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Interesting take?

If you can buy the fact that Alex isn't working an angle himself....

I think Alex is working an angle, but I trust him ten times more than Beck.

I'm sorry, I have tried to give Glenn a fair shake, but everything Alex says here rings true. Beck comes across as an actor who is saying a lot of the right things now to build credibility so he can drive the buss off a cliff when it matters. I hope I am wrong and will withhold judgement for now - but will be watching him closely going into the 2012 election cycle.

I believe that Alex is the real deal, albeit like you say he definitely is playing his own game.

Original_Intent wrote:I think Alex is working an angle, but I trust him ten times more than Beck.

I'm sorry, I have tried to give Glenn a fair shake, but everything Alex says here rings true. Beck comes across as an actor who is saying a lot of the right things now to build credibility so he can drive the buss off a cliff when it matters. I hope I am wrong and will withhold judgement for now - but will be watching him closely going into the 2012 election cycle.

I believe that Alex is the real deal, albeit like you say he definitely is playing his own game.

Agree with you there! GB is definitely not on my valentines list....

Mummy wrote:

Original_Intent wrote:I think Alex is working an angle, but I trust him ten times more than Beck.

I'm sorry, I have tried to give Glenn a fair shake, but everything Alex says here rings true. Beck comes across as an actor who is saying a lot of the right things now to build credibility so he can drive the buss off a cliff when it matters. I hope I am wrong and will withhold judgement for now - but will be watching him closely going into the 2012 election cycle.

I believe that Alex is the real deal, albeit like you say he definitely is playing his own game.

Agree with you there! GB is definitely not on my valentines list....

Not on mine either. I heard a lot of spin about how he can't stand Glenn Beck, and I heard how he thinks GB is adding spin and lies to the stories he steals from AJ, but he gives no clear definitive reasons to say why he hates him so much other than he is stealing all his hard work. I could not hear any specifics. I heard gereralities, but that was about it. For the record, I like him too, and I can't stand GB. My feelings on that is that he gives being LDS a bad name by his atrocious behavior on the radio. I don't watch him on TV so I don't know about that.

Songbird wrote:

Mummy wrote:

Original_Intent wrote:I think Alex is working an angle, but I trust him ten times more than Beck.

I'm sorry, I have tried to give Glenn a fair shake, but everything Alex says here rings true. Beck comes across as an actor who is saying a lot of the right things now to build credibility so he can drive the buss off a cliff when it matters. I hope I am wrong and will withhold judgement for now - but will be watching him closely going into the 2012 election cycle.

I believe that Alex is the real deal, albeit like you say he definitely is playing his own game.

Agree with you there! GB is definitely not on my valentines list....

Not on mine either. I heard a lot of spin about how he can't stand Glenn Beck, and I heard how he thinks GB is adding spin and lies to the stories he steals from AJ, but he gives no clear definitive reasons to say why he hates him so much other than he is stealing all his hard work. I could not hear any specifics. I heard gereralities, but that was about it. For the record, I like him too, and I can't stand GB. My feelings on that is that he gives being LDS a bad name by his atrocious behavior on the radio. I don't watch him on TV so I don't know about that.

No definitive reasons? Taking truth and distorting it (leaving out facts, twisting facts, etc) is enough reason to dislike someone. I dunno, I can't see any angle AJ is playing except letting people know Glenn Beck isn't someone you should be looking to for the whole truth. Alex Jones does what he's been doing for years with no mimicking others or selling out. It's obvious people need to know the difference between the information Glenn Beck puts out vs. Alex Jones unadulterated information.

He uses a great example of Beck's deception:

Beck: Yeah Google is bad because they're basically NSA and a government tool. BUT, you'd be a leftist kook if you were thinking they were abusing their power and collecting data on you.

See the injection of the false left/right paradigm? It certainly thrives on his show.

P.S. Who is Alex Watch?


By the way- here's the real video (what cylon posted is the main page of the Alex Jones youtube channel which changes daily)

Alex Jones is a jerk. I can't stand him. I don't get why you all think he is so fabulous.

