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Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 11th, 2011, 12:05 pm
by EmmaLee
Thanks, Reese; I appreciate it!

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 11th, 2011, 11:18 pm
by M249Gunner
Heh, heh, heh...I read a few of Denver Snuffer's blog posts and some of the things that you all have said about him and kind of had the impression that he was some holier than thou perfectionist until I read the following:

http://denversnuffer.blogspot.com/searc ... 20trash%22" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now he seems more like a regular guy that maybe I could relate to :-)

From the above link:

WWJD

Stopped shaving a few weeks ago, except for the neck. Now I've got a bit of face hair, which feels like spiders are crawling all over my face. I took a poll, figuring I'd get a vote to return to the orthodox visage. To my surprise all the kids said "keep it." Even my wife says to leave it for a while. So I'm going to keep the spiders for a while.

I've done this before, back when I made the annual trip to Sturgis. I know that eventually there isn't any feeling to a beard. In fact, when you shave it off then you can feel the air movement on your face and that's quite weird for a few days. But I haven't been to Sturgis for about 5 years or more, and so I hadn't grown a beard for that long.

As an aside, when you go to Sturgis you ought to look the part. The "brethren" there expect some effort to blend in. Consequently, I have managed a fairly true 'scooter-trash' look when I make the effort.

As long as I have the chin-hair I need to dust off the Harley, get it inspected and licensed, and start riding again this summer. It is, of course, the answer to the question: "WWJD?" (What would Jesus drive?) It's environmentally friendly, leaves a small carbon footprint, quick, high-mileage, ....fun as hell, and pretty badass, too. All the ingredients needed for transcendental transportation.

Steppenwolf sang the theme song to it all:



Get your motor runnin'
Head out on the highway;
look'in for adventure
and whatever comes our way......

I like smoke and lightning
Heavy metal thunder
Racin' with the wind
And the feelin' that I'm under.....

It's a biker thing. Can't be explained. Can be shared, though. You start with face hair; ... then let it take you to its logical extreme.

Hmmmm......no wonder missionaries are clean-shaven.

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 18th, 2011, 3:03 pm
by creator
Nan wrote:I would like to thank the person that suggested the book, The Second Comforter:: Conversing with the Lord Through the Veil. It is a wonderful book and I am learning a lot from it. So thank you whoever you are.
I would also like to thank my friend who recommended the book to me.

At the moment I am about half way through reading "The Second Comforter". I sure am glad I'm reading it. I highly recommend it. I am happy to see so many others on the forum have read it, or are reading it (or are about to read it ;) )

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 18th, 2011, 8:28 pm
by kathyn
I'm reading The Second Comforter again. It's worth a second look, for sure.

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 26th, 2011, 1:48 pm
by Songbird
Mummy wrote:Thank you for the heads up! Just starting into the 1st one though based on recommendation from reese.....
Mummy,
How are you doing with this read? I just started it, but I am a little put off by some of the comments about snuffer in other posts.
Kathyn, How about you?

Thanks...

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 26th, 2011, 2:04 pm
by Like
Scarecrow wrote:Please don't take this is an attack, but I'd like a little insight here as I'm always a bit cautious when I hear people speaking with such adoration about someone who has revealed such supposedly deep and profound doctrinal mysteries, when that person appears is operating outside the priesthood "chain of command" so to speak. I don't think that truth only comes from the 1st Pres. but something of this nature seems to me to probably within their purview

I also have a hard time with someone who supposed has had their call and election made sure, write a book and profit from such a profound experience.

If

Here are some things Denver Snuffer has said:
[i]Denver Snuffer[/i] wrote: I am surprised by how people regard me as something special. I have been blessed by the Lord to be able to write some books and put some information on this blog. However, if you were raised LDS and put forth some nominal effort to living your religion, you have lived a better life than I have. I wasn't raised LDS and had no understanding of the Gospel, or the underlying reasons for the commandments. Therefore, I never obeyed even a fraction of the commandments that you have grown up following.

I am absolutely convinced that any one of you is a better candidate than I was to receive an audience with the Lord. The wonder of this process is not that someone has done it, but that so few have. Given that I am probably the least qualified, the point should not be lost on you. If it has happened to me, then it absolutely can and should happen to you.

God is no respecter of persons. All are alike to Him. Qualifications are based upon the behavior and faith of the person, not on their status or past mistakes.

