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I started out as a truther skeptic. In fact I started doing my research with the intention of showing a truther how silly he was being...

And there is some bad information put out by some truthers that does make the truther movement look bad...

And I am not a hardcore 9/11 was an inside job truther. But...

I do think there is a lot that the government is hiding and/or lying about.
There is a lot to indicate that at least some people within our government AT THE VERY LEAST had foreknowledge if nto active involvement.
There is a strong amount of evidence that high ups in either our government or Israel's government or both had at minimum some involvement, and at worst planned and carried it out.

Where I am a truther is that I want the truth to come out. None of this "National Security b.s. We havea rgiht to know everything knowable regarding these attacks.

I want to know why the vast majority of the supposed hijackers were Saudi Arabian, but we stayed buddies with S.A. and were led to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Original_Intent wrote:I started out as a truther skeptic. In fact I started doing my research with the intention of showing a truther how silly he was being...

And there is some bad information put out by some truthers that does make the truther movement look bad...

And I am not a hardcore 9/11 was an inside job truther. But...

I do think there is a lot that the government is hiding and/or lying about.
There is a lot to indicate that at least some people within our government AT THE VERY LEAST had foreknowledge if nto active involvement.
There is a strong amount of evidence that high ups in either our government or Israel's government or both had at minimum some involvement, and at worst planned and carried it out.

Where I am a truther is that I want the truth to come out. None of this "National Security b.s. We havea rgiht to know everything knowable regarding these attacks.

I want to know why the vast majority of the supposed hijackers were Saudi Arabian, but we stayed buddies with S.A. and were led to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

...more than just buddies - business partners!

The Safari Club, BCCI, Carlyle Group.....

I would love for someone to show me a photo of a gravity-driven, naturally-induced building collapse that looks like this:


And then some photos of under the rubble weeks after the collapse that look like this molten slag with the pile still smoldering even after being doused with water around the clock for weeks:

John Locke would LOVE if Col Flagg would instead of trying to be condescending actually explain his position.

[drops head in hands and slowly walks away]

Here we go again...

John Locke wrote:John Locke would LOVE if Col Flagg would instead of trying to be condescending actually explain his position.

Col. Flagg was not being condescending to anyone and Col. Flagg would like it if John Locke would stop speaking in 3rd person. There are plenty of 9/11 comments from me here in the forum if John Locke would just search them out - you should easily be able to determine my position.

Wow heated up quick in here. I like looking at my intro post and seeing so many so many replies but........ *face palm....sighs*

Why argue with people who you know are not going to change their opinion. -not directed at anyone person - but every one in general.

Why argue with people who you know are not going to change their opinion. -not directed at anyone person - but every one in general.

Col. Flagg wrote:

John Locke wrote:John Locke would LOVE if Col Flagg would instead of trying to be condescending actually explain his position.

Col. Flagg was not being condescending to anyone and Col. Flagg would like it if John Locke would stop speaking in 3rd person. There are plenty of 9/11 comments from me here in the forum if John Locke would just search them out - you should easily be able to determine my position.

John Locke felt as though you were saying "anyone who actually believes this was from airplanes being crashed into it is stupid" John Locke did not feel as though you were making an honest attempt to guide others who may or may not have less understanding of things of that nature to further light, but rather you were trying to belittle those who believed differently than you. John Locke appoligizes if that was not the case, John Locke perhaps took it that way due to your avatar, previous statments regarding non-truthers, and the wording in your post. John Locke is not looking to start a fight, and had previously requested further information into the matter.

John Locke wrote:

Col. Flagg wrote:

John Locke wrote:John Locke would LOVE if Col Flagg would instead of trying to be condescending actually explain his position.

Col. Flagg was not being condescending to anyone and Col. Flagg would like it if John Locke would stop speaking in 3rd person. There are plenty of 9/11 comments from me here in the forum if John Locke would just search them out - you should easily be able to determine my position.

John Locke felt as though you were saying "anyone who actually believes this was from airplanes being crashed into it is stupid" John Locke did not feel as though you were making an honest attempt to guide others who may or may not have less understanding of things of that nature to further light, but rather you were trying to belittle those who believed differently than you. John Locke appoligizes if that was not the case, John Locke perhaps took it that way due to your avatar, previous statments regarding non-truthers, and the wording in your post. John Locke is not looking to start a fight, and had previously requested further information into the matter.

John, no apology necessary - just search this site (located at the top right) for '9/11 Col. Flagg' - trust me, you'll get a mountain of data. But if you want a nice start that isn't from me, here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_fo ... _Harbor.22

www.ae911truth.org

www.911truth.org

www.911research.wtc7.net

As John Locke learns better away from a computer (too many darn distractions...instant messages etc etc...) John Locke has attempted to take Dr Jones up on his offer of a DVD of his research. Is there perhaps a book that compiles this information in an accessible manner? Accessible meaning not necessary to have a PHD in physics or Chemistry to understand?

John Locke wrote:As John Locke learns better away from a computer (too many darn distractions...instant messages etc etc...) John Locke has attempted to take Dr Jones up on his offer of a DVD of his research. Is there perhaps a book that compiles this information in an accessible manner? Accessible meaning not necessary to have a PHD in physics or Chemistry to understand?

Physics 101....gravity, F=MA, etc...

9/11 is so supremely simple....some good videos have been referenced on here - one not to long ago with showcase of experiments conducted.

Go to Home Depot and buy a couple cinderblocks. Leave one on the ground then climb on your roof and drop another one on top of it....see if the bottom one goes up in a cloud of smoke and dust. That one is probably 10X greater than what happened. Stack 3 cinderblocks on top of each other....smash the middle one with sledge hammer and see if the bottom one goes up in a cloud of smoke and dust due to the top one falling on top of it.