LDS Freedom Forum

On top of the U.S. Capital Building is a bronze statue of "Freedom."
There is some debate as to who Freedom is, is she Athena from Greek Mythology or is she Freya from Nordic Mythology?

The point of this discussion is to explore and explain who and what Freedom is.

I think it is absolutely stupid to promote that Athena is the source of where we get the person Freedom. Greek culture was a slave culture, there were no Freemen in Greek Culture, as their culture was all about getting more privileges over others by being wiser than another.

The story of Freedom, who she is and what it is, comes from the Icelandic Sagas, from the Yinglinga Saga, and as you study the cultural heritage of the Nordic Tribes you see her and what she represents.

According to the Sagas the woman Free was the Mother of Odin, and that name also applies to Odin's wife. Both of these women moved with the people who migrated to the North Countries from the area of and around Jerusalem at about 35 - 42 A.D.

Who is Free, she is Mary. Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

And Freedom is their culture, Free's domain, of which the United States is a part of, as was given to the Nordic Church and Kingdom by Odin.

God Bless,
Darren

Interesting. I ahve often felt that much of the Odin/Norse mythology lined up pretty well in a lot of respects.

Ragnarok incoming in 4..3...2...1

Original_Intent wrote:Interesting. I ahve often felt that much of the Odin/Norse mythology lined up pretty well in a lot of respects.

Ragnarok incoming in 4..3...2...1

It lines us so well that Cleon Skousen made it a major point in his book "The Majesty of God's Law" and so did Archibald F. Bennett in his books saying that is was possible to prove the stories from the ancient sagas to be true by putting that story together from our mountains of genealogy records.

From Bruce's commentary on the sagas:

At this point two brothers made an arrangement between themselves for the support of the King’s mother. Her name was “FREE”; and it is from her that we get the word. “free,” as well as the concept that that word means that was given to us by her son, the King.

These two brothers’ names were “Way” and “Will.” They were two of the leaders of the twelve “temple priests.” From Will we get the word “will” as well as such names as, “William,” “Will,” “Wilson” etc. From Way we get the word “way” as well as such names as “Wayland,” “Wesley” and “Wessington” (the original pronunciation for “Washington”). From the two brothers together we get the ancient expression, “Where there is a WILL there is a WAY.”

However, after this arrangement for the support of the King’s mother was concluded, the King came back. He took his mother back and told his people there in Asia-city that he had a plan for them. The words of the plan in the English translation of the Saga are:

“In those times the Roman chiefs went wide around in the world, subduing to themselves all people; and on this account many chiefs fled from their domains. But (the King) having foreknowledge, and magic-sight, knew that his posterity would come to settle and dwell in the northern half of the world.”

It seems that the source of the Gross Darkness spoken of in the Doctrine and Covenants is the propaganda taught in our educational system, that the Greeks are the source for our culture. The Greeks were our source for how to run Babylon, and how to propagandize with rhetoric everything else.

Time to unplug from the Greek Sources, and do what Jefferson, Skousen and other did, and tune into the Nordic Sources.

God Bless,
Darren

Darren wrote:
Who is Free, she is Mary. Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

God Bless,
Darren

Love your posts Darren. Please expound on the above line about Mary, Mary Magdalene was a daughter or daughter in law? As a descendant of those in the North Countries (Netherlands) I find these posts very instructive.

Thank you!

Bob

"It seems that the source of the Gross Darkness spoken of in the Doctrine and Covenants is the propaganda taught in our educational system, that the Greeks are the source for our culture. The Greeks were our source for how to run Babylon, and how to propagandize with rhetoric everything else."

It was the Greek influence in the primitive church that changed the understanding of the Godhead from what we know to be true to what modern day Christianity accepts as the truth. It is our "false notions" of the Godhead that is the primary reason we are labled non-Christian.

durangout wrote:It was the Greek influence in the primitive church that changed the understanding of the Godhead from what we know to be true to what modern day Christianity accepts as the truth. It is our "false notions" of the Godhead that is the primary reason we are labled non-Christian.

The Arian Heresy was denounced at the counsel of Nicaea, it said that there are three distinct individuals in the Godhead. Godhead comes from Godhood, and are both Germanic words, Priesthood is the work of Priests and Godhood is the work of Gods. The members of Christs original Church in the North were from that point called Arian Christians, but the belief in the Godhead predates the word Arian. That word Arian that was because the teaching of the Godhood from the Nordic Church was brought to Nicaea reportedly by Arius.

The Orthodox Assembly was only interested in gobbeling up Jesus Christ into the already by then Ancient Orthodox Assembly and Culture promoted by Aristotle. And the Ancient Orthodox Culture must have a pyramid structure where fewer and fewer until the one at the top is the Prime Orthodox, who is the emperor or king of the Orthodox Culture. Catholicism puts Jesus as co-equal to the "The Pontifex Maximus," with no place for a bunch of Arians who are free by virtue of their seeking by an uncontrollable and unpredictable Holy Ghost.

Arian Christianity always believed in the three gods, one (Odin, the law giver), two (Tew, the Holy Ghost), and Three (Thor, the thorough or perfect Father) and named the days of the week after them, Wednesday for Odin, Tuesday for Tew, and Thursday for Thor. The day Friday for Free who is Mary the mother of Jesus. The Nordics used to tell their children that, "if you follow one, he will lead you to two, and that will make you like three. The Gospel is as easy as one, two, three.

God Bless,
Darren

bobhenstra wrote:

Darren wrote:
Who is Free, she is Mary. Mary the mother of Jesus and Mary Magdalene.

God Bless,
Darren

Love your posts Darren. Please expound on the above line about Mary, Mary Magdalene was a daughter or daughter in law? As a descendant of those in the North Countries (Netherlands) I find these posts very instructive.

Thank you!

Bob

Mary Magdalene is the daughter-in-law of Mary the mother of Jesus. And as the wife of Jesus she is the beginning of the bloodline for the Kings of Norway, or the Holy Grail. The culture of the Nordics is the family of Christ and his Apostles, it is the family of Free, Free is her Germanic name. And all women are called after her, Frau.

It is important to point out that the names of Mary and Jesus were never used when Mary and Jesus were alive. The Hebrew for the English Mary is Miriam, and the English word Jesus comes from a Greek adaption of the Hebrew Yeshua which is also the name we say in English of Joshua, and in the Nordic Kingdom they pronounced it closer to Oshua, which is where we get the Germanic word Oath. Oathin is one of his names.

God Bless,
Darren

Would you Please expound a bit on both Mary's concerning the priesthood. The Apocryphal book "The Gospel of Mary" indicates Mary teaching in the prayer circle.

Thanks again

Bob

bobhenstra wrote:Would you Please expound a bit on both Mary's concerning the priesthood. The Apocryphal book "The Gospel of Mary" indicates Mary teaching in the prayer circle.

Thanks again

Bob

Mary the mother of Jesus is the Mother of One (Odin), the daughter of Two (Tew), and the co-parent with Three (Thor). The priesthood culminated upon her, in her special role the church named Friday in honor of her and her daughter-in-law became the continuation of that tradition so that all women are titled after her, Frau. The work of that Mother and Daughter-in-law is what created the culture of Freedom. Wow!

God Bless,
Darren

Darren wrote:

bobhenstra wrote:Would you Please expound a bit on both Mary's concerning the priesthood. The Apocryphal book "The Gospel of Mary" indicates Mary teaching in the prayer circle.

Thanks again

Bob

Mary the mother of Jesus is the Mother of One (Odin), the daughter of Two (Tew), and the co-parent with Three (Thor). The priesthood culminated upon her, in her special role the church named Friday in honor of her and her daughter-in-law became the continuation of that tradition so that all women are titled after her, Frau. The work of that Mother and Daughter-in-law is what created the culture of Freedom. Wow!

God Bless,
Darren

As Queens and Priestesses, each holding her husbands priesthood?

Bob