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In 2 Nephi 10:11 It states ""And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles,and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles."

I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this, and if the term "David my servant" refers to the Royal House of David rather than an individual called David, and is the Royal House of Windsor the continuation of that line? Are they the present custodians of the Throne of David. and will the British Monarchy once more rule in the USA.

Uhhhhh...The British Monarchy can't rule GB let alone the US too. As one of my favorite movies of all time (It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World) says "They would have collapsed years ago if we hadn't given them billions..."

Tony63 wrote:In 2 Nephi 10:11 It states ""And this land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles,and there shall be no kings upon the land, who shall raise up unto the Gentiles."

I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this, and if the term "David my servant" refers to the Royal House of David rather than an individual called David, and is the Royal House of Windsor the continuation of that line? Are they the present custodians of the Throne of David. and will the British Monarchy once more rule in the USA.

The only king that will rule the americas is Christ who is the lawful heir to the throne of David. The Brittish monarchy has nothing to do with it in my opinion.

Queen Cammila!

The Queen is actually a subject of the ruler of the City of LONDON

For you Brits Who rules The CTY? im not current on my British current events. help me out.


Why dont you get us up to speed on The City. I think this is important and noONE here has a clue!!!!!

Isnt that where the saying originated? AS long as I control the money , doesnt matter who writes the laws. ? The Case could be made they have ruled the US for a long time. TARP case in POINT.

Another Question What do the British think about the NWO?

Who is this creep?
The Prince and Grandmaster
His Most Eminent Highness, Frà Andrew Bertie

These people control the likes of Queen "Guelph" Elizabeth II & King Juan Carlos of Spain. These people control all Banking, Politics, Media, Intelligence & Entertainment (Hollywood etc). The second most powerful Order the World has ever known. Second only to the SOCIETY OF JESUS who control the SMOM to this very day.
English people aware of the Queen and the Knights of Malta simply believe this order is a health order as they disguise themselves within this St John and Hospittler nonsense. It is very secretive within the masses what we speak about with her connections to the Vatican. Your not meant to know her true power of this land and certainly not her SERVILITY to Rome. They will then discuss all day the definition of Patron to try and riddle out of it. Too many people think she's the protector of the Protestantism here but its nothing of the sort infact she detests it. Shes a Guelph
Study the Guelph Black Nobility family for answers on this. Remember also her cousin is the 78th Grandmaster and Prince you see above, Cardinal Andrew Bertie. He controls the whole Order with his cousin controlling the British division whilst Egan controls the Americas
http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED ... t26007.htm

"The above Knights of Malta, or Sovereign Order of St. John of Jerusalem (or "Knights Hospitaller"), want you to understand that they are a Protestant order and have absolutely no connection to the Catholic Knights of Malta, or the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM). They want to be very, very clear on that. Very explicit indeed. Yes, they get very testy about people getting these very similar orders mixed up, though they do admit it is extremely confusing to the uninitiated of course. Even though they both have intimate ties with the island nation of Malta, share the same name “Knights of Malta” and same historical roots, the same 8-pointed cross, and their Grandmasters (Nicholas Papanicolaou and Andrew Bertie) are both related through noble peerage to the royal family and Queen of England (who was Queen of Malta 1964 to 1974), there is absolutely no connection between them whatsoever. None. Nada. At all. Understand?"

The Knights Hospitaliers of the Order of St. John of Jerusalem started out in 1050 (their origins go back earlier than this) as an Order to provide medical care to pilgrims to the Holy Lands, soon they became a guard unit for pilgrims and along with the Templars who formed in 1119 after, they became the 2 most powerful Roman Catholic/Christian Orders in the area. The Knights Hospitallers became wealthy escorts/bodyguards and landowners in the area. The Knights went from being a religious medical care order to being a wealthy military Order. After the conquering of Jerusalem in the First Crusades in 1099 they were given their military status and were charged with the protection of the Holy Lands. However despite now being a Military Order, they still retained their Religious Order status, which meant they had privileges granted by the Pope, the order was exempt from ALL authority save that of the Pope (like Blackwater group in Iraq and USA today), and it paid no tithes and was allowed its own religious buildings. Frederick Barbarossa, the Holy Roman Emperor, pledged his protection to the Knights in a charter of privileges granted in 1185. After the fall of Jerusalem the Knights moved to Rhodes (where they became more militarised). The Knights Templar were dissolved in 1312 and their property and enormous financial power was given to the Hospitallers. Incidentally the leader of the Templars, DeMolay was a homosexual peadophile and rapist of young boys, and is much admired by Freemasons today!!! (we know today that their are peadophile rings connected to freemasonry) The Templars suffered a very gruesome end by the Pope. Many surviving Templars joined the Knights Hospitallers. In 1522 the Hospitallers were pushed off Rhodes by Muslim forces and moved to Sicily, and in 1530 the Holy Roman Emporor & King of Sicily gave them the island of Malta. They again became a priority target of the muslim forces and came under attack again. in 1565 the Ottomans attacked with 40,000 against 700 Knights Hospitallers and 8000 soldiers, at the end of the Great Seige the Hospitallers were weak and reduced to 600 soldiers, but apparently the Ottomans were reduced to 15,000 and became greatly discouraged, and likely had imagined the Hospitallers were of greater numbers with reinforcements on the way, but still it was an impressive success. After the seige a new city was built, named Valleta after the leader of the Hospitallers, and became the Capital of Malta. In 1630 the Grand Master was awarded ecclesiastic equality with cardinals, and the unique “His Most Eminent Highness”, reflecting both qualities qualifying him as a Prince of the Church (he was made Prince of the Holy Roman Empire in 1607). Like all the other Roman Catholic Orders, they lost much of their european lands in the Lutheran/Protestant Reformation, but obviously they retained sovereign over Malta and had their staggering wealth and business interests. They would later be restored as an Order in Prussia in 1850 and in England Queen Victoria opened a branch of the Knights of Malta in 1885, with herself as head, a clear illustration of the British Monarchs connections to the Vatican. Here is a photo of Elizabeth II wearing her Knight of Malta regalia, displaying her allegiance to the Vatican (incidentally the Queen can trace her family roots to the Guelph Black Nobility bloodline and the House of Hanover, A research of the Guelph line is interesting, and shows their historical closeness to the Pope.

