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kathyn wrote:Alex Jones can't tolerate the threat to his ego or his paradigm. KInd of like some posters here.

.....careful you are revealing who one of those posters is by your response.....

kathyn wrote:Alex Jones can't tolerate the threat to his ego or his paradigm. KInd of like some posters here.

Oh please, Alex Jones doesn't even come close to Glenn Becks DAILY responding to the dozens and dozens of remarks made about him. Out of all of them, the one he should be responding to is Alex's accusations.

Alex Jones is a bit jealous of Beck. Of course he says that he has had all the offers but turned them down. He thinks that almost everything is a conspiracy. Which plays our very nicely on this website. Maybe the site should be changed to ldsconspiracyforum.com. You guys really love a good conspiracy theory... hence AJ is the man!

kfb wrote:Alex Jones is a bit jealous of Beck. Of course he says that he has had all the offers but turned them down. He thinks that almost everything is a conspiracy. Which plays our very nicely on this website. Maybe the site should be changed to ldsconspiracyforum.com. You guys really love a good conspiracy theory... hence AJ is the man!

It's easy to just make sweeping comments, but much more difficult to back them up. Mark is the only one here on this forum that's actually had some valid reasons in the past. Would you like to make an attempt to compete with Mark? At least, maybe you'd like to share where you think Alex Jones is wrong? Perhaps you can share your thoughts on Ether chapter 8? Maybe even comment to anything specified in the video in the original post...

BrentL wrote:why dosnt alex jones admit he got his "years of research" from Cleon Skousen, and ETB, and Gary Allen? I guess Alex jones now OWNS the david rockerfeller quote. Alex jones is wrong because he does not know Christ. period. this entire thread is a joke. a bad joke. according to Alex Jones and the Jonesites if you dont agree with everything he says you are a plant. according the the Beckites, the Jonesitese have gone to far. what a joke. what a joke ANYONE is for being a Jonesites or a Beckite. perhaps they should get together and kill one another till only one is left standing. then we will know what one god has chosen because god will protect the more righteous one.

Amen. As one very new to these parts I am surprised at the level of reactionary commitment to alarmists in the media and the sign seeking for the 2nd coming that I see here. I'm all for being aware but far too many here are straining at nats and using prolific paid prognosticators like Jones and Beck to justify their silliness. Conversations like this one just take it to a ridiculous level and discredit other conversations on the board when one starts to compare names on posts to certain attitudes/opinions. These guys in the media might be interesting and entertaining but the value of their information needs to be tempered with an intelligent review of known current events, a listening ear to prophetic leadership and relevant personal revelation.

Just my two cents.

All talk! Give me something to work with here! )

InfoWarrior82 wrote: Nice drive by. Next time, try and throw in an example or two.

InfoWarrior82 wrote: It's easy to just make sweeping comments, but much more difficult to back them up. Mark is the only one here on this forum that's actually had some valid reasons in the past. Would you like to make an attempt to compete with Mark? At least, maybe you'd like to share where you think Alex Jones is wrong? Perhaps you can share your thoughts on Ether chapter 8? Maybe even comment to anything specified in the video in the original post...

BrentL wrote:why dosnt alex jones admit he got his "years of research" from Cleon Skousen, and ETB, and Gary Allen? .

By the way, he does admit that (minus the ETB because he doesn't even know who that is.)

I don't think Alex should care what Glenn Beck says or does. It's a distraction and it's making Alex look foolish. Alex has total credibility. It will be a while before Glenn Beck has any credibility. You can't say that Ron Paul is a terrorist and 9/11 truthers should be arrested and then expect people to forget that and believe that you're a true patriot and libertarian.

As far as the information is concerned, no, Alex doesn't hold the copyright on information on globalism and the NWO conspiracy. Yes, Beck is probably getting a lot of his information from the Alex Jones Show and websites but I would take that as a compliment.

We will know that Bro. Beck is sincere when they take him off the air. Its possible that Glenn Beck has been converted to the truth and is doing his best to get the information out. The jury is still out. I still don't get a good feeling about Glenn Beck. :-s

Right, wrong or indifferent, who else in the church has the guts to stand in front of a camera and say our govn't has Socialistic, Gadianton type crooks in it? Or to expose George Soros for who and what he is? And it's not just Beck. He has other guests on the program helping the cause of exposing these blatant acts of Godless tactics. Nobodies perfect. Can't we cut Beck some slack, already?

If Beck were running for Pres. along with Obama in 2012, who would be chosen by true patriots? Of course Beck isn't nor probably won't, but you get my point.

freedomfighter wrote:If Beck were running for Pres. along with Obama in 2012, who would be chosen by true patriots?

Answer: Ron Paul!

There is no perfect messenger. What it comes down to is the quality and accuracy of the information. Beck is compromised, just look who he works for. Jones might be too bull-headed to let someone buy him off, but he would be a perfect vent for disinformation. I'm pretty convinced the GAAC/NWO/GR are seeding the dialogue of all media with their propaganda.

