Conspiracy or coincidence -- NWO....

[Fiannan]

I know that I have brought up the population control thing before, but if it is indeed the #1 goal of the NWO then shouldn't that get more attention from those trying to expose their agenda? Please consider the following things Mormon people gripe about and decide if these issues are a factor of coincidence or deliberate planning:

1) Deteriorating families -- divorce, less ties to traditional values and cultural norms, etc.

Well, it is interesting that the family home evening program has its roots in statements made by the Church in the early 1960s warning that a war was about to be waged against families and we needed to strengthen our connections to each other. Anyone who studies the population control movement and the NWO will find that the mid-1960s was when an aggressive campaign was begun to make population control the central theme to government policy. Families tend to make babies -- destroy or fragment the family and you reduce birthrates. I have actually heard young women who would like to have three or four kids say that they would likely only take a chance on having two since they figured their marriage would probably not last until their last child reached 18, so the idea of being a single mother with 4 kids is just too scare for them. Remember -- this is women not yet married.

2) Attacks on traditional religion.

Interesting that conservative religions are generally associated with big families (orthodox Jews, conservative Catholics, devout Mormons). If you watch any media from before the 1960s religion is generally treated with a lot of respect, yet look today...any time you have a Catholic priest in a movie you expect that it will be revealed he is a secret Satanist or child molester. Mormons are also mocked -- and will be more so due to the heavy influence of homosexuals in Hollywood. Fundamentalist Protestants also take a beating. Could attacks on religion (no school prayers anymore, etc.) be part of the anti-natal conspiracy?

3) Homosexuality, childlessness, staying single as a choice, etc. becoming mainstream.

Again, the late 1960s and early 1970s saw abortion legalized, the birth of the homosexual rights movement, radical feminism, the legalization of pornography and people seeing marriage and family as an option rather than almost a duty. Franklin Roosevelt once said that in politics nothing happens by chance. Well? Is homosexuality promoted today, especially within the female population, as a means to reduce birth rates?

So if the ruling elite look at a woman choosing to remain childless as the ultimate success story, think about how that affects the messages we see in movies, what our kids are taught, and what the norms of society ultimately are heading for. Population control is dealt with twice in the Bible -- once in regards to what the Egyptians did to the Hebrews in Exodus 1 and then the stages of a society heading towards having the Spirit taken away from it in Romans 1. One should read both these chapters and evaluate where this society is heading.

[lundbaek]

I had not considered population control as the Nr. 1 goal of the NWO elite, although it could be, as I consider who I believe is the ultimate controller of the NWO conspiracy. I guess I am more focused on the destruction of America as a nation as the Nr. 1 goal.

[Fiannan]

I had not considered population control as the Nr. 1 goal of the NWO elite, although it could be, as I consider who I believe is the ultimate controller of the NWO conspiracy. I guess I am more focused on the destruction of America as a nation as the Nr. 1 goal.

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The same mind-set that looks at other nations as competitors for resources also looks upon their own citizens as "human resources" that can either be optimized, or may present a danger in the future.

[sbsion]

in this life where "Satan rules and reigns".........it's a conspiracy

[Fiannan]

in this life where "Satan rules and reigns".........it's a conspiracy

True, but just like the concept that we have to be ambassadors for God to bring truth and light to the people we encounter, if promoting an anti-life philosophy is of Satan, then at least we need to make people aware of this. I believe there are many LDS people who in word or deed have been caught up in this worldly concept and will reap the consequences. Oh, and if enough LDS people decide to imitate the "ideal" family of the world then that will affect us as a body as well.

Again, I find it strange to witness LDS people on some forums, or on Face-book, encourage each other in regards to birth control.

[1984Orwellherenow]

Dudettes and Dudes,

Who has access to the NWO playbook? This population control stuff makes no sense to me personally. Why would the Satan man want to destroy the population? I thought the big red feller is all about conversion, man. He wants populations to grow so he has more convertin' the converts opportunities, ya know? If the OWNWO wanted you all dead then they'd really start messing up the vaccines instead of making the good stuff that has boomed the population to over 6 billion. They'd put some bad stuff in them and start leaking stories of the horrors. Then, when you all stop taking the vaccinations and start falling over plumb dead, they start all that laughing and cigar smoking as they get what they want. They aren't doing any of that stuff. So why the stories about population control?

[durangout]

Dudettes and Dudes,

Who has access to the NWO playbook? This population control stuff makes no sense to me personally. Why would the Satan man want to destroy the population? I thought the big red feller is all about conversion, man. He wants populations to grow so he has more convertin' the converts opportunities, ya know? If the OWNWO wanted you all dead then they'd really start messing up the vaccines instead of making the good stuff that has boomed the population to over 6 billion. They'd put some bad stuff in them and start leaking stories of the horrors. Then, when you all stop taking the vaccinations and start falling over plumb dead, they start all that laughing and cigar smoking as they get what they want. They aren't doing any of that stuff. So why the stories about population control?

Of course it makes no sense (IMHO) but the conspiratorialists contingent doesnt' see it that way. IMO it makes as much sense that TPTB WANT total systemic collapse. Again many think I am not "awake".

[Jason]

Dudettes and Dudes,

Who has access to the NWO playbook? This population control stuff makes no sense to me personally. Why would the Satan man want to destroy the population? I thought the big red feller is all about conversion, man. He wants populations to grow so he has more convertin' the converts opportunities, ya know? If the OWNWO wanted you all dead then they'd really start messing up the vaccines instead of making the good stuff that has boomed the population to over 6 billion. They'd put some bad stuff in them and start leaking stories of the horrors. Then, when you all stop taking the vaccinations and start falling over plumb dead, they start all that laughing and cigar smoking as they get what they want. They aren't doing any of that stuff. So why the stories about population control?

Destruction of anything God has created is the agenda....destruction of the planet, destruction of the people, destruction of the souls. Population control fits within that realm....

[1984Orwellherenow]

Dudettes and Dudes,

Who has access to the NWO playbook? This population control stuff makes no sense to me personally. Why would the Satan man want to destroy the population? I thought the big red feller is all about conversion, man. He wants populations to grow so he has more convertin' the converts opportunities, ya know? If the OWNWO wanted you all dead then they'd really start messing up the vaccines instead of making the good stuff that has boomed the population to over 6 billion. They'd put some bad stuff in them and start leaking stories of the horrors. Then, when you all stop taking the vaccinations and start falling over plumb dead, they start all that laughing and cigar smoking as they get what they want. They aren't doing any of that stuff. So why the stories about population control?

Of course it makes no sense (IMHO) but the conspiratorialists contingent doesnt' see it that way. IMO it makes as much sense that TPTB WANT total systemic collapse. Again many think I am not "awake".

=))

You are possibly my favorite poster already! Wake up! After all, there is .03 one hundredths of the LDS population who are, and you should definitely listen to them... to be continued.

[sbsion]

tellistialites learn the "hardway", and sometimes in the "other place", alas, the purpose of life is to figure out how you are going to govern in the next life, when you have worlds of your own..........He'll be there...right?

[sbsion]

tellistialites learn the "hardway", and sometimes in the "other place", alas, the purpose of life is to figure out how you are going to govern in the next life, when you have worlds of your own..........He'll be there...right?

[sbsion]

tellistialites learn the "hardway", and sometimes in the "other place", alas, the purpose of life is to figure out how you are going to govern in the next life, when you have worlds of your own..........He'll be there...right?

[Fiannan]

Let's see, where has population control been used in the scriptures...Exodus chapter 1 perhaps? Oh, and how about 'ol King Herad?

Then we can read what happens to a society when it de-evolves into unbelief in Romans 1. Many people cite that chapter to condemn homosexuality, but a careful reading shows that homosexuality in males and females is described as a symptom of a society that turns from God and family, not the cause of that. Homosexuality is one of the stages of women and men giving up the natural functions of their bodies.

Satan rejoices when people break the line of family and give up the opportunity to bring forth posterity. I also wonder...while only a fragment of the line of Ephraim has adopted the Gospel in full (the restored church), while most seems to ignore the general beliefs in the Gospel (basic Christianity) this line of people is given the responsibility to spread the message to the world. Kinda ironic that this group (Europeans it seems) is the one that most focus of population control and reduction has been focused on since the mid-1960s.

[Squally]

Dudettes and Dudes,
.....This population control stuff makes no sense to me personally. Why would the Satan man want to destroy the population?

Perhaps just do a search on lds.org on population control, abortion, and homosexuality and see what the prophets say about it and satan......

[mes5464]

Of course it makes no sense (IMHO) but the conspiratorialists contingent doesnt' see it that way. IMO it makes as much sense that TPTB WANT total systemic collapse. Again many think I am not "awake".

All of the answers are in the scriptures.

"Be fruitful and multiply" is a commandment, so get people to stop keeping that commandment.
"Bring spirits to the earth to receive bodies" is a goal of Heavenly Father, so Satan wants to impede that goal.
"The BoM is a likeness for our day" is a true statement, so Satan wants to destroy all of humanity like he did the Nephites, Mulikites, and Jaredites.

This really stretches into so many other aspects of the plan of the NWO (in other words Satan's plan).

"Missionaries teach all the world", so Satan creates fear of travel and the TSA to eventually make travel near impossible. I don't want my daughters, as sister missionaries, to have to choose between taking nude pictures or getting groped, just to travel to their mission area.

"Be self reliant. Grow food and livestock", so Satan passes S510 Food Modernization and Safety Act (with the help of Hatch and Reed!) so that members will become outlaws for following the council of the prophets.

"Have family home evening on Monday nights", Satan starts Monday night football.

I think I should sit down and make a complete list for myself. This has been a useful exercise for me.

[mes5464]

Interestingly, I just found this other essay just posted.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/ ... en_go.html

[1984Orwellherenow]

Of course it makes no sense (IMHO) but the conspiratorialists contingent doesnt' see it that way. IMO it makes as much sense that TPTB WANT total systemic collapse. Again many think I am not "awake".

All of the answers are in the scriptures.

"Be fruitful and multiply" is a commandment, so get people to stop keeping that commandment.
"Bring spirits to the earth to receive bodies" is a goal of Heavenly Father, so Satan wants to impede that goal.
"The BoM is a likeness for our day" is a true statement, so Satan wants to destroy all of humanity like he did the Nephites, Mulikites, and Jaredites.

This really stretches into so many other aspects of the plan of the NWO (in other words Satan's plan).

"Missionaries teach all the world", so Satan creates fear of travel and the TSA to eventually make travel near impossible. I don't want my daughters, as sister missionaries, to have to choose between taking nude pictures or getting groped, just to travel to their mission area.

"Be self reliant. Grow food and livestock", so Satan passes S510 Food Modernization and Safety Act (with the help of Hatch and Reed!) so that members will become outlaws for following the council of the prophets.

"Have family home evening on Monday nights", Satan starts Monday night football.

I think I should sit down and make a complete list for myself. This has been a useful exercise for me.

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[Fiannan]

mes5464, excellent and timely article:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/ ... en_go.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I might suggest people forward this to every LDS person they know. Never can tell who you might enlighten and how many future leaders in the Church that person might give birth to.

I doubt this gets discussed by many BYU professors. Last one I saw a video of was promoting the idea that homosexuality and lesbianism was determined by genetics.

[John Locke]

Of course it makes no sense (IMHO) but the conspiratorialists contingent doesnt' see it that way. IMO it makes as much sense that TPTB WANT total systemic collapse. Again many think I am not "awake".

All of the answers are in the scriptures.

"Be fruitful and multiply" is a commandment, so get people to stop keeping that commandment.
"Bring spirits to the earth to receive bodies" is a goal of Heavenly Father, so Satan wants to impede that goal.
"The BoM is a likeness for our day" is a true statement, so Satan wants to destroy all of humanity like he did the Nephites, Mulikites, and Jaredites.

This really stretches into so many other aspects of the plan of the NWO (in other words Satan's plan).

"Missionaries teach all the world", so Satan creates fear of travel and the TSA to eventually make travel near impossible. I don't want my daughters, as sister missionaries, to have to choose between taking nude pictures or getting groped, just to travel to their mission area.

"Be self reliant. Grow food and livestock", so Satan passes S510 Food Modernization and Safety Act (with the help of Hatch and Reed!) so that members will become outlaws for following the council of the prophets.

"Have family home evening on Monday nights", Satan starts Monday night football.

I think I should sit down and make a complete list for myself. This has been a useful exercise for me.

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LOL! despite your SoCal lingo I freaking love your posts. So funny, Stir the pot sir I applaud you we need more people disagreeing here :ymapplause:

[Squally]

"So funny, Stir the pot sir I applaud you we need more people disagreeing here."

For a second there I thought you were quoting satan. :ymdevil:

[edzachary]

mes5464, excellent and timely article:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/03/ ... en_go.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I might suggest people forward this to every LDS person they know. Never can tell who you might enlighten and how many future leaders in the Church that person might give birth to.

I doubt this gets discussed by many BYU professors. Last one I saw a video of was promoting the idea that homosexuality and lesbianism was determined by genetics.

EXCELLENT article. I totally agree with your assessment. Clearly the thumbprint of Satan is all over the falling fertility rates. Gonna have to reference this one.

[Jason]

"So funny, Stir the pot sir I applaud you we need more people disagreeing here."

For a second there I thought you were quoting satan. :ymdevil:

He did....he did.....to quote Tweety! Something about contention.....

[InfoWarrior82]

Dudettes and Dudes,

Who has access to the NWO playbook? This population control stuff makes no sense to me personally. Why would the Satan man want to destroy the population? I thought the big red feller is all about conversion, man. He wants populations to grow so he has more convertin' the converts opportunities, ya know? If the OWNWO wanted you all dead then they'd really start messing up the vaccines instead of making the good stuff that has boomed the population to over 6 billion. They'd put some bad stuff in them and start leaking stories of the horrors. Then, when you all stop taking the vaccinations and start falling over plumb dead, they start all that laughing and cigar smoking as they get what they want. They aren't doing any of that stuff. So why the stories about population control?

Georgia Guidestones.

[davedan]

Doesn't Christ say if he did not hasten the day of his coming there would be no flesh left upon the Earth. Sounds like depopulation to me.

[John Locke]

"So funny, Stir the pot sir I applaud you we need more people disagreeing here."

For a second there I thought you were quoting satan. :ymdevil:

He did....he did.....to quote Tweety! Something about contention.....

Yes because wanting a different opinion to be heard other than what another members calls the "echo chamber" is so satanic lol your sensationalism never ceases to amaze :ymcowboy: