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THY SON LIVETH; A son who dies communicates with his mother

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THY SON LIVETH
A son who dies communicates
with his mother through
the veil.

So my mom works in the hospice industry and 8 or so years ago a dying patient of hers (LDS) gave my mom what she said was her favorite book about the afterlife. She said she wished all mothers would have a chance to read it. She believed this book to be true. Written in 1920; The Author of this book was not LDS. My mom now gives it to quite a few of her dying patients who are about to die. ( especially the ladies, they seem to like to read more) My mom says It always brings so much comfort to them. She tries to give Book of Mormons away when she can but has been threatened a few times with law suits by family members. Plus her boss doesn’t like it. it’s a unique book and is not a near death experience book. This one is where someone actually has died and now communicating through the veil with a love one describing what he can. I personally like it so much I posted it on my blog 4 years ago and have received allot of good feed back. More so recently. So I thought I would share it with the forum since there have been a few threads on near death experiences. There are allot of things discussed in it that many LDS people tend to believe what its like after we die. For years I looked for a copy of this book on the internet but it seemed the book didn’t exist. I just noticed the other day that someone within the last year obtained a copy of this and published it. The published one is missing some pages my copy does not. Here is a little background.

The main character is Robbie and his mother. Growing up Robbie was into science and learned wireless communication before he went off to war hoping that instead of writing letters he could communicate a better way with his mother. One day while reading a letter from her son she heard the wireless signal went off “ATTENTION” She knew it was only a matter of time before her son found means to communicate with her through wireless network. When she translated the Morse code Robbie had told her that he was alive and loving her. But that his body was with thousands of other mothers boys bodies on the red battlefield. I will just copy and paste from my blog which I paraphrase, and quote many of his messages. I try and cover as much as possible what he communicates to his mom. But one reading this must know a few things, Robbie is in spirit prison, not paradise. His perception is different than say a murderer or a faithful LDS member. This is not scripture and should not be taken that way. Robbie has a hard time conveying to his mom what its like there because it is so similar to what we are experiencing now. He doesn’t give any future prophecies or predictions. There are a few things that will send up some Red flags but as you will see he will usually says he is not sure and when he learns more he will let his mother know. He goes back and clarifies as he increases his knowledge and understanding. He will often say something like,“ But I am not yet far enough advanced to make any definite or authoritive statement. I only want to start this whole propaganda of a comfort on one sure thing: There is no death.” So when you read for the first time what his perception of marriage is don’t stop. This is one thing he doesn’t understand at first. As you will see Robbie’s main message to his mother is the ONE thing he is certain about is there is no death. Life continues where we leave the previous one. We continue onwards.

Brigham Young said the great grand secret of salvation, which we should continually seek to understand through our faithfulness, is the continuation of lives,-carrying on, going on. If life is not an ongoing thing, If its going to be cut off, than who cares.

It is the question every single person ask themselves at one point in their life. Is this all there is? This is the real question. Science doesn’t answer this. This is the purpose of religion. To answer these questions scientist cant, they don’t though. But the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints does. We know we lived before we were born and will continue when we die. Ironically, this is the message of this very old book. For Robbie’s first and last desire was and is to reassure and comfort the families of the “departed” souls that life doesn’t end after death. Robbie doesn’t like the word death because he feels he never died. He is the same person as he was before he died. He still had his thoughts and feelings. It wasn’t cut off, it didn’t just all completely end. So this more

I want to first give some background, and the mothers testimony. After the background I will quote and paraphrase what he says to his mother. I will quote from the record as much as possible..

MAIN CHARACTERS
Robbie (Bob)
Mother (Robbie’s mother)
The Teachers
Jack Wells
Cooper
Charlie Spenser
Angels



THY SON LIVETH
Messages from a soldier
to his mother

BOSTON
LITTLE, BROWN, AND COMPANY
1920

Growing up Robbie was into science. He “took to telegraphy as a spark takes to the air waves.” He was one of the first people to raise a wireless mast from the top of his home. He made his mom study it with him. And had she not learned the science of telegraphy with her son she would not have heard that first message. Robbie knew he would be called to war so he wanted a trick up his sleeve that would beat the enemy at their own game. So he learned Morse Code. The Germans were way more advance than the Americans were at the time. He told his mother “I am going to be needed in some particular capacity before we win this war. Some day when you are up here in this old room of mine, you are going to hear from your Robbie!”

Mother didn’t think it was possible. But she remembered what her son had told her. “What I felt to see my only son go to war is just what other mothers have felt and will feel as more and more and more young men are given to their country. But what I further I have to reveal is what every father and mother should know. And quite simply going to tell it.”

Robbie was assigned to an Engineers Corps and was second lieutenant. He qualified for wireless work, and going out on reconnaissance missions. One day she received a letter, she took it up to his room to read it. She was laughing and crying over the letter, “as woman will” when the wireless signaled “ATTENTION.” “I sprang to the key, and in a moment I had the message that Robbie had promised to find means to send me here. It is before me now as I made the translation from Morse code, adding only marks of punctuation; “Mother, be game. I am alive and loving you. But my body is with thousands of other mothers’ boys near Lens. Get this fact to others if you can. Its awful for us when you grieve, and we cant get in touch with you to tell you we are all right. This is a clumsy way. I’ll figure out something easier. I’m confused yet.””

“So news that my own son had been killed came to me from his own Intelligence by the methods we had used together in our experiments here in this very room. And so I am transcribing it, as he told me to do, for all to see who can be convinced of it’s sincerity. I have no explanations or proofs other than those given here: A man who was killed in battle and is yet alive, and able to communicate with the closest to him in sympathy, must make his own arguments. I have no knowledge of established physic laws or limitations, but I know what I know.”

1 month later Robbie’s mother was informed of her sons death. He was mowed down by German guns. Mother is convinced that the process of education among the worlds are the same.

“I am decidedly comforted to realize that Bob Bennett is Bob Bennett still. Loving, slangy, and familiar- but with a tremendously enlarged sphere of activities & absolute freedom from physical handicaps & the restricted periods of years.”