All the families listed are connected with the House of Guelph, one of the original Black Nobility families of Venice, from which the House of Windsor and thus the present Queen of England, Elizabeth II, descends. The Guelphs are so intertwined with the German aristocracy through the House of Hanover that it would take several pages to mention all their connections. All (almost) European royal houses originate from the House of Hanover and thus from the House of Guelph — the Black Nobility.



An example: the Hanoverian British King George I came from the Duchy of Luneburg, a part of Northern Germany, which had been governed by the Guelph family since the 12th century. Today the Guelphs (the Windsors) rule by dominating the raw materials market, and for years they have fixed the price of gold (a commodity they neither produce nor own). The House of Windsor also controls the price of copper, zinc, lead and tin. It is no accident that the principle commodity exchanges are located in London, England. Companies run by Black Nobility families are British Petroleum, Oppenheimer, Lonrho, Philbro and many many more.

Another Black Nobility family are the Grosvenors in England. For centuries this family lived, as most of the European families, on ground rent. Today the family owns at least 300 acres of land in the centre of London. The land is never sold, but leased on a 39 year leasehold agreement — the ground rent of the middle ages.



Grosvenor Square, in which the American Embassy is located, belongs to the Grosvenor family, as does Eaton Square. In Eaton Square apartments are rented out at 25,000 to 75,000 pounds a month (and that does not include maintenance costs). This is to give you an idea of the immense wealth the Black Nobility families garner from ground rents, and why families like the Windsors are not at all interested in industrial progress along with the excess population it supports.



This is the main reason why these ’noble’ families are behind most, if not all, of the wrong-headed pro-environmental movements of the world that ultimately and covertly (of course) aim to curb population growth. Prince Philip and Prince Charles are the most visible symbols of these movements, and both have often spoken with the utmost callousness about the need to rid the world of unwanted people.

The Black Nobility are the founders of the secret society of our day from which all the others that are connected to the Illuminati originated from — the Committee of 300. The Club of Rome, the C.F.R., the R.I.I.A., the Bilderbergers, the Round Table… all originate from the Committee of 300 and therefore from the European Black Nobility families.



Co-operating with the European Black Nobility are American families like the Harrimans and the McGeorge Bundys.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/socio ... obil02.htm

"the Commonwealth of Nations, headed by Queen Elizabeth II, is made up of 53 nations, spanning the globe, accounting for one-fifth of the land mass of the Earth, and a very high percentage of its strategic resources and population. Though nominally an alliance of independent states, the Commonwealth was itself founded, in the late 19th Century, as a perpetuation of the British Empire."
http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Military_Order_of_Malta

The American Dream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv2oCXbW ... r_embedded#!

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>>>>>NWO = NEW BRITISH EMPIRE

Good post
I'm happy to follow British Israelism...but I am a bit confused that you are equating the NWO to Israel
of course who/ what are those people in Palestine/ Israel at the moment, if the Israel is in the British Isles?

When our Church was set up we had the Patriarch and the President.

Israelite and Saxon Culture operates by both of these offices. Ancient Israel's culture continuing through to today.

King is an ancient Germanic word which means the Kin-ing, According to the Sagas Njörd had his name changed to Ing, who was the first King of Sweden, or the first Ing of the Kin, or said another way, the patriarch of the kin. King is a Germanic word for Patriarch. The information I have studied helps me to understand that Ing is of the Patriarchal linage in the Church, Ing moved with the Church into the North Country sometime around 40 A.D. The kings of Northern Europe trace their linage to Ing and to Odin. Ing is the ancestor of the Inglish/English people. To be a King/Patriarch is to be of the patriarchal line of Odin and Ing.

Who is the Lord's anointed Patriarch of the Inglish or Nordic people today. Joseph Smith said that the Patriarch at his time was Joseph Smith, Sr. and as the Church fills the earth, it is well to understand that the Patriarch of the world is the Church Patriarch standing in the king until Jesus Christ returns.

Today the Church has both a King/Patriarch and a President.

The President put the King on emeritus status in 1979, but that office will continue.

Throughout time the King/Patriarch is used when the Church is not in the position to operate by a President.

America has a king/patriarch, and in the millennium the king will be Jesus Christ.

God Bless,
Darren

Hmm, that is interesting Darren. The position of church patriarch will continue, but is currently on emeritus status.

Isaiah's King Hezekiah, the political leader at the time, a type for our day, would have been the Church patriarch? If so, I've been looking at the wrong people for our King Hezekiah, I know he'll be a righteous member of the church, but also in the hierarchy of the church? I wasn't considering that!

Thanks

Bob

Well if it is going to be a King that does away with Camilla. If the Lord put the church patriarch on emeritus status, then it could be that he will be looking at family patriarchs to step up. Isnt that the true order of the priesthood.?

When the federal government fails, government falls to the states. This is the "tribes scenario that Helaman and third Nephi talks about. The government in the IMW will be led by our "type" of King Hezekiah, except we'll call him governor. Darren made it clearer for me!

Bob