5tev3 wrote:There is no perfect messenger. What it comes down to is the quality and accuracy of the information. Beck is compromised, just look who he works for. Jones might be too bull-headed to let someone buy him off, but he would be a perfect vent for disinformation. I'm pretty convinced the GAAC/NWO/GR are seeding the dialogue of all media with their propaganda.

What is GAAC?
What is GR?

Is it: Gadiantons Are All Conspirators?
Is GR: Government Robbers? :-\ :-\

5tev3 wrote:There is no perfect messenger. What it comes down to is the quality and accuracy of the information. Beck is compromised, just look who he works for. Jones might be too bull-headed to let someone buy him off, but he would be a perfect vent for disinformation. I'm pretty convinced the GAAC/NWO/GR are seeding the dialogue of all media with their propaganda.

I have felt this way for some time Steve. The best way to distract true patriots who are concerned about their own country is to plant misinformation and falsehoods that agree with the basic preface of whatever conspiracy is hot. Do we really think the gadiantons and conspiracy leaders are not up on human nature and group think tactics? I could start a baseless rumor on this site that agrees with NWO principles and I would have dozens of people buying into it just because it lines up with their own paradigm. Even the very elect can be deceived if they are not careful and watchful of this type of thing.

Mark wrote:

5tev3 wrote:There is no perfect messenger. What it comes down to is the quality and accuracy of the information. Beck is compromised, just look who he works for. Jones might be too bull-headed to let someone buy him off, but he would be a perfect vent for disinformation. I'm pretty convinced the GAAC/NWO/GR are seeding the dialogue of all media with their propaganda.

I have felt this way for some time Steve. The best way to distract true patriots who are concerned about their own country is to plant misinformation and falsehoods that agree with the basic preface of whatever conspiracy is hot. Do we really think the gadiantons and conspiracy leaders are not up on human nature and group think tactics? I could start a baseless rumor on this site that agrees with NWO principles and I would have dozens of people buying into it just because it lines up with their own paradigm. Even the very elect can be deceived if they are not careful and watchful of this type of thing.

Here's a good rule to follow: When information is brought up out of nowhere and has no basis in fact or otherwise does not have documented sources, take it with a huge grain of salt. Pretty simple rule.

Perhaps you didn't listen to his January 5th interview with Nick Begich.

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Mark wrote:

5tev3 wrote:There is no perfect messenger. What it comes down to is the quality and accuracy of the information. Beck is compromised, just look who he works for. Jones might be too bull-headed to let someone buy him off, but he would be a perfect vent for disinformation. I'm pretty convinced the GAAC/NWO/GR are seeding the dialogue of all media with their propaganda.

I have felt this way for some time Steve. The best way to distract true patriots who are concerned about their own country is to plant misinformation and falsehoods that agree with the basic preface of whatever conspiracy is hot. Do we really think the gadiantons and conspiracy leaders are not up on human nature and group think tactics? I could start a baseless rumor on this site that agrees with NWO principles and I would have dozens of people buying into it just because it lines up with their own paradigm. Even the very elect can be deceived if they are not careful and watchful of this type of thing.

If for one moment anyone here on this forum were to purposely post false information in the guise of disseminating worth while information just to get a rise out of the others, this forum would become corrupted. Honest mistakes and humor can be overlooked, but someone just stirring the pot for self amusment is no better than what the Gads are doing to this country. I hope our paradigm is to learn from other saints that we assume are sincere in what they are posting. This is something WE COULD NOT EXPECT from other websites with forums. Too much face slapping, profanity and sexual talk, right?

freedomfighter wrote:If for one moment anyone here on this forum were to purposely post false information in the guise of disseminating worth while information just to get a rise out of the others, this forum would become corrupted.

I'm new here compared to many others. But in my short time here I see plenty of evidence of just what you describe. This is a somewhat dangerous place to be for the, uh, faint of heart.

freedomfighter wrote:

Mark wrote:

5tev3 wrote:There is no perfect messenger. What it comes down to is the quality and accuracy of the information. Beck is compromised, just look who he works for. Jones might be too bull-headed to let someone buy him off, but he would be a perfect vent for disinformation. I'm pretty convinced the GAAC/NWO/GR are seeding the dialogue of all media with their propaganda.

I have felt this way for some time Steve. The best way to distract true patriots who are concerned about their own country is to plant misinformation and falsehoods that agree with the basic preface of whatever conspiracy is hot. Do we really think the gadiantons and conspiracy leaders are not up on human nature and group think tactics? I could start a baseless rumor on this site that agrees with NWO principles and I would have dozens of people buying into it just because it lines up with their own paradigm. Even the very elect can be deceived if they are not careful and watchful of this type of thing.

If for one moment anyone here on this forum were to purposely post false information in the guise of disseminating worth while information just to get a rise out of the others, this forum would become corrupted. Honest mistakes and humor can be overlooked, but someone just stirring the pot for self amusment is no better than what the Gads are doing to this country. I hope our paradigm is to learn from other saints that we assume are sincere in what they are posting. This is something WE COULD NOT EXPECT from other websites with forums. Too much face slapping, profanity and sexual talk, right?