Mother says Bob dwells on the discovery that the mortal really puts on immortality. Bob finds it difficult to describe what the difference is in what we call the spirit world; ways of living, eating, drinking, and dressing. “As far as I can see” he says in one of his late letters, “this is a place where one can carry out his own inclinations: for instance, I am plugging away at the wireless as I wanted to do before I came. I live with a lot of other fellows in camp just now.”

Mother cannot see that he has reveled the secrets of his new surroundings. Mother says he does not seem to be withholding anything purposely; “but my curiosity in regard to who’s who in heaven and my questions concerning theological matters do not, as yet, receive attention. It may be that Higher Diplomacy withholds these things, Or it may be that we are not sufficiently enlightened to understand even these things with which we are continually confronted. I do not in the least understand the simplest phenomena of visible nature, but if Bob does not tell me how he gets his clothes, or intimate as to who does the work in far places, I think there must be something apocrypha about his message. And because of unbelief I fall back into the common attitude; a woman mourning for her son and cannot be comforted.”

“Faith has accomplished about every duty assigned to it, apparently, but the recognition of the free progress of the liberated soul. ”proof, proof,” we call. But there is no proof. And so some saturnine man builds a creed out of his own meager understanding. And he puts heaven high and hell low, and a weak and violent God in between them. If I had not the certainty that these communications I have are authentic, the literal messages from my son to me, I should still rather accept a pleasant faith on trust than an unpleasant one on the same condition.”

“One thing alone is certain,- the inevitableness of that change which most of us call “death” and poet-seers, like Wordsworth, call “transition.” The words are synonyms. My boy has brought me to a sense of the sane and simple naturalness with which our family life goes on when we have finished this classroom work and progressed to far places. I think there are analogies in nature at every hand: millions of little shelled creatures, the names of which I do not know, and as many more minute organisms undergo successive changes and developments that are not less marvelous than the emergence of the soul from the body.”

“Those who have experienced death have found it easy: particularly those who have gone out in a crash of battle or tremendous and sudden disasters. Bob speaks at firsthand of this. And from now on his letters must bear the consolation that he so wishes to extend: Blessed are they that mourn, for they shall be comforted.””

Letter #2 (by wireless)

There is no horror in death, he describes one minute he was in the thick of things and the next Lieutenant Wells was touching him on the shoulder and said, “Our command has crossed: Lets go.”

He noticed other soldiers looked queer: “I glaced down at myself. I was an olive drab. My uniform was not khaki: It seemed to be a fabric of some more tenous kind. I overtook Wells, “what in the deuce is the matter with me, with us all?” Wells said, “we are dead Bob.” Bob said he didn’t believe it because he felt fine. When they crossed through German barricades and in front of the howitzers, I realized our bodies that could be hurt has been shed on the red field.”

Lieutenant Wells is leading the way and knows more than they. He doesn’t know why this is.
It seems while they have no super natural power to divert or stop bullets, they comfort & reassure those who are about to join them.
There is much talk about the presence of one supposed to be the Savior among the dying. “I should not wonder if that were true. The capacity for believing is enlarged by experience.” Bob tells his mother he will let her know as he gains info.

Letter #3

“As I see this war, a curious understanding of it’s purpose and ultimate result is drawing on my mind.”

The soldiers are the pick of humanity.

Some soldiers are in a funk, homesick, and unhappy. These are mostly the young married men. If only they could get in touch with them they would know everything is ok.

He wants to get in his moms mind that he is not a ghost “but a being just as much as I ever was”

Letter # 4

Talks of worlds

Say as of now they are engaged in relief work.

He talks of the power of thought. “try and realize that thought is the one thing that is absolutely unlimited.”

He calls his regiment an “ambulance or Red Cross units working to relieve suffering among the wounded and to guide newcomers”

“Mother, the soul leaves the body as a boy jumps out of a school bus. That is, suddenly, and with joy. There is a period of confusion when a fellow needs a friend.”

Jack Wells has left. Bob is told, “we go to other departments of usefulness.

Nothing very different from what they knew before the change. “ we come, and come, and serve.”

They are not seen by mortals.

He believes the spirit absorbs moister. “I think out tenuous bodies are composed like clouds.” But is not sure. “but your boys heart is in the right place.”

They don’t know anything on the outcome of war

Some Teachers have shown up. They are dressed in white attire and come in pairs.

The Teachers talk about world history. They refer to past calamities in which the race has been practically obliterated and the earth reformed and repopulated.

“realize, the body is an exchangeable garment and does not count in the history of men.”

“There have been interminable number of races and nations lost in obscurity. As this present race must be moved on. I don’t know why civilizations is allowed to reach a high mark before it is wiped off the slate. But that has been the rule, and so the Creator must have a purpose.”

The teachers tell him that the earth is a preparatory planet.

The human race is marked for an advanced existence and is brought to as high a degree of perfection as may be necessary to bring up the average. “That is: The high degree of intelligence of the greater number lifts the lesser in the scale. We begin the new existence where we left of in the old. The more we have gained, the greater our advancement among far more favorable conditions.” He is not clear on this and hopes to get a better understanding of it.

He says dogs and horses are among them. doesn’t know if there stray. The dogs and horses look just the same. They go with them to help with their work. To comfort the boys. “When the boys come out they are simply delighted to see them.”

Jack Wells is back and in immediate command of Bobs company. He went to see his mother and is one happy boy. Jack mother is somewhere here in the spirit world. He was gone a long time. A messenger found him for her & got immediate leave to go. Jack will talk to Bob about these things latter.

“I told you that we are not given any power over bullets. That we can comfort but not save from what you call death. This is not quite the case, I find. Jack Wells directed me to stand by a junior Lieutenant today and impel him this way or that to avoid danger. In this way I discovered that my perceptions are much more sensitive than they were before I came out. I can estimate the speed and determine the course of shells. I stood by this fellow and nudged him here and there, kept him from being hurt. I asked Wells if that was an answer to prayers. Wells said, “No, the young chap is an inventor, and has a job ahead of him that’s of importance to the world.” An older man spoke up and Said: “Prayers are answered. Don’t make any mistake about that. But they are not answered according to material ways of looking at things.” I did not get his explanation well enough to venture to repeat it. I’ll learn more, probably, as I go on.”

