Gods law, His word, and His spirit. Securing the blessings of liberty for all means securing the blessings of Gods law, His word, and His spirit. Therefore to really advocate these blessings one must ask "What would the Lord say about the issues of our day such as Abortion, same sex marriage, socialism, debt, sabbath observence etc etc." That is why the scriptures are vital in defining the blessings of liberty into its proper context.

We can not have a more perfect union without Gods law, His word, and His spirit. The scriptures teach that where the spirit of the Lord is there will be liberty. That is why national morality is absolutely critical if the blessings of liberty are to be found. It is the fuel that runs that vehicle of liberty. People can have freedom or agency given them but if they don't understand the principles behind liberty they will throw it all away and harm each other in the process.

If anyone promotes or even accepts principles of immorality they are not in tune with Gods law and His spirit and they are practicing a deception. You can not promote immorality on the alter of Gods laws. Therefore one must never use freedom or agency to destroy liberty. This is the flaw in the strict libertarian mindset. If a country accepts principles of wickedness and immorality it will lose its spiritual soul and therefore liberty will be lost.

No politicians today that I can see are advocating a true return to liberty based on its proper definition of a return to Gods law and his word as found in his scriptures. National morality is the only answer to what ails us as a nation and without it we are doomed to failure. That is just the way it is.

[Jason]

This basic principle of liberty is so crucial to understand in all this discussion and even though I think some like Jason understand this I still think that the lines are blurred here on this forum. Liberty is not agency. We can use our agency to obtain liberty but we are not guaranteed that liberty because of Gods gift of agency to us.

The reason I posted that link on Liberty radio for Jason is because he understands this principle so well in looking at the politicians of today. I will repeat some of Bro. Norlanders points in the radio program because I think they are so critical to grasp.

He quoted Patrick Henry who said that this great nation was established not by religionists but by Christians; not based on religion but on the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Liberty as in the context of the preamble of the constitution is defined as Gods law, His word, and His spirit. Securing the blessings of liberty for all means securing the blessings of Gods law, His word, and His spirit. Therefore to really advocate these blessings one must ask "What would the Lord say about the issues of our day such as Abortion, same sex marriage, socialism, debt, sabbath observence etc etc." That is why the scriptures are vital in defining the blessings of liberty into its proper context.

We can not have a more perfect union without Gods law, His word, and His spirit. The scriptures teach that where the spirit of the Lord is there will be liberty. That is why national morality is absolutely critical if the blessings of liberty are to be found. It is the fuel that runs that vehicle of liberty. People can have freedom or agency given them but if they don't understand the principles behind liberty they will throw it all away and harm each other in the process.

If anyone promotes or even accepts principles of immorality they are not in tune with Gods law and His spirit and they are practicing a deception. You can not promote immorality on the alter of Gods laws. Therefore one must never use freedom or agency to destroy liberty. This is the flaw in the strict libertarian mindset. If a country accepts principles of wickedness and immorality it will lose its spiritual soul and therefore liberty will be lost.

No politicians today that I can see are advocating a true return to liberty based on its proper definition of a return to Gods law and his word as found in his scriptures. National morality is the only answer to what ails us as a nation and without it we are doomed to failure. That is just the way it is.

At the opening of this century, President Joseph F. Smith explained the importance of temporal salvation and its relationship to spiritual salvation:

“You must continue to bear in mind that the temporal and spiritual are blended. They are not separate. One cannot be carried on without the other, so long as we are here in mortality. …

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I have titled these remarks “The Perfect Law of Liberty.”

As a youth, I was stirred by Patrick Henry’s famous battle cry, “Give me liberty or give me death!”

The meaning of the word liberty is difficult to circumscribe. Abraham Lincoln was of the opinion that “the world has never had a good definition of [the term]. We all declare for liberty,” he said; “but in using the same word we do not mean the same thing. With some, the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself and the product of his labor; while with others [liberty] may mean for some men to do as they please with other men and the product of other men’s labor.”

Again he said, “The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep’s throat, for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act.” (Address, 18 Apr. 1864; quoted in John Bartlett, Familiar Quotations, 15th ed., Boston: Little, Brown and Co., 1980, p. 523.)

The issues have changed since the time of Lincoln, but the multipurpose use of the word liberty and its synonym freedom has not changed. The sweets of liberty about which we usually speak may be classified as (1) political independence, (2) economic freedom, and (3) free agency.

I would have us strive for that liberty which comprehends all three of these freedoms, and more. I would have us strive for a freedom of the soul to which they all contribute. I would have us attain that blessed state foreshadowed by the Prophet Joseph Smith when he said, “Let virtue garnish thy thoughts unceasingly; then shall thy confidence wax strong in the presence of God.” (D&C 121:45.) One who enjoys such liberty is, in the words of Jesus, “free indeed.” (John 8:36.) He is possessed of perfect liberty.

I invite your attention to a few illustrations in support of the thesis that, while political independence, economic freedom, and free agency may contribute to liberty of the soul, they do not guarantee it.

First, as to political independence and power:

In this field, perhaps the exploits of Alexander the Great are among the most widely known. With high physical courage, impulsive energy, and fervid imagination, he, at the unripe age of thirty-two years, became to all intents and purposes master of the then-known world. But he was far from enjoying liberty, for of himself he was not master. In his thirty-third year he died, a victim of his own excesses, a total stranger to freedom of the soul.

Cardinal Wolsey learned, to his sorrow, how little political independence and even political power can contribute to true liberty. You may recall that he gave a long life in the service of two English sovereigns, enjoying all the while great freedom and political power. Finally, however, he was shorn of all his greatness by an impatient king. As he stood, disillusioned, among the ruins of his life, he lamented to his friend,
O Cromwell, Cromwell!
Had I but served my God with half the zeal
I served my king, he would not in mine age
Have left me naked to mine enemies.

(William Shakespeare, Henry VIII, act 3, sc. 2.)

Several years ago an article appeared in a magazine concerning some of the financial wizards of this century. It recorded how some of these men had died broke and in disgrace; others had committed suicide, and some had spent time in prison. All of the men had obtained, temporarily at least, economic freedom, but to none of them did their economic abundance bring freedom of the soul.

While perhaps it is seldom, if ever, contended that either political independence or economic freedom alone brings perfect liberty, it is not, however, uncommon for free agency to be considered as synonymous with freedom of the soul. And it is true that the God-given right to choose one’s course of action is an indispensable prerequisite to such freedom. Without it we can scarcely enjoy any type of liberty—political, economic, or personal. It is one of our greatest heritages. For it we are deeply indebted to our Father in Heaven, to the Founding Fathers, and to the pioneers. God gave it to man in the Garden of Eden. (See Moses 7:32.) The Founding Fathers, under the Lord’s inspiration, wrote a guarantee of it into the fundamental law of the land. And the pioneers, led by the inspiration of heaven, gave their all to perpetuate it. Surely we ought always to be alert in its defense and willing, if necessary, to give our lives for its preservation.

Free agency, however, precious as it is, is not of itself the perfect liberty we seek, nor does it necessarily lead thereto. As a matter of fact, through the exercise of their agency more people have come to political, economic, and personal bondage than to liberty.

The Nephites, for example, at one time, by the exercise of their agency, brought themselves to such a state of affairs that their only course led to political bondage. This they did while living under a government providing for the freest exercise of agency. “Their laws and their governments,” says the record, “were established by the voice of the people, and they who chose evil were more numerous than they who chose good.” Therefore, “they could not be governed by the law nor justice, save it were to their destruction.” (Hel. 5:2–3.) Under these circumstances, they chose as rulers wicked men, who would certainly destroy their political liberties, to replace righteous men who had in the past protected and preserved those liberties and would have continued to do so in the future.

The freewill choosing of a king by the Jaredites led directly to their captivity. (See Ether 6:21–7:5.)

This sequence was repeated in the days of Israel. The people—rejecting government by judges, which God had established—clamored for Samuel to give them a king. Notwithstanding Samuel’s warning that a king would make servants of their children, lay heavy taxes and services upon their backs, and send them to war, “the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel, [saying,] Nay; but we will have a king over us;

“That we also may be like all the nations.” (1 Sam. 8:19–20.)

Samuel therefore anointed Saul to be their king. In due time, just as Samuel had predicted, heavy burdens were laid upon them, their sons and daughters were made servants of the king, and war came. The nation was divided into two kingdoms, Israel and Judah, both of which were, in their turn, carried away into captivity. Not only did they lose their political freedom, but their very political existence as nations was terminated.

We have a classic example of the loss of economic freedom by the misuse of free agency in the book of Genesis. The Egyptians, instead of exercising their agency to provide for themselves against a day of need, depended upon the government. As a result, when the famine came they were forced to purchase food from the government. First they used their money. When that was gone, they gave their livestock, then their lands; and finally they were compelled to sell themselves into slavery, that they might eat. (See Gen. 41:54–56; Gen. 47:13–26.)

We ourselves have gone a long way down this road during the last century. My counsel is that we beware of the doctrine which encourages us to seek government-supported security rather than to put faith in our own industry. Remember Pope’s peasant who, having been served the rich man’s feast and finding the consequences, complained:
“An’t please Your Honour,” quoth the peasant,
“This same dessert is not so pleasant:
Give me again my hollow tree,
A crust of bread and Liberty.”

(Alexander Pope, “The Sixth Satire of the Second Book of Horace,” lines 218–21.)

With respect to the loss of personal liberty through the misuse of free agency, our daily lives are filled with tragic evidence. We see the alcoholic with his craving for drink, the dope fiend in his frenzy, and worse, the pervert with his irretrievable loss of manhood. Who will say that such persons enjoy liberty?

Notwithstanding the fact that through its misuse, political, economic, and personal liberty are lost, free agency will always endure because it is an eternal principle. However, the free agency possessed by any one person is increased or diminished by the use to which he puts it. Every wrong decision one makes restricts the area in which he can thereafter exercise his agency. The further one goes in the making of wrong decisions in the exercise of free agency, the more difficult it is for him to recover the lost ground. One can, by persisting long enough, reach the point of no return. He then becomes an abject slave. By the exercise of his free agency, he has decreased the area in which he can act, almost to the vanishing point.

Samuel, the Lamanite prophet, speaking to those who so persisted, said: “In the days of your poverty ye shall cry unto the Lord; and in vain shall ye cry, for your desolation is already come upon you, and your destruction is made sure; and then shall ye weep and howl in that day … and say: …

“O that we had repented in the day that the word of the Lord came unto us. …

“Behold, we are surrounded by demons, yea, we are encircled about by the angels of him who hath sought to destroy our souls. … O Lord, canst thou not turn away thine anger from us? And this shall be your language in those days.

“But behold, your days of probation are past; ye have procrastinated the day of your salvation until it is everlastingly too late, and your destruction is made sure.” (Hel. 13:32, 36–38.)

These poor souls have placed themselves in the power of Lucifer and his followers, who, as you remember, became Perdition. (See D&C 76:26.) Their final fate is to be cast out into outer darkness, such punishment being the natural consequence of the alternatives they elected in the exercise of their agency. The fact that they were originally endowed by their Creator with free agency does not save them from the most awful bondage, the bondage of sin.

Just as following wrong alternatives restricts free agency and leads to slavery, so pursuing correct alternatives widens the scope of one’s agency and leads to perfect liberty. As a matter of fact, one may, by this process, obtain freedom of the soul while at the same time being denied political, economic, and personal liberty.

For example, consider the Prophet Joseph Smith. Here was a man enjoying freedom of the soul while suffering the deprivation of almost every other liberty. The experiences of his life were in some respects comparable to those of the Apostle Paul, who in his labors suffered stripes often, imprisonment frequently, and repeatedly faced death. Reviewing some of his experiences for the Corinthians, he said:

“Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.

“Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep;

“In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;

“In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness.” (2 Cor. 11:24–27.)

Notwithstanding all this, he could write to his beloved Timothy from his prison cell in Rome shortly before his death: “I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand.

“I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:

“Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.” (2 Tim. 4:6–8.)

Surely Paul, in his soul, enjoyed perfect freedom.

The Apostle’s conclusion that the reward won by him is to be available to others suggests that there must be a pattern of living by which each of us may attain it, and I believe there is.

Many years ago, while riding through Cleveland, Ohio, on a train, I saw on a building the inscription “Obedience to Law is Liberty.” With the proper interpretation of the word law, we have in this inscription a statement of ultimate truth. By inserting three words, it is made to read, “Obedience to the law of Christ is liberty.” (See D&C 88:21.) This is not only a statement of the perfect law of liberty, but also a statement of the way to perfect liberty.

In the eighth chapter of John is recorded a controversy between Jesus and the rulers of the Jews. They, of course, rejected him. But some who heard believed, and to them he said, “If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:31–32.)

Freedom thus obtained—that is, by obedience to the law of Christ—is freedom of the soul, the highest form of liberty. And the most glorious thing about it is that it is within the reach of every one of us, regardless of what people about us, or even nations, do. All we have to do is learn the law of Christ and obey it. To learn it and obey it is the primary purpose of every soul’s mortal life.

That God may attend and prosper each of us on our way to perfect liberty, I humbly pray in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

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[LoveIsTruth]

If anyone promotes or even accepts principles of immorality they are not in tune with Gods law and His spirit and they are practicing a deception. You can not promote immorality on the alter of Gods laws. Therefore one must never use freedom or agency to destroy liberty. This is the flaw in the strict libertarian mindset. If a country accepts principles of wickedness and immorality it will lose its spiritual soul and therefore liberty will be lost.

And you think Ron Paul PROMOTES immorality? Prove it! He’s been married to the same woman for almost half a century. He is a father, a grandfather, a doctor who delivered over 3,000 babies. In all his interactions that I have observed, he has been nothing but a virtuous man, possessed of the spirit of Liberty. So where do you see him promoting wickedness? He promotes the opposite! He promotes virtue!

No politicians today that I can see are advocating a true return to liberty based on its proper definition of a return to Gods law and his word as found in his scriptures. National morality is the only answer to what ails us as a nation and without it we are doomed to failure. That is just the way it is.

No other politician squares more closely with the teachings of the prophets of God than Ron Paul! Have you not heard of Benson Principle? (http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopi ... 19&t=12347" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) It is a fundamental and true principle of Liberty, as it exists in God himself. Ron Paul is the most perfect embodiment of that eternal principle, more so than any other clown or shill that is running for the presidency now.
Do you think it is MORAL to fight preemptive wars of aggression? Do you think it is MORAL to wiretap and spy on the people? Do you think it is MORAL to torture? Do you think it is MORAL to print money out of thin air and thus plunder the people? Ron Paul is the ONLY one who opposes all these abominations, and not only in word, but in deed, with a 30 year voting record to prove it.

If we are talking about MORALITY, Ron Paul is THE most moral politician that is running for president right now!