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"President McKay has stated that the Supreme Court is leading this Christian nation down the road to atheism. I believe the court is also leading us down the road to anarchy and atheistic communism." Ezra Taft Benson

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The more I look at those promoting extreme libertarianism the more similarities I see they have with Communists.

You look at the Mormon communist blog (ironically not started by a Mormon) and the mormon anarchy blog and much of the writings of extreme libertarians, it is like they are all written and ran by the same group think.

I had the same feeling as I read the LewRockwell blog , Mahonri. I think they are agent's provacateur using the profound love of freedom against those who are taken in by them.

I felt the spirit leave the more I read the stuff on his blog.

I struggle with Ron Paul because of his close ties to Lew.

There was one article on his blog that I remember reading in which he addressed your concern. He said that they are similar, but with different desired end results.

I don't think it is the same article, but here is one that clarifies this point of view very nicely.

In fact, a search of his blog site of "anarcho" yields 12 pages of results.

I realize that my response wasn't very clear. I see Lew Rockwell as the poster boy for anarchist libertarianism. He immediately came to mind when I read your post.

Lew says there are several wings of anarchist thought. Two are anarcho-capitalist and anarcho-communist.

I say they are all driven by Satan, as the Lord doesn't advocate anarchy, as his house is a house of order.

loquaciousmomma wrote:I realize that my response wasn't very clear. I see Lew Rockwell as the poster boy for anarchist libertarianism. He immediately came to mind when I read your post.

Lew says there are several wings of anarchist thought. Two are anarcho-capitalist and anarcho-communist.

I say they are all driven by Satan, as the Lord doesn't advocate anarchy, as his house is a house of order.

I agree that anarchy is not in the Lord's plan. I started reading alot of the Libertarian stuff and found some of it pointing to anarchy. Didn't sound or feel right at all. After all, Jesus Christ will utlimately be at the head of world government after the Second Coming:

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder... 2 Nephi 19:6

I would not quite go so far as to say they are all driven by Satan; perhaps some but not all.

If we believe D&C 134, we believe that governments were instituted of God for the benefit of man.

But that government should clearly be properly limited to be such is clear by the rest of the section as well.

YEP atheism is communism read the book Pawns in the Game. They use atheism coupled with communism to create anarchy which in turn can be used to foment revolution. The revolution tears down the existing government and they come in and install their new government.

Examples, England, Russian, Germany, Spain and now American.

I have always thought that you should be careful about who you allow to lead you into a revolution, because most likely that is going to be who's in charge when the revolution is over. Fortunately for us this nations revolution was led by righteous men.

Silas wrote:I have always thought that you should be careful about who you allow to lead you into a revolution, because most likely that is going to be who's in charge when the revolution is over. Fortunately for us this nations revolution was led by righteous men.

Agreed. Too bad so many people today are being brainwashed into believing that the Founding Fathers were nothing more than snotty, slaveholders who wore wigs. Don't they see that the American Revolution is one of the very few in the world that actually led the country (arguably the world) to a higher sphere? The smear campaign against the Founders makes me sick.

Lots of good thoughts on this thread.

Not many people here on this board are going to be ensnared by the Socialist/Communist/Crony Capitalist lies that are leading much of this country carefully down to Hell.

But we must also resist the temptation to embrace the concept that the "Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend". Radical Libertarianism can be as dangerous as Socialism.

Our Church leaders have often cautioned us that Homosexuals and radical feminism are among the most dangerous forces we have to watch out for. Gambling, Prostitution, Drugs and other vices can as easily destroy us as income redistrubution.

I can understand arguments debating whether such things should be FEDERAL issues or handled more by states, but the idea that anything consenting adults do that does not directly assault me or pick my pocket should be ok is destructive.

Also, I recently listend to an old talk by Ezra Taft Benson in which he states the the Monroe Doctrine was from God. So while we need to head Geoge Washington's counsel to "Avoid foreign conflicts" we cannot completely retreat to within our own boarders and have let barbarians run roughshod over the entire rest of the earth.

Regards,


George Clay