Bob says they can hear the cries from mothers and fathers and wives and orphans. “ If you could just make them understand that there is no death…. That all is well beyond what has truly been called “the veil.” It is not more than that. It is not as much. A veil is a woven fabric more or less resistant.”

He is told some Teachers will soon appear to teach them.

Tells his mother he loves her greater than ever before. “ they are going to have all the time there is together”

The men play a lot of jokes on each other. He calls the men intelligences

Bob thinks the conditions there are “wholly spiritual.” “The physical body and its functions have been discharged. Only the emotions of the soul remain. I wonder if I can make that more plain. I surely want to be a reliable correspondent, and I want to show that while the human machine ceases with the body, all the fine raptures that made the happiness’s of the earth are with the spirit. I myself appear just as you last saw me. But I am doubtless clothed in that same cloudlike vapor that compasses my body. I am the same yet not the same, freed from the gross conditions that attend humanity and yet capable of love.”

He says he will have an opportunity to learn more and more about marriage.

One surprise to Bob is, no one has wings from what he has seen.

They can cover any number of miles without fatigue, “for I have not heard of any rest from labor being advocated.

Last couple nights he has been holding a sick boy in his arms.

He continues to hear about the presence of the Savior on the battle field. “I think this must be true. Anyway, the dying are certain that He has been there with them, and they are happy. They speak of his love.” He wants his mother to tell other mothers this.

Jack Wells tells him in great description what his visit is like with his mom.

He says the messengers are different from him. Will speak of this later

Jacks family was waiting for him. It was a happy reunion, He says all his family who passed through the experience of death looked just the same. He couldn’t see any differences. They seemed to eat and drink and live much as they did on earth.

Business is conducted in the same manner as here. He says Agriculture is brought to perfection.

Many inventors& chemist are at work to develop resources. “and as the different globes are intercommuniciable, the Earth gets the benefit of the discoveries. This figure is often used, and I guess it’s a good one. Consider the system of planets all incorporated in a final atmospheric envelope as so many rooms in a school: the separations are mental. A pupil can jump over any grade if he has the ability. Those who qualify on Earth can enter advance classes or conditions. The return or reincarnation of a spirit is a matter concerning which I am not informed. I know many return many times but don’t know how this is accomplished, or weather it is voluntary or an arbitrary law.

It is the business of those who are familiar with the law of the place to instruct others. Jacks mother and sister are teachers. Jacks sister Ruth Wells was killed in an automobile accident the day before she was to be married. Her lover died in a plane crash. Now they are incorporated in one form. “I do not understand this yet. I shall have to see the married to know what that means. But I am told that a man and a woman are really one. Each of a whole. When they are mates they are united. The matter of plural marriages is settled in this way. The real mates are brought together. The others finding complementary selves. It is a difficult subject. Better leave it out of the question until I get it in clearer shape. I do not know which dominates this duel personality. I talked it over with a group of fellows here- those who just come out- and none of us like the idea.

Still on escort duty. “we meet them and guide them across the invisible line."

“But some are confused or frightened. Particularly about the sorrow they let behind. Most feel perfectly fit when they come”

“Every tear tortures the dead.” “Know that they are loving their folks and anticipating a meeting. I must go”

The most important thing for us to consider is this; We are just as much alive as ever were, and the ties of love continue.
“Love is a dominating force.”

“But I am not yet far enough advanced to make any definite or authoritive statement. I only want to start this whole propaganda of a comfort on one sure thing: There is no death.”

A new thing he found out from his point of view. “There is little or no fear of death among the men who go into battle. The soul seems to remember, suddenly, that it may be about to repeat an interesting experience. The physical side of the soldier is dominated by the spiritual and carried on with a kind of thrilling joy. The meanest man sometimes surprises his comrades by exhibitions of courage. This is the reason. In this connection I must mention Cooper. You will remember that I wrote you about him when I enlisted: He seemed to be the one blot on our regimental ’scutcheon. A sniveling “willy boy” who was afraid of the dark. We all wondered how he stood the examiner’s gaff and was excepted. He had prayed, very likely, that he would be turned down. I happened to be near when the grenade fell in the trench and saw him grab it in his arms and scrambled out with it before it exploded. He saved a whole company. I went with him over the top and yelled, “Bully for you, Coop, old man!” Than the bomb blew away his mortality, and he saw me. We left the field together, and I took him back among the hills where the particular group of helpers headed by Jack Wells gave him the glad hand. He’s all right and a trump among us.”

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“I got your word about the difficulties you are meeting in conveying the information. Isn’t it curious that the human mind instinctively rejects the easiest answer to a problem? Do you recall how we laughed over that epitaph on a little white gravestone in New England: “Since so quickly I was done for, I wonder what I was begun For?”

Tells mother to get as much comfort across as she can, “but don’t and try and convince any one that you communicate with me. You would probably be carted off to a padded cell if you should tell all we shall talk about."

Wells says a new company is to relive them and they will “proceed to our destination.”

Cooper is in a funk about his mother. “she is frantic with grief,…She is like many Christians. She subscribes to a creed- but doesn’t believe it. If she only new Copper was living.” Bob says “to mourn is natural; but it really isn’t natural to be hopeless.”

Bobs mother gives Bob a hard time about Coopers grieving mother and Christians.

“Grief is mostly remorse for things done or left undone, and there is no chance to make up. Coop says he was rotten to his mother, and he has lately heard her crying that she had been harsh to him as a boy.”

Teachers prepare them and understand new conditions.

As far as Bob can make out, “ we are going to a very real world; a globe divided into parts of land and water; One of the near stars, maybe. I’ll find out later. We are, I am informed, much the same as we were before we came; except that we are no longer limited or hampered by the flesh and bone body we formerly occupied. We have been “raised spiritual bodies” just like the old book says. But it is the spirit that quickened, isn’t it? So there you are. We are still folks either- nobody dumb here, as far as I can learn.”

“To return to the worlds. I hear that we are to swing along in the old reliable solar system with the rest of you… It seems Mother Earth has all the time been wearing her right title. I have heard the Earth is a cradle, or the incubator, of the human race, and that other planets, all inter-communicable, are inhabited by those who have passed through the earth experience. There may be other Mother planets. I don’t know. But “His” kingdom ruleth over all.”

Hasn’t written lately. Been on job night an day. So many boys are coming out.

The world he is to go to “will be the country of the young in fact.”

The one thing that troubles the men who come here is the fact that the ones that love them are in agony.

He wants his mother to tell others to quit crying. “No man can stand the sight of tears, the sound of sounds. They feel it much worse here, because they can‘t get in touch to comfort. It‘s awful. ”

They are still capable of mental anguish, “that is the hell anguish. And every tear shed on earth falls on a heart here.”

Bob says there is no mystery about death.

He talks about communicating through the veil. Talks about electrical engineering and wireless telegraph development. “I hope it may be something that will lead to an understanding between the worlds.”

Mother asked who else is there besides the soldiers? “ In this particular group are only the men and woman assigned to field service. Mostly soldiers and Red Cross nurses. But we have encountered many woman on the battleground and among the wounded. These are mothers and wives who are on this side, and they look after their own. I am told that war has called all these spiritual forces into action. There is a mobilization here of the generation immediately connected with the troops,-fathers and mothers and near of kin,- to attend these boys and to bring them out."

Still in the earth envelopment. Jack Wells says he may be transferred to America. “I would give anything for a little fore knowledge now. But we have not progressed far enough to claim that.”

Their intuitions are sharper than before they came through the veil.

They think “America is covered by a net of German treachery and an unthought-of danger from within. There are cunning devils, in the flesh and out of it, conspiring against the United States. This young giant-land of ours must not be beaten.”

Talks more of conspiring men within our country. And we on our other side need to unite.

His only objective is to get the message of comfort out.

“I hope I can go on before long where I can get into working harness. I believe my mind is going to be clearer and quicker to act than formerly. I mean to work on devices to combat the German machines. If I succeed I’ll get in touch with Edison, If he is still in the game there. In the meantime I’ll attend to my job of easing the hurts made by guns. We have been taught to do that; otherwise there would be great suffering. I must go now”
Other companies have come to take their places on the field of battle. “ I am distinctly agitated. Do not know weather I shall be able to get in touch with you or not. Shall certainly try. Anyway, you will know that I am alright, and that some day we are going to be together again. Be game little sport and don’t cry. I’ll feel your tears if you do…… Anyways we are mother and son and-pals, always.”

“I am still in the atmosphere.”

Angels came to act as their escorts.

They stood in marching formation until word was given to start.

“We did not fly or float or anything like that. We just marched at a good rattling pace. The only thing strange about it was that we did not mind such natural obstacles as forest or rivers, but went right along through or over them. This was the case out of doors. But we did not pass through buildings or walls. At all times we looked for the openings or gates. I asked the angel about weather we had really bulk or weight. He answered me. But I didn’t understand well enough to make it clear, I am afraid. I think he meant that our bodies are heavier, or denser, than air. As these facts are made known to me I will let you know.”

They pass though a village that had been shelled and destroyed. Human bodies are everywhere. “ They looked like, and were, no more than so many abandoned shells or coverings. From this a point of view there is no more death than removal from one house to the next.”

“There were many men and woman from this side present among the ruins, and their special care seemed to be the children. Some angels literally carry the little ones on their bosoms.”

“I had supposed that we would leave the atmosphere of the earth by ascending into higher regions. But it seems that there are points of egress reached by defined channels. Ports of departure.”

Doesn’t know where one is located because they were recalled. “and the manner of recalling will interest you. The march was well under way when there was an order to “right about face” and we started back. “

How he got orders to return puzzled Bob. “there were no messengers or mechanical means like telephones or wireless. But it seemed we acquire the ability to hear anything addressed to us, personally, through any amount of space.”

They are still needed on battlefield. “For every boy that is hurt or terrified, there is a comforter. I wrote you that we hear, continually, that the Savior is often seen on the fields. I have not dared to look, sometimes, when I have felt, rather than seen, a strange soft light. I am not ready to look just now. But there is no doubt but that He moves among the soldiers. I am called away.”

Bob is sorry he cant answer more of his mothers questions. One reason is he is still not certain about them. Has not been taught yet concerning them. He also says,” there seems to be no means of communication concerning certain conditions. That is: when we get beyond the usual, we are beyond the common medium of language. The words we know are inadequate to express our revelations. Of course, we are really on almost the same footing as though I too were in the flesh.”

The most important matter to the boys here is to have their folks know that they are alive and well and filled with intense enthusiasm and ambition.
He asks his mother to keep this in mind when she reads the bible.

Bob hope as time goes on he will be better able to explain things to her.” after the manner of the observant traveler.- but now what you must learn is this; In this intermediate place which is neither wholly material nor wholly spiritual, we are busy and happy, or would be if it were not for the sobs and tears of our folks. Please do not give to sadness, mother. And for heaven’s sake(this is literally for heaven’s sake) beg the mourners to stop crying, and to cease wearing black cloths.

They have returned to their former quarters. The fighting is continual and many are coming out.

Bob says a boy came wandering across the field dazed. He was happy to see Bob. Charlie Spenser is dazed because “He is not reconciled to death because he is in love with a girl on earth. That seems to break up the philosophy. A man can leave everyone else with resigned calmness but the one girl he loves. He is in great mental agony.”

Teachers came to speak with Charlie Spenser.

Bob has to get what the teacher said clear in his mind before he can let his mom know what was said.

“The purport of it is simply this: Each created being is the half of another created being. When these two halves are brought together, it is a marriage. There may be many alliances in a person’s life. But only one marriage. That sounds like the affinity business we heard so much of at one time.”

Wishes his mom could have heard the Angel explain it. “Ill get down to his real meaning and write more. Bob believe there are no separation of those who are married and belong to each other. The messenger said the Spencer’s girl will come to him if she is his other half, and there are means for them to get married. He wanted to ask the teacher a few questions but didn’t have the courage. “Among them is weather one who has not been in love, as we say, on earth, can expect such experiences here. I will find out and let you know.”

“Life is continuous and souls go marching on. That’s the big truth. All other things are added unto it. Many things I say are not authoritative. But this thing is. Look at the bible, with these spectacles on, and see. As far as models of living, habits of angels, philosophies and opinions, my reports are likely to be as accurate as the average traveler‘s in an unfamiliar country. But I will correct any misstatement as I go on and learn more.”

Many of the wounded soldiers who are either close to dying or about to pass see them

“ I was easing a boy in my arms; but he was very young, and he wanted his mother. I could not comfort him. Some one beside me said: “I will take him.” I could not look up. But I knew Who it was.”

Tells mom not to elaborate anything.

Bob has not met any relatives.

“ A while ago I lifted up a wounded color-beaerer, and together we kept the flag from touching the ground.”

Doesn’t know when the war will end. “No one but God knows what the plan is being evolved from this chaos of worlds.”

I think communications would have been established and accepted as a perfectly natural thing if the human mind had not opposed so many obstacles. Humanity makes images to represent God, invents machinery to improve on his gift of perception, and refuses to credit voices and visions that are not man made. Better cut them obstacles out. Criticism does not land us anywhere..

Tells his mom, “I never loved you better than I do now. I know more about you, and about mothers everywhere.”

The woman among them work mainly with babies and the young.

They have the same sun and planets that light us.

Men and woman work in perfect harmony. Business occupies most of there time.

They dress and undress. “there is a general commissary who issues our clothes in military fashion.” does not know how they are obtained. “At first the stuff felt different from the material of the uniform I shed at Flanders. But now I do not notice anything peculiar about it. Maybe I am used to it, and have forgotten the old.”

Talks about people who commit suicide. “I do not gather from what I hear that curses afflict any poor soul that makes that mistake. But the self inflicted death disarranges and delays the plans that are being shaped for the individual. Every detail of life is worked out with a thoroughness only possible in spiritual geometry. A sudden break necessitates rebuilding the whole theory.”

“ No one is received here now except soldiers assigned to duty and men and woman of the Red Cross and military, and those who come from the war zone with death.”

“ A great thing has developed and it shows which way the winds of God blow. I have been assigned to pick up wireless from the enemy lines and transmit it to the Allies. I’ve worked the clock around on this. Every chance has been given the Hun to fight a fair fight. Now, it seems, the angels are arming against him."

There is no curse attached to anything, as far as I can find out. Laws are finely adjusted, and their principals are immutable, in the main.”

“There is nothing in all the worlds to handicap the big race the soul makes for perfection. We, here, are in the very beginning of it.”

A girl who’s parents believe in eternal life tells bob, “the immensity of the work ahead would appall her mother more than the threat of hell.” the girl continues; “She is so tired. You and your kind do not really know that the world is full of toil-tired woman. So tired they hate the thought of heaven unless it means rest. After all it is not for us to map heaven. I do not know what or where it is, or if there is such a state. We just want to tell what we do know. And that is, life is not snuffed out by war or any other calamity. The Hun cannot kill the soul of a woman or a tree or himself.”

Doesn’t want mother to take things as certainties unless he quotes his teachers, or Angels, but there is one big fact; “I am really, vitally alive. All others who have passed the change called death are alive and progressing toward fuller life. Harp on that string. Keep at it. Do not let your mind become discouraged or confused. Nothing that I can write you is of any importance compared to this. I am called away.”

Mother is being ridiculed trying to comfort those who have lost someone. But Bob wants her to continue.

“Think of the situation this way: A child (for instance) is screaming and sobbing in terrors of nightmare. His mother tries to waken him, to reassure him, and tell him that he is safe in her arms, against her breast, that all is right. But she cannot make him listen and understand. There you have it. It’s the same thing, exactly. Wake them up mother. Hush their sobs. The everlasting arms are not failing. All is well. “If it were not so I would have told you.””

Tells his mother not to argue. Says she cant convince anyone against their will. “Let them believe or deny. You are only a messenger.” Perhaps by the time this page is printed, the light-which-is-to-be will be shinning on earth. Undoubtedly the mystery that befogs us is likely to soon be lifted.”
Bob says: "every one will be stripped down to soul before this is all done."

He says when they do sleep they always waken refreshed.

Jacks mother and father live in a house and have food and water. “I think we absorb water, mostly. But when they pass springs, I stoop to drink.”

The instructor (angel) whom I told you about is getting Charlie Spenser into line. He has made it clear that there can be no permanent separation of two parts of a whole. It appears that every one is or will be married. The twain shall be one spirit. I judge from his statement that marriage is consummated here.” Still not exactly sure he understood correctly. Will share more as he learns.

Says they are punished for defiance of laws. “ That goes on in all parts of the spiritual worlds as well as the material worlds. But (and I want to go cautiously here because I am not sure that I have cinched the big Idea) Some of our worst old sins show up small in comparison with others that we have rather been proud of, and referred to as “faults” I cant say what they are. I suppose each fellow knows his own.

Coopers mother is still having a hard time. Bob says that he is alright. “he is more than all right. And he may serve to illustrate a point I indicated recently. You know how weak he used to be, and dissipated? Rather worthless and all that? Well, he is one of the most esteemed men here. Of course, he proved that he had courage when hopped out of the trench with that grenade and saved his company. I told you about it. But he has a quality, a kind of compassion for all men, that makes him tower above the rest of us. Its hard to take a measure of a man. There are so many bewildering standards. Its rather easier here.

“our use of terms “here” and “there” is likely misleading. At this stage, as I have explained, we are not separated from you; I mean we are not removed from the influences and conditions of the earth. I do not know how to search for expressions that will convey the truth simply to all who read these letters.” says his judgment is no good.

Bob is eagerly awaiting his departure from this environment. His curiosity has got the better of him. Says where ever he goes he will be able to communicate with his mother. “it seems that there are certain defined avenues of intercommunication. We do not fly up and into some other sphere. We travel by established channels. I am very anxious to find out just what this means, and I shall hope to let you know. There must be some reason why, of all the millions who have passed the lines, no one has defined the boundaries of the unseen worlds. We talk the matter over, here, and have about agreed that language becomes inadequate, or we enter upon untranslatable conditions. Than, too we may begin to count time by the thousand-year schedule. With the realization that you will soon be with us, we do not think to send you descriptions of what you are to see. One thing we must not lose sight of. This is the land of the living, and the loved ones are safe.”

“I picked up a kitten in my tent. An messenger who was passing told me, quietly, to put it down. There was something curious in his look I did not quite get.”

“Souls are being fused in these flames and purified. The bravery of men is applauded by the angels. I have seen them rush to welcome some little chap who has given his life to save others. That is the Christ quality-the highest form of love.

“No human power can stop the war. The fighting may go on until the generations now on earth are all transferred to the spiritual worlds. God does not intervene. We cannot know his purposes. We only know that those who die yet live.”

“A lot of fellows in my tent were talking about the peculiar agony of suspense that mothers have to bear. Jack Wells spoke of that night in Gethsemane when the his disciples kept falling asleep. But somewhere in that garden was one who did not sleep. Mary watched all the dark night. Mothers are like that now.”

Bob says as one progresses, “I find we are less inclined to criticize the efforts or condemn the failures of others.”

“I told you about my wireless work. It seems to us to indicate a change in the plan, a movement on the part of the Lord to intervene. We have all wondered why God did not sweep the Huns out of their wickedness. But humanity is , we suppose, allowed to exhaust itself before Divinity steps in. What are the words of the book? Except the Lord stretch forth His hand, all flesh will perish from the earth. Please look up the exact wording.”

Bob says the main difference for him is his “new keenness of perception”

Wells makes occasional visits to his family. “ I quote him, particularly, because you know him. When I ask him how it is out yonder, he says to wait and see for myself. This may illustrate the point I have been trying to make. I asked him about the marriage of his older sister and her husband. I heard that the married become incorporated in one body. That is not just as it seemed at first to be. The two who love and marry are one in spirit and act and think as one soul. But they are separable in form and able to pursue their independent ways."

Bob has formed a friendship with a girl named Ann. “She is as playful as a child, and I like her. But we are not mentally companionable. You remember a poem you liked be miss Colson, about laughter in heaven? Well, there is laughter here all right. I could not repeat a joke or any special thing that might be humorous that is said or done. But there is a kind of Joyousness that finds expressions in laughter.

“I have a delicate task here, mother. Cannot speak of it without higher authority. If I receive that, I know I can depend on your judgment and good taste. I have conferred with Wells, who is further advanced than I am. Wait alone for this.”

Bob says there are lot of wireless men there and are busy. “ we are immensely improved in our work. The German operators cannot see us around. But a man cannot be a wireless expert unless he has a finely developed sense. They feel us, all right. And they are afraid.”

“Mother, it is not a new thought, but it is true that all forms of life are created dual. We have spoken of the humans and spiritual only briefly, because I am crassly ignorant, even yet. But Nature is also two-sided; material and ethereal. Everything is duplicated, forest, stream, landscape. Does that fact not make my place of residence more tangible to you? I should have told you sooner if I had heard of it.

“I have permission to tell you that Cooper has, because of his understanding and compassion, been sent back home. His body, sustained by some life principal which I cannot explain, has been all this time in a reconstruction hospital back of the French Lines. You may see him with your own eyes. And you will know that any man who has crossed No Man’s Land, and returned, has a message to the world from God.”

The group is making preparations to get relived so they can move to their next destination. “I shall, perhaps enter into less translatable conditions. The common speech may be inadequate. That alone, may account for the futile messages transmitted through mediums. Still the spirit is free to travel, and is likely I may find a way to continue my letters to you and give you such information as may be permitted.”

“….. But the faculties of the creature made in God’s own image are for the most part undeveloped, inert. Think of this in very simple terms.. We are made in God’s own Image. Not faint resemblances of Him, But images…….We shall see each other, face to face, when we get rid of the acquired films that shut out the vision, and the obstacles that impede the ways of sound.”

“A good deal of the old temper seems to be sticking to me. I got in with some Boches to-day on the battle field. And felt a rush of hate and fury, impossible to describe. I rushed among the wounded like a mad man. But He was there, ministering. I hardly know how I came away.” “I talked to Wells about this later, in my tent. He said we must give up thinking of Christ as ours alone. He quoted His words as the mob howled around Him on Calvary: “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.””

“It may be that the peculiar conditions of our work here make my judgments rather one sided. I fancy in other locations, America for instance, the people who have come out must see things in altogether different lights. It should be perfectly simple to communicate with them. We are dwelling on the military exodus for the reasons I have outlined.”

I got your wire calling my attention to the scriptural statement that in Heaven there is neither marriage or giving in marriage, and I do not know what to say. It seemed (until you gave me this jolt) that the Bible bears out everything that I have been able to tell you. Perhaps the chronicaler got balled up in this particular quotation. For love and marriage are certainly in a bud and flower here. I can see this fact with my own eyes. Many things that I write to you I gather from others,”

Bob says there are false reports and reporters there. “Not makers of lies, so much, as natural dramatists who see all things in exaggerated and spectacular form. Than there are symbolists who write the revelations.”

“Any critic would have me on the hip, and they will be after you….And yet you will likely find a world more ready to listen, openly, to such a message than it has ever been before. Back in the human consciousness has always been a belief in spiritual things. The belief has mixed with the terror of the unknown and denied because of that fear. Now the hand of God draws His worlds so near that they can whisper to each other."

“Cooper will take his old life on earth, and his mother will have her son. But he will not be the same. None of those who go back will be the same. Angels, will walk the familiar streets. And listen to them”

“Dogs come and go freely, back and forth across the invisible line. I am told this is a fact. They do not need to leave their natural bodies to accociate with those who have died. They often follow their masters. Other Animals have not quite these priviledges, but after dissolution they appear here. I may not be clear. I often find a certain embarrassment in saying these things that I, myself, would have once called bunk. But I guess they are true, all right.”

“Try and remember, mother, dear, that I do not know much more than I did when I left you. That is, no wisdom has been given me. I am, however, quickened in my perceptions, and my natural bent is encouraged. I have every opportunity to learn. I suppose arbitrary rules must underlie this harmonious system of living. But they are not felt.”

“I want to suggest to you to keep these notes entirely apart form anything else I write you. Do not make a big book. Let it be only a few pages to hide the mourner’s sleeve. Call it a sleve book, If you want to. But in any case keep it free from subjects or speculations outside the main plan, which is: There is no death! And don’t let any attractive theory sidetrack you. The firing is continual and terrific. I must get on the job of guiding the boys through. They will come without fear”

“ You feel the need for more definite information about this existence before you go out to talk about immortality. But you have all that your untutored Bob can tell you, and a thousandfold more in John. Read the fourteen chapter again. It is all there: the whole plan of eternal life, Continuous life, I mean. There are no mansions here, that I see. But, as I have explained, we form one of many special brigades or divisions of soldiers, and are now in active relief service in the war Zone. We have tents and equipment: we talk and walk and choose our companions. We love or like, or avoid others, according to our own impulses. We look as we did in the flesh. It seems almost as though we had only slipped out of our skins, as snakes do. A natural process, familiar to simple people, but too simple to be considered by those butterfly hunters that try to net the soul. Please cut that out mother. You might leave the comparison to the snake, however; I think that holds some truth.”

“You have it clear? There is no death. Life goes on without handicap or hindrance. We are very busy. There is no talk of peace, here. I gather from what the Angels say that the war will go on until many more of the valiant have come through this valley, and have gone on to form a new democracy on another plane. I am reporting impressions, and have no authority for my conclusion, except the authority of my own Intelligence. Do not be terrorized even should an invasion of America be made. The easiest thing in life is death.”

Christ walks among the wounded continually. The dying see Him, and the hurt are healed by His hand. Many have told me, and several times I have felt Him near. Once, for a moment, I saw him, I told you.

Bob says;” It is almost certain that we are to be ordered on within a few hours time. Destination Unknown. But wherever it may be, I shall travel with eager curiosity. I shall surely tell you all I can.”

Bob says his goodbye to his mother. “Keep your strength and go up and down the waling places on earth, say and know: “Thy son liveth.” That’s your part”

Isn’t it foolish to try to convince any one of anything? What words are there to prove or disprove that life was and is and ever shall be? If one does not realize now naturally and without argument that he is an undying soul, he will come to realize it some time. Why hurry him?”
Bob is on the march. He talks about Love.

While marching they passed “through a land laid waste and yet triumphantly. I felt immensely surprised to see in all it’s beauty one great Cathedral that has been destroyed.” Bob is told that all such “buildings of prayer and song are spiritual and beyond vandal desecration. The bricks will be restored to conform to the imperishable idea. I do not want to get metaphtisical (in the bewildering way). I just want to say that I am improving in spiritual vision. When we started out before, you remember, I was only able to see the obvious; broken bodies of flesh and of stone. To-day I see the immortal Structures.”

“It is so simple, dear. Here I am on the open road that all humanity travels, going toward the enlarged opportunities that await me. I have been talking to the boy. He is not more than fourteen. But he fought his fight. Spenser has taken him under his wing. I don’t mean literally. None of us have wings.”

“Spenser is reconciled to wait for his girl to join him. There is so much to do that the time passes with much swiftness in and out of light and dark. We have the same natural divisions that you have. Why should this not be true? We are still on earth. As we pass, differences may arise that we are not conscious of, but so far as I am able I shall keep you informed”

We have reached a river of surpassing beauty. I have always felt, and I am more impressed than ever with the feeling now, that a river is more spiritual than any other expression of physical nature. It may be that this is our port of egress. It is. We have been commanded to halt. One desire seems to animate us all: that is to run down and swim in this shinning stream. We have thrown away our outer garments and are plunging in. Good bye for now. I am running down to the old mill-stream, tingling with Joy………..

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Thank you for sharing this. It's wonderful. Is this book still in print, I want to read it.

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I very much enjoyed reading this and it definitely resonated with me. I felt the spirit while reading and that is all I need, to know the truth of it. Thank you for sharing. I am really loving your posts immensely.

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Really cool.

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waking wrote:Thank you for sharing this. It's wonderful. Is this book still in print, I want to read it.
You are welcome! Glad you injoyed it! It was first printed in 1918. it has been out of print for over 80 years. But with in last year has been re-published by forgotten books. I can't find an online version, but you can find it on Amazon or forgotten books. You should not have to pay over $10. If for some reason you are having a hard time getting your hands on it let me know and I will mail one to you.

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KOMYU wrote:I very much enjoyed reading this and it definitely resonated with me. I felt the spirit while reading and that is all I need, to know the truth of it. Thank you for sharing. I am really loving your posts immensely.
Thank you so much! It resonated with me as well. I couldn't find the right words to describe it. Resonate was the word I was looking for. I must say my favorite part about the whole thing was right after he talks about mothers love for their children, Jack Wells tells the story about the disciples falling asleep at the Garden of Gethsemane and how there was someone else in the Garden that night who didn't fall asleep and it was Mary, his mother.

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SempiternalHarbinger wrote: I posted this song a couple weeks ago in a thread titled "What I am listening to" Just want to post it again because it because it happened to be one of my sister Kimberly favorite songs. She loved the Judy Garland version, but I think should would have loved this version as well. She also loved popcorn popping on the apricot tree.

What is the story behind this video? It is really lovely.

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semp., I found and ordered the book at amazon. It was about $8. Can't wait to read it. Thanks again for sharing with us

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Glad you found it. Let me know what you think. Also, the fist few pages are a little slow, but it will pick up big-time.

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Google offers the ebook for free. Looks to be a digital scan of the original pages...

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I bought the book and read it on Kindle. It is a short book. The most interesting parts of the book were included in this synopsis. There is little to gain by reading the book that you can't get here.

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Iv'e been so busy with moving and things that I only just read this now. Thanks for posting this. I found it extremely comforting. Right before my dad died I started reading this book called Heaven is for Real. I accidentally ran across it on my kindle and sense then have read lots of books about pbe's and nde's. This was quite different though and very interesting. I think I really needed to read this. I did not realize how much my tears and worries for my dad affect him on the other side. I dont want him to have to worry with me crying over any suffering he may have experienced when he died or my worries about where he is and what spirit prison is like. So I am going to make a great effort to just have peace and faith in knowing that he is well and learning on the other side. His sufferings if there were some dont matter now. :) Your story about your sister is amazing. What an amazing family you must have. I cant imagine living for ten years with a family member in a coma. Dealing with it for over a week with my dad seemed almost too much to bare. I am glad that your sister is happy and alive and probably with you all, all of the time. Thanks so much for this. I think it is just what I needed to finally let go and not worry.

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thebestsun...have you read, "Return From Tomorrow" ? It's the best NDE book I've read. It's short, and starts a little slow, but worth sticking with it. I felt the love of the Savior so strongly in those pages. :)

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That was actually the very FIRST NDE book I ever read. I read it a couple years ago but then I kind of forgot about the whole NDE thing until I read that book Heaven is for real. Thanks for the recommendation.

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Wouldn't it be great if deceased mothers could communicate with their living sons!

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Or deceased fathers could communicate with their daughters? :) Though my dad has communicated with me. Not long after his passing I was going through so much sorrow and greif and so one night I prayed that heavenly father might let me converse with him in a dream even if I were only aloud to remember part so I would know that I did get to talk with him. I had read many, many different things that suggest as we sleep the veil is thinner and it is the middle ground ...like a meeting place for connecting with others and learning revelations. So with that in mind I prayed. HF did answer my prayer that very night and I did speak with my Father. I wont relate the whole experience but it did happen and it was real. We both spoke together with the knowledge that he was on the other side of the veil. He told me a few things and I will never forget it. Ive had other dreams though where I spoke with my grandfather who has been gone for quite sometime. Just last night though I had a weird dream about my dad. I dont know that I would necessarily count this particular one as devine. But in my dream he came back to life after being on his death bed. And we hugged and cried and rejoiced together. It was wonderful and then I woke up. Second dream like that have had about him coming back to life.

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thebestsun wrote:Or deceased fathers could communicate with their daughters? :) Though my dad has communicated with me. Not long after his passing I was going through so much sorrow and greif and so one night I prayed that heavenly father might let me converse with him in a dream even if I were only aloud to remember part so I would know that I did get to talk with him. I had read many, many different things that suggest as we sleep the veil is thinner and it is the middle ground ...like a meeting place for connecting with others and learning revelations. So with that in mind I prayed. HF did answer my prayer that very night and I did speak with my Father. I wont relate the whole experience but it did happen and it was real. We both spoke together with the knowledge that he was on the other side of the veil. He told me a few things and I will never forget it. Ive had other dreams though where I spoke with my grandfather who has been gone for quite sometime. Just last night though I had a weird dream about my dad. I dont know that I would necessarily count this particular one as devine. But in my dream he came back to life after being on his death bed. And we hugged and cried and rejoiced together. It was wonderful and then I woke up. Second dream like that have had about him coming back to life.
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What is the story behind this video? It is really lovely.
Sorry about taking so long to answer this. I must have missed it. You will find this version of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" in the movie, Meet Joe Black starring Brad Pitt. IZ has one of the most incredible voices ever and is a hero of the Hawaiian people. Not only did he have a amazing voice but he was a great man! He was awake to our awful situation! He knew the truth about what our government has done to his people. God bless IZ and his family! To bad there are not more like him.

Throughout his life, Israel Kamakawiwoʻole was obese and at one point carried 757 pounds on his 6-foot-2-inch (1.88 m) frame. He endured several hospitalizations because of problems caused by his weight. At age 38, he died of weight-related respiratory illness. Kamakawiwoʻole is survived by his wife, Marlene Kamakawiwoʻole, and his daughter, Ceslie-Ann "Wehi".

The Hawaiʻi State Flag flew at half-mast on July 10, 1997, the day of Kamakawiwoʻole's funeral. His koa wood coffin lay in state at the Capitol building in Honolulu. He was the third person in Hawaiian history to be awarded this honor, and the only one who was not a government official. Approximately ten thousand people attended the funeral.

On September 20, 2003, hundreds paid tribute to Kamakawiwoʻole as a bronze bust of the revered singer was unveiled at the Waianae Neighborhood Community Center on Oʻahu. The singer's widow, Marlene Kamakawiwoʻole, and sculptor Jan-Michelle Sawyer were present for the dedication ceremony. (Wikki)

His brother Skippy died from complications of obesity, as had almost all of Israel's immediate family. He knew he was destined for a brief life. To de Mello, everything Israel sang and said became precious. So he instructed his engineers to keep the tape rolling for all the rehearsals, all the jokes.

Israel was a very funny man, he says. "And every session, I would keep him for an hour afterwards." Just tell me stories, he told Israel. "There was such great content in what this beautiful Hawaiian man was talking about — the trials and tribulations of his own life and his family's life."

"I was scared when I lost my mother, my father, my brother, my sister," Israel told de Mello. "I guess this is gonna sound kind of weird, but I'm not scared for myself for dying. Because I believe all these places are temporary. This is just one shell. Because we Hawaiians live in both worlds. It's in our veins. When our time come, don't cry for me. Don't cry for me. Plant a tree in the middle ... where they play soccer," he laughs. "Kind of small, then I'll grow big."

Here is another great song of his called E Ala E, which means awake and arise.



Lyrics of E Ala E,

We, the voices behind the face,
Of the Hawaiian nation, the Hawaiian race
Rise for justice the day has come
For all our people to stand as one,

Chorus
E Ala E, `e , `e , `e , `e ,
E Ala E, `e , `e , `e ,
E huli i ka ho'i i ka p kini alamihi
Gone are the days of the alamihi ways
E kiko i ka piko o ka mana o ka po'e
The power of the people is the piko
`O ka piko ke aloha o ka ' ina, o ka ' ina

We the warriors born to live
On what the land and sea can give
Defend our birthright to be free
Give our children liberty,

"E Ala E!" ... Arise! Wake up, Americans. It's time - indeed, it's past time - to put this country back on track.

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Interesting. I've had experiences with communication from those on the other side, but we didn't use telegraph sounds.

That Hawaiian has a beautiful voice.

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