lundbaek wrote,
Generally speaking, IMO the Constitution is not in our hearts, nor in our families, and our communities do not live by it. Certain individuals, OK, but as a nation, even speaking of LDS Church members in general, no way.
I lose sleep at night because most Americans, and especially LDSs ignore the current fight to salvage the Constitution The "Elders of Israel" have, as a unit, dropped the ball. Not fumbled it, but just plain dropped it.
I fail to see how the Elders of Israel, through genealogy work, have saved the Constitution. I associate daily with people very anxiously engaged in genealogy / family history work, and "befriending" the US Constitution is one of the furthest things from their minds. Many of them think all their efforts at genealogy are going to contribute greatly to getting them into the celestial kingdom. Any thoughts on to what extent their failure to "befriend" the Constitution will affect their status on the other side of the veil?
I want to apologize beforehand for my rambling on but here I go.
lundbaek,
Your observations are mostly correct, especially about the Constitution generally not being in the hearts or minds of the rank and file LDS Church Members, nor has genealogy produced a constitution befriending attitude among most LDS so engaged.
I also loose sleep at night wondering about the consequences of this lack of focus of the LDS to fight for the Constitution.
I attended meetings in 2005 in the basement of Cleon Shousen’s home as Glen Kimber taught us out of Cleon’s, “The Making of America” book, about the Constitution. The class was interesting but the attendees were nearly as clueless as the anti-Mormon University of Utah political science students that I had studied with years earlier, as to the history of the Constitution. There was little to nothing taught at that class that helped these LDS in attendance to base themselves with a constitution, or what a constitution means, They were only studying the workings of the U. S. Constitution. The question could be asked, “If the document called the U. S. Constitution disappeared tomorrow would the LDS understand how to make a new one?” And this is our problem! Generally the LDS don’t understand constitution mechanics, or why to even have one at all.
Generally the LDS are engaged in a feel good attitude or a “tithing” focus. The LDS are under great condemnation for this lack of complete focus! As I will explain later, we cannot have a constitution with a tithing focus, a constitution requires a 100% focus.
Just imagine for a moment a corporation that states in its purpose statement that the owners and workers are to devote 10% of their energy to the work of the company. The other 90% is optional. Or to only show up 1 to 2 days a week to work.
When I state that, “the Elders of Israel, through genealogy work, have saved the Constitution.” I mean (rather sadly) that only a very very few have done a great work and have produced a time capsule of sorts that has saved the constitution. I did not mean that the LDS are now in a post Constitution Saving time, because they are not enjoying the benefits of the saved constitution. The U.S. Constitution is dead and forgotten, thanks in part to the rank and file LDS, and upon their heads are there judgments, and upon His house will punishment come down for this neglect and mis-focus.
Now without the safety of the U. S. Constitution we will have a period of anarchy, a cleansing as prophesied. But the key is that on the other side of this cleansing, the time capsule spoken of will be opened to a people ready and willing to live by a constitution, by the knowledge of their forefathers.
The Granite Vaults in Little Cottonwood Canyon above Salt Lake City contain a mostly untold story that is the equivalent of scripture. This is a very special story that when told teaches the LDS how to have a constitution, how to make a constitution, how to live by a constitution. I have read it, Cleon Skousen has also read parts of it and mentions these records in his book, “The Fourth Thousand Years.” And Cleon was planning to reference them in his “The Fifth Thousand Years” book that he said he wanted to write, and he referenced them in his book, “The Majesty of God’s Law.” It is the scriptures of our Lost Ten Tribe Ancestors.
These Granite Vaults are much like the room or cave where Mormon labored away abridging the history, genealogy and holy records of the Nephites. Contained in Mormon’s Vault is the record of Christ’s Visit to the tribes of Israel in ancient America. It also contained the basis of their United Order that was established at the time and just after Christ’s visit. The Nephites lived by a Constitution, they lived by the law of God embodied in that Constitution, their constitutions kept their focus on God for many years. The Book of Mormon fails however in conveying the whole construct of their Constitution to us, as it speaks of a dead civilization to us, and we are unable to live by the lost pieces of that missing Constitution, although the Book of Mormon does convey the principles that were embodied in that Ancient American Constitution.
In the Granite Vaults of ours are the Ancient records of the tribes of Israel living in Germanic Northern Europe/Scandinavia and the record of Christ’s Visit to them. But unlike the book of Mormon the records of our Ancestors in Northern Europe not only contain the basis of their United Order as was established at the time of Christ’s visit to them, it also contains a record of their Constitution and how to make and live by a constitution. It also shows how modern custom and law is a continuation of that original Constitution. All we need to do is recognize the true parts and principles of our own culture and customs and reject Satan’s additions and modifications to it.
What does this knowledge give us.
A Foundation! Especially in the troubled times ahead.
Once we see from our traditions, from our culture the way to live in every aspect of our lives by the Law of God. We are in Zion.
The constitution is in my heart, it is in my family, and I like Enoch am working to get it in my community. I have the instruction manual from my ancestors on how to make and maintain a constitution. I read the scriptures of our Lost Ten Tribe Ancestors, along side the “canonized” LDS works. And I wonder how many others will get it? Or are looking for it? Are you?
John Adams wrote,
I still don't completely understand Darren's posts about the Internet/Genealogy either, but let's say that the LDS people are somewhat responsible for the Internet; then I would say there is a loose connection to us saving the Constitution.
I see this rally behind Ron Paul as one of the greatest efforts to save the Constitution in my lifetime and it definitely wouldn't be getting the momentum it is getting without the Internet.
The Internet is the wild card that the PTB can't control.
It is an exciting time to live and who knows what will come next.
John Adams,
The Internet is the work of scientists and the faith of Prophets. I have been working on my book about the untold history of the work between BYU, Eyring Research Institute, Weidner Communications, WordPerfect, Novel and The Missile Directorate at Hill Field (starting with prophecy by Hugh B. Brown on September 11, 1961). This book of mine shows how the faith of our Prophets produced the Internet, by developing the core communications technology of the Internet at Eyring Research Institute, and what purpose the Internet was to serve for God’s purpose in these last days. But be it enough to say the Internet was a gift from God.
Also the Internet (the science behind it’s operation) destroys the whole premise of the Great and Abominable Church. That we are not just animals following the best speakers (Plato, the Republic). Just like Galileo proved the falsehoods of the Universe that the Greeks were teaching and the Catholic Church perpetuated. The Internet shows how to live Inductively rather than Deductively as the Greeks taught. We can follow our heart, the spirit of God, be godly and teach each other virtue, unlike the premise of “The Meno” by Socrates. To understand this is to throw the Great and Abominable Church in the garbage can. Sorry this is such a stretch to understand but you will start to get it as you are deprogrammed from your Greek based “deductive” education.
I’m already heading to Zion. And I am inviting you all to come along.
Work Together By The Law,
God Bless,
Darren
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ERI did do some work on novell and arpanet protocols that no doubt helped advance networking technology, but they are both dead and arpa at least, clearly was not originated by ERI. ERI did not create the internet anymore than Al Gore did.