I guess in the end (resurrection) we will see who was good and who wasn't.

Alex Jones has a good heart, but his antics are both to his advantage and downfall. I find him entertaining at worst and inspiring at best. I think mellowing out might get more people to listen to him, but I myself like him just the way he is.

Nan wrote:Alex Jones is a jerk. I can't stand him. I don't get why you all think he is so fabulous.

I guess in the end (resurrection) we will see who was good and who wasn't.

Nice drive by. Next time, try and throw in an example or two.

I am shocked and surprised that every once in a while I feel the spirit when I watch Glenn Beck. I never do when I watch Alex Jones.

InfoWarrior82 wrote:

Nan wrote:Alex Jones is a jerk. I can't stand him. I don't get why you all think he is so fabulous.

I guess in the end (resurrection) we will see who was good and who wasn't.

Nice drive by. Next time, try and throw in an example or two.

Okay lets put some facts on the table here. I have been watching Becks show on TV and he has been laying out the plans of the enemies from within and outside our borders organized to bring revolution to this country and the world. Communist sympathizing useful idiots and revolutionaries are puting the pedal to the metal in trying to foment a violent revolution in this country aimed at destroying constitutional rights of the individual and expanding communism and violent revolution worldwide. Glenn is hammering time and again example after example about socialist/communist revolutionary tactics being employed by these anti-Christ revolutionaries. I havent even heard him mention the name Alex Jones once on his program.

Yet I see from posts here that Alex Jones seems obsessed on demonizing Glenn Beck and his "dangerous motives." This reminds me a bit of the anti-Mormon groups out there who can't seem to let the Church out of their bullseye. They just have to keep hammering their dislike and distaste for the Church and need to let the world know over and over again how evil it is.

Tell me what Jones so vehemently disagrees with on what Beck has been saying. I don't listen to Jones regularly because frankly he acts like a horses hiney with his obnoxious bullhorn style and it just turns me off. Why is Jones spending time with Beck when he should be focusing on the real revolutionaries out there trying to destroy this country and fomenting revolution. It comes across to me a jealousy on his part. What am I missing here?

I like Alex. His analysis of Glen might be a little harsh, but he had good examples to back up his claim. It seems pretty accurate overall.

Mark wrote:
Okay lets put some facts on the table here. I have been watching Becks show on TV and he has been laying out the plans of the enemies from within and outside our borders organized to bring revolution to this country and the world. Communist sympathizing useful idiots and revolutionaries are puting the pedal to the metal in trying to foment a violent revolution in this country aimed at destroying constitutional rights of the individual and expanding communism and violent revolution worldwide. Glenn is hammering time and again example after example about socialist/communist revolutionary tactics being employed by these anti-Christ revolutionaries. I havent even heard him mention the name Alex Jones once on his program.

He does mention them. Except, when he does, he appropriately links them to their globalist handlers who use communist/socialist tactics to divide the masses. It does not begin and end with Andy Stern, Van Jones, & George Soros.

Mark wrote: Yet I see from posts here that Alex Jones seems obsessed on demonizing Glenn Beck and his "dangerous motives." This reminds me a bit of the anti-Mormon groups out there who can't seem to let the Church out of their bullseye. They just have to keep hammering their dislike and distaste for the Church and need to let the world know over and over again how evil it is.

To be clear, Alex Jones never mentions Glenn Beck's religion. I think what we are seeing here is Alex going back and forth between praising Beck when he does some good and blasting him when he comes out and says something so frustratingly ignorant. It even comes out as downright willingly deceptive sometimes. I wouldn't be surprised that in the next month or two, we will see Alex devoting a whole video to Beck finally "getting it".. then shortly after... another one of these.

Mark wrote: Tell me what Jones so vehemently disagrees with on what Beck has been saying. I don't listen to Jones regularly because frankly he acts like a horses hiney with his obnoxious bullhorn style and it just turns me off. Why is Jones spending time with Beck when he should be focusing on the real revolutionaries out there trying to destroy this country and fomenting revolution. It comes across to me a jealousy on his part. What am I missing here?