You probably think your errors are more serious an impediment to God accepting you than He ever has. He doesn't want to judge you, He wants to heal you. He wants to give you what you lack, teach you to be better and to bless you. He doesn't want to belittle, demean or punish you. Ask Him to forgive and He forgives. Even very serious sins. He does not want you burdened with them. He wants you to leave them behind.

His willingness to leave those errors in the past and remember them no more is greater than you can imagine. It is a guiding principle for the Atonement. Asking for forgiveness is almost all that is required to be forgiven.

What alienates us from Him is not our sins. He will forgive them. What we lack is the confidence to ask in faith, nothing doubting, for His help. He can and will help when you do so.

The sins that offend Him are not the errors, weaknesses and foolishness of the past. He is offended when we are forgiven by Him, and then return to the same sin. That shows a lack of gratitude for His forgiveness. Even then, however, there are addictions, compulsions and weaknesses that we sometimes struggle with for years, even decades. When the sin is due to some difficulty based on biology, physiology or an inherent weakness that we fight for years to overcome, then His patience with us is far greater than our own. He will help in the fight. He will walk along side you as you fight. He does not expect you to run faster than you have strength. When, at last, because of age or infirmity, a troubling weakness is at last overcome, He will readily accept your repentance and let you move forward clean, whole and forgiven. That is His ministry - to forgive and make whole.

I know all my mistakes. They are greater than most of yours. I am in awe of His mercy and forgiveness. I am not at all impressed by my worthiness. It is nothing. It consists of borrowed finery from Him who has let me use His great worthiness to cover my own failings. To the extent that I have any merit, it comes from Him. I remain astonished that He would condescend for someone like me.

It is a wonder some think I have an advantage. I assure you that the promised blessings are available to ALL. If that were not true then someone as weak, simple and flawed as I am would never have had the hope that I now have in Christ.
[i]Denver Snuffer[/i] wrote: The conditions in "The Second Comforter" include the obligation to keep what is sacred to yourself, and if someone is unable to do that they would need to wait until they are ready to part this life. Which then leads me to another complaint I have about those who think they know what I have written before ever reading it. There are nine words in "The Second Comforter" about my experience. Nothing other than confirming I have seen Him is there. I've never failed to keep a trust or confidence with the Lord. I've been constrained to teach, and have done so despite my deepest apprehensions about all the misunderstanding which will follow. It is a burden, not a blessing, to be in this position. I do not blame anyone for disbelieving what I say. I doubt I would trust someone who is teaching as I do. But I do so because of a burden imposed upon me, and faith in the Lord whose I am.
[i]Denver Snuffer[/i] wrote:I am not trying to make money from book sales. I work as an attorney for a living and writing is not a commercial endeavor. Whatever royalties I earn are donated to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. So you buying a book I've written does nothing financial for me.
[i]Denver Snuffer[/i] wrote:I've explained in The Second Comforter that someone who is unable to keep a confidence is unlikely to be entrusted with information by the Lord. I've never talked about any personal experience, beyond affirming that I have a witness of the Lord. Every other comment, teaching and statement I have made is taken from scripture or from the teachings of Joseph Smith or another trusted authority in this dispensation. There simply is no need to do more than explain doctrine based upon scripture. Why would someone's personal experience be important to reveal? If the doctrine is capable of being explained in existing scripture, then the scriptures ought to be taught.

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 26th, 2011, 5:51 pm
by Jason
Songbird wrote:
Mummy wrote:Thank you for the heads up! Just starting into the 1st one though based on recommendation from reese.....
Mummy,
How are you doing with this read? I just started it, but I am a little put off by some of the comments about snuffer in other posts.
Kathyn, How about you?

Thanks...
I'm diggin' it! I haven't read anything yet that doesn't resonate with the truth that I know.....and lots of little insights and ah ha's along with way (90 pages into it).

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 26th, 2011, 6:14 pm
by Songbird
Thank you. I have since looked at his blog and the other blog mentioned in this thread. Very interesting. I am just finished with Chapter one. One thing I liked was that the Church stays with the basics and people who are looking for other things to learn deeper things, can find them and there is nothing wrong with it except to make sure it is in line with the teachings of the Church.

(I do wish my husband wanted to learn more. I wish he wanted to be a part of this great cause. So much I have to learn and ponder alone. Alas, I always come back to reality when I realize he doesn't mind my activity in it, but don't include him...sigh :ymsigh: ).It is lonely!

Re: I would like to thank...

Posted: February 26th, 2011, 11:31 pm
by kathyn
Songbird, I'm rereading the book for the second time. It means even more this time around.