Surely you jest Bro. I have been on this forum for a few years now and have heard as many unsubstantiated baseless rumors that never came to fruition as could be found in the National Inquirer. Sincere or not passing on baseless rumors can still gain traction and create a stir among the potential believer. Just look at some of the stuff Alex Jones and all his guests have disseminated over the past decade. Some of it turned out to be sensationalistic shock value claptrap yet many hung on every word because they were "one of us". Don't be naive. False info can be planted anywhere you look. Even in the LDS Freedom Forum.

Mark wrote:

Mark wrote:

5tev3 wrote: I have felt this way for some time Steve. The best way to distract true patriots who are concerned about their own country is to plant misinformation and falsehoods that agree with the basic preface of whatever conspiracy is hot. Do we really think the gadiantons and conspiracy leaders are not up on human nature and group think tactics? I could start a baseless rumor on this site that agrees with NWO principles and I would have dozens of people buying into it just because it lines up with their own paradigm. Even the very elect can be deceived if they are not careful and watchful of this type of thing.

If for one moment anyone here on this forum were to purposely post false information in the guise of disseminating worth while information just to get a rise out of the others, this forum would become corrupted. Honest mistakes and humor can be overlooked, but someone just stirring the pot for self amusment is no better than what the Gads are doing to this country. I hope our paradigm is to learn from other saints that we assume are sincere in what they are posting. This is something WE COULD NOT EXPECT from other websites with forums. Too much face slapping, profanity and sexual talk, right?

Surely you jest Bro. I have been on this forum for a few years now and have heard as many unsubstantiated baseless rumors that never came to fruition as could be found in the National Inquirer. Sincere or not passing on baseless rumors can still gain traction and create a stir among the potential believer. Just look at some of the stuff Alex Jones and all his guests have disseminated over the past decade. Some of it turned out to be sensationalistic shock value claptrap yet many hung on every word because they were "one of us". Don't be naive. False info can be planted anywhere you look. Even in the LDS Freedom Forum.

What happens, folks-- when unsubstantiated rumors are attempted on this site-- people always call it out immediately. If it's unsubstantiated, but plausible, (a theory) I've still never seen people run around with it like it's a fact. If you can show me an example otherwise, I'd like to see it.

Mark, it's funny that you mention Alex Jones being wrong, while failing to mention that he's right 90%+ of the time. I could say the same stuff about Glenn Beck and would expect that you would have something to say in his defense. Right?

The thing I would like Alex Jones to keep in mind is that Glenn Beck is introducing people from a wide spectrum to what is going on. Once a sheep understands that the wolves who control him have in mind, then that informed sheep will seek out information and be far more likely to gravitate to someone like Jones.

I have to admit, I love research and I have found that Jones has done a good job.

Mark wrote:Don't be naive. False info can be planted anywhere you look. Even in the LDS Freedom Forum.

I would be naive to think that just because you have been on this forum for years, that it makes you an authority.

I said: Honest mistakes and humor can be overlooked, but someone just stirring the pot for self amusment is no better than what the Gads are doing to this country. I hope our paradigm is to learn from other saints that we assume are sincere in what they are posting.

By my own observation and words from other posters that are not in favor of some of your views, I would be naive NOT to be aware that you are here just to PROVE my point? Awesome! :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

freedomfighter wrote:

Mark wrote:Don't be naive. False info can be planted anywhere you look. Even in the LDS Freedom Forum.

I would be naive to think that just because you have been on this forum for years, that it makes you an authority.

I said: Honest mistakes and humor can be overlooked, but someone just stirring the pot for self amusment is no better than what the Gads are doing to this country. I hope our paradigm is to learn from other saints that we assume are sincere in what they are posting.

By my own observation and words from other posters that are not in favor of some of your views, I would be naive NOT to be aware that you are here just to PROVE my point? Awesome! :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

LOL.....thank you! Best laugh I've had all week!!!

freedomfighter wrote:

Mark wrote:Don't be naive. False info can be planted anywhere you look. Even in the LDS Freedom Forum.

I would be naive to think that just because you have been on this forum for years, that it makes you an authority.

I said: Honest mistakes and humor can be overlooked, but someone just stirring the pot for self amusment is no better than what the Gads are doing to this country. I hope our paradigm is to learn from other saints that we assume are sincere in what they are posting.

By my own observation and words from other posters that are not in favor of some of your views, I would be naive NOT to be aware that you are here just to PROVE my point? Awesome! :ymapplause: :ymapplause: :ymapplause:

I'm glad I could serve some good purpose on this forum. You are awesome oh wise one. B-)

Beck Crucified by Alex Jones and the NYT in the same week.....nothing to see here sheeple (in the words of your great prophet)

Frankly, AJ would be president by now if it wasn't for Glenn Beck.