LDS Freedom Forum

NoGreaterLove wrote:

Zkulptor wrote:Given the fact Elder Scott mentioned that something will happen within the next 2 years ( this was said a few months back) that will make many come to our church for refuge... shouldn't they say something a bit more direct? nothing fancy, or sensational... but like " Brethren, we must prepare in spirit, body and mind, the time is now, you must get your houses in order, or you will not be able to draw on the protection of heaven" or something? What I am saying is, most of the people in my ward and stake, have got NO clue... I mean no clue at all.... some of them bless people and annoint them via the phone... no joke, I was made aware of this just this very week... so see what I am saying?
A lot of us have a hard time listening to the spirit even when we are good people and try to keep the commandments... Elder Scott once told us during a Stake Conference " you are good people, but Satan has deceived you by making you change your priorities"...... so what of those that I am sure are in the majority that have not learned to use their ears, or eyes to see? I mean, shouldn't they be given a heads up in a more direct way? otherwise I fear they will be caught off guard... even if people like me keep telling them to prepare..some people look at me like I am nuts... and trust me I am not going around shouting this, but whenever there's an opportunity and the spirit makes feel I must warn people I do....

I have been saying this for a while... everything points to the final events of the sixth and beginning of the 7th seal ( whatever stage we are currently at) the Lord may be only a few decades away, and the exact date is not really my concern.. I look forward to that day... what concerns me is the events preceding the second coming.... I am not very learned in the ways of The Lord like most of you... but the spirit has taught me enough to see the signs of the times... I mean, I can see what is happening every day... I am concerned for my friends, neighbors, family and church members.... I am not afraid of dying.... I am not afraid to suffer worse than the early saints... but I am afraid I may not be strong enough when I see others suffering, or to see their hearts fail... there is a soothing feeling that comes to those that are prepared... I just wish we could all have that little cushion before the impact.... any thoughts?

I am learning to love your good heart my friend!

Songbird wrote:I just want to remind you all that Elder M Russell Ballard said at a Stake Conference not less than a month ago that the Saints will NOT be "hearing" anything "new" until they start living the things that they have been told already.

Songbird wrote:I just want to remind you all that Elder M Russell Ballard said at a Stake Conference not less than a month ago that the Saints will NOT be "hearing" anything "new" until they start living the things that they have been told already.

pjbrownie wrote:

Songbird wrote:I just want to remind you all that Elder M Russell Ballard said at a Stake Conference not less than a month ago that the Saints will NOT be "hearing" anything "new" until they start living the things that they have been told already.

That could mean anything new as far as new truths or doctrine. Doesn't mean that they won't step up the warnings and the woes. We're not going to be given forever to get it right. In many ways, sometimes I think it's unfair to expect us to all do so in this Babylonian environment that gets worse and worse every day. Babylon needs to go if we are start living the way we should.

pritchet1 wrote:The closing remarks from President Henry B. Eyring from the Saturday morning session was rather telling regarding the Law of Consecration and the version we practice today as "Church Welfare".

mattctr wrote:Bump... T-Minus one hour and counting... I am so excited! I explained my excitement to one of my roommates by comparing it to how he feels about the Superbowl... General Conference is my SUPERBOWL!

pritchet1 wrote:The closing remarks from President Henry B. Eyring from the Saturday morning session was rather telling regarding the Law of Consecration and the version we practice today as "Church Welfare".

Zkulptor wrote:...the spirit has taught me enough to see the signs of the times... I mean, I can see what is happening every day... I am concerned for my friends, neighbors, family and church members.... I am not afraid of dying.... I am not afraid to suffer worse than the early saints... but I am afraid I may not be strong enough when I see others suffering, or to see their hearts fail... there is a soothing feeling that comes to those that are prepared... I just wish we could all have that little cushion before the impact.... any thoughts?

kfb wrote:

Zkulptor wrote:Given the fact Elder Scott mentioned that something will happen within the next 2 years ( this was said a few months back)

Do you have a source for Elder Scott's talk? Certainly something WILL happen in the next two years... I will get out of bed put on my pants and go to work as usual... keep going to church, paying the mortgage, go to basketball and kids soccer games, family reunions, yard work, church service, and regular challenges... We need to stop fantasizing about the freakin "Call Out".

Elias Returns wrote:WOW!......this is an exciting post. We had Elder Kim B. Clark from BYU-Idaho preside over our last Stake Conference and he had stated a certain conversation that he had 6 months prior with Elder Scott at dinner. Elder Scott had stated " that the Brethren of the Church is very concerned, because we as a Church do not have enough teachers (missionaries) available to help teach the massive amount of new members that are going to be coming into the Church in the next couple of years. We know that we are close to the Saviors return, and that the times ahead will get much, much worse. And because of what is coming, we will see millions coming into the Church for help, and as a place of refuge from what is coming. This will happen very soon, and we need to get our Brothers and Sisters prepared to help."

This was a word for word account given by Elder Clark, as written down from both myself and my wife who both attended, together, this Stake Conference.- (Disclaimer Added to protect our good name)

I believe that this will happen after AOA, because that is when as we are counseled through modern revelation and direction by the GA's that the cleansing in His own House will start as well as the cleansing of America, such as wars, scourges, food shortage, economic collapse and such. The time I feel is very close, and no we won't know when AOA takes place, but I have a feeling we will right afterwards.

pjbrownie wrote:
Babylon needs to go if we are start living the way we should.

Ezekiel 30¶Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the Lord.

31And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they ahear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their bmouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their ccovetousness.

32And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

33And awhen this cometh to pass, (lo, it will come,) then shall they know that a prophet hath been among them.

Janadele wrote:There is too much expectation and pressure on singles to marry. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.

Mahonri wrote:

Janadele wrote:There is too much expectation and pressure on singles to marry. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.

ya, obeying the commandments leads to divorce 8-|

You tell us we should vote for Romney because a leader in the Church does, then a leader in the Church teaches the importance of marriage and you backbite and say they are wrong ) oh the irony

Mahonri wrote:

Janadele wrote:There is too much expectation and pressure on singles to marry. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.

ya, obeying the commandments leads to divorce 8-|

Mahonri wrote:Sorry katmr, I think you missed my sarcasm.

Mahonri wrote:Sorry katmr, I think you missed my sarcasm.

Clearly, both parties obeying the commandments does NOT lead to divorce.

Mahonri wrote:

Janadele wrote:There is too much expectation and pressure on singles to marry. No wonder the divorce rate is so high.

You tell us we should vote for Romney because a leader in the Church does, then a leader in the Church teaches the importance of marriage and you backbite and say they are wrong ) oh the irony