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A lot of members don't like to acknowledge that most of the leaders engaged in polygamous relationships went to Mexico and disobeyedLDSNZ wrote:.. thanx for the education Dr Jones, guys.
Also just a query?
The outlawing of polygamy during the 1800's was that law unconstitutional? (i.e) bearing in mind that the constitution permits freedom of religion, does it not?
Like to hear your feedback on that.
Thanx in advance!
Mark wrote: Let me ask you a question Aussie. I understand you have some fairly strict gun laws in your country with severe restrictions required. Do you thumb your nose at those laws and restrictions and continue to exercise your God given right to keep and bear arms for any reason whenever and wherever you choose to? If not why not?
that's a good reason?? @-)Janadele wrote:
There are very good reasons why not, one being not wanting to be arrested and sent to gaol.
Daniel, the three Hebrews, Abinidi, Alma, Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, John Taylor, George Q. Cannon, Heber C. Kimball, etc, etc, show that that is not a good reason to obey the law that goes against GodsIs that why Joseph Smith and multiple other church leaders evaded "the law" at one point or another after that was written?Janadele wrote:12...We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
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It may do well for members of the Lord's church to remeber that God's Law supercedes those petty laws that man has set up in various countries (including the united states of America), that make a mockery of the higher law.It may do well for all to remember that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a world wide Church, whose membership is not confined to US citizens, nor are Latter-day Saints outside the borders of the US living under the United States Constitution.
What on planet earth does that have to do with obeying Gods law above all others?Janadele wrote:It is beyond ridiculous to proclaim that Australian Latter-day Saints are obliged to disobey the law of their land, risk arrest and imprisonment, have financial dealinga with criminal elements such as the Mafia, in order to "to keep and bear arms".
It may do well for all to remember that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a world wide Church, whose membership is not confined to US citizens, nor are Latter-day Saints outside the borders of the US living under the United States Constitution.
"+10"JulesGP wrote:Maybe you should read - as Paul Harvey says: "The REST of the story....!"Janadele wrote:12...We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
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+ 1 billionJulesGP wrote:For one who is so oversensitive about others opinions in their posts, you certainly are bold with yours.Janadele wrote:maybe a reality check is needed :ymsigh:
Mahonri is on target. Righteous men have died in defense of God's laws - while others feared the arm of the flesh and submitted to unrighteous dominion like lemmings.
Let me propose this scenario: What if (as has been done before) the law of the land decreed that it was illegal to pray. Would you defy the law and pray anyway - and try not to get caught? Or would you mindlessly obey the law of the land and disregard God's laws - and cease to pray???
I for one will do what God commands.
Janadele wrote:Mark wrote: Let me ask you a question Aussie. I understand you have some fairly strict gun laws in your country with severe restrictions required. Do you thumb your nose at those laws and restrictions and continue to exercise your God given right to keep and bear arms for any reason whenever and wherever you choose to? If not why not?
There are very good reasons why not, one being not wanting to be arrested and sent to gaol.