Watching the video should explain that one! At the heart of it is most likely Jones seeing himself doing a lot of the "leg work" which then is being used by Beck a few moments later. Jones sees himself as a patriot doing his best to give you the whole story without a hidden agenda-- no democrat.. no republican hogwash. It's kinda strange that when Jones lays out the plan of the elites, soon after Beck is out there doing the same. The only thing is though, it's just PART of the story. No talk about the false left/right paradigm. No linking Bush and Obama in the same sentence in how they are NOT DIFFERENT AT ALL. Always going back to Bush policies that "worked better" than the current administration. Never explaining the definition of a neo-con. No mention of Rupert Murdoch's blatant internationalist/carbon tax ideologies which are no different than George Soros. No mention of the funding of the nations in the world wars. CIA involvement in drug trafficking. No mention of terrorists being at the pentagon, being allowed onto planes, allowed to carry out "near misses". His backflip on Fema Camps (lol).

Glenn Beck is kinda like the gateway drug that leads you to Alex Jones. Hahaha. I remember the days I spent watching Glenn Beck until my YOUNGER brother showed me the Obama Deception. From that point on the whole truth tasted so much sweeter.

He uses the word monitor and says that Glenn Beck is mixing lies in.
He says he hasn't sell out but implies that Glenn Beck has.
He says Glenn "stole" his research. But actually puts up no proof of theft.
He brags about how he has been fighting the fight for so long and Glenn Beck has only done it for two years.
He says soros is only midlevel at best. But doesn't say who is higher. And Glenn Beck has NEVER said Van Jones is at the top.
Umm word for word when someone else's is talking is an interesting charge. Especially since he never shows the exact words he said.
He says multiple times that it was said word for word the same as him but NEVER backs up with proof.
How is he ripping off Alex's research when it is all publicly available for anyone who goes looking?

The question I have is why is Alex trying to destroy someone who is doing so much good? He sounds absolutely jealous, and angry that he has not been as successful. Oh he claims he could be as successful but offers no proof of that. Glenn Beck has been more successful at waking people up and getting them to start doing something about the situation. He has gotten more people to start preparing with food storage and he has gotten more people to turn to God.

Alex has done a great job at marginalizing all of the people who listen to him. People do not listen to them because he has made them look crazy. Nothing good has come from him. He hasn't changed a thing.

Not a fan of AJ, not a fan of GB. Both need to check their egos when spinning their webs. This video is nothing less than a pity party by the guy who hasn't hit the big time. He's alarmist, extreme and a blow hard. I feel nothing when I watch/listen to him. Can't see what so many of you see in him.

Now lets find a positive thing about Glenn shall we? =))

Nan wrote:He uses the word monitor and says that Glenn Beck is mixing lies in.
He says he hasn't sell out but implies that Glenn Beck has.
He says Glenn "stole" his research. But actually puts up no proof of theft.
He brags about how he has been fighting the fight for so long and Glenn Beck has only done it for two years.
He says soros is only midlevel at best. But doesn't say who is higher. And Glenn Beck has NEVER said Van Jones is at the top.
Umm word for word when someone else's is talking is an interesting charge. Especially since he never shows the exact words he said.
He says multiple times that it was said word for word the same as him but NEVER backs up with proof.
How is he ripping off Alex's research when it is all publicly available for anyone who goes looking?

The question I have is why is Alex trying to destroy someone who is doing so much good? He sounds absolutely jealous, and angry that he has not been as successful. Oh he claims he could be as successful but offers no proof of that. Glenn Beck has been more successful at waking people up and getting them to start doing something about the situation. He has gotten more people to start preparing with food storage and he has gotten more people to turn to God.

Alex has done a great job at marginalizing all of the people who listen to him. People do not listen to them because he has made them look crazy. Nothing good has come from him. He hasn't changed a thing.

I feel the same way Nan. Everytime I have seen Jones in action he drips of self conceit and pompousness. He has a constant chip on his shoulder and berates anyone who dares look at things differently than he does. If someone like Beck provides some of the same information that he has done he accuses Him of theft and plagerism. The guy to me is a tiresome bore who actually turns people off more than not.

Beck on the other hand constantly makes fun of himself calling himself a rodeo clown yet challenges any to disprove his materials. He has awakened more people to the conspiracy from within than Jones would ever dream of doing. That is why Jones feels compelled to attack Beck every chance he can. It is a matter of pride. Those who don't see it are just not looking imo.

The thing I get from Jones is that he is years ahead of Beck, and some of his stuff is over the top. Beck on the other hand knows alot more than he is talking about...he is more or less trying to bring people in as fast as they will let him. I would never have believed some of the conspiracies until after the 2008 election, and started doing my own research. Jones says Beck will not expose Murdock as a globalist....well, he would be without a job for one, and I think when time is getting close to fox letting him go, he will try to expose Murdock and the other globalist.

Don't know, that's just my take on it, I listen to both, not all that often, I prefer to do my own research...but it does get rather confusing and time consuming.

AJ is clearly having a "poor me" party and doing alot of "that was mine first" nonsense - that's rather "third-grade" and quite frankly embarassing........

AJ needs to get over his jealously of Beck.

Only one thing that I still see with Brother Beck- he talks a great game about Freedom, Liberty, postive change, education, etc- but when he has a chance to support a truly great man who could have a great impact on our country- he dosen't walk the walk- Ron Paul anyone?

To me it's that simple without all the name calling and AJ temper tantrum....................

Mummy wrote:

Original_Intent wrote:I think Alex is working an angle, but I trust him ten times more than Beck.

I'm sorry, I have tried to give Glenn a fair shake, but everything Alex says here rings true. Beck comes across as an actor who is saying a lot of the right things now to build credibility so he can drive the buss off a cliff when it matters. I hope I am wrong and will withhold judgement for now - but will be watching him closely going into the 2012 election cycle.

I believe that Alex is the real deal, albeit like you say he definitely is playing his own game.

Agree with you there! GB is definitely not on my valentines list....

My take is this: If Beck is, at least, making us think, causing a stir for one's own research, and has the guts to stand in front of a camera in order to accomplish this...then it is a good thing, is it not? Nobody's perfect!

Besides he doesn't come up with this stuff on his own; he has several researchers on staff gathering the info he shares. (He stated on aire he has researchers) As long as he's better than 50% right, it can't be too bad. At this point, if he were to run for President of the US how many would vote for him? Mitt Romney apparently has gone sour in our minds. GB would be much better than the current one. When I read 42 Months I immediately pictured Obama out in front of the satanic movement. Scary.

Nan wrote:He uses the word monitor and says that Glenn Beck is mixing lies in.

He does mix lies in.

Nan wrote:He says he hasn't sell out but implies that Glenn Beck has.

Glenn Beck HAS sold out. You don't realize that? It's obvious that there are some things he's not allowed to talk about. That's selling out.

Nan wrote:He says Glenn "stole" his research. But actually puts up no proof of theft.

Did you watch the video!!!????? Plenty of it in there.

Nan wrote:He brags about how he has been fighting the fight for so long and Glenn Beck has only done it for two years.

Yep. Kinda convenient that Beck shows up on the scene right at the point where the system needs to control the opposition.

Nan wrote:He says soros is only midlevel at best. But doesn't say who is higher. And Glenn Beck has NEVER said Van Jones is at the top.

Did you see Beck's "Tree of Revolution" or whatever it was called???? Van Jones was right up there at the top! And yes, Jones has listed those who are at the top. If you don't know who is at the top by now, there's no hope for you.

Nan wrote:Umm word for word when someone else's is talking is an interesting charge. Especially since he never shows the exact words he said.

Again, watch the video.

Nan wrote:He says multiple times that it was said word for word the same as him but NEVER backs up with proof.

Again, watch the video. It's all there.

Nan wrote:How is he ripping off Alex's research when it is all publicly available for anyone who goes looking?

It's not so much "stealing" the public information as it is taking it AND LEAVING OUT KEY INFORMATION. Alex says he would be flattered if it were just taking the same information... but it's not quite the same when it's reproduced. That's what gets him so ticked.

Nan wrote:The question I have is why is Alex trying to destroy someone who is doing so much good?

Lots of good, with little bits of lies. Alex points out the good BUT ALSO points out the lies.

Nan wrote:He sounds absolutely jealous, and angry that he has not been as successful.

) ) He doesn't care about being as "successful" as Beck. He's content with being able to go home and sleep while knowing that he is giving people the WHOLE truth.

Nan wrote:Oh he claims he could be as successful but offers no proof of that.

Jones DID in fact have offers many years ago to go mainstream. Look it up.

Nan wrote:Glenn Beck has been more successful at waking people up and getting them to start doing something about the situation. He has gotten more people to start preparing with food storage and he has gotten more people to turn to God.

Doing something about the situation!? Like what?!? Having people attend his rallies? Keeping people in the dark? Telling people to question with boldness and not doing that himself?

Nan wrote:Alex has done a great job at marginalizing all of the people who listen to him. People do not listen to them because he has made them look crazy. Nothing good has come from him. He hasn't changed a thing.

He's done a ton! ) He continues to give you the facts every day. A lot more than what Beck will do. Each day people are waking up to the truth and are unlocking their minds from this false reality that the mainstream media and our two phony political parties keep us in. I don't think that makes someone crazy at all. Listening to Alex Jones is like drinking from a fire hose while listening to Beck is like sipping a sippy cup.

I certainly agree that Jones has a huge ego problem. But I don;t think this is just an envy issue, I think he has legitimate concerns that GB still pushes the left-right paradigm that is absolutely one of the root problems that we face.

I for one am hugely appreciative of where Beck has come in the last two years (from when he said that Ron Paul supporters were terrorists and needed to be treated as such.) Everyone makes mistakes.

But the "sellout" label applies/ What he says in this video is legitimate. I stil think that Glenn Beck is overall a positive because he gets people to wake up and do their own studying that I believe often leads them into those areas that Glenn is not allowed to go on his show. It'll be interesting to see who Glenn backs in 2012.

I don't think it will be Mitt, as that would not play well, and he would be accused of just supporting a fellow LDS. He'll probably slip in as much positive Mitt as he can while still maintaining some neutrality.

I think he will probably give Ron Paul some props for being right on so many things, but expect he will dismiss him as unelectable. (Again an example of EXACTLY what AJ is complaining about.)

I'm currently feeling pretty good about Beck, but I don;t fully trust him. I don;t fully trust AJ either, and I think his STYLE does drive a lot of people away. Just like the people that booed Rumsfeld when he got the "Defender of the Constitution" award - I think AJ would have been right in the middle of that action. And that is going to offend a lot of people who feel you just don't behave that way in politics.

I do feel that AJ acts based on conviction, not worry with how it will play. That being said, he knows that he has his niche audience that loves that about him. And certainly he goes over the top to play to his fan base - but I still feel that everything he says and does is based on conviction and trying to get at and expose the whole truth. I think Glenn does what he can but will not stray off the reservation. He has, in my opinion, accepted certain restrictions in order to keep his large platform. Both serve a purpose, I like how someone said GB is a gateway drup to AJ. And the fact that GB does have such a huge audience, he may end up leading more people to become seekers of "the rest of the story" than AJ.

Always a good topic to get everyone fired up.....

I don't understand the bickering between Alex and Glenn. I think its silly! Both provide useful information and both should be praised for it. I've learned a lot from both Alex and Glenn and appreciate their cries for Americans to wake up! This bickering has got to stop!

Alex Jones can't tolerate the threat to his ego or his paradigm. KInd of like some